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Twitter ~ Verified Accounts / Re: Paris Jackson Twitter @ParisJackson
« on: August 07, 2011, 02:21:34 PM »
Here we go again. 

Oh so - some believe Karen Faye but not MJ, his father, his son, his sister, his daughter and Elizabeth Taylor as it pertains to Omer being MJ's bio son.  Tsk-tsk!  This would mean that you believe everything Ms. Faye says.  MJ is dead.  She dressed and made him up.  Please!   

To believe this woman and other naysayers is to believe that MJ picked up Omer at 12 years old to do what?  Explain yourself.  Why did he do it?  I think it is utmost disrespectful to think that MJ picked up a boy toy when he was 12.  Again, you're no better than the hated tabloids. 

Some of you are so arrogant at being such haters of Omer, until you still feel the need to disrespect the fact that MJ raised him.  Let's just say he isn't his bio son, but MJ raised him.  Why do you still feel the need to try to come between the love those two share?  MJ is alive.  All the way live.  Omer is his bio son.  PERIOD!  Nothing you can say or do will change that fact.

MJ and Omer were together getting off of a plane when the boy was eight.  So much for that fake story that the lying tabloids told about him meeting the child in 1996.  It's stupid really by this point.  Austin met Omer when he was eight years old at 1992 at Neverland, and told his mother about what Omer told him about MJ being his dad.

Paris knows her own brother.  She is claiming him, as she is proud of him.  Prince claimed him too as being his best friend.  I hear him and MJ on the song - A Toast.  I think they are best friends.  And Blanket is crazy about his big bro by going by the pics of them when they showed them going to karate practice last year.

MJ lost the love of his life when he got Omer's mother pregnant.  He told Ebony magazine that he wanted to Marry Diana Ross in 1982.  He said then they would move to SWITZERLAND.  MJ has a home there.  When she found out, she was hurt; hence her going on her merry way and meeting her next husband.  MJ bemoans that fact in his book Moonwalker.  He was jealous and hurt.  She was upset, because he'd been telling her for years that she was the one, then he turns around and pulls Muscles out and BAM - he's caught.  Check out that song and video - 'Muscles' - and 'Eaten Alive' w/Barry Gibb.  In 'Butterflies' he sings - "I caress you.  Let you - taste us.  Just so blissful.  I would do anything baby.  Just make my dreams come true."  Ohh-la-la!

Sorry, but no cigar.  Omer - Michael Joseph Jackson Junior - is MJ's all day long.  Hundreds of comparison videos to look at, but of course, some want to keep up with the illusion that MJ didn't like women or sex.  Please.  That boy has always waited on Diana, but those days are over, as they are together as we speak.  He deserves some happiness by this point - for real.

Hee-hee-hee!  We'll see won't we.  The truth has already prevailed - but in due time, it will prevail for all of the losers that call MJ a LIAR soon enough.

Paris is partly playing her part.  "I know that he is not one."

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Michael's Reasons to hoax his death / Re: Only MJ Can Flip the Script
« on: August 04, 2011, 12:34:24 PM »
I think the info on below link is what MJ is doing.  He is directing his own Reality movie.  It has never been done before.  I think it started with his being onstage as Thome-Thome (TT).  I know that was MJ.  In retrospect, after watching MJ in some younger days, I saw one pic where he held his mouth in the same way that TT held his mouth at one point on one shot.  MJ is one of the main characters of his film/movie/ARG; along with Doctor Conrad Murray.  He was TT, and he was Hat Man.  My goodness!  How brilliant is that man?  All day long.

Omer is in LA now still.  He is probably seeing and working with Michael on the new song and video - "Life Is A Movie."  I'd read where he first had - "My Life Is A Movie", but I see he's dropped the My.  We'll see. 

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I read recently that some of the stories on You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login are fake.  I read that the Casey Anthony trial had paid actors and was green screened.  One poster mentioned it in the context that MJ's funeral was also.  Was MJ throwing out a hint? 

I personally feel that Conrad Murray represents MJ in "The Court of Last Resort."  His trial will be on trutv if there is one.  Anyone been able to figure out why MJ called out Conrad Murray's name in the Moonwalker - Smooth Criminal version?  And why were deceased and fake patients listed on his attorney's website there for a while? 

It's all about the script to me.  Many have signed either a confidentiality or non-disclosure agreement with MJ, I'm sure.  He is mainly mocking the media.  He is using TMZ and others to plant fake stories all over the place.  He is not doing it just for hoax believers either.  He is doing it to mess with and punk folks - and to be the PUPPETMASTER.  I have always felt this a way.

His name Michael Joe Jackson was practically ruined by lies and made up fake stories from some in the tabloids and in the main lame stream media.  He was hurt that many people all over the world believed some of the stories, no matter how outrageous some were.

That's why I think he added that bit about showing the tabloid stories headlines to his Memorial montage.  Who else added them?  I knew then that that Memorial montage was Bad - and that MJ would have been proud of it if he could see it.  LOL!  This is what I was thinking as I was watching it.  Later, when realizing that he was teaching Omer to dance, I was like - "MJ put together that montage.'  His family might not have added that part about the tabloid nonsense articles or Omer.  Neither would AEG have.  That was all MJ.  Again, he is mocking many media people, pundits (talking empty heads) and haters.

He was sad that some believed it, but he didn't blame the ones that did.  In the Geraldo interview, he stated how he just didn't want people to read such things and believe them.

People just need to use critical thinking and understand how many movies have been made in this country.  There are several genres.  And many directors and producers use extras and of course, pay people to act their roles.  They borrow or pay to use public buildings, et al.  Think of all of the extensive movies that have been made.

This one just so happens to be about an aging Superstar Entertainer that was falsely accused twice, tried once for a crime he didn't commit, acquitted and hell bent on a REVENGE in the entertainment industry.  That is part the "background."  Then you have the beginning, the middle and the ending.

P.S. - The Butterfly = Galactic.  The Third Eye = Pineal Gland.  Paris mentionning 11:11 = 11-11-11.  A new Portal will be opening up.  It is all about Awakening and Ascension.  Paris and them are hipped to this.  They have been taught about this.  MJ is Awakened.  He has taught many of his family members.  The four years to get it right is about this phenom - and not no NWO.  MJ never gave a speech about the NWO/Illuminati/TPTB/Elites/Profiteers - et al.  He sang a song about TDRCAU.  He spoke on video about Sony/Motolla.  This Is It - is mainly about the Entertainment factor.  TII is mainly about MJ showing off his entertainment skills.  This is his Legacy.  The fact that he loves to entertain.  The fact that he loves to Create.  He is obsessed with it.  No one can change that. 

Some think in Black and White - he showed that he was letting go of all of the TRAPPINGS.  He's knows that it has never been about the materialistic.  It and money doesn't buy happiness.  The dollar bills is fake monopoly money - and that is how the government and business is really structured.  The pro athletes are a part of the master monopoly game.  These pro sports are also set up for betting.  It is big business.  Some players are made to throw a play or a game. 

It all ties in to the Yellow Brick Road that's filled with illusions of fame and fortune, and the life of living in duality.  Sadly, many young ones move to hollyweird chasing that fake dream built on a House of Cards.  Eventually, they all have to come back down to earth.  MJ learned the ins and outs early in his career - but not early enough to avoid all pitfalls.  Yet, he overcame it all to me.  There is no way, he was using drugs to fall asleep.  Please.  All he needed was the right loving, and that'll put a good man to sleep in a minute.  LOL!

No one can show any evidence that MJ hoaxed his death to warn the world about the NWO.  But many of us can show evidence where MJ partly hoaxed his death for the entertainment factor.  GAME OVER!  He has said so himself.  "The best is yet to come."  To me, he bammed when he said that he would "button his shirt, snap his fingers, play with them a little bit - and then" BAM.  Isn't that what he's doing now?  He has helped family members and B. Howard, Evan Ross - et al - thru his creative juices.  He has appeared all over the place.  That is bamming folks.  That is creating folks.  Matter = RAW POTENTIAL and Energy Slowed Down.  That's MJ  for you - and he's still getting it done. 

Great blog below.  That's what it's all about.

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Michael's Reasons to hoax his death / Re: Only MJ Can Flip the Script
« on: July 20, 2011, 08:22:32 AM »
I enjoyed reading up on Seeing Clues blog again.  I'd forgotten how great it is - and how good of an investigator he is.

Check out the first video on this page.  He's got it going on.

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Michael's Reasons to hoax his death / Only MJ Can Flip the Script
« on: July 19, 2011, 03:08:09 PM »
I love - love - love the below piece.  I think Michael wrote it.  I wonder if he has anything to do with the trutv.com site.

Notice that Jermaine is quoted saying that the others that helped or were behind Murray were "people in the industry."  LMAO!  WHY HAVEN'T THE JACKSONS AND LATOYA HOLLERED ILLUMINATI - I wonder?  Are they being threatened? Or is it because - THIS IS IT AND THIS IS THRILLER?  Diana's last official tour was titled This Is It.  MJ was always following her around.  Hee!

The below is almost as good as how Souza writes.  LOL!  I can honestly see MJ writing it - for this is mainly a movie - "The Court of Last Resort."  

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People have the right to see it as something more sinister if that's how they feel.  Carry on - but that's where I get off, as it's not the way I see it and never have seen it.  I've always seen it as a MOVIE since the old board.  Wow - I just thought of that deeply.  I've never looked at it more sinister or as if they got Michael Jackson finally.  Please, they could have gotten MJ in more ways than one.  They could have blown up Neverland to the fact that they could have shot him with a high powered rifle - et al.

The thing is, MJ has known about these people (powers that be - elites) since he was a young man.  He had to eventually learn how to deal with them, live amongst them, get along with them and on and on.  Some people to this day think that he is one of them.  Some think Diana was mind controlled at one time - and probably by that Gene Simmons.  Perhaps that is why Michael and Diana have such a close bond.  They could talk about this kind of stuff.  They were involved in it by default - because the entire industry is controlled by them - and always have been since the Bob Hope and Marilyn Monroe days - et al.  The mob also has always been around.  There are some good souls in the mob.  Some in the mob back in the day thought they were like Robin Hood - and therefore would steal from the powers that be (politicians) in order to give to and keep their families taken care of.

In a way, I think this is what MJ is doing now as it pertains to his family.  Again, his father learned of such practices many eons ago.  He is a black mason - and so on.  They have always been on the fringe or edge - just like many in the industry have been.  It's been reported that the Jews control the blacks in the industry today.  Will Smith and Martin, Tyler Perry and some others supposedly bent over in order to get a head.  I mean many people know what's up.  These days though - it's getting more exposed.

MJ had to learn how to work within that system.  I think he did very well - but the price he had to pay was the two allegations - and the last subsequent charge.  May haps, the powers penalized Diana and Janet by shunning them at one point in the music industry (hence - GAME OVER) to get at him, but he survived.  If they wanted Michael dead, he would have been dead long before 6-25-09.  God protected him, and hopefully the ones that would have meant him harm, have backed off - as it seems to me.

This entire hoax is part of a MOVIE/SCRIPT.  I can’t wait until MJ's new song and video comes out - 'My Life is A Movie.'  Hee-hee-hee!

There is no way his mother would leave her child to lie dead and fleshless for almost three months.  God would not approve of such practices - and I'm sure she's aware of this.

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I think MJ was HAT MAN TAN.  I saw a spot on the back of HAT's hand that nailed the coffin shut for me.  No pun intended or was it?  LOL!  If the Jacksons have never taken this seriously since day one, why should I?  LOL!  Randy and Marlon were hee-eeing in a car with tinted windows two days later.  Michael Jackson the man of many disguises.  HAT was the only person that stood up when the casket was carried out.  I wonder if Elvis showed up at his own Memorial/Funeral.  

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P.S.  - someone asked if O-bee was part of the Illuminati because on the back of his jacket was an eye (Pineal Gland) (all seeing eye?).  MJ has shown the right eye by itself and the left eye as part of HIStory.  In Omer's case, (he knows about why MJ did what he did I'm sure), I think he also knows about the below.  I read that our little moon boi was busted one time when he was about 16 or 17 - and Uncle Randy helped to get him off.  LMBO!  

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI July 7
« on: July 18, 2011, 02:49:13 PM »
Oh no you don't, Souza.  You can't stop posting.  I do understand what you mean though.  I think for the most part, I'm going to stop posting and reading.  I'll check TMZ and Breaking News like always, but to flint around the board looking for clues is a waste by this point.  There really hasn't been any interesting clues in eons.  Even if you and I don't see eye to eye on everything, I do respect and appreciate your posts.  I love reading them.  When I want to chuckle, I sometimes read your blog, the umpteen clues/weird list - and watch videos of DOC Murray and Dave-Dave on Larry King.  Believe me, your blog and the homepage on this website are classics.  I admit that I wasn't as sure about the original hoax site as it related to all things in the beginning, but reading up on it helped me to discover all of the inconsistencies and discrepancies that I already was wondering about - starting with that nurse, et al.

What I like to use are markers/bullets and dots that connect.  For instance for me, I have connected dots as it pertains to pictures I've seen of MJ or videos up until now.  Likewise, I like to connect the dots as it pertains to MJ and his involvement with family members.  Before I forget, I love the interview Jermaine gave to CBS in 2004.  In it, Genevieve mentioned that she and the family, to include Mike had gone to Florida the year before (2003).  This proves that MJ spent time with his family, as she mentioned the fireworks display that still resonated with her.  I also think in 2003 is when the Jackson Family Photo was taken at Neverland.  You have the pic/shot under "Other Jackson Family Members."

MJ also dedicated either his Number Ones to Diana in 2004 (sorry, I think I had them mixed the other day, as I said in 2004 - he reissued Remember the Time - the point was made though).  My bad.  The thing is - "work ain't hard."  Again, connecting these DOTS are HALF of MJ's story. Period!  Geraldo interview - another marker or dot.

So again, I can connect dots (dots = his children family and Diana).  One big dot is that Omer is his bio son.  I don't care what Hamila says.  Some would rather believe her than Michael, Mr. Jackson, Rebbie, Omer and Paris, as she called him her big bro.  Someone asked Tito about it a few weeks after the Memorial about Omer - and he referred that person to his father.  He said his father had spoken and that he was the one to answer all questions on the subject.  Omer mentioned it thru You Tube.  If we're here still at the end of next year, beginning of 2003, then I think MJ will do a Bio movie - and Omer will play the younger him.  That came out in August 2009.  I know MJ posted up that story - as exposing his firstborn has always been a part of his plan.  He tried to do it in 2004 - as he wanted to make sure his son knew that he wasn't ashamed of him - and the time was right in more ways in one to do so.  FOX News slammed it and inferred that MJ was just saying that to help his case.  ROLLS EYES.  We'll see who's right about this DOT in the end - indeed.  To this day, MJ doesn't want the paparazzi after his son - and he doesn't want the focus of the hoax to be on Omer.

I keep bringing this up because it is a big clue to me.  I feel MJ was on "Wanna to Be Starting Something", "A Toast", "Under Pressure" - and JUST SANG his parts live for the new video with O-bee, "The Drill."  Common sense and critical thinking dictates that Omer wouldn't be able to use such MJ related songs in You Tubes unless MJ granted his permission (who else did).  Just think folks, MJ is proud of his son.  He is using him to get his message out.  I believe MJ put together the re-mix for The Drill - and the group and Omer came up with the choreography.  I honestly believe this.  This is how MJ operates.  The fact that he had a son out of wedlock, saw him off and on for 8 years - and then brings him to the US to raise is like a Movie.   The name of Omer's next video is called - "My Life is A Movie."  Duh!  MJ written all over it.  

It's like MJ lived in a castle - and all kinds of mysterious things happened to him, but not really.  I think it really is quite simple.  I think it is an ARG going on right now as we speak, and perhaps TS's job is to infuse some mystery in it as it pertains to if MJ escaped by the skin of his chinny-chin-chin just in the nick of time.  I don't think he is Marlon any longer.  He may be MJ, but if he is, it is kind of contradictory either way - to over a year ago take the time to actively dispel the murder theory, but because Latoya brought it up in her book, to ask us to entertain it again - UNLESS.

Unless, it is a part of the ARG.  Lest we forget, Latoya didn't write the book for the hoax people only.  She wrote it for the broader audience - just like the TMZ related MJ news is targeted for a much larger audience - IMO.  I think MJ wrote parts that had to do with him to some extent for hoax purposes.  I think he'll also be involved with Jermaine's book just like he was with his mother's coffee book and etc.

To me, MJ is proving how talented, skilled and gifted he is.  He is a little conceited in this way - only because he is seeking Revenge.  I think his philosophy is that if the evil doers had left him alone and played fairly, then of course, he wouldn't feel the need to exact revenge.

So in again, I'm convinced he's alive - and it's mainly because of the dots I've connected.  The dots with his children, family and Diana - and by this point, Evan Ross & B. Howard.  These are huge clues to me.  I thank God I have them.

I'm sure that MJ has had plenty of sex.  He is all male - and I think he and Diana are together finally.  One can watch the 1996 World Music awards, where she sits on his lap.  In 1997, she gave the Jackson 5 their award, and she and Michael are flirting like mad, hold hands eventually - and the pic from backstage, my goodness.  

In 1999, Diana is quoted saying that Michael called her to talk about his next album, "Invincible."  I think he dedicated it to her in 2001.  He has Oxford speech in 2001.  He has Sony speech in 2002.  I think he did two videos.  He's charged in November 2003.  He hosts his family and they take pic that same year.   He and family go to Florida.  He dedicates his "Number Ones" to Diana.  He's acquitted in summer 2005.  He moves to Ireland.  He hooks Diana up with group Westlife in late 2005.  Diana does I Love You CD in 2006 (released in the States in 2007) and dedicates it to MJ.  I think they commit in 2007 or 2008.  He seeks out Lionel Richie in 2007 (probably told him about the hoax).  He gives 50th birthday interview in 2008 - and goes to Christian A's party in Las Vegas.  Diana is also invited.

He is seen out and about during the spring of 2009 - and he hoaxes his "death", in June 2009.  Oh and he added himself teaching Omer to dance for Memorial montage.  He's Hat Man at own Memorial.  He has on Saw Mask Halloween 2009, and on and on.

Of course, these are my dots, and I can't expect everyone to use these things as markers for themselves if they don't feel it fits for them, but again I'm glad I got them and they are not all.  

Souza, may haps you could start a thread showing the real MJ up until May 2009 when we saw him officially - and after then when we think we saw him after 6-25-09.  I think it is sad and quite the shame that the CLUES/WIERD lists and such don't get top billing around here.  Many folks are spinning their wheels.  One day he's alive and the next.......................  Or may haps we could have two huge threads.  One for the believers and one for the non-believers - and NEVER their paths shall cross.  LOL!

P.S.  This video is for you Souza.  I thank you for all you do.

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Everyone.  I meant to post this months ago, and I'm glad I remembered this article.  Article with Prince's pic at bottom.

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I mean no harm, but didn't MJ seem to have the patience of Job?  I wonder why it is that some of us, and especially old-timers like me feel the need to take up for him.  Not defend him, because he doesn't need it.  The astute amongst us know that he is not perfect and has sinned.  

It's just that I've always felt his brilliance and his giving heart.  I've always loved his laugh and felt that he was witty.  In that skit he does with Diana, she asks him as he is breaking up with her - "Yes, but where will I find someone with your CHARM, your WIT, your LIPS?"  He answers, "You won't, but hang on in there."  LOL - because it is so true.  It matters not if folks don't believe that MJ and Diana have always loved each other.  It's not going to take away from that fact.  It is plain as day if one were to watch hundreds of videos & pictures of them together by this point.  It really is your loss - because you really aren't a REAL human being, because you don't want to "Discover the man you never knew", if it doesn't fit your purpose.  

Diana said in 1981 to Ebony magazine in an article that she LOVED being around MJ because he gave off LOVE (and some more stuff of course).  Many of us agree, I'm sure.  In 1991, she tells Larry King Live - "You see, Michael and I actually really love each other."  In 2004, he dedicated the Re-issued 'Remember the Time' to Diana - and if you read, you'll learn that he also dedicated his NUMBER ONES to her.  'Leave Me Alone', he sung to her and on and on.

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Some of you are living in some kind of fog as it pertains to Michael.  Some kind of fanciful fantasy.  You forget though, that many of us have known of and loved Lil Michael since he was 9 years old - and have followed him since.  Some of you are the ones that are late to him.

For some sad reason, some of you don't want to think that MJ could love a woman (or that he is a real man and human being with blood running thru his vieins), a black woman at that, and be NORMAL.  Pitiful.  You need to look in the mirror and ask yourself why?  Why!?  It makes no sense.  You need to ask yourself, where you picked up such preconceived notions.

Read and weep or read and discover!  Nuff said!

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And for the ones that don't think MJ's four children are his - there again, poor y'all. Admit it!  You were tabloid junkies all your life - and you have always believed the many LIES AND UNTRUTHS about MJ.

Prince has white spots alll over his neck.  I've seen it on Omer's fingers and Blanket's fingers.  I've seen it on Tito's fingers and Jermaine's neck on JFD.

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Other Odd Things / Re: So this is what he would have looked like!
« on: July 14, 2011, 03:32:07 PM »
Hello everyone.

How easy some forget so quickly.  What happened to the pictures of MJ - his children and his parents from May 2009?  I don't think he looks anything like the pic posted here.  Not even the same shade.  That thread I started is under Michael's Pictures.  

Also, on Bonnie's blog, some of the posters feel like I always have.  This point is similar to questioning the Bible.  Did Satan write it?  Why do some people pick and choose what they believe in it?  Should one believe all that's written there?  The point is, and I've asked it before.  Was MJ mind controlled?  If so, when was it?  Bonnie and them seem to think 'mos 'def between his speech at Oxford and till sometime in late 2002 or early 2003.  They show how mind controlled he looked also with the filthy leeches that appeared in the pictures.  If he was mind controlled ever, they would program him to bash his father and family - and keep him away from them.

In other words, folks need to keep an open mind, as to when this could have happened to him.  I believe it did.  Some believe that Boteach hypnotized MJ more than once, and/or it was a clone that he claimed was MJ on tapes.  Critical thinking is needed here.  

Anyone that outright believes that that was MJ on the tapes that this freak released and those from this person Glenda are not using critical thinking.  Just because they say it is MJ, doesn't mean it is.  Google CLONING.  I think there were two or three of them used as MJ over the years.  There are authors out there that have written that many CEOs of major corporations are clones, and that there are millions of them around.  We may live next door to one.  Credo Mutwa gave examples of what he thought he saw when he was abducted.  They took some of his sperm and DNA.  He saw these little creatures in a floor to ceiling cylinder.  They were genetically created (from DNA).  It has happened for thousands of years.  The Royals have used certain sperm and test tubes to create the type of child to be born, etc.  

Again, many of these people are leeches and bloodsucking evil Satan worshippers.  I believe nothing they say out of their mouths, therefore, I don't believe it was MJ on tapes.

I feel the same about the Glenda tapes.  I'll try to find the thread on one of those MJ/DR sites about it.  Please!  And these people don't believe in the hoax - and they also for sure don't believe this Glenda.  It's almost like how could anyone?  Haven't you learned anything from MJ about such things?  Just because it sounds like him, big whoop.  Some say that B. Howard sounds like MJ.  Surely some can try to sound like him - and even on her tapes, but I'd bet my house it's not him.  

I'd like for MJ to say out of his mouth that indeed it was him on both of those peoples' tapes.  It doesn't add up, and for this person to say - A Time to Remember, instead of Remember the Time for MJ's smash video and song.  The one he dedicated to Diana.  Do some really think MJ is that stupid or slow until he wouldn't remember the name of his own song?  I don't think so.

Again, this is just my opinion, but I believe;

1.  Either it was someone - double that sounds like MJ on both people’s tapes.
2.  It was a clone on Boteach's, and no telling on Glenda's.  Again, an imitator - PERIOD!

Some would say - "oh but MJ didn't know he was being taped with Glenda."  I say, the real Michael Jackson was not on those tapes.  I don't care what that person says.  The truth will prevail indeed.

That's why shortly after MJ was supposedly "died" - a couple of articles came out about his sperm and DNA.  He was claiming it and trying to protect it.  He wanted the world to know who his REAL Children were.  (and how alout that like I posted about Angelina dn brad Pitt being siblings?.  Plus, Papa Joe Mentioned doubles ( which may indicate he means - clones).  

You'd better recognize and wake up to the fact that - "truth is stranger than fiction."  I thank God every day that I happened upon Credo Mutwa's interview from 1999.  I'm not trying to get people to believe him like I do.  It's like a new testament to me though.  I thank the man that interviewed him from Spectrum, and I thank Mr. Mutwa (African Shaman).

Don't get me wrong.  I'm not saying I believe everything I read either.  But as it pertains to off-worldly types, ETs/Angels, Disclosure, Ascension, YES - YES - YES.  I believe it.  The 5th Dimension is where I want to end up, for real.  I'm not going to miss that ship if God be with me.

Below is what Donte, O-Bee, Paris, et al members of the Jacksons are looking forward to - the 5th Dimension.  They know what's up.

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July 10, 2011
Scientist: Universal law supports collapse of economy in 2011, ascension in 2012
by Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd

Dr. Georgi Stankov, a Bulgarian scientist living in Germany, has released a 182-page book “The Cosmic Laws of Creation and Destruction: Why and How the World Economic Order will collapse in 2011!" demonstrating that universal law supports the collapse of the world economy starting in 2011, coupled with the start of mass ascension of awakened humans in 2012, with the trigger date being December 21, 2012.

In his book Dr. Stankov writes, “All evolved souls will ascend. This will include all star seeds (light workers), indigo, crystalline, and rainbow children (old souls), and most adult souls. According to the working model of soul age, as developed by the author, all adult and old souls will ascend. His estimations are that there are currently about 4-8% old souls and about 25-30% adult souls on earth.”  

Open extraterrestrial "disclosure" will occur, according to Dr. Stankov, in the 5th dimension between advanced interdimensional intelligent civilizations and the ascended "5th dimensional" human race.

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Dr. Georgi Stankov’s book (Parts I & II) “The Cosmic Laws of Creation and Destruction: Why and How the World Economic Order will collapse in 2011!" has been made available to Alfred Lambremont Webre at Exopolitics.com and can be downloaded as a free resource on the Internet at the following URL:

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Dr. Stankov’s discovery of universal law

In 1993, Dr. Stankov, whose bio can be seen here,  “discovered at his institute that the group of polyenes (macrolides) has remarkable therapeutic effects in a number of chronic diseases, for which there is no treatment at present, and was granted a U.S. patent. The theoretical explanation of this novel mode of action led to the discovery of the Universal Law in bio-science and medicine and to the development of the General Theory of Biological Regulation.“

Dr. Stankov wrote two books on his discovery of universal law and a general theory of bioregulation that can also be downloaded free at Exopolitics.com

The Universal Law. The General Theory of Physics and Cosmology. Volume II (concise version), English, 290 pages, first published in 2000.

The General Theory of Biological Regulation. The Universal Law in Bioscience and Medicine. Volume III, English, 377 pages, first published in 2000.

A summary of universal law

According to Dr. Stankov, “In 1995, I discovered the Universal Law of nature (the Law); I showed that all physical laws and their applications can be derived from this one law within mathematical formalism, and explained it epistemologically. This has led to the development of a unified theory of physics and cosmology, which is an axiomatization (axiomatics) of physics and mathematics. Thus physics is applied mathematics. The major results of this theory are: all terms in physics can be axiomatically derived from the primary term - energy = space-time (primary axiom). Energy (space-time) is closed, infinite, continuous, inhomogeneous (discrete), and constant; it is in a state of permanent energy exchange. The continuum (the set of all numbers) is equivalent to the primary term. The new axiomatics can be empirically verified. Thus the validity of mathematics as challenged by Gödel’s theorem can be proven in the real word (proof of existence). This eliminates the continuum hypothesis and the foundation crisis of mathematics.

“The Universal Law describes space-time in terms of mathematics. The universal equation is E = EAf, where E is energy exchange, EA is a specific constant amount (quantum) of exchanged energy, called "action potential", and f = E/EA is called "absolute time". It is a dimensionless quotient.

“The Universal Law is a "law of energy". Energy (space-time) is the only real thing. All physical quantities such as mass, charge, force, and momentum are abstract subsets of space-time that are defined within mathematics (objects of thought). They are dimensionless numbers that belong to the continuum. Since they contain space-time as an element (U-subsets), they can be derived in an axiomatic manner from the primary term.

“For instance, mass is a synonym for an energy (space-time) relationship and charge is a synonym for area, that is, the SI unit 1 coulomb is equivalent to 1 m2. This leads to the unification of physics and cosmology on the basis of mathematical formalism. This new physical and mathematical axiomatics also integrates gravitation with the other forces.”

Negative ET occupation of Earth and the 2012 Ascension process

The following is an excerpt (Chapter 15) from Dr. Georgi Stankov’s book, “The Cosmic Laws of Creation and Destruction: Why and How the World Economic Order will collapse in 2011!" .

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CHAPTER 15. Ascension is the Separation of the Wheat from the Chaff

Copyright 2011 All rights reserved Dr. Georgi Stankov

“The last several decades in the history of mankind are marked by a severe battle in the 4th, 5th and higher dimensions between the dark forces, The Powers That be, the so called “Unholy six” (Greys, Reptilians, zeta Reticuli, etc.), the actual controllers of earth, on the one hand, and the Forces of Light (Galactic Federation, White Brotherhood, etc.) on the other.

“While this battle has huge repercussions in the third dimension on earth, the vast majority of human entities are not even aware of it. The sleeping majority of human beings are involuntary slaves of the Powers That Be, who execute this perennial enslavement through their proxies. The latter have the hidden agenda to create the New World Order, as one of their main speakers, [Dr. Henry A.] Kissinger, recently loudly proclaimed on television.

“To this end they have corrupted in the last several decades the financial system worldwide by transforming it into a huge Ponzi scheme that is exclusively based on creating new debt and money out of thin air. The chief culprits are the FED and the private American and Anglo-Saxon banks that own this central bank, followed by ECB and other central banks. Many of the CEOs of these financial corporations are human clones that are created by genetic engineering by the Unholy Six, in the first place, by the Greys. This knowledge will become a central piece of information in the revelations and tribulations that will take place in the course of this year [2011].

“Therefore, the only people that know exactly what will occur in the End Times are the proxies of the Dark forces, also known as Illuminati, the hidden Government, the Powers of the New World Order, the 13 families, etc., and the super-secret services that have been engaged in clandestine joint ventures, mainly underground, with the Unholy six. They have created many new technologies, including UFOs and other vehicles, while at the same time they have systematically suppressed the implementation of numerous patents and new technologies for the sake of the broad population.

For instance, the clean technology to produce hydrogen and oxygen from water as a fuel for all kinds of motors of combustion is available for several decades, but it has been deliberately suppressed by the oil corporations that are in the hands of the dark forces.  

“The ultimate goal of such nefarious practices is the enslavement of mankind. However, this is not the plan for humanity at this time, as the Forces of Light will also have a say on this issue.

“There are some light workers that are also informed about what is happening behind the scene. However, the vast majority of star seeds are either completely ignorant on the role of the dark forces in the shaping of humanity or prefer to close their eyes, as these facts can be indeed very scary, and fears do not help the light body process and Ascension. Nevertheless, some of these facts must be made public very soon. Information is Light, and where Light is, there is no Evil. The activities of the dark forces must be completely blocked this year [2011], so that they can no longer exert their deplorable influence on mankind prior to Ascension.

“While the dark forces want to preserve the status quo, the Forces of Light are preparing our planet and the vast majority of mankind for Ascension in the 5th dimension. The final shift of earth – in the Bible this event is also known as Rapture –will be accomplished on 21 December 2012. Our planet will then split into two planets as already discussed: 1) Planet A will ascend in the 5th dimension and 2) Planet B will stay in the present 3d-density, will experience huge material and natural disasters during and after the shift, and will slowly degrade to an even greater density and separation from the Whole.

“As already said, planet B will be a living hell. The portion of incarnated entities that will decide to live in further separation will continue to live on planet B or will leave earth prior to Ascension. The Powers That Be will have full control on this planet. They are preparing themselves for this event for a long time. They are fully aware of the fact that in the last two years of Revelations and Tribulations they will lose their grip on mankind and earth. All they want to achieve currently is somehow to survive the shift and proceed with their evil business as usual on Planet B. In the meantime, they are doing everything possible to take as many sleeping human beings with them on planet B, as they can harvest in these times of tribulations.

“The Forces of Light and the highly evolved earth souls are doing their best to awaken as much incarnated entities as possible, so that they can make their own choices based on their free will and personal knowledge. The alternatives are: 1) to awaken and ascend with the earth in the 5th dimension, 2) to leave earth and go back to the original realms of all souls, or 3) to stay on a degrading catastrophic planet and experience more of the same and even worse.

“All evolved souls will ascend. This will include all star seeds (light workers), indigo, crystalline, and rainbow children (old souls), and most adult souls. According to the working model of soul age, as developed by the author, all adult and old souls will ascend. His estimations are that there are currently about 4-8% old souls and about 25-30% adult souls on earth.  

“During the End Times, the adult soul population will transgress into old souls and most old souls (star seeds) will ascend in the 5th dimension prior to the final mass Ascension. The transition from one soul age cycle to the next one is associated with a profound confusion that arises from the new psycho-mental and energetic orientation of the incarnated entities as to comply with the requirements of the new soul age.

“The adult souls have been exploring their inner dimension for the last 3-4000 years on earth in numerous incarnations, various cultural environments, races, social positions, and dramatic destinies. Quite often they have chosen the role of the martyr and have consented to become victims of young souls who have to make the experience of the perpetrator and extinguish human lives in this soul age. This is part of their “fall from grace”, through which every soul must go. Such intensive human involvements and experiences create the necessary karma that has to be worked out step by step in the following incarnations when the ability to show compassion, love, and understanding have grown in the course of painful experience. This is the chief objective of the adult soul age.

“Therefore, in this soul age the incarnated entities must work out their karma either by consenting to become victims of other younger souls or to take responsibilities for other souls that require from them huge sacrifices. During this age cycle the adult soul experiences seldom moments of fulfillment and happiness. She has to live through many stressful moments and to shed many tears. For this reason her eyes are clear and shining.

“The eyes of young souls of lower grade of evolution are on the contrary dark and without any sparkling. It should be well known, at least among light workers, that the eyes of the incarnated entity are windows to the soul. Purely for this reason young souls cannot look in the eyes of adult and old souls, as they have to re-member the existence of the soul and this insight scares them to death. Most of these souls are product of genetic engineering by the dark forces and can be easily recognized by their lifeless, dark eyes.

“The vast majority of souls that have incarnated on earth at this time are in the young soul cycle (45-50%). Most of them are on the verge of being transgressed into the adult soul cycle. This transgression begins with a total confusion and a dramatic shift of previous beliefs and social habits. The young soul cycle is associated with a maximal amnesia, because in this age the soul has to focus its intent and abilities towards manipulating and changing the external world. These activities include physical matter, but also the manipulation of other entities under various conditions. This kind of experience is typical for the young soul age.

“The baby and child souls are also separated from the Source. However, as their mental abilities are rudimental, they are guided in an instinctive, subconscious manner by their souls throughout their life. Since they are unable to exert any influence on society, their biographies are well wrapped in rigid family structures, or they have the assurance to leave the body vessel prematurely, if they cannot cope with the harsh conditions on earth.

“The majority of baby and young souls can be found in third world countries, where the mortality rate due to diseases and poor living conditions is quite high, and life expectancy is low. In the industrial countries, baby and young souls can be found in rural areas with stable family structures. In this environment mobility and individuality are not needed to the same extent as in big cities and other urban areas, which are predominantly populated by young souls.

“As young souls live in maximal separation from the higher self and All-That-Is, their psychological characteristics are very similar to those of the dark forces that live for eons of time in total separation from the Source. Therefore, they tend to cooperate with them or to succumb to their dark influence from the 4th dimension. Most of the current Elite are young souls.

“The dark forces in the 4th dimension are defined in the esoteric literature as demonic, Luciferian, satanic (Rhyee), etc. In previous times, for instance, in ancient Greece and Hellenism, there was a better understanding for these dark forces and their despicable influence on human behaviour. Plotinus, the founder of Neo-Platonism, the most sophisticated Gnostic teaching in the history of Western civilization, has described these demonic forces extensively and very precisely in his Enneads.

“Christianity borrowed its knowledge on the dark forces from him and other Neo-Platonists, but distorted their teachings to such an extent that the primitive and very corrupt idea of “the Devil” or “Evil” as a distinct entity was born. This distortion was deliberately forged by the Orion reptilians during the Dark Ages, when their reign on earth was unlimited.

“The concept of evil, such as Bush’s “axis of evil”, Reagan’s “empire of evil” (Soviet Union), is used anytime, when an evil one has made up his mind to commit crimes on humanity and needs a false pretext and a rectification for his intended crime. This pattern has remained invariant throughout history.

“It will be sufficient to point out to the fact that the American nation is paradigmatic for the collective behaviour of young souls: It is the classical young soul nation on earth that dominates and determines the behaviour of a large portion of humanity. The plots and protagonists of Hollywood films have stipulated these negative, perverse, truly dark features of the young American souls to the utmost. This is the psycho-mental mind-set of present-day humanity and, to the opinion of the author, one need few words to persuade the reader as to how deplorable the situation on earth has become prior to Ascension.

“This year [2011], the huge wave of young souls on earth will enter the adult soul cycle. This transgression is associated with a radical shift in their obsession with the manipulation of the outer reality towards the multidimensionality of the inner soul. This process begins with a total confusion of this population of incarnated entities, as none of their young soul beliefs of maximal separation will hold true after their energetic transformation.

“The events that are about to unfold very soon will pull the rug away from under their feet and they will have to glimpse into the abysses of their “rotten” souls.  This will be a very painful experience, and their reactions and mental aberrations at this time will surpass anything known so far. The recommendation of the author to the light workers is to see through these events with a great portion of relaxation and humor and to not let them being dragged down by the psychopathic and schizophrenic moods of their surroundings and on the world stage.

“The transgression from one soul age into the next one is the greatest challenge to every soul during her incarnation cycle. For this reason some souls prefer to perform this transformation as excarnated entities in the 5th dimension, because it is less dramatic. Other, more courageous souls make this transformation in the 3d-reality. There is no fixed rule to this. The transgression from one soul age to another is associated with a massive release of energetic blockages in the four bodies or fields of the incarnated entity – the physical, emotional, mental, and causal.

“During this time, the seven body chakras also undergo a huge energetic transformation that is generally referred to as light body process. It begins with the 4th heart chakra that opens first, as this is currently the case with most light workers, When it is fully opened, it enlarges significantly and encompasses the lower three chakras, and unifies them with the upper three chakras. The newly built chakra is a unified chakra of the human body. It allows the flow of much more energy from the higher self and the higher realms into the physical body.

“The massive transformation of the physical body can now begin with a high speed. The goal is to augment the frequency of the organic body to that of the ethereal body. At that point the phase transformation of the organic body into light body can be instantaneously accomplished. This description holds true for the individual Ascension process, when the entity can ascend without being supported by earth’s Ascension and the cosmic tsunami wave at the end of 2012.

“The 6th and 7th chakra of such highly evolved entities must be fully opened and connected with the 7th to 14th chakra of the over-soul. Normally, the 6th and 7th chakra are closed in most incarnated entities. This is the reason, why the vast majority of the incarnated entities on earth do not exhibit any medial abilities.

“With the opening of the portal 10.10.10, these upper chakras have also begun to open by most star seeds, and they are now connected with their higher self. Only incarnated entities who have achieved this level in the light body process will qualify for Ascension prior to mass Ascension, most probably after the last, but one, portal 11.11.11 is opened in late autumn this year [2011].  

“With the beginning of this year [2011], humanity has fully entered the process of transgression from one soul age into the higher one. This process is not truly comprehended by most light workers, and it is a non-entity for the rest of mankind. This must change radically this year. A major objective of this essay is to expand human consciousness and to make the people aware of this astral process that now takes place behind the curtain, but will very soon unleash its force on mass psychology and behaviour.

“Some young souls will successfully manage their transgression into the adult soul age in the End Times and will qualify for Ascension. Others will return to the 5th dimension as excarnated souls and the rest will remain on planet B. Some of these entities, who belong to the current Elite, may become the new Elite on this planet, provided the fact that they have survived the shift and the turmoil thereafter.  

“There will be some small waves of Ascension of star seeds, who have sufficiently progressed with their light body process before December 2012. This event will trigger a true spiritual revolution and evolution in the minds of most human beings. It will urge the people to rapidly make their minds to ascend with earth at the end of 2012. However, not all of them will be prepared for Ascension on December 21, when our planet will be in alignment with the central sun of the galaxy and with the other planets of the Galactic Federation, and a huge photon wave will flood earth.

“Some of them will stay on planet B for a while and will have the possibility to enter the 5th dimension at a later stage. In the meantime, they will have to live on a catastrophic earth. This circumstance will eventually facilitate their decision.

“In the post-shift period of 3-4 years, the two planets A and B will still have energetic interceptions that will allow the establishment of portals, which can be used by these entities to enter the 5th dimension. They will receive much help at this difficult time from the Forces of Light and from some highly evolved incarnated entities that have already ascended.

“After that the two earths will irreversibly separate, Planet A will move definitely in the 5th dimension and planet B will go along the path of greater density and separation from All-That-Is. This is the experience, which some very young souls will prefer to make in the course of their incarnation circle. One should accept their choice without expressing false moral prejudices.

“The splitting of earth and humanity in two streamlines of existence during the End Times is summarized in the famous statement “The separation of the wheat from the chaff”. The portion of mankind that will decide to remain on Planet B will have for a long period of time no idea of God or even religion, as there will be no more highly evolved souls on this planet that will be beacons of light, as most light workers are nowadays. There will be also no incarnated souls that will be ready to play the role of the martyr and give these young souls the possibility to commit all kinds of atrocities, while learning their karmic lessons. All entities on planet B will be equally evil.

“The society on planet B will constitute entirely of entities who will behave according to their egoistic, fearful view of total separation from each other and the Whole. They will consider all other entities as foes and will not be able to follow any moral or ethical principles whatsoever. Human life will have no value on this planet, and all kinds of heinous criminal acts will represent the normal way of living in this debased society. These entities will have to discover anew the Light in their own personality, before they can begin to evolve and experience Ascension in eons of time. This is the normal cycle of incarnation on earth and many other planets in the solar universes of 3d-space-time.

The entities who will ascend on planet A will stay in the 5th dimension for another 2000 years. Each individual will have the possibility to progress at his own pace. Death will no longer be necessary in order to leave this plane of existence – the entity will be able to de-materialize his light body at his own discretion. Many will soon be able to create and dissolve their light bodies whenever they wish. The contact with other souls from the soul family or past friends can be established anytime. Matter will be more fluid, and immediate Creation upon imagination will soon be possible for many ascended entities. Karma will no longer exist. All relations will be heart-based and will express Christ consciousness. The autarky of all entities will be fully guaranteed and abundance will be the normal state of living, as immediate Creation will be possible for all entities. Life in the 5th dimension, also known as Celestria, will be, indeed, Heaven.

“Therefore, the choice that mankind and every individual will have to make in the next two years will be as follows: Ascend to Heaven or stay on earth and live in Hell. Hardly a choice! But as the events will show, quite a number of human entities will eventually decide to follow their current masters – the Powers That Be – and will stay on earth B, where they can continue enjoying their heinous plans to enslave mankind, without the meddling of some star seeds.”

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Alternative interpretations of the 2012 dimensional shift

There are alternative interpretations of the evolution of human consciousness and the Ascension process to a higher dimensional frequency of being.  Some of these alternatives are:

2012 Dimensional shift: two separate Earths

One interpretation of the 2012 dimensional shift that is congruent with Dr. Stankov’s is that of Anthony Kane, grandnephew of Dr. Martin Luther King (Nobel Peace Prize winner) and contactee of an interdimensional governance body called the “Council of Twelve”.

Anthony Kane, a black American relative of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. (former recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize) and reported continuing contactee of representatives of an apparent extraterrestrial, hyperdimensional governance authority known as the “Council of Twelve,” has delivered a number of specific datelines and predicted developments concerning a dimensional shift which Earth and human consciousness is now undergoing in relation to the year 2012, according to information Mr. Kane received from the “Council of Twelve.”

Mr. Kane describes the “Council of Twelve” as stating that during the nine days from December 12, 2012 (12/12/12) to December 21, 2012, the planet Earth will split dimensionally into two separate Earths, each of which has different dimensional frequencies.  Mr. Kane describes this as a process analogous to the way that a single cell can split into two cells.

According to the “Council of Twelve,” humans with a consciousness anchored in fear will remain in the third dimensional Earth.  Individuals who are experiencing a “conscious awakening” and putting an effort into being conscious of the shift will migrate into the new dimension of the fifth dimensional Earth.

Dimensional portal opening on 11.11.11

Both Dr. Stankov and Mr. Kane independently Mr. Kane describe an interdimensional portal to the 5th dimensiona opening on 11.11.11 (November 11, 2011) for the migration or ascension of certain individual humans at that time to the 5th dimensional existence.  

Both Mr. Kane and Dr. Stankov have stated that they may be migrating to the 5th dimension on 11.11.11.  Mr. Kane indicates he was told this by the Council of Twelve.

Readers can listen to an in-depth interview with Anthony Kane and Alfred Lambremont Webre at:

2012: Dr. Martin Luther King relative, contactee, brings UFO/ET message of dimensional shift in 2012

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Time acceleration matrix: A shift toward unity consciousness

Dr. Carl Johan Calleman states that humanity has entered a portal in linear time when the singularity at the core of our universe has begun to emanate a wave of universal, ‘enlightened universal consciousness’ that began on March 9, 2011 and ends on October 28, 2011.  From then on the singularity at the core of our universe will emanate constant ‘enlightened universal consciousness.’

The singularity at the center of our galaxy (the galactic center ‘black hole’) modulates this universe consciousness energy wave as well, to which all of our souls and minds have access.

Universal alternating energy wave movements have been a feature of our universe, says Dr. Calleman, since the Big Bang, and it is these wave movements that have shaped the nature of consciousness in our universe over the past 18 billion years.

The final wave of singularity emanations (from March 9 – October 28, 2011) of ‘enlightened universal consciousness’ itself is the culmination of all alternating energy wave movements since the creation of our universe in the Big Bang itself.

After October 28, 2011, as Dr. Calleman stated in a prior Examiner.com interview with Alfred Lambremont Webre, “the universal alternating energy wave movements end, and Earth is set on a gradual setting of a potential to reach advanced utopian planet status – a virtual ‘Garden of Eden’.”

That milestone marks the beginning of final preparations for entry of Earth into a long-prophesized Golden Age of Utopia.

The ‘pre-wave’ – like all universe energy wave emanations, creates the ‘meme’ or story content of our personal and our collective reality.  Dr. Calleman’s discoveries are suggesting that our highest thoughts and ‘memes’ are/may in fact be sourced from the energy waves of the universe singularity, mediated through the galactic singularity – the black hole at the center of our galaxy the Mayans called Hunab Ku.  

The singularity of our solar system is Sol, our sun - a dimensional portal to other galaxies, according to physicist Nassim Haramein.

These universe singularity energy waves serve as carrier waves of ‘the universe’s mind and spirit software’ - the way that the intentional universe (some call it source, the ‘sea of Light’ or God) lets us know of its intention for consciousness in the entire universe.

As a practical matter, it matters if we are tuned in and commit to the 9th Universal consciousness universe energy wave. The universe energy waves we humans tune in and commit to determine our planetary status and how we reach our potential as a planet.

Will Earth be a dystopia or a utopia?

According to this analysis, the good news is that our universe singularity is now emanating ‘utopia’ consciousness waves on its alternating energy carrier waves.

The more we humans are individually and collectively tuned into the universal energy wave of ‘enlightened universal consciousness,’ and committed to achieving unity, non-dualistic consciousness, then the stronger the ‘positive timeline’ becomes, and the more rapidly we achieve our potential as a planet – “a potential to reach advanced utopian planet status.”

Readers can continue to explore Dr. Carl Johan Calleman’s perspective at:

GOOD NEWS! Universe singularity now emanating energy for ’enlightened unity consciousness’

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI July 7
« on: July 09, 2011, 03:27:23 PM »
P.S. - Thanks guys for kudoing my previous post.  I apologize for the errors.  

I also still think that the Jacksons act at times like they swallowed the canary - because their brother has shared many truths with them - and is helping them to awaken and stay that a way.

I saw Paris with the Milky Way and Stars pic.  Wow is all I can say.  Except, we're riding the 9the Wave.

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI July 7
« on: July 09, 2011, 02:51:21 PM »
Quote from: "~Souza~"

@peacock: Although I agree on many of your points, I get the feeling you didn't really get TS' post. Please point out where he is saying that the Jacksons are still controlled or have plotted to murder Mike? Where is he disrespectful to any of them? All I see is full support and an attempt to make people see why their situation is no picnic at the moment. Yes this is a movie, I have said so since day 1 to be specific, but even though entertaining and funny as hell at times, this is serious shit. Part of this hoax IS to bring some evil people down, otherwise he could never have pulled this off with help of the FBI.

I am going to comment on TS' post in a later post, just wanted to mention this. TS is not dissing anyone, I think you jumped to conclusions too fast.  

Ad  nauseam by this point to some I’m sure, but I have readily relayed many times why I think I’ve seen MJ.  Again, maybe it’s just me, but reflectively considering this, and as I’ve looked at info and blatant clues from the beginning of this hoax – and of course, researching things touched by Michael’s life before hoax (discover the man you never knew.  doesn't sound like he wants for people to just learn who wanted him "dead") IMO, I don’t find that he was in imminent danger days, weeks and months leading up to 6-25-09.  Someone could have killed him with a silencer - high powered rifle - et al.

Someone did want his catalog.  I read somewhere that there is oil at Neverland Ranch.  Hello!  Surely, if that is true alone – then there would be some that were envious and jealous of MJ – and probably always have been.  Some (elites – profiteers) have always exacted a price/tax on any resource or good they covet.  It’s like in the Mob in the old days where shopkeepers and the like had to pay “protection money.”  Then there are those biased and prejudiced types full of racism and feeling a sense of entitlement that they think they demand but not so for blacks.  Many think blacks are inferior and should never hold as much as Michael accumulated from his “hard work and dedication.”  Some have always hated the fact that he prospered in more ways than one and built up such a fortune, fame and built up many people’s hearts.

So ‘ell yeah – some wanted MJ eliminated.  But since I don’t believe MJ lived at that Carolwood address, I really can’t accept any of the evidence from the 911 call on.  I think it is part of a script.  It’s fine if some want to rule out murder – and think that MJ escaped it just in time.  I can’t go there – because I wouldn’t be true to myself.  

If TS wanted people to debunk the murder theory, why wait so log – as he made sure to debunk it himself in the beginning of his updates.

As it pertains to Latoya’s book, I’ve said all along that MJ was directing them (family members) in all ways that have to do with him and his name.  Surely, it is a mixture of fiction and truth.  No question, because the fact that MJ is alive is truth.  The fact that he dies is fiction.  Latoya and Papa Joe have been speaking about murder from the beginning off and on – but I’ve always been of the mind that this is what MJ directed them to say.  This is where the ‘exposé will come in.  He will in time expose the fact that at one time there were those that were trying to kill him and send him to prison.  He escaped prison.  He moves around freely.  If someone wanted Michael Jackson dead that bad – they could have gotten him.  He could have been set up by someone he thought to be a close personal friend.  Stuff happens.  But again, he was able to live freely up until 6-25-09, I suppose.

Then there again, I’ve seen him all over the place as I’ve seen his children and other family members.  They don’t seem to be under a threat.  The actors and actresses and others that MJ has hired to help him with this hoax/film probably signed non-disclosure agreements.  It really is that simple to me.  I don’t mean to spoil anyone else’s path to fulfilling whatever aspect of this adventure they aspire to.  Not in the least.  After all, I think there will be a VIDEO GAME having to do with Thriller II (TII) – indeed.

I think MJ brought the FBI in to help him to prove that he was set up two times.  Surely, in doing so, he investigated and passed on what he knew about this or that.  Mainly though, all he needed to do was to show the transcripts of both allegations – and the subsequent trial.  It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that many know that Tom Sneddon committed fraud upon the prosecutor’s office and on the court.  He was crooked, along with many others on the prosecution side.  MJ know the players who put him up to it – no question.  He knows of the ones that set him up the first time.

The thing though to me – is that he wants them to do something about it.  When are they going to do something about something they’ve known was a setup in the beginning?  “It doesn’t have to be that bad.”  MJ has done his part.  He has turned over evidence – and pointed out the direction to uncover the rest.  The FBI was supposed to already know what they did to MJ.  They have names and places going back almost twenty years.  Why haven’t they done something about it?  There shouldn’t be anything threatening about this process to MJ, because he is only out for justice and to clear his name.  All it takes is for him to have just ONE conversation with the boys from the FBI.  What more do they want from him?  I think he is using them to help bring the culprits to justice and to clear his name.  Ultimately, I think that is it.  Anyone not having anything to do with what they tried to do to him twice – is beyond such scrutiny.  All of the leeches and the mind controllers may be out of reach.  That’s why I think it is a REVENGE for those motherscratchers that raided his ranch and tried to send him up the river.

I read on one of those MJ/Diana boards that MJ made mention once of how (“they”) would go after someone close to an artist to get to said artist.  These posters thought he meant Janet and Diana, because at one time, they couldn’t get a record deal – and were basically shunned in the industry.  That’s another revenge he is doing as it pertains to One Victorious Entertainment Revenge.  

And…….I didn’t post my last post just to TS.  I also did it to share my take with the newbies that probably just can’t tear themselves away from this saga by this point.  I want them to keep watching and hoping, because I think MJ is not in any danger and neither of his family members.  He will be back.  I firmly believe that.  He is too obsessed with creating – and he totally loves his art, music and dance – and he’s admitted that “The best is yet to come.”

Lastly and again, I said this way back when on the other board – and I forget who (sorry) said it here, but said one reminded me of it.  MJ also has the FBI’s protection for pulling off this hoax.  He feared for his life at one point at least – and that is surely enough.  By this point though – he and the Jacksons are being protected by a POWER higher than the FBI.  He is being protected whilst producing TGSOE. moonwalk_/

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI July 7
« on: July 08, 2011, 01:40:40 PM »
Souza, or moderator, please deleted my first post on this thread.  I edited my second one.  I didn't know the first had posted obviously.  Many thanks.

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI July 7
« on: July 08, 2011, 01:24:49 PM »
Ok, now let me get this straight.  TS portends that there was a conspiracy against MJ right up till 6-25-09.  Yet on the other hand, he says that MJ planned the hoax death for years – reminding us of the numerology again.  So…….how is it then that MJ knew umpteen years ago that this very scenario of AEG/Murray would happen exactly as he what..............?  Thought and predicted it?  That makes no sense to me.  Again, MJ knew years ago that he needed to fake his death on 6-25-09 because there would be people trying to kill him at his rented Carolwood address.  NOT!  He wouldn’t have been that psychic to have predicted such a thing.  Plus, I don’t believe he ever lived at that address.  And if Latoya has lied before JUST TO PROTECT MJ’S HOAX – then why should we believe everything she reported in book?

In other words, surely there is a message in her book, and I’ve said all along that there was a conspiracy against MJ in the past.  She mentions 9-11-2001 – and then she jumped to 6-25-09 as it pertains to the timeline that someone wanted to kill him.  Meanwhile, MJ sort of mentions to Jessie Jackson that there was a conspiracy – and this was in 2005.  Fast forward to later that year when he moves to Ireland – and then spends some time in Bahrain.  Then, eventually IT'S REPORTED (Fake plant story for MJ – HOAX property etc) that MJ rented a mansion on Carolwood.  Is MJ that naïve and slow that he would move to that location just to prove someone was about to kill him?  So this would be the “sting” part – I assume?  He moved there to set up whom?  Had he entered into the so-called agreement with AEG back in 2008 (when it had been reported that MJ had six months to live – and let’s not forget when it went viral that he’d died)?

So in essence what I still can’t wrap my brain around is that MJ lived free of any pressures seemingly before 6-25-09.  He came and went.  He showed his children to the world.  In my opinion, he lived in Beverly Hills Hotel or the Bel Air one as he prepared for the hoax.  So again, this theory means that he sought out AEG and/or agreed with Randy Phillips to do the concerts – but when they upped the ante, he changed his mind and thereby planned this death hoax in order to get out of the concerts – because he didn’t want to do them because he hates touring – and/or he changed his mind because they were going to make him do fifty concerts.

Meanwhile, AEG and SONY and the MOB and many others (though – TS doesn’t want to call them the Illuminati) wanted MJ dead if he didn’t do the concerts.

Also, TS is purporting that the family, Jermaine, Latoya and Randy (latest tweets)  are just now feeling comfortable enough to write books and what not exposing the truth about what happened to their brother.  Why now?  It doesn’t make sense.  If the family was threatened to keep quiet of MJ’s “murder” back then, then what in the world has changed?  It makes no sense.  If they “murdered” MJ and were told to keep quiet or else – then what happened?  They move around freely.  Latoya was on the Donald Trump show – and they say that he is a tool for these profiteers, so this would lead some to believe that the family not only went along with the “murder” of their brother, son and father, but they are being made to go on living their lives like they have not a care in the world.

MJ’s children are out and about – and it would be so easy to kidnap them.  But wait…….they don’t have to do that, because the family will turn them over to anyone that wants them, because they are so afraid to say – NO!  They could have just negotiated for Debbie to have them then – if they don’t care about exposing them every other day in the media.  

Again, AEG and others threatened the family – and made them allow them to host the Memorial and the fake funeral of MJ.  But wait……., they were made to postpone it three months – as none of the proceedings after the fake death on 6-25-09 were in their hands anyway.  THE JACKSONS ARE BEING CONTROLLED AND ARE AFRAID FOR THEIR LIVES.  That’s preposterous.  One has to either believe that the family knows who killed their brother – but are spineless because they are under threat – so this is the reason they DID not yell bloody murder within the first couple of days of the death.  The entire Jackson family is under threat.

My thing is how can the Jacksons prove it – PERIOD?  Are they now piling on by saying that not only do we know who killed our loved one, we are going to expose it – when……………………..???????  Latoya can’t be too afraid as she has been seen all over the place promoting her book.  I'm trying to use critical thinking here.  Or does she now have permission from her minder to publish a book?  Is the entire family under mind control?

I’ve seen MJ many times since 6-25-09 – and no, it wasn’t a double.

I first saw him as a GHOST on Larry King Live as his brother sat there chatting.

Then, there is a video of Randy and Marlon riding in a tinted SUV – with whom some believe, was MJ in the back seat.

Then there was Hat Man Tan at the Memorial and fake Funeral.  (I know Hat Man was MJ)  If MJ was so afraid for his life – why did he show up at both places?

Then there is Dave-Dave.  There are so many wonderful videos where without a shadow of a doubt, to me, that was MJ.  I love the one where they show MJ walking as Dave-Dave.  That is MJ’s walk.  Then, they showed the one where MJ kept saying Uh – and just like he did on Larry King Live as Dave-Dave.

Then some speculate that MJ was at the VHI’s and did something with Janet during Scream.

Then, some believe he was the 5th or 6th dancer at the BET awards.

Then at the Grammy awards, I think he was Mr. Magoo.

Then, I think he was on O-bee’s rap – Wanna Be Starting Something.

He probably was with O-bee and Jae-R on the song A Toast.  Same thing with Under Pressure.

Evan Ross talks about MJ in the present tense after 6-25-09.  He said MJ was guiding his career in Music.
B. Howard admitted that MJ was hands on his CD – Genesis.
B. Howard had picture on his website with the words that speck out GAME OVER.  This was how much MJ was hands on alright.
MJ at UCLA with the bodyguards trying to hide him?
MJ at the coroners?  (ON WBSS – O-bee – “My flow (rapped words) might leave you in a coroner – but we ain’t here to kill.  We here to do what we can.  I keep working – and do it for my fans.”  “Bang-Bang-ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.”
MJ at Planet Hollywood?
MJ as hologram with Latoya in Russia.
MJ as robot man.
MJ as the old man dancing – John Edwards – although there is a real John Edwards.
MJ with the SAW mask on 10-31-09.

And on and on.  I keep bringing this up to say that I believe strongly that MJ is alive and is directing his hoax.  If the numerology is to be believed, 6-25-09 was the date regardless.

I haven’t seen nor do see – even with this update – that MJ participated in a “sting” on 6-24 and 6-25-09 to set up his murderers.  It doesn’t add up to me.  If he had the FBI’s help, then he could have pointed the finger his da@n self.  Why fake a death to catch many thieves and potential murderers.  No one can convince me that this flimsy of a case, where most of the evidence wouldn’t even hold up in court – will catch anyone.

I’ve always been of the mind that MJ will expose all of those conspirators that charged him with crimes he didn’t commit.  Oh yeah – he wants to take them down – and if that included any of the shady characters that we’ve learned about, then so be it.  But to me, he is about exposing the ones that had him charge falsely two times - and other than those that almost sent him to prison.

He can’t be too worried about his life as I’ve seen him a lot of places – and he’s been constantly creating from the beginning of this hoax, and he is in charge of his estate.  How asinine does it sound to purport that the Estate Executors are a part of the conspiracy, MJ is not in charge of his estate – but seemingly, they are doing the right thing by him.  Or, did the powers that be (whomever) make these two men take over the estate after they killed MJ.  And they added Diana because……………..to the will?  I think the will is fake and was not entered into in 2002.

The brothers (Jacksons) are seen hugging Kenny Ortega a little too tight for me to believe that they were made to go along with the murder – and they were made to show such affection to one of the men that killed their brother.  They were forced to laugh during the Memorial at the end.  The sisters thought something was so funny during their visit to the Nokia Theater.  Not!  The entire Jackson family is not so evil that they would be cowards scream to bloody hell that someone killed their brother and they know who did it.  And Omer – someone killed my father – but I’m so shallow that I’m going to post up my video Red Nikes a day after my father’s Memorial.  Not!

An Expose’ is in order – no question, but I don’t believe MJ escaped death by the skin of his chinny-chin-chin on 6-25-09.  He planned this hoax for a long time.  Ms. Ross’s video for I Love You – and the MAN-HAT-TAN also sealed the deal for me.

There may be some evil people involved in all of this, but to me, the Jacksons aren’t the ones – and they aren’t being controlled by the ones that supposedly have them under threat.  It makes no sense.  It’s like saying that on the one hand, they are scared to death for themselves and their families, yet on the other, they are out their promoting many MJ related things and books.  They aren’t trying to get rich off of MJ.  I think they are doing what HE DIRECTS them to do – and not some (spook or Illuminati – Mob types).  It doesn’t fit.

I don’t believe that he participated in a sting on 6-24-09 or 6-25-09.  He didn’t live there.  It was a hoax house.  I believe that MJ will incorporate some of the things that were done to him and to his name – no question, but it will all be wrapped up in the script.

I don’t believe that a trial has to take place for MJ to reveal whatever.  It makes no sense.  Many people know that he is alive.  Many know that he is filming and documenting – and many know that this is Thriller II.  I believe it’s mainly a movie.  No one will ever change my mind – to include TS.  

MJ can’t bring down the evil ones by himself.  He is after Revenge though.  And he has enough power to plant stories in the press and get his message out anyway he knows how.  Latoya ain’t worried about no NOW.  I mean really!  But if most on here believe this theory by TS, then I suppose this forum will be closing soon.  No one on here is going to help bring any so-called conspirators to justice.  I don’t believe MJ told some fans to help him.  Please!

If MJ is BACK – then he doesn’t like it when people dis and hate on his family.

This is MJ’s:

Genesis
Adventure
Master
Excellence

One
Victorious
Entertainment
Revenge

GAME OVER!  How does the above equate to a takedown of the powers that be – totally?  That boy stated that he is “I’m obsessed with creating.”  He is performing "The Geatest Show On Earth."

He is also trying to RESTORE HIS NAME!

"You go MJ."  I'm so glad you are still with us in the flesh."

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI July 7
« on: July 08, 2011, 01:15:56 PM »
Ok, now let me get this straight.  TS portends that there was a conspiracy against MJ right up till 6-25-09.  Yet on the other hand, he says that MJ planned the hoax death for years – reminding us of the numerology again.  So…….how is it then that MJ knew umpteen years ago that this very scenario of AEG/Murray would happen exactly as he what..............?  Thought and predicted it?  That makes no sense to me.  Again, MJ knew years ago that he needed to fake his death on 6-25-09 because there would be people trying to kill him at his rented Carolwood address.  NOT!  He wouldn’t have been that psychic to have predicted such a thing.  Plus, I don’t believe he ever lived at that address.  And if Latoya has lied before JUST TO PROTECT MJ’S HOAX – then why should we believe everything she reportedin book?

In other words, surely there is a message in her book, and I’ve said all along that there was a conspiracy against MJ in the past.  She mentions 9-11-2001 – and then she jumped to 6-25-09 as it pertains to the timeline that someone wanted to kill him.  Meanwhile, MJ sort of mentions to Jessie Jackson that there was a conspiracy – and this was in 2005.  Fast forward to later that year when he moves to Ireland – and then spends some time in Bahrain.  Then, eventually IT”S REPORTEF (Fake plant story for MJ – HOAX property etc that MJ rented a mansion on Carolwood.  Is MJ that naïve and slow that he would move to that location just to prove someone was about to kill him?  So this would be the “sting” part – I assume?  He moved there to set up whom?  Had he entered into the so-called agreement with AEG back in 2008 (when it had been reported that MJ had six months to live – and let’s not forget when it went viral that he’d died).

So in essence what I still can’t wrap my brain around is that MJ lived free of any pressures seemingly before 6-25-09.  He came and went.  He showed his children to the world.  In my opinion, he lived in Beverly Hills Hotel or the Bel Air one as he prepared for the hoax.  So again, this theory means that he sought out AEG and/or agreed with Randy Phillips to do the concerts – but when they upped the ante, he changed his mind and thereby planned this death hoax in order to get out of the concerts – because he didn’t want to do them because he hates touring – and/or he changed his mind because they were going to make him do fifty concerts.

Meanwhile, AEG and SONY and the MOB and many others (though – TS doesn’t want to call them the Illuminati) wanted MJ dead if he didn’t do the concerts.

Also, TS is purporting that the family, Jermaine, Latoya and Randy (latest tweets)  are just now feeling comfortable enough to write books and what not exposing the truth about what happened to their brother.  Why now?  It doesn’t make sense.  If the family was threatened to keep quiet of MJ’s “murder” back then, then what in the world has changed?  It makes no sense.  If they “murdered” MJ and were told to keep quiet or else – then what happened?  They move around freely.  Latoya was on the Donald Trump show – and they say that he is a tool for these profiteers, so this would lead some to believe that the family not only went along with the “murder” of their brother, son and father, but they are being made to go on living their lives like they have not a care in the world.

MJ’s children are out and about – and it would be so easy to kidnap them.  But wait…….they don’t have to do that, because the family will turn them over to anyone that wants them, because they are so afraid to say – NO!  They could have just negotiated for Debbie to have them then – if they don’t care about exposing them every other day in the media.  

Again, AEG and others threatened the family – and made them allow them to host the Memorial and the fake funeral of MJ.  But wait……., they were made to postpone it three months – as none of the proceedings after the fake death on 6-25-09 were in their hands any=way.  THE JACKSONS ARE BEING CONTROLLED AND ARE AFRAID FOR THEIR LIVES.  That’s preposterous.  One has to either believe that the family knows who killed their brother – but are spineless because they are under threat – so this is the reason they DID not yell bloody murder within the first couple of days of the death.  The entire Jackson family is under threat.

My thing is how can the Jacksons prove it – PERIOD?  Are they now piling on by saying that not only do we know who killed our loved one, we are going to expose it – when……………………..???????  Latoya can’t be too afraid as she has been seen all over the place promoting her book.  I'm trying to use critical thinking here.  Or does she now have permission from her minder to publish a book?  Is the entire family under mind control?

I’ve seen MJ many times since 6-25-09 – and no, it wasn’t a double.

I first saw him as a GHOST on Larry King Live as his brother sat there chatting.

Then, there is a video of Randy and Marlon riding in a tinted SUV – with whom some believe, was MJ in the back seat.

Then there was Hat Man Tan at the Memorial and fake Funeral.  (I know Hat Man was MJ)  If MJ was so afraid for his life – why did he show up at both places?

Then there is Dave-Dave.  There are so many wonderful videos where without a shadow of a doubt, to me, that was MJ.  I love the one where they show MJ walking as Dave-Dave.  That is MJ’s walk.  Then, they showed the one where MJ kept saying Uh – and just like he did on Larry King Live as Dave-Dave.

Then some speculate that MJ was at the VHI’s and did something with Janet during Scream.

Then, some believe he was the 5th or 6th dancer at the BET awards.

Then at the Grammy awards, I think he was Mr. Magoo.

Then, I think he was on O-bee’s rap – Wanna Be Starting Something.

He probably was with O-bee and Jae-R on the song A Toast.  Same thing with Under Pressure.

Evan Ross talks about MJ in the present tense after 6-25-09.  He said MJ was guiding his career in Music.
B. Howard admitted that MJ was hands on his CD – Genesis.
B. Howard had picture on his website with the words that speck out GAME OVER.  This was how much MJ was hands on alright.
MJ at UCLA with the bodyguards trying to hide him?
MJ at the coroners?  (ON WBSS – O-bee – “My flow (rapped words) might leave you in a coroner – but we ain’t here to kill.  We here to do what we can.  I keep working – and do it for my fans.”  “Bang-Bang-ohhhhhhhhhhhhh.”
MJ at Planet Hollywood?
MJ as hologram with Latoya in Russia.
MJ as robot man.
MJ as the old man dancing – John Edwards – although there is a real John Edwards.
MJ with the SAW mask on 10-31-09.

And on and on.  I keep bringing this up to say that I believe strongly that MJ is alive and is directing his hoax.  If the numerology is to be believed, 6-25-09 was the date regardless.

I haven’t seen nor do see – even with this update – that MJ participated in a “sting” on 6-24 and 6-25-09 to set up his murderers.  It doesn’t add up to me.  If he had the FBI’s help, then he could have pointed the finger his da@n self.  Why fake a death to catch many thieves and potential murderers.  No one can convince me that this flimsy of a case, where most of the evidence wouldn’t even hold up in court – will catch anyone.

I’ve always been of the mind that MJ will expose all of those conspirators that charged him with crimes he didn’t commit.  Oh yeah – he wants to take them down – and if that included any of the shady characters that we’ve learned about, then so be it.  But to me, he is about exposing the ones that had him charge falsely two times - and other than those that almost sent him to p.

He can’t be too worried about his life as I’ve seen him a lot of places – and he’s been constantly creating from the beginning of this hoax, and he is in charge of his estate.  How asinine does it sound to purport that the Estate Executors are a part of the conspiracy, MJ is not in charge of his estate – but seemingly, they are doing the right thing by him.  Or, did the powers that be (whomever) make these two men take over the estate after they killed MJ.  And they added Diana because……………..to the will?  I think the will is fake and was not entered into in 2002.

The brothers (Jacksons) are seen hugging Kenny Ortega a little too tight for me to believe that they were made to go along with the murder – and they were made to show such affection to one of the men that killed their brother.  They were forced to laugh during the Memorial at the end.  The sisters thought something was so funny during their visit to the Nokia Theater.  Not!  The entire Jackson family is not so evil that they would be cowards scream to bloody hell that someone killed their brother and they know who did it.  And Omer – someone killed my father – but I’m so shallow that I’m going to post up my video Red Nikes a day after my father’s Memorial.  Not!

An Expose’ is in order – no question, but I don’t believe MJ escaped death by the skin of his chinny-chin-chin on 6-25-09.  He planned this hoax for a long time.  Ms. Ross’s video for I Love You – and the MAN-HAT-TAN also sealed the deal for me.

There may be some evil people involved in all of this, but to me, the Jacksons aren’t the ones – and they aren’t being controlled by the ones that supposedly have them under threat.  It makes no sense.  It’s like saying that on the one hand, they are scared to death for themselves and their families, yet on the other, they are out their promoting many MJ related things and books.  They aren’t trying to get rich off of MJ.  I think they are doing what HE DIRECTS them to do – and not some (spook or Illuminati – Mob types).  It doesn’t fit.

I don’t believe that he participated in a sting on 6-24-09 or 6-25-09.  He didn’t live there.  It was a hoax house.  I believe that MJ will incorporate some of the things that were done to him and to his name – no question, but it will all be wrapped up in the script.

I don’t believe that a trial has to take place for MJ to reveal whatever.  It makes no sense.  Many people know that he is alive.  Many know that he is filming and documenting – and many know that this is Thriller II.  I believe it’s mainly a movie.  No one will ever change my mind – to include TS.  

MJ can’t bring down the evil ones by himself.  He is after Revenge though.  And he has enough power to plant stories in the press and get his message out anyway he knows how.  Latoya ain’t worried about no NOW.  I mean really!  But if most on here believe this theory by TS, then I suppose this forum will be closing soon.  No one on here is going to help bring any so-called conspirators to justice.  I don’t believe MJ told some fans to help him.  Please!

If MJ is BACK – then he doesn’t like it when people dis and hate on his family.

This is MJ’s:

Genesis
Adventure
Master
Excellence

One
Victorious
Entertainment
Revenge

GAME OVER!  How does the above equate to a takedown of the powers that be – totally?  That boy stated that he is “I’m obsessed with creating.”  

"You go MJ."  I'm so glad you are still with us in the flesh."

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General Hoax Talk / Re: Hoaxpedia {HELP NEEDED!}
« on: July 07, 2011, 02:38:00 PM »
Hey Souza.  I like this idea.  I think the below has gotten lost in the translation.  Another DOT gone missing.  Credit to the posters though that thought it was a real clue back then.

I noticed that the last link that speaks about the patients' (so-called Murray supporters) testimonials initially found on Ed Chernoff's (Murray's first attorney - for acting purposes) website are gone.  At least, I can't seem to find them now.

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Great stuff!  See, this is what I'm talkin' 'bout.  MJ wants us to bust Murray out of the water.  Prove how he represents MJ.  I read part of an article that mentioned that they negotiated Murray turning himself in, because they want for their clients to have some form of dignity.  Yet, did they offer MJ the same?  No.  They handcuffed him and showed it to the world.  May haps this point is strictly for symbolism, because Murray was treated fairly in this aspect and MJ wasn't.  He turned himself in, but was handcuffed - and that mug shot.  Poor baby.  It sort of doesn't look like MJ did in May 2009.  Some on Bonnie's blog think that he was electro shocked before the pic was taken, so I don't know about that one for sure.  Murray's bogus hearing related things mirror MJ's, because that is the way MJ scripted it.  There is a message to his madness.

Again, the discrepancies surrounding this character are almost too many to count.  I still laugh out loud at the pics of that woman being with Blanket and them in Hawaii on 6-25-10 - supposedly - and the same woman being with Murray on the beach (didn't look like a beach and etc) - and I laugh at other clues.  MJ must have run out of actresses for those SHOTS.  And he mentions Doc Murray in Moonwalker video.  I mean really.  

I don't believe Murray helped to kill MJ.  I don't believe there was ever meant to be any concerts.  I think the O2 presser was staged.  The fake funeral was staged.  I don't think MJ and his children ever lived in that house.  I know it was not MJ's body in the ambulance.  And on and on.  

And let's not forget, MJ is the MASTER of disguises, for real.  He is truly a treasured piece of art himself - and is proving it more and more each day.  I've always been of the mind that MJ is proving that the Game is Over as it pertains to how they shunned and ridiculed him.  Said he'd lost it - and would never be relevant any longer after his acquittal.  How they lied about his album Invincible by before it was even out declaring it a failure.  How they were quick to write him off before and after the trial.  He has proved and is proving how much of a money-maker his name still is - and always will be.  They tried to destroy his name.  They tried to destroy his worth.  They tried to dehumanize him.  They lied on him, tried him for a crime that he didn't commit, and wanted to send him to the slammer as they threw away the key.  They were happily clapping with glee as they (the filthy media - if the shoe fits) showed video of the small jail cell MJ would live in for the rest of his life if convicted.  Again, he has a long list.  He has a forgiving heart, but like all humans, he can be hurt real bad, and he was.  He CAN"T forget it.  

"He's so good, but they can't see why.  He's in a zone.  Thirteen feet high.  Wanna start something, but they looking sloppy.  I'm all over the place boy.  You can't stop me!" mj_bad/

P.S. - And.......,I still love the Maya Angelou poem.

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI June 25
« on: July 06, 2011, 09:46:58 AM »
In my humble opinion, I strongly disagree with anyone putting out in the Universe that Michael stated as Dave-Dave that he wanted to free himself from his father’s name and legacy.  Do we not know how that sounds?  Cheap, first of all.  If that be the case, he should drop the name JACKSON.  When he got 18, he should have dropped it like a hot tamale.

He is proud of his name and his father.  Period!  He is proud of his MOTHERLAND – and his African brothers and sisters. Word!  He is proud of his children, his immediate family and his extended family.  Prince and Blanket have the middle name Joseph.  Some speculate that Omer’s real name for US purposes back when MJ brought him over at the age eight is Michael Joe Winters.  It’s on Google.  So much for hating his father and his father’s name –eh?

The main thing I see happening with this hoax from the beginning is THE JACKSON FAMILY DYNASTY AND JACKSON FAMILY UNITY.  Michael is not stupid.  He has called his father a managerial genius.  He has stated publically that he is very much like his father in a lot of ways.  As he has stated in Geraldo interview the values he learned from his father, the influences his father had on him and his siblings – and how his father is the one who taught them to believe in their ideals and to stand by their beliefs.  And no matter what – no STAR is ever too far to reach – and that you never give up.  NOW!

This hoax is a film. ARG/documentary and epose all wrapped up in one.  Michael’s father is partly responsible for MJ having such dreams and aspirations as it pertains to pulling off this hoax.  What did MJ have to forgive his father for?  Joe Jackson is the father.  Plus, he is helping his SON to pull it off - proper.

MJ was mind-controlled and there is video evidence of at least one of the time periods when this occurred.  I think there were three.  It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that his controllers would keep him from his family.  On Bennie’s blog – some great points were made pointing to this very fact.  What some don’t seem to get is that in exposing this aspect of what happened to him, MJ WILL PROVE BEYOND ANY SHADOW OF A DOUBT THAT ALTHOUGH THE CONTROLLERS TRIED TO KEEP HIM FROM LOVING AND TRUSTING HIS FAMILY.  GUESS WHAT?  THEY LOST.

It’s a VICTORY and TRIUMPH that the Jacksons HAVE a Family Dynasty.  It’s 2300 Hundred Jackson Street.  It’s a TAKEOVER by the Jacksons.  Michael is a Jackson.  He is proud to be one – and he is proving with this hoax how they all RULE.  They all have merit.  Michael is not BETTER than any of his family members.  Maybe to some narrow-minded and hard hearted people on this board is he better, but he is not!  He has sinned just like they all have.  Just like we all have.  No one is perfect.

MJ has stated that his family members are his best friends.  Where is the disconnect with some on this issue?  They are all in on this together.  They all have a lot of nerve.  They can all perform – and they are proving it now as we speak.  They can all act – as we all can act out of ourselves if we so choose.  They feel that it is a calling for them all to participate in this hoax/film – because they believe that God has called them to do it – with Michael at the helm.  

They understand what he’s been through, who controlled him at times and so on.  They know that he is a Gift from God.  They’ve always known it.  And for some to keep trying to disconnect MJ from his family, it’s not going to work.  He needs his family – period.  He needed them to pull off this hoax.  Without them, why would there be a need for a Memorial?  If MJ had only a brother left, would they have thought to carry out something like this?  The Jacksons - Variety Show was a huge success - and it wasn't just because of Michael.  They were all great.  

Without Papa Joe securing the deal for his children and co-producing it, MJ or the others might have faded from the scene.  Who knows how it would have turned out, but the odds, in my opinion, are that MJ wouldn't have blown up.  He might not have met Quincy when he did when they talked about doing music together, and so on - as it wouldn't have been DESTINY/destined (Another Jackson's tour name) for such a meeting.  As it was, it did happen and the rest is HISTORY/THEIRSTORY.  Not so without Papa Joe. Who would have been the pall bearers?  THE JACKSONS ARE COMING.  Unity and Higher Consciousness is coming and is here for the Jacksons.  They are for the most part AWAKE AND AWARE - and have always seemed to be alert.  I think the men have been aware for a long time.

This TAKEOVER is not just about MJ.  There is no question that his name and music is the one generating money and continued fame, but he doesn’t care about money.  He knows that paper money is all an illusion.  It’s about Gold as it pertains to wealth – and he has abundance over in Gabon, Africa for the taking if he so chooses, because it is a Gold Mining village.  Gold all around.  I don’t think that impresses MJ as much as love and unity does still.  He knows that money and gold can’t buy happiness.  Happiness comes from love and family and unity, and lastly HOPE.

Again, you’d be so very wrong to insinuate that MJ wants to free himself from his legacy.  What fallacy.  He is boldly performing this hoax with the help of all he Jacksons and Mama Kate’s relatives from her side.  If nothing else, he is proving that he indeed loves his LEGACY enormously – as it and his father is the only one he has.  This is why in the hotel room in Las Vegas, he repeated asked his father “What do I do”, as the arrest warrant was issued.  If not for his father, he made have indeed up in the big house.  He knows this.  Again, he is not stupid.  He knows that God wants him to HONOR HIS PARENTS.  He is taking care of them as he should.  Not only should he because he knows that it pleases God, he does it because he is A LOVER.  He knows how to LOVE.  He has a heart – and it is giving.

MJ knows that his LEGACY and the family name Jackson is where it is at.  They all are paying back with Revenge.  Who cares who likes this one or not.  They know us not.  We’re like specs of grain to them.  They understand their reality very much – and they can step outside of the illusion whilst at the same time – they have shifted many folk’s realities by pulling off this hoax.  THE KING OF POP is dead.  The King of many hearts and of an African Village – still reigns supreme with the help and protection of the Ultimate Supreme King.

If no other dot needs to be connected, it’s this one right here.  THE JACKSONS ARE COMING AND HAVE ARRIVED.  GAME OVER.  A TOAST.  And like Jackie said in the Jackson Family Dynasty series, “You know how we do when we are UNDER PRESSURE.

I liked your take Souza, but I disagree that what MJ will do eventually will be some kind of Spiritual Awakening to free the world.  He has already stated that he can't do it by himself.  I think what he wants us to do is to AWAKE to a higher level of Consciousness together.  That possibly would have the same affect you are purporting - no question.  Because the critical mass has already been reached.  The thing is, supposedly by 12-21-12 - all life forms's DNA will be upgraded.  What scientists call "junk DNA" is really DNA unactivated.  When it is activiated, "llok out", for then "Heal the World" will beome our Reality and we will ceast living a life of Duality.  That linear line will be replcaed by US living in the NOW with God and the Universe.  MJ more or less stated it in his 1992 Ebony interview from Africa.  He knows what's up, and many believe he is already there.  Awakened by God in all His glory.  Again, this is my take.

I also enjoyed reading several authors here lately on this theard, and especially from Bec,  Good going.

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI June 25
« on: June 29, 2011, 06:24:59 AM »
Great post Souza, but I think some are still missing my point.  It is that TS is not helping the ones that hope MJ is alive.  What some have posted here has already been posted over and over.  There have been people trying to tie this thing into the murder theory from the beginning.  Some truly believe it is a possiblity.  I don't, so I won't discuss it.  I never have.  It's not positive - and that is what I'm about.  I've only tried to remind some of this or that as it pertains to why I KNOW that MJ is alive.

OK, look at it like this.  Someone already said that this thread will go to thirty pages.  After that, where will we be?  Seriously.  Some have already pointed out that they have no proof of this or that.  And guess what, the proof won't come from this board.  They won't be consulting anyone on this board, so how can anyone going back and forth (and that is exactly what is happening) in this thread will help anything?  Again, I do understand what you posted Souza.  It is very thought provoking, but all it does in the long run is to keep people adding and piling onto what has already been speculated about.

There may be a court date, but it will be a hoax court day.  Some think MJ will BAM this year, and he might but he will BAM by next year if not.  I truly and strongly believe that.  To me, this is where the main focus should be.  I don't mean when.  I mean how and why he took such a drastic and sad way to do it.  Yes, it was sad to hear that he may have passed, but to me ever since I felt that he could have pulled this off - and when I finally truly believed in my heart that he did. I was elated and stayed positive.  I never faltered.  I think we should be concentrating on the postitive.  Because if we go this route concentrating on the negative, the door is going to be left closed on all of the awakening messages that I'm sure MJ wants people to look forward to.  We should still be rejoicing every chance we get that MJ is alive and is well, and not delighting in the fact that we proved it (which we truly can't to most).  We should be able to feel that his life is not in danger - and that he is documenting his story/expose in the way he feels is best.

It is what it is,  And we'll NEVER know why MJ did this totally.  It is enough for me just to know that he did it.  No one murdered MJ or tried to kill him leading up to 6-25-09.  He will epose what and who he wants to with this hoax.  He still show that at one point there were ones trying to drive him insane, drug him, mind control him, et al, but he out thought them, sought protection from God, and is living to tell his story and to continue sharing all of his gifts.  Now to me that's a big part of the BAM.  He has already BAMMED in that regard.

I'm just glad he is happy.  He's Awakened to full consciousness and he wants us all to join him in my estimation.  How can we do that with a dead corpse?  Because no matter in the way one might cross your t's and dot your i's, the ones new to the idea will be still be "stuck in the middle", in 3-D.  I think MJ = HOPE and UNITY.  I bet for the next show he does with his brother, it will be titled UNITY.

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