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« on: February 29, 2012, 06:12:12 AM »
i cannot go to You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login , it looks like it's offline..... WTF?? is going on.....normally when they would do maintenance, i would expect a message
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« on: February 08, 2012, 09:14:22 AM »
im also still here......but more a reader then a writer, nowadays.
But for sure a 100% believer !!!!
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« on: December 31, 2011, 07:32:09 AM »
Wow, dat zou geweldig zijn !  Kan niet wachten op die dag... gelukkig 2012 !
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« on: November 22, 2011, 01:24:18 AM »
Thanks bec...I usually don't feel the need but felt it this time. And I'm with you on the MJ 'waltzing' around town that day lol...as ridiculous as it is, I can totally picture Mike doing it :lol:
As for the vids TS posted...I know that a lot of what is said in the vids was debunked a long time ago. I had mentioned one thing yesterday, though, that they also mention in the vid but I can't make sense of it. Perhaps it, too, was debunked a long time ago and I just never saw the explanation for it. Where is the Starline tour bus situated when the cam guy runs back to his car (in Ben's vid)? Based on the 'fan' vid, the bus should be aligned with the firetruck but I don't see it in Ben's.
If anyone can clear that up for me, I'd greatly appreciate it. It's sorta the final 'lingering' doubt I have as to everything having been filmed in real time on June 25th. An explanation would help remove that doubt.
Thanks.
With L.O.V.E. always.
To answer your question, if you can stop this video at 1:37 or thereabouts, you will see the Star Line bus on the other side of the road from the firetruck. It is not blocking the roadway but it is closer to the firetruck than the other cars parked in front of it on the side of the road. You will see the red sports car on the left of the screen, then some other vehicle behind that, then the white Star Lines bus. The firetruck is on the right side of the screen. (Notice that the firetruck has ORANGE CONES in front of it) It is confusing because the way this video is sequenced, the ILLUSION is that there are other vehicles that drive past after the ambulance leaves, but before the Star Lines bus drives up. It may have all been filmed in real time, but then edited in unreal time 
I think there were TWO different Star Line Tour buses. The FIRST one, starting at 1:41, you see there are NO ORANGE CONES behind the fire truck. And here comes the Star Line Tour bus, and at 2:01 the man in the blue uniform comes from the front of the firetruck toward the back, where the Star Line bus is, and this man removes an ORANGE CONE from the firetruck and then removes another ORANGE CONE as he talks to people on the Star Lines bus and walks over to put the orange cones on the ground behind the fire truck. The video ends here.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxkjpnLhQJ4&feature=related[/youtube]
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We assume that the Star Lines Tour bus in this next video is the same bus, but I don't think so. Look at what is ALREADY behind the firetruck when this Tour bus drives up. Three ORANGE CONES.
And you see that this second Star Lines bus pulls over AFTER the ambulance and the SUV's leave the house, to let other cars pass by.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUxX0fEQU5Q&feature=related[/youtube]
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(Here is a link to another version of this above same video, if you don't trust the TMZ-branded version
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Looking at the first video again, at the very beginning, you see the ORANGE CONES. Why would they be there at the beginning of the video, then disappear when the Star Lines Tour bus shows up? So yes, it is obvious that for some reason they spliced the end of this sequence onto the beginning. It is also obvious that there were TWO different tour buses. But only one ambulance.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxkjpnLhQJ4&feature=related[/youtube]
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I see in one vid one cone (very hard to see)....and in the other vids, i see more cones....strange....
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« on: November 17, 2011, 03:51:52 AM »
maybe we can make a topic on this forum which contains only actual factual timelines. i don´t think that exists yet because i could not find it. In this topic we can for example point out the time of when the 911 call was made, when the ambulances arrived, when they arrived at the hospital, when the helicopter flew away to the coroners office, when the airport was closed. Maybe that helps us ... just a thought
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« on: November 17, 2011, 03:30:37 AM »
a bit longer version from the ambulance leaving Carolwood....maybe we missed something there...
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=QCcqEPQzV90[/youtube]
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« on: November 15, 2011, 09:19:18 AM »
oh and also....with four people carrying him to the helicopter (and you see it was not easy, even with four adult men),
i think the two men in the Van, which have moved "him" to the other side of the Van, would have serious backpain if the body was real.... I mean, they bent over and then lifting a body ... that must he backbreaking lol
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« on: November 15, 2011, 04:41:01 AM »
I think that in the helicopter the person on the bed was the change from MJ to Dummy. Right in front of our eyes . There is such a big difference in the size of the body and the "thing" that left the helicopter, it has to be a dummy. I have no explanation yet abt where and how the dummy could get away without involving 2 many people. But i do believe that after the Van left the helicopter platform, the helicopter went to LAX (is it possible to trace that ?). From where MJ took a plane to freedom. What i also find interesting, is that only after 1,5 day, MJ's stuff is being taken away out of the Carolwood house. I mean...so soon already, with the investigation going on ... Maybe i posted this in the wrong location, apologies for that, im not posting often
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« on: October 03, 2011, 04:54:54 PM »
omgggggg what a vid ...thank you so much  the question is now....when did ucla get rid off there old stretchers....before or after 2009 .....
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« on: July 28, 2010, 05:58:59 PM »
A new vid is online ! please watch it... You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: June 25, 2010, 03:59:10 AM »
Thank you...needed that.
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« on: June 24, 2010, 01:26:33 AM »
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« on: June 23, 2010, 02:59:33 PM »
Susiecat and budgirl from You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Loginare initiating a great new project for stopping the media bias and clearing Michael's name. It's called the MJJ Justice Project 2010 Campaign Let's all get involved by spreading the word. You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: June 10, 2010, 05:51:15 AM »
that clapping.... could be :?: ... 2 bad the person is standing too far...
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« on: May 03, 2010, 07:22:09 AM »
when i looked... i saw it was all just make.believe
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