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Invincible / Re: heaven can wait
« on: October 25, 2011, 07:46:10 PM »
Yes but I'm french and it's difficult in English, but you can do better on ther other songs. Do you know there is no work upon all moonwalker (i think) or all the albums (i believe) I'm afraid because it's takes too time and it'sn't efficient in English. thank you bisou

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Invincible / Re: heaven can wait
« on: October 25, 2011, 10:43:48 AM »





Unthinkable
Me sitting up in the clouds and you are all alone
The time might come around when you’d be moving on
I’d turn it all around and try to get back down to my baby girl
Can’t stand to see nobody kissing, touching her
Couldn’t take nobody loving you the way we were
What good would Heaven be
If the angels come for me I’d tell them no





Polyptych of the Last Judgement Rogier van der Weyden Beaune


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This song is very appreciate for all believers. Michael Jackson who was widely described as an angel seems to takes place with them in the clouds". Angel is god's messenger, if he is open on invisible, he represents the immaterial voice. He appears to some selected or keys humans or messiah.
Angel is represented on many religions



[justify][justify]"Me sitting up in the clouds", the singers (Probably Michael) seems to be with Angels
 "if the angels took me from this earth/ I would tell them bring me back to her",(...) and he shouts "and try to get back down to my baby girl/ Can’t stand to see nobody kissing, touching her"after the ascent there is a descent "back to her", "and try to get back down to my baby". That's for her's love that he wants to come back.
He feels sensibily "touching her..."not yet an Angel, maybe he is between Angel and human. Michael always wanted to transcends all the barriers (borders). Angel figures this transcendence. I can say that he isn't an Angel because he seems to feels feelings too much sophisticated for an Angel. He feels gravity with this love, the girl on earth. Heaven can wait because he has something to do, and he says no, to the Angel not to god: "The world could not go on so every night I pray/ If the Lord should come for me before I wake". I don't know where he is relative to God, but he prays in his sleep or dream god. His sleep is a metaphor to an Angel. But the death doesn't appear clearly here, the point is that he doesn't explain clearly if it concernes death. Here it's only life his first preoccupation[/justify][/justify]

"Unthinkable", Unbreakable, Invincible
I think it's a key word: Unbreakable "you can't believe it, you can't conceive it/ And you can't touch me, 'cause I'm Untouchable",
heartbreaker,"And I can't believe that I can't telll her no"/"That girl I can't take her"
Invincible "I could be more than you could ever dream"
Break of Dawn "Have you ever wanted to dream about those places you've never known"
Compare to Heaven Can Wait there is a deep consistency between themes. I stop here because it's take to place " the sky is" not "our limit".

"Unthinkable", "Incredible" he still "remains the same"(unbreakable)
"I' m still around" (unbreakable),"I was the man that got away"(heartbreaker), "I'd turn it all around"(heaven can wait),
Unthinkable to be separated from his love, but also because he mades something incredible, he says no to the Angel. The Paradise can wait
All the album INVINCIBLE deals with this a change, but he's the same. He seems to wander but he knows what's going on.
"Me sitting up in the clouds"(heaven can wait), "walk away and pass me by"(butterflies), "I'm far away"(speechless), "how low you go" (2000 watts), "it was cloudly before now it's so clear", I was lost in a world of stranger"( you are my life), michael's footsteps in the street, "won't just let me be"(privacy), "don't walk away", " when there's nothingleft to do but walk away",( don't walk away), "somebody shakes when the wind blows"", you can touch the sky","when you sit there addressing, counting your blessings/ biding(?) your time" (the lost chidren), "He gives another smile, tries to understand her side"( whatever happens),

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I know it's impossible to read, but I had try to figure out some connections between musics. The lyrics are very important, here there is a hesitation's movement. He wanders, and seems to break free on the unthinkable, the unexplained. For me it's more clear that Michael deals in everysingle upon the disappear. How many times he uses "bury", or metaphorical uses of the disappearing behind the visible  limit.

"The time might come around when you'd be moving on"time=movement he wants to create a space with "dance", loving "thoughts"...beyond the non-unthinkinkable.

Sorry if I'mn't clear, and my English
I hope you can help me for clarifying the lyrics full of poetry

Thank you, I try to do better next time












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Leaked & Unreleased Tracks / Re: Xscape and OZ episode 6 season 1
« on: October 24, 2011, 08:17:25 PM »
Other videos with prisoners

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And for escaping

[youtube]oNy1Gs1fRfo[/youtube]

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The Movie Theory / RIO (film) and MJ air
« on: October 24, 2011, 08:03:50 PM »
Hello

I want to deal between Michael and Rio connection
First I put a wikilink to "introduce you to the monster":
[wiki]en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio[/wiki]

In a part of the movie, the main character Blu had to learn to fly. In book we can see a bird in a drawing. Like the perfect man draw by Leonardo da Vinci, beside this there is the word believe surrounded. He is checking characteristics of bird as a plane, and adds THIS IS IT (min 10 and 40s). "Lets fly" on the runway
 
When blu and Jeel (other bird) get caught, they are playing death. There is death hoax, that doesn't work.

Blu isn't only the colour of the sky, but also a colour of depth and dreams. The color of travel to death from ancient egyptians.
I don't want suggest that Blu is another avatar of Michael, or a bluman, no more  that a Doodoo who one of his main characteristic is that he can't fly. But It's very funny
Thank you



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Leaked & Unreleased Tracks / Re: Xscape and OZ episode 6 season 1
« on: October 24, 2011, 02:06:58 PM »
The previous links

[youtube]NjyM7yFPLMQ[/youtube]

[youtube]W5TNyOJFhRk[/youtube]

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Leaked & Unreleased Tracks / Re: Xscape and OZ episode 6 season 1
« on: October 24, 2011, 12:55:12 PM »
Hello,
I want to share the relevance or finality, in his art. But I can't prove if he's alive. For me, he's.
Demerol is also present in MORPHINE.
Thank you for your comments.

"Everywhere I turn, no matter where I look
 The systems in control, it's all ran by the book
 I've got to get away so I can clear my mind,
 Xscape is what I need,
 Away from electric eyes
 
 No matter where I am, I see my face around
 They then ask on my name, and push from town to town
 Don't have a place to run, but there's no need to hide,
 I've got to, find a place,
 So I won't hide away
 
 Xscape, got to get away from a system lose in the world today
 Xscape, the pressure that I face from relationships that's gone away
 Xscape, the man with the pen that writes the lies that hassle this man
 Xscape, I do what I wanna cause I gotta face nobody but me
 
 Sometimes I feel like
 I've gotta get away
 
 I tried to share my life with someone I could love
 But games and money is all she ever thought of
 How could that be my fault when she gambled and lost?
 I'm tired of silly games,
 It's time to make a change
 
 Why is it I can't do whatever I want to?
 Went in my personal life and I don't live for you
 So don't you try to tell me what is right for me
 You be concerned about you,
 I can do what I want to
 
 Xscape,got to get away from a system lose in the world today
 Xscape, the pressure that I face from relationships that's gone away
 
 Xscape, the man with the pen that writes the lies that hassle this man
 Xscape, I do what I wanna cause I gotta face nobody but me
 
 Xscape,got to get away from a system lose in the world today
 Xscape, the pressure that I face from relationships that's gone away
 Xscape,the man with the pen that writes the lies that hassle this
 man
 Xscape, I do what I wanna cause I gotta face nobody but me
 
 When I go, this problem world won't bother me no more
 
 Xscape
 Xscape
 Xscape
 Xscape
 
 Xscape, got to get away from a system lose in the world today
 Xscape, the pressure that I face from relationships that's gone away
 Xscape, the man with the pen that writes the lies that hassle this man
 Xscape, I do what I wanna cause I gotta face nobody but me
 
 Xscape, got to get away from a system lose in the world today
 Xscape, the pressure that I face from relationships that's gone away
 Xscape, the man with the pen that writes the lies that hassle this man
 Xscape, I do what I wanna cause I gotta face nobody but me
 
 Xscape, got to get away
 Xscape, the pressure that I face
 Xscape, the man with the pen
 Xscape, I do what I wanna cause I gotta face nobody but me
 Xscape,
 Got to get away
 Xscape,
 The pressure that I face
 Xscape,
 The man with the pen
 Xscape,
 I do what I wanna
 I do what I wanna cause I gotta face nobody but me
 
 Xscape"

The beginning is missing. In the lyrics"It's all ran by the book" make me think about the Bible or the law system, but i don't really understand this. Is it a reference to "the man with the pen that writes the lies that hassle this man". It make me think about PRIVACY "you btry to get me to lose the man I really am" " I need my privacy,/ So paparazzi, get away from me" and " one of my friends had to die" and in TABLOID JUNKIE "But with your pen you torture men
 You'd crucify the Lord"or "Shoot to kill/ To blame him if you will/ If he dies sympathize/ Such false witnesses..." is very interesting to compare to XSCAPE lyrics.

"Everywhere I turn, no matter where I look" is a feeling of ubiquity from media. In INVINCIBLE in UNBREAKABLE the rap verse is quite interesting"Disappearing acts, strictly nines and macs/ Killers be serial, Copperfield material/ My dreams is vivid, work hard to live it/ Any place I visit, I got land there/ How can players stand there and say I sound like them
 HELLO?!"
And in THREATENED "It's me I'm everywhere/ In one blink I'll disappear" and "Be two place at the same time". The monster is present in the first to the last songs of this album. Disappear is the best "use" to be ubiquity. Monster is made by the media but also by michael in art.
I post a link where My Who Is It explains the relation between THREATENED and Rod Serling rap with the episode from the TWILIGHT ZONE
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It's very fascinating, I hope you are enjoyed to see theses episodes.

XSCAPE is a song from the internet in 2002, direclty after INVINCIBLE album but there is also WHAT MORE CAN I GIVE which his released had failed because of Sony or Michael.

"I've got to get away so I can clear my mind", all this song is a strong affirmation of his independant mind. Far from bad influences. Do you know MagicalXscapism on you tube. I can't found his old video, but he (or she) mades a great work on disappering act on Michael. Since his childhood he talks about the escapism in art. He wants to break free, not only for him. Xscape is a strong rejecting of our society. Prison's metaporical figure deals with his feelings of injustice and fatality inside our lifestyles. If he is looking for more independance far from prejudge, he is also isolated, and on his own.
"Why is it I can't do whatever I want to?
 Went in my personal life and I don't live for you
 So don't you try to tell me what is right for me
 You be concerned about you,
 I can do what I want to"

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The fatality, the fate inside OZ is present in XSCAPE "got to get away from a system loose in the world today" remember of the fate in oz and prisonners which are from the same family.

"Sometimes I feel like
 I've gotta get away" This part is singing by a beautifull girl's voice. It made me think about a dream for the prionner. Maybe a voice from a free land, or an ideal zone.
In DESTINY song there is a link with this song
"In this world there's much confusion
And I've tasted the city life and it's not for me
Now I do dream of distant places
Where I don't know, but it's destiny


Bridge
If it's the rich life, I don't want it
Happiness ain't always material things


Chorus
I want destiny
It's the place for me
Give me the simple life
I'm getting away from here
Let me be free, let me be me


2nd Verse
I'm a man that's for all seasons
What the city offers me ain't naturally
I look to greet the stars
But there's no stars to see
Gonna search this world until I find my destiny"

This song is also used in OPIS NONE where Michael shouts 'i want destiny" "far from here". Notice that he talks about destiny not fatality. OPIS NONE more than the word game in the title with opus zéro, it's a song symbiotic between old and new. It's a material work with a "tohu bohu" of songs. It's a song from Katherine, and it can be describe as a prenatal works, a fetus full of his detiny. THe song is a storm of songs, melted and his extract. We are in the matrix, origine and end.

Michael transsubstantiation for hide himself...out of our fatality, near detiny
He transforms himself into a song. In Xscape, it's a moment where he transforms himself, he conforts himself into him. The material to something other material or not. XSCAPE haven't released on a cd support. Like other works in the same period. Only ONE MORE CHANCE, which we can qualify to second chance for his judgement, on cinema...   
I'mnot very clear, because it's difficult. I like analogy, sorry if i made you confused. I don't know if I'm, but I like this transsubstantation into a palm, a diamond to a star, a car, a glove...Here the world seems to be a jail. The words are use as if they recovering him to prison. It so impressive and aggresive

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Leaked & Unreleased Tracks / Xscape and OZ episode 6 season 1
« on: October 23, 2011, 03:26:52 PM »
Hello,


Xscape is a song with a jail song, which musical piece escapes on internet in 2002.
There is a lot of connections with the episode of oz, not only the reference of "the wizard of oz".
At first we have 2 old men. One is trying to escape, he believes in god and he is a little illuminate. The other is a sick man, who have escaped from his body and soul with alzheimer. Twice are men who have no place in the prison, they are in prison's hospital. An other is going to the dentist who gives him drugs. He had eat his parents (yes this is weird, but possible) and he thinks to sell his teeths.
All this episode deals with escaping, travel, dreams, and re-creation somewhere else. Drugs has the first role.
When Beecher, a character sings, disguised in travestite, he takes drugs.
So what, you can tell me
there is just after the scene a song from Xscape which is repeat 2 times. This song is the same in Xscape. It's a phrase, but sorry i don't understand. The grids open in the same time from the music to the episode. But it isn't the same song. Maybe it's a traditionnal song in jail.

After, there is a new character he is very famous because he plays basketball. His name is Jackson  Vayhue. Jackson, Jackson ... repeat prisonners after him, and his influencal figure which is devalued (the same for the second old men, a tragic exemple for his family who can't escape from fatality)

They are taking drugs demerol and one other the same for michael.
At the end Kareem, who believes in god and his personnal "accointance" with him has a cardiac arrest in his bed. End of episode with morality take care of your body and soul

can you see it

thank you

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Quote
Hello, Thank you for have done this wonderful job. I have another idea concerning the videoclip Hold my hand:
Part 1
At the end, when a man supposed to be michael cross the star on walk of fame, it can mean something like i'm going to make movies. In fact when i see the palm, i think of leaves and stars (moonwalker) but also it's a "cliché"of Hollywood and island.
The hangar, looks like a hall of cinema for make movies. But it's also like a huge tomb. Inside, it's a cross, or a tunnel hidden from something, waiting life lyrics "Cause when it gets dark and when it gets cold we'll hold each other 'till we see the sunlight", "so tell me what we're waiting for


PART 2
bubbles isn't only the monkey's name, but it can be a poetical figure inside the video clip. We can see balloons  look like bubbles, it reminds me about the michael's album covert.
Bubbles are symbolics in many way, from the fragility of life, to breath, and live like in a dream.
In bouddhism if one who looks the world like we see a bubble of air, his capacity is to no longer see death's kingdom. Another sutra says that life's phenomenons can be compared to a dream.
It reminds me also of a famous Byron's poem, sorry i forgot the name, but it deals with the evanescence and vanity of life, with bubbles. The lyrics in hold my hand "this life don't last forever..."express this.
Maybe i go too far but the tears, the waves of sea, the puddle of water at the end. Balloons or bubbles can mean that like michael says "sky is your limit". The transparency of elements liquid, air, where bubbles permits to coexist: "Were better'off being together
The symbole of color blue, which is the more deep color but also represents transparency of naturals elements, make a link with diamonds and stars. Edgar Allan Poe express the stars and the tears, flowers, life and death, transparence ... in many poems (like "la dormeuse", "a dream inside a dream", annabell lee)
Sorry for my english, i'm french
i guess it will interest you. Thank you

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Français / Re: Canal+ - soiree MJ & NRJ hit list
« on: January 29, 2011, 05:12:34 PM »
Quote from: "Cameron"
Bonjour j'ai trouvé un mlien sur youtube de musicls1 qui a posté  le docu de canal+.
Ce documentaire ne prend pas au sérieux le hoax, mais il fait  un portrait naif et touchants des believers.
[youtube:1u6ms04v]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYytfEFNGiA[/youtube:1u6ms04v]

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Other Hoaxes / Re: PAUL MCCARTNEY IS NOT PAUL !!
« on: January 17, 2011, 02:36:46 PM »
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Hello i have found an interesting documentary on paul's death hoax
[youtube:16874kjd]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-TP6Jc5qNw[/youtube:16874kjd]

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