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1] Jon Grissom
2] Alphy Hoffman
3] Marty Weiss
another 3 as yet named

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Here comes another
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Off the top of my head , I know he named Jon Grissom on live TV before he filed the complaint.
Corey has previously said that it was a whole pedophile ring operating , so I am thinking that he named a lot of names in that statement to police.
Another former child actor has just accused Charlie Sheen with the act of carnal knowledge upon Corey Haim when he was 14 years old. Sheen was 19 at the time I think. I need to look up names. I'm wondering if Corey is somehow behind it. He carries a huge weight about Haim who was his best friend, and he has said that this was what messed him up the rest of his life.
I'll be back when I get some more info.

editted to add a tweet from' andjustice4MJ'

"The Pandora's box has opened for pedophilia, sexual harassment and rape in Hollywood. Every time they mention MJ, they are DEFLECTING from the real criminals."

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LAPD no longer investigating as they say the case is out of statute.
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If you've been following the recent news with all of the Hollywood elite that are being accused with sexual misconduct lately, you would no doubt have seen Corey Feldman speaking out, and naming names before, during and now especially after the Harvey Weinstien / Kevin Spacey revelations.
But what I really noticed from this article was that although Feldman made known to the Santa Barbera police the names of his abusers, he goes on to say that they weren't interested in those people and were only wanting to get him to name Michael Jackson as an abuser at the time. He says that MJ never abused him.
I really hope this all comes out across the media in a hugh wake up to people  for the media lynching / witch hunt that it was.
Feldman says that they turned the tape off when he started naming other names that had raped him, and only taped the conversations about Michael Jackson.

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Feldman had been telling various media outlets that he reported the names of the sexual offenders back in 1993 with the Santa Barbara Police Department, but they claim they have no record of that happening. The tapes have since leaked, which find Feldman talking about friend Michael Jackson, who Corey is adamant never molested him. The names of Feldman's actual abusers are not on these tapes. Corey claims the police stopped the tapes, because they were only concerned about taking Michael Jackson down. The Santa Barbara police department issued this statement.

"We are aware of the statements that Mr. Feldman is making regarding an investigation in 1993. Our records do not indicate that he named any suspects."
I hope that heads will roll and that Feldman and his family will be safe as it would indeed appear suspicious if something happened to him while this whole exposure of pedophilia in the entertainment industry is seeing the light of day.
Here is the link to the story.
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Quincy Jones / Re: Quincy Jones says music legend faked his death
« on: April 30, 2018, 07:28:44 AM »
I've been wondering about Quincy's mental health of late with the stuff he came out with about Brando a letter box and other famous people.
While it would be amazing if this story was true or credible, I think Q's not a well man.

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The O2 Press Conference / Re: Double or Michael Jackson?
« on: April 30, 2018, 06:51:51 AM »
Some things to consider.......
If this was MJ........
So this was supposedly the time that Randy Phillips slapped MJ and screamed at him to make him go the the press conference. One story was that MJ was really drunk or out of it, but Phillips changed that story during the AEG trial saying he was sober, but he did slap and scream at him.
There was also Arnie Klein responding about MJ's different look during this time, saying he was in the process of working on MJ, and hadn't completed the work yet.

So, would a differently styled wig and much darker foundation make up change a person's appearance that much? Add on the information that MJ was probably drunk at the time, and really upset and angry at Phillips for abusing him and then forcing him to do a press conference he didn't want to do, and it may explain some of that strange behaviour during the O2 announcement .

If this was an impersonator.
He seems younger and healthy[er]. The compare said that MJ was totally ripped with muscle when they hugged.
Is that possibly the top of some sort of glove around the wrist in the hand pics from the O2 appearance.
Then there is the behaviour that was off as well as the swaggering walk and even the tonal quality of his speaking voice was different.

So where do my own thoughts lie on this matter? I've been an impersonator believer since this hoax started, with no proof but only that gut instinct from the moment I watched the O2 announcement in real time, that something was way off here.

The only other plausible explanation is that Michael is a swaggering and loud person when he's drunk.   :-[

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XSCAPE / Re: Clues in His Lyrics
« on: April 30, 2018, 06:47:19 AM »
It wasn't as well known because it didn't make the cut for the Invincible album and just went into MJ's vault of unreleased work. [ Though it was leaked online] The Estate cobbled together another album released in 2014 I think that was the year, and named it Xcape with this track being the title track from it.

There are other interesting tracks on that album also. One in particular is 'A Place With No Name". This track has always made me think of Stranger In Moscow where MJ says the line in the lyric -- take my name and just let me be. -- Which is what the Estate has the licence and rights of really. All merchandising and image / name / music ect.....the Estate handles now. They took his name, and are still making a load of money off it, and just let him be.
Anyhow, here's A Place With No Name.

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[youtube]https://youtu.be/YlJvMU-5NyA[/youtube]


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XSCAPE / Clues in His Lyrics
« on: April 30, 2018, 06:46:10 AM »
I thought it would be a good idea to collect clues in this thread that we can find amongst  MJ's body of work.
Whether from interviews, lyrics or his  life, this is a good place to collect them.
I'm starting off with his song 'Xcape'

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[youtube]https://youtu.be/DJ1R8sy50lw[/youtube]



The title track of Michael Jackson's posthumous Xscape album, this was gleaned from the 2001 sessions for the King of Pop's Invincible album. The song was written by the singer with Rodney Jerkins, who produced a portion of the LP. It is the only tune on the record to have been modernised by the man who wrote it in the first place.
The track starts with a brief skit, where someone (presumably Michael) has 'xscaped' from a prison. Jackson then proceeds to touch on his favorite topics of freedom and individuality.

"Why is it I can't do whatever I want to when it's my personal life and I don't live for you?
"I got to get away, so I can free my mind."

Michael is reacting to the barrage of media criticism he was getting at the time. He was stating its his personal life and he can do what he wants.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Clues in Michael Jackson's Halloween
« on: April 30, 2018, 06:38:13 AM »
I've also seen some videos on you-tube about it as well, but I still haven't seen it yet. I don't think it aired down under.
I did hear that it had a massive audience tune in for it in the States.

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The Child Molestation Accusations & Trial / It's Over. Get a job wade!
« on: December 20, 2017, 04:16:00 AM »
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9:12 pm
By Andrew Dalton

LOS ANGELES — A judge on Tuesday dismissed the lawsuit brought by a choreographer who alleged Michael Jackson molested him as a child, resolving one of the last major claims against the late singer’s holdings.

Judge Mitchell L. Beckloff’s summary judgment ruling against the now-35-year-old Wade Robson found that the two Jackson-owned corporations, which were the remaining defendants in the case, were not liable for Robson’s exposure to Jackson. He did not rule on the credibility of Robson’s allegations themselves.

Robson’s attorney, Vince Finaldi, said he strongly disagrees and plans to appeal.

Robson, a native of Australia who has worked with Britney Spears and NSYNC, met Jackson when he was 5 years old.

He testified in Jackson’s defense at the singer’s 2005 criminal trial, saying he had spent the night at Jackson’s Neverland Ranch more than 20 times and usually slept in Jackson’s room, but Jackson never molested him. Jackson was acquitted in that trial.

Then in 2013 about four years after the singer’s death, Robson sued the Jackson estate for what his attorneys described as molestation that spanned a seven-year period.

A court ruled in 2015 that Robson had filed his lawsuit too late to get any of Jackson’s estate. That left two remaining defendants, both corporate entities owned by Jackson in his lifetime: MJJ Productions, Inc., and MJJ Ventures, Inc.

The judge ruled Tuesday that those two corporate defendants could not be held responsible for Robson’s exposure to Jackson, the way a school or the Boy Scouts can be found liable for bringing together an abusive adult and a child victim.

Finaldi said the reasoning sets a dangerous precedent.

“What the judge is saying is that you if own a corporation or a company, you can hire people, use these people to facilitate your sexual abuse, use them to facilitate victims,” Finaldi told The Associated Press by phone. “So long as you’re the sole owner of that corporation, the corporation can’t be held liable.”

Jackson estate attorney Howard Weitzman said in a statement that he “believes the court made the correct decision in dismissing Wade Robson’s claim against it. “In my opinion Mr. Robson’s allegations, made 20 plus years after they supposedly occurred and years after Mr. Robson testified twice under oath — including in front of a jury — that Michael Jackson had never done anything wrong to him was always about the money rather than a search for the truth.”

Finaldi replied that the Jackson camp’s interest in the truth was “hollow.”

“If someone’s trying to search for the truth, why not let the lawsuit proceed?” Finaldi said. “Why not exonerate him and let a jury decide.”

During the criminal trial, Robson bristled at testimony by other witnesses that they had seen Jackson molest him.

“I’m telling you nothing happened,” Robson testified at the time when a prosecutor challenged him.

Another Robson attorney said when his lawsuit was filed that stress and sexual trauma led Robson to finally accept that he had been molested by Jackson.

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Others / Re: Cassandra Gretchen-Sims is back
« on: January 20, 2018, 08:58:30 PM »
And those cheap, ill fitting clothes and shoes. Who in their right minds thinks this is MJ?

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Others / Re: Cassandra Gretchen-Sims is back
« on: December 30, 2017, 04:39:30 AM »
Troll season again. Do these people have no family to spend the holidays with?

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Others / Re: Cassandra Gretchen-Sims is back
« on: December 25, 2017, 06:28:30 PM »
I remember her.   ::)
Must say my reaction is skepticism. But on the positive side, she has put a time limit to her 'big news' of 4 days, so it must be close to announcement time.
Can you post what she comes up/ out with here in this thread?

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This new book looks like it will expose the truth behind how and why the media wanted to ruin MJ.
I am definitely going to get this and give it a read.

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The confidential files of Michael Jackson by Damian Iwueke
Posted on November 15, 2016
Nearly eight years after his death, this new book by Damian Iwueke released in October 2016 and titled The Confidential Files of Michael Jackson offers a nuanced portrait of Michael Jackson the late King of Pop. The book analyzed Jackson’s brutal encounter with the media and makes the case that Jackson was misinterpreted, humiliated and reduced to been a paedophile by the media so that they could sell newspapers.

The book highlighted how Rupert Murdoch owner of many British tabloids and mainstream newspapers through the work of one of his editors at the time, Rebekah Brooks benefited from the lies his tabloids printed about Michael Jackson when the singer was alive and upon his death.The book also detailed how tabloids survive on blackmail and extortion. British and American tabloids such as the defunct News of the World, Sun on Sunday, The Sun, The Mirror, The People, Daily Star and the National Enquirer among others were all savaged in equal manner. Without fear, many other powerful individuals including Michael’s sister LaToya Jackson were also indicted as contributing to the downfall of Michael Jackson.

And with no holds barred, the author pointed out that President Barrack Obama, due to political correctness and out of jealousy, ignored the death and funeral service of a fellow great black man!

The book offers a narrative of Michael Jackson’s friendship with powerful individuals such as the late President Ronald Reagan and his wife Nancy, PresidentBill Clinton and his wife Hilary, Donald Trump, Playboy founder Hugh Hefner, Stephen Alan Wynn-America’s casino mogul, Liza Minelli, Madonna, late Marlon Brando and Elizabeth Taylor among others who ruled Hollywood and Chicago night life in those days, including some of the women Jackson slept with among them, Lisa Marie Presley, daughter of Elvis Presley.

Others mentioned in the book include late Princess Diana, Mohammed Al Fayed, former owner of Harrods, Sir Alex Ferguson former Manager of Manchester United, Silvio Berlusconi former Italian Prime Minister, Nelson Mandela, Gordon Brown, Mick Jagger, Tiger Woods, Mike Tyson, David Beckham, John Terry, Russell Brand, TulisaContostavlos, Max Clifford, Bob Marley, Tupac, late Nigerian charismatic musician FelaAnikulapoKuti and other world celebrities.

The book narrates how Oprah Winfrey was a small town TV presenter until she interviewed Michael Jackson in 1993 after which she shot to prominence. The author claims that Michael Jackson made Oprah what she is today. Martin Bashir who made a damaging documentary about Michael Jackson was not spared either as the author claims that Bashir used Jackson to land a job with ABC news network in America.

Other powerful British and American journalists including the fake British Sheik MazharMahmood who has now been jailed for peddling false news were all mentioned as well as Victor Gutirrez, Diane Sawyer, Diane Dimond, Jane Velez Mitchell and Maureen Orth. The Los Angeles Police Dept, CNN and TMZ –the brash American online web news channel were also criticized in the role they played about Jackson’s life.

The book took a dig at present day wannabe celebrities such as the Kardashians, Paris Hilton, Katie Price aka Jordan the English soft porn model among others to compare that Michael Jackson was the real celebrity and not them! The book claims that at the peak of his career, Michael Jackson’s global popularity surpassed that of the Pope, Coca-Cola and computer.

The book took 5 years to write with some of Jackson’s family members, former staff and associates speaking and revealing to the author a new side of the man whom many of us considered ‘strange’ and ‘mysterious’. Michael Jackson was a man whose life was a ‘thriller’ just like his music; he was also a person who fascinated the public until the very end.

The book is one of the best that has ever been written about Michael Jackson and is considered already as a best seller.

It is also available on amazon,  barnesandnoble.com, abebooks.co.uk, worldbookdepository.com, greatbookprices.com (USA), alibris.com (USA),  New Generation Books(UK) etc. Furthermore, it is available from book retailers and booksellers world wide and on amazon.it for Italian readers.


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