Quote from: "somekindofsign"I consider people planting bombs as terrorists, there´s no other.
It´s just that I had never heard about them on the news to be called so.
Well, they love the word, and they use it for everything.
So now when they talk about FARCS they don´t call it guerrilla or just Las FARCS, but "el grupo terrorista FARCS"!¿?, something new here.
But indeed they are. Also ETA.
ETA is more complicated to annalyze to me because of the closeness, I have loads of information/disinformation to annalyze. I guess it happens in Columbia with FARCS, as I know it happens in Ireland with IRA.
ETA started being a rebel group against Franco. When he died they continnued, so it was less justifiable, to end up being inexplicable. In the middle we had/have GAL (a secret services (CNI) terrorist group within the government), a scandal.
Many people thought that the worst was not GAL existing, but the leaking of its existence... I mean, that some people who think black and white, thought that it was right that the goverment used the same means against that evils, but it should have never been known.
I think that ETA is manipulated by the state, or the real masters and involved with CIA. The creators has repudiated them (as hapenned with the Red Brigades), and now they have people inside that are mercenaries, agents, vasque extremist-left young people, easy to convince people, older people who only knows to live from the extortions... and most of them are unaware that they are a part of Gladio, or whatever the operation is called now.
It´s also the feeding of the government (both of the parties) as it´s a common issue to act their circus in, and people is interested, so they don´t pay attention to other things. And it´s also good to win elections, because they are always ending with the last stand of it. It always seems it´s about to finish, and they arrest more and more (it´s like the battles in Lord Of The Rings... the next has more orcs). I think they arrest people faster that people gets into ETA.
As we laugh of everything, it´s even funny, because ETA new arrested are younger and younger, and one day they´re gonna be babys with a dummy.
Because it´s better laughing...
OMG, Echelon is also following this thread for sure! :lol:
You're right in a lot of point, specially about the vicios circle that forms because those groups consolidate the governments and nobody is really interested in finish things for real. I think the terrorist name started being used with all those lists of terrorist groups, that are good because it is for them that now it is illegal to help those kind of groups.
The farc was created like any other guerrilla by peasants that weren't happy with the government, the problems started when they realised that they could start making money out of it. So they started getting weapons and threatening people that had more more money or land than them so they could start recieving money out of other profits, to "support the cause", but just out of fear.
And that thirst of money and power made them the group that they right now, that doesn't have anything to do with the term guerrilla per se, because they just live out of the money they get of the few kidnappings they can make and the drug traffic, they don't fight for anyone's rights or anything anymore. Even if they can still convince some people, that normally aren't colombian, so they join them and give them more money, saying that they're fighting the goverment and trying to give power to the people, which is completely untrue.
Of course the story is a lot longer than this, because they've been here for more than 40 years already. But I tried to sum it up a little. But between the terms guerrilla and terrorist group, I choose the last one, because they're not guerrilla anymore.
