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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI 1/06
« on: January 06, 2011, 12:08:04 PM »
Just a remark about the self-proclaimed Doctor Death in this context, the doctor who uses plastination techniques to preserve corpses:
He has fought against Parkinson Disease for over two years now and the disease has changed his life completely. At the time of Michael's "death" he was already ill and most of his concentration was on his health.
He had brain surgery in the last years and was in hospital. There is no cure for the disease, it can only be made a little easier to endure.
He is preparing his own death in the near future as he says, closes many laboratories and many employees have to leave.

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TIAI ~ 2010 / Re: TIAI 12/30
« on: December 30, 2010, 11:17:26 PM »
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Ecclesiastes 7
Don't Take Anything for Granted
  A good reputation is better than a fat bank account. Your death date tells more than your birth date.

The Message (MSG)


So much wisdom in only a few words. A lot of wise comments already made here.
Only hours separate us from a new year, a time when people contemplate about the past year and think about what the new year might bring, and nobody knows.

Don't Take Anything for Granted
Things may not remain the way, they were before. Change can happen anytime, for the good or the bad.
We wish each other a Happy New Year in the hope of achieving happiness, peace and understanding and often we have to admit, we 'can't take anything for granted'.
If we follow the example of Elvis and Michael, we see two humble human beings who touched others just by their appearance and their inner light, their aura. Not everyone was able to see it, only the "enlightened", some only after their "deaths", when they suddenly realized, how much they had been mislead by reports, which had shed a bad light on the two of them, who had become victims of a bad press.
Their reputation was in shambles, they were called drug addicts, one even a pedophile. They suffered and were deeply hurt by all the wrong allegations.
Times have changed and the bad press seems very silent.
The symbolic Bible verses are cited, Jesus' suffering comes into our minds. He was crucified and ridiculed, but rose as a king.
Are our heroes prophets, sent our way to guide us and help us to see things in a clearer light? Quite a few said they have learned since their "death" occured, they have become more aware of things around them, have developed new pespectives in their own lives. Would anyone have told them they would have matured so much in such a short time, many would have brushed it aside in disbelief.

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A good reputation is better than a fat bank account. Your death date tells more than your birth date.
Both Michael and Elvis had it all, 'a fat bank account' as well as debts. Leeches were around them bloodsucking them until they could hardly stand it anymore. There were reports of them having been threatened, "taken care of" by bodyguards, who treated them badly and took away their freedom. They were controlled in every move they made, not everyone had access to them. And why? Not, because those who did this to them, loved and cherished them. They were interested in having a fat share of their bank account.
Their good reputation had to be destroyed in order for the world to see what weak creatures they were.
I don't believe in any of the drug-addiction stories. They may have been drugged against their will.
Both were against drugs, only for medical purposes. They were fighting drugs, you never know, they might be doing it still undercover and had to have a new identity not to be detected.
They could buy everything money could buy, yet they felt, there was more to life than wealth. They were well-read and spiritually interested. The bloodsuckers and those who tried to harm them, wanted to prevent them from becoming too spiritual. They had to function as a money machine. Elvis' books should be burned and Michael's library was destroyed.

Naturally
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your death date tells more than your birth date.
You've left traces when you die, whereas your life-book is empty when you're born.
If the two had to escape from danger, still unknown to most, their new life, new identity began with their death date.
LMP's written words were that He Knew and that their death was following the exact same pattern and she was devastated. What did she mean? A lot of speculation had been going on to decipher the meaning.
Elvis and Michael had spent a long time of their lives on stage, being adored and seen as stars with an image created by their performance, their managers, their charisma.
It could have well been, they needed a break from the glitter and glamour, not to be burnt out too soon.
Many of us have experienced themselves in just one and half years, how much of a rollercoaster it can be.
They were in the limelight, every single move was watched and registrated, often misinterpretated.
The image had to be replaced by something else. If that was the case, their death date might have been the begining of a new awareness, a re-birth in order to survive, either literally or mentally.
If only we Knew.
Anyhow, whatever the reason for their disappearing was, I just hope they are safe now and have a good new year with all their dreams fulfilled.

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Thanks for unlocking the thread. So TS hasn't been chased off at all, as feared by some. I keep reading the message again and try to read between the lines to understand the things that can't be said, and I am still puzzled by the strong Elvis connection.

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Introduce yourself / Re: Hello!!!!!!!
« on: December 23, 2010, 09:03:32 PM »
Quote from: "bonita"
Quote from: "Medium777"
i never said i am from US so Souza please respect my privacy and delete that post, because what you just did is not legal.  people, if you have something to ask about Michael, name it here. i will ask my spiritual guide in a channeling session

Medium, can you please ask your spirit guide if Michael will come back to the public. And if so, when.
Thank you.

Since you are a relatively new member of the forum: The forum has an official question list which can be found as a guide as information for new members on the board index. A lot of unanswered questions have accumulated over quite some months without the adequate answers up to now.
Would you mind asking your spiritual guide to find the missing clues, investigative members of the forum haven't yet been able to solve, despite trying hard for over a year?
Your endeavor would be appreciated a lot. The greatest gift you could get in return might certainly be the purity of attention of many a forum member.

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Introduce yourself / Re: Hello!!!!!!!
« on: December 23, 2010, 03:15:31 PM »
Quote from: "ni-co-le"
Quote from: "Tarja"
Quote from: "Medium777"
And watch out BOB !!!

what's a BOB? It's long time since I want to know

In Holland a BOB is someone who drives people home who drink to much ,and BOB doesnt drink at all  :mrgreen:   :lol: i hope i explained it correctly ?

It isn't a BOB, they presumably think of BOB as an assumed name, like f.e. John Smith imho.
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And Bob doesn't drink at all  :mrgreen:

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Twitter ~ Verified Accounts / Re: Tweets from iamdiddy
« on: December 22, 2010, 05:30:18 PM »
But Elvis hasn't got any 'f... gloves' to take off.
Can only mean Michael or a boxer who is going to fight in Vegas at the end of the year, but a boxer puts his gloves on, not off, when returning. What boxer is dancing? Muhammed Ali? Not really.Too long away from the ring.
By saying all these words he must be aware of the effects. So is he the next TR who is making allusions of MJ being alive and now even a concrete date of a return?
Well, I believe he is promoting himself and his new Dezember album. There is a video out there in which he speaks of himself all the time that he is coming back (The Return of PD). If he means himself and I think he does, then he uses MJ's fame for his own career. Another one of the so-called 'friends''?

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TIAI ~ 2010 / Re: TIAI 12/17
« on: December 19, 2010, 05:26:29 PM »
Quote from: "MsTrinity333"
Great redirect. I love it.
During the O interview Lisa was wearing purple (and pearls).  There were also sunflowers on the table.

Purple and violet are said to have been the highest spiritual colors for Elvis who was a very spiritual person, interested in God, life and life after death. Linda Thompson, one of his female friends, appeared in such a colorful dress at his funeral, as she knew Elvis' ideas about his own funeral, how he wanted it to be - happy. People looked at her in dismay. They didn't understand.
Purple also symbolizes both death and royalty in reference to Jesus' death and resurrection.
There are purple cloths covering Jesus on the cruzifix in Christian churches all over the place on the day, Jesus died. But these cloths are removed on resurrection day, the day he rises from the dead.
Lisa wearing purple color certainly wasn't coincidence, but carefully planned as every other detail in the O interview. The color purple might have a symbolic meaning that can be applied to both Elvis and Michael's death alike.

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Others / Re: Usher says he's ready to be the new MJ
« on: December 16, 2010, 06:01:45 PM »
He has reportedly joined Tom Cruise' s cult, Scientology by the influence of his wife.
He wants to become / or is a member of Scientology already.
Well, if that's the case, and I don't know if it's a rumor or reality, he may have been brainwashed.

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JA is in a cell all alone 23 hours a day. Total isolation. He might be a real threat to other gangsters in jail, so it seems.  But as there doesn't exist a death penalty in Britain, he's got to be grilled alive. This is the way martyrs are created. Why do I think I have heard a similar story before? If it only were known if he really is such a criminal to be treated like that.

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TIAI ~ 2010 / Re: TIAI 12/14 Eliza Case Info
« on: December 14, 2010, 07:07:32 PM »
And I wonder who is "THE SURVIVING HEIR OF VERNON E PRESLEY"? Is it Elvis himself, because Lisa is another defendant as well as the "unknown heirs". So how many are there?  :?
I am glad to hear from TS again after all the turmoil lately. Not chased off the board, as feared, but still monitoring the events. Life's a stage, really. So much happening at the moment. Not only bad news.

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They are trying to throw J. Assange under the bus, to break him.
Watching his mother speak about her concerns makes me feel uncomfortable.
History is being written at the moment: WikiLeaks as a weapon and it can't be stopped, unless in totalitarian states. I hope I am right. If there are restrictions following, our freedom of interacting and being informed by a free press will be endangered. These would be times, we don't need anymore.
Of course I also see the danger of releasing information which should remain secret in order for terrorists or enemies not to know some details. But this is up to government officials, how they protect their secret papers.
A lot of pressure is going on behind the scenes. Where is it going to end?

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General Hoax Talk / Re: Oh what a tangled web we weave
« on: December 14, 2010, 06:12:33 PM »
Quote from: "allthesevens"
When first we practise to deceive.......

So after all the mudslinging, thread locking and revelations of unscrupulous behaviour , are you, like me, left wondering just who to trust here?

Trust, hmm
 
But It was nice to see, Freda Josephine Mc Donald, aka Josephine Baker, had a short-lasting resurrection here on the board, she had forgotten quickly and later remembered, when someone reminded her of it.
So I wanted to find out more about who the real JB was and I learned, she was a fascinating woman, who had numerous female lovers, both while she was single and married, which I had not known before.

I think, one can only fully trust someone personally known, it is difficult on the web.
There are players out there and if you don't know their agenda, you can't speculate about it.
Michael used to say: " ... Don't believe everything you read and hear. Just because it's in black and white, does not mean it's the Gospel... " " ...And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe ... "

So I trust Michael and "still dare to believe" - what I choose to.
And I still hope, at least one of the locked threads will be opened again after some consideration.

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Is he a messenger, paving the way along the yellow brick road, in the name of his 'master' (he is his self-proclaimed 'servant')? A servant does what his master tells him in obedience. So does he carry out orders in a way, offering yellow ribbons on his way to his listeners' delight? He speaks of God and his belief in him.

The question is if he can be trusted in his remarks about MJ being alive. There are contradictory suggestive remarks about Michael, like he looks at someone from above, which could just mean anything, leaves way to interpreting. He hasn't spoken to him recently, but wants his readers to believe, he seems to be in the know of it all.

So on the one hand he speaks up in a soft voice, but on the other hand he can be quite vulgar.

He gives a lot of interviews and certainly gets well-paid for them. His name appears in many tabloids all over the world, so his own career is pushed, even if non-believers criticize him for speaking nonsense, spreading senseless conspiracy rumors.

Is he a promoter in his own name for a new record or is he testing the ground for the biggest comeback of the century, to see people's reactions to the news, so they in the background can react properly and be prepared for all eventualities?

As always, interesting, to say the least, but looking at it from 'above', just waiting for the outcome.
But I am going to lose my patience, I am afraid, if it's going to take longer than 2011. It can't go on forever like this, many will lose interest. All roads usually have an ending, unless they are dead end streets.

He isn't just a screenname like TS, claiming to know things for sure, without readers being able to verify if (s)he is making up interesting stories, but he is for real and has a face.
A lie from him would be a different matter, as he opens up for questions, willing to answer them, though not yet all of them free from being cryptic. No thread in his life can simply be locked, when questions are getting too hot. The heat is on now for him, and he started it without any regret so far, as it seems.
What for? For PR, then it would be kind of satanic, him being two-faced, not very healthy for a person going to church and telling the world about his faith in God who is guiding him according to his words.

I hope he doesn't prove to be another BOW, or one of the many pretenders.
Only time will tell.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Assange hints at UFO cable release
« on: December 11, 2010, 07:33:30 PM »
Quote from: "gwynned"
Quote from: "LovelyLurker"
I did predict that Assange would be shut up in any way possible ... so as far a wikileaks being a hoax?

No.... as far as the charges against him definatley..... they will grasp at straws in order to shut this man up and the bogus sex charges are just the beginning. They will use what ever they can in order to shut down the site and to shut down the man.

Think about the charges against Mr Jackson and how there was no evidence what so ever. They want      ( whoever they are ) want to shut up powerful people who want to get info out.  There will be more to try and stop Assange.

They could have stopped Assange long ago if 'they' really wanted to.  It's funny how people on this forum, used to dissecting the news on MJ, do not apply the same eye for detail to the regular news.  

If the all powerful 'they' wanted to bring down Assange, why the ridiculous charges?  Why disclose to the public how ridiculous the charges are and make it so obvious?  Reminds me of MJ 'dying' of propofol.  Who ever heard of it?  Who ever heard of Swedish law (where, BTW, sexual freedom is legendary) allowing for rape charges with a consenting adult?  Just because you read it on the internet don't make it factual!!!

The information being disseminated by Wikileaks is true.  The STORY is a lie.  I certainly support Assange and Wikileaks.

As far as the internet is concerned, recall that MJ emerged from the spider, a symbol of the internet.  I believe that MJ is not only behind the hoax, but is part of (possibly the driver of) what ever is behind the Wikileaks phenomenon.  As far as censorship on the internet, I think the battle is over.  The New York Times and the Guardian are described as 'partners' in disseminating the Wikileaks information.  As someone pointed out, if they're going to throw Assange in jail, they're going to have to censure the NY Times.

As it isn't easy to put Assange behind bars for leaking information got by informants - right of free speach guaranteed by the constitution - other means have got to be found to be able to get rid of him: false (of course I do not know if they are false or construed) accusations like a criminal offense (sexual harassment or rape), or if this all doesn't work, betrayal of state secrets, although his site is just the platform for informers, who are to blame, if they get caught and had confidential agreements before.
More and more people are going to support his site and the man himself for his courage to have dared to publish secret documents about governments, and be a whistleblower, who makes the powerful shudder at the very thought.
Let's say he is innocent according to Swedish laws, it would be difficult to file a lawsuit against him in Sweden, what would be the charges? If extradited to the US by the British judicial system, what he tries to prevent, he presumably might get into real trouble.
TS (Not our forum-TS) is no longer at hand, but others may be yearning to take over.
We have all witnessed what can happen to a person not guilty.
Should he be the "raper", then this is another crime and hasn't got anything to do with planned censorship of his platform.
The internet is a powerful tool as well, but they managed to close down parts of it, in which secret documents got leaked.
Freedom is precious, and especially freedom of speech if not misused.
Wouldn't it be a good idea if Wikileaks took over the MJ case and leaked valuable information about all the shady sides of the hoax, or murder, or kidnapping, so justice would be done and we could find closure?

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