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The O2 Press Conference / Colour choice/symbolism at O2?
« on: May 20, 2011, 10:06:59 PM »
Forgive me if this is a double post, I searched and found nothing. I logged in just to post this.

I was looking at pictures on my wall of MJ at the O2 conference and all you see is red (curtain) and black (his clothes). I thought oh, that's his favourite colours, red and black (so I've heard). Then I started wondering if the colours symbolise anything; red could be blood, and black could be death. The colours seem so striking, but is there any meaning behind it or just purely coincidence?

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Dr. Conrad Murray / Re: Conrad Murray - Who is Lindsay Lohan
« on: April 16, 2011, 01:13:01 AM »
Wtf? He gets confused about what's happening with Lindsay (that she stole a necklace) not WHO Lindsay actually IS. At what point does he say "Who is Lindsay Lohan" ?  :? All he asks is "what's happening with her?"

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Um the pic of CM looks like Michael's Billie Jean walk. But I mean, the photo was taken in a split second, we can't see the whole walk, and can't anyone look like that when they walk?

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I found this article and don't know if it has any relevance.

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What raised my eyebrows (literally lol) was the mention of 3 women (sounds like MJ's father/brothers), the mention of Las Vegas strip clubs (MJ performed at strip clubs as a child) and lastly the mention of Murray buying one of the women a plane ticket (reminded me of Jermanie's hospital/airport slip-up).

Does anyone have any thoughts?

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Michael's Reasons to hoax his death / Re: Michael Isnt coming back
« on: February 26, 2011, 08:35:52 PM »
Quote from: "MJ062509"
Did anyone pay attention to the ending of This Is It? Michael said and I quote "We have 4 years to get it right" why say 4 years? The TII Tour would not have lasted 4 years. 4 years from 2009 will be 2013, does Michael know something about the Government that we don't? He COULD be returning in 2013......

I watched TII again last night and I also heard him say it other times I watched it.  Did he say "we have 4 years" or "we've *had* 4 years" to get it right? Either way I always wondered what he meant because he only supposedly started rehearsing in 2009.

I think I mentioned before what I just don't get is if it was meant to be concerts only, why are they interviewing everyone (dancers, band)? Has MJ filmed behind the scenes footage of his other tours and interviewed people? And if they decided to do interviews to make the movie more interesting or whatever, after his "death" then why are they all talking in present tense, happy and excited?  A lot of times I thought they were just acting as if it was natural, much like the Jackson Family Dynasty series; made to look spontaneous but really scripted.  And why would MJ have himself as a voice-over talking about how he loves trees, etc. if it was only meant to be concerts? Not that I mind hearing him talk, obviously...it just seemed odd. =

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Dave Dave / Re: Dave Dave came back!
« on: February 26, 2011, 02:34:41 AM »
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
Look at daves trousers - his hips look exaclty like MJ's hips! Compare with O2 Mike...


Wow you're right, never noticed that. I did notice the leather jacket though...coincidence much?  What's with his mirror image photos as well? Or is it hinting at a double?

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Dr. Conrad Murray / Re: Alleged phone number
« on: February 25, 2011, 09:22:46 AM »
Quote from: "TinkerbellLovesMJ"
Anyone can set up a phone number with an answering machine or even have someone answer. Joey Skaggs did that with his hoax The Final Curtain. He even had an assistant answer the phones. To me, this phone number doesn't prove anything about Dr. Murray. It could all be faked very easily.

This is an old thread so I apologise but browsing through it I couldn't help but notice you mention The Final Curtain.  I don't know if anyone picked up on it.  I googled Joey Skaggs and in Wikipedia it mentioned The Final Curtain:

"The Final Curtain (2000): Skaggs' creation was a combined funeral company, virtual graveyard and theme park. It was meant to satirize showmanship in places like Forest Lawn cemeteries. Some investors were actually interested. Final Curtain's website is still functioning."

Interesting ...

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Dr. Conrad Murray / Re: The problem with Murray
« on: February 25, 2011, 04:51:59 AM »
Quote from: "MJsDangerousGirl"
Quote from: "tabloidburn"
what if murray's role in all this is to do just that: create confusion by constantly debunking his own statements? if he and his lawyers are good enough, he'll get off the case by creating so much 'reasonable doubt' (again: hung jury!), that he cannot be convicted. that would be one more proof to show that the legal system builds cases out of no or false evidence. like when michael was 'legally lynched'. this is turning the tables, and michael swings it, i believe.  :mrgreen:

I understand what you're saying...and forgive b/c i am in a constant state of confusion and what ifs,...

Even though MJ was tormented w/ both trials~! (first he was assumed guilty b/c he "paid off" his accusers, even though his attorney's told him to avoid what happened in the 2nd trial)
Yes, we all agree it nearly killed MJ and deeply hurt his spirit....BUT he was found not guilty, and that's what the public knows.  And we ALL know the justice system in the US doesn't always work as it should, legal loopholes, circumstantial evidence putting ppl on death row, etc.  So, I don't really see what the point would be of the CM legal battle being a major part of the hoax.  oy...i'm so messed up in the head with all these facts.
And while i check this forum often, i don't catch everything but in writing this, i just realized that:
CM = Conrad Murray
CM = Child Molestation

I'm sure it's been brought up before, but wow... interesting. Might have to reconsider everything i just said ;-)

Hmm now you brought that up, the first name also starts with "Con"...

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I'm now stuck somewhere in the middle. It wasn't until a few people replied to this thread saying they believe it's a double that I even considered looking into it. The front audience members being set up was as far as I'd gotten.  Now I'm looking at other photos of what's meant to be MJ in the past few years before his "death", and I'm looking more carefully.  

Actually the one video I instantly thought was a double, before even considering the possibility of the O2 guy being one, was this video: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

Maybe I'm imagining things, but his eyes look like really different, almost like they're missing his usual eyeliner underneath.  Also his behaviour from about 6:07 in the clip reminds me of the O2 speech somewhat, maybe he was high? I don't know...also when he walks into audience from about 6:51, would MJ normally do that?  :?

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I heard they're playing the trial on TV.  Could they not broadcast a fake trial?

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The Memorial / Re: Will You Be There
« on: February 24, 2011, 11:08:55 PM »
With a different lyric? Displayed on the huge screen? That just happened to be played right then? If it was to be played at a memorial you would use the normal song everyone knows. Let's say he really did pass away. Do you think he'd like the family playing around with his recordings, changing the version that's to be played at the memorial, just because they want to?  Why would they decide to change it anyway? For no reason at all someone just speaks up and says "hey let's use this version and not the album version"? Makes no sense at all to me... :?:

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The Memorial / Re: Will You Be There
« on: February 24, 2011, 09:19:41 PM »
Old thread I know...but I was looking for one mentioning this. I watched WYBT again and someone else said it sounded live, and listening to it again it does sound like it. It's funny because the whole speaking part is made to sound exactly like the album version, but with the word "pains" thrown in instead. When would MJ have recorded one with a different word? And why? He had the the whole song written in his book Dancing the Dream, and the word was "pain."

And if it was live, how could he have made it sound exactly like the album version? Is it just his genius ability, or was it made to *sound* live, like the album version but with a different word? It's also interesting how they would feel the need to display the lyrics of the spoken part up on the screen while he says it; just in case people missed it?

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In thinking about if the O2 guy was a double or not, I got wondering about the lines on his left palm.  If someone has a better shot of the O2 guy's left palm please put it up for comparison.  The only one I could find is: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

I then found 3 pics of the real Michael's left palm:

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Let me know your opinions!  :P

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The O2 Press Conference / Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences
« on: February 24, 2011, 08:36:36 PM »
@ mumof3 I started laughing when he showed his face to the camera, they looked like real fans but then it just looked like a joke  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  maybe a set-up?

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Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Quote from: "EyeHeartMJ"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
EyeheartMJ thank you for posting this thread. You should definately become a psychologist, I am a psychologist. This Michael in 02 is not the real Michael. He has a different voice, and also different mannerism. If you want to learn what gestures mean look at the real Michael and check it out. Blessings.

Oh it's cool that we have a psychologist on the site  :) and yeah I don't know what to make of it now, haven't really considered it being an impersonator but if it is then it must be a damn good take-off...perhaps the real Michael taught him exactly how to act...but how could you explain the voice he had? Only when he said "Thank you all" his voice went deeper than normal. But otherwise it was MJ's voice? I mean, he couldn't have mimed it that well could he?  :?


Quote from: "Lovely One"
Thank you EyeHeartMJ!!
I am the one who wrote the "Speech in a whole new light" and was pleased to see that
you followed up with a new thread and some great body language explanations!!!!

Great analysis!!  I really believe that Michael said a mouthful without really saying much. I also believe that the hoax started on that day... The day of the 02 conference!

Maybe our threads could be combined?? That would be cool!

Yeah that would be awesome! Yeah I was thinking the timing of the conference was just too close to his "death" and I think others have said he did it that way so it would not be a shock to anyone, as in, it's more convincing as people would think "oh, it's all the pressure and physical activity that caused his cardiac arrest, no wonder..." and if there were doubles in TII it also adds up. Instead of just out of the blue he has a cardiac arrest. Because also if it was out of the blue, people would be suspicious as to why Conrad Murray just happened to be with him.  Whereas it's more believable if he's got upcoming "concerts", of course he'd want a doctor with him to keep him healthy etc.

@ curls Ok good to know the event was genuine.  Maybe it was the front people who were actors, I do still think they seemed a bit fake.

Also I just meant the tone of the English guy's voice sounded like he was dissing him, I know he meant that he was so close, but just his voice sounded really mean. Maybe I took it the wrong way  :lol:


Not at the begining. If you close your eyes, and listen to him starting his speech that is not michael's voice. totally different. Than his voice started to be like Michael's than it went deeper. This man is not Michael. Just try it dear, and let me know.

I was talking about the host guy sounding mean but apparently he wasn't so never mind...  :lol:

But yeah I heard MJ's voice go deep when he said "Thank you all" but I thought his voice was actually deep anyway?

I think his jumping around & chanting "This is it" maybe he was either high or pretending to be high, to create the confusion and get people talking/wondering...also when he "died" people would look back and say "well he did act differently so it's no wonder he passed, if he was taking drugs..." so it would be more convincing...ahh I don't know  :roll:

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