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« on: December 11, 2009, 04:35:27 PM »
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Register or LoginAt 1:13 on the video, Jermaine says, "My brother, the legendary King of Pop, Michael Jackson, passed away on Thursday, June 25, 2009..." I have believed for quite a while that this "statement" is the answer. The part of Michael Jackson that was the "The King of Pop" passed away. The Michael Jackson who is the father of Prince, Paris, and Blanket is still alive.
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« on: December 08, 2009, 01:12:19 PM »
Also, in this video where the coroner spokesperson is talking about the autopsy report, if you forward the video to 6:23 and listen until 6:43, someone is asking him about the time of death, and he says "the time of death will remain what it was in the hospital emergency room pronounced by a physician" I know that it is permissible for the hospital to give this kind of information directly to the coroner's office, according to HIPPA, but if this was true, then why did this same physician not make the official announcement of "death" at the press conference, or at least (as I have seen done in other similar situations) come out and stand with the family member while the family member made the announcement. Jermaine talked about all these emergency room doctors "a team of doctors, including emergency physicians and cardiologists, attempted to resuscitate him for a period of more than one hour", but none of them were available to come out and make the announcement or stand by as a representative of the hospital while he made the announcement? It seems that when the coroner spokesperson talks about the time of "death", he could still be just going from UCLA's press release of the statement by Jermaine, that said the time of death and mentions that a number of physicians were working on MJ in the emergency room. Link to the video: You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: December 08, 2009, 12:57:49 PM »
Im going to go out on a limb and give my opinion as to why Jerkmaine announced the death and NOT an official person (doctor, coroner etc)
It is probably because since its not a real death that the actual doctors or coroner or anyone else that is of any rank did not or simply COULD NOT jeapordize their career's by announcing a death that never happened. Either they werent allowed to by law or they just didnt want to do something so unethical. Know what I mean? They didnt want to risk their credibility as a professional.
I dont know if this is the case or not but it seems this would be the reason. And WHY Jerkmaine? Why not his parents if anyone?
Maybe its because Jerkmaine wanted to steal the spotlight and try to get his face seen by every known human on the planet, which I wouldnt doubt.
But Im guessing its because of my reasons above in bold. I agree with your opinion that this is why Jermaine made the announcement. Because once the announcement was made, and it included the "time of death", then UCLA could put it on its press site and even though the media kept saying the announcement was "from UCLA", the announcement was technically from Jermaine Jackson, who just happened to be at UCLA when HE made the announcement. So to anyone that is reading about it, it looks like the source of the information is UCLA. But legally UCLA did NOT make the announcement, and the way this is worded on their site makes that clear. Notice how this is titled " Statement on the death of Michael Jackson at UCLA Medical Center"By UCLA Newsroom June 25, 2009 The family of Michael Jackson made this brief statement available on June 25 at Ronald Reagan UCLA Medical Center: The legendary King of Pop, Michael Jackson, passed away on Thursday, June 25, 2009, at 2:26 p.m. It is believed he suffered cardiac arrest in his home. However, the cause of his death is unknown until results of the autopsy are known. You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login(And it looks like the video is back up on the official UCLA site today) You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: December 07, 2009, 01:36:25 AM »
Noone confirmed he was admitted to the hospital and I read on MHJD the ucla statement was something like:" It has been reported by the Jackson family that MJ died here on the 25th of June"
They don't want to take any responsibilty.
Why?
Because he is not dead 
If that UCLA statement is a fact then THAT is my 100%er right there!!
I'm a nurse and I know that if a big star died in our care the CONSULTANT caring for that patient and the press officer would do a statement about the death. No WAY would it be phrased like that. I have never heard of anything so dodgy in my life guys.
I'm telling you if thats a fact, HE IS ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!! :shock:
Please go to this link and watch the entire video from the UCLA press site and tell us what you think about the way the official from UCLA presents this entire thing. IMO, he does not even mention "Michael Jackson" or why they are having the press conference. He mentions Jermaine's (Mr. Jackson's) friend Tohme, and Jermaine, but does not refer to "Michael". He says "Okay, ah, good evening, good evening, my name's Amir Dan Rubin, I'm the chief operating officer of the UCLA hospital system. I'd first like to introduce a, uh, personal friend of Mr. Jackson, Dr. Tohme, who will make a brief statement, um, and then, uh, we'd like to bring up Mr. Jermaine (pause) Jackson (to me, this refers back to the first time he said "Mr. Jackson") So, technically, it seems that UCLA is only introducing Tohme and Jermaine. This is the link to the UCLA press site, the original video, but it does not seem to have the video available on this site anymore. Hmm. You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginThis link is the same video on YouTube, they just edited out the "Okay, ah, good evening" You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: December 07, 2009, 01:10:49 AM »
ALso...can someone research the standards for announcing a death. I know and we all know how death announcements are usually made but can someone upload visual documentation of this standard practice of announcing someones death. (Can we see something stating the standard procedure for announcing someones death , even a celebrity?) this document would back us up. This link You are not allowed to view links.
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Register or Loginregarding the California Hospitals Guide to Release of Patient Information to the Media. You should link to this pdf file to read the entire Guide for yourself. Under "General Guidelines" it says that according to HIPPA they can give out information on a patient only if the inquiry specifically contains the patient's name. If this means the inquiry must contain the person's specific legal name, perhaps this is why the hospital itself did not issue a statement, if the inquiry was for someone named "Michael Jackson", or "Michael Joseph Jackson" not named "Michael Joe Jackson". When Jermaine issues the "death" statement, he says "My brother, Michael Jackson, the King of Pop" On page 3 it discusses the "Death of a Patient" - no information may be released unless the inquiry contains the patient's name - with this inquiry, the hospital may respond with a "one-word" description of the condition of the patient - patient's death is not routinely announced by the "hospital" but by the patient's physician or the coroner - "Additional information about a patient's death, including the date, time and cause of death should not be released without written authorization from a legal representative of the deceased. (Was Jermaine or Tohme a "legal" representative?) Again, this information typically comes from a patient's physician, not the hospital." (and not from their brother) Page 5 discusses Celebrities
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