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« on: July 03, 2010, 04:22:06 PM »
by DancingTheDream » Sat Jul 03, 2010 6:55 pm
Zen wrote:Wow is all I can say! TOHME shadowed Mike and would not let
him out of his sight within a foot!
Michael was SCARED of TOHME! He did not fake it, what he faked
was trying his best to still connect with his fans in SPITE of TOHME!
There WAS witnesses to TOHME's behavior with MIKE. They cannot
hide everything.
Jermaine Jackson sees a FORTUNE in NEVERLAND, a never-ending
supply of income for estate/family if he can get Michael buried there.
HOW long was this plan? The family even contacts Prisilla Presley
for ADVICE. IT will come to pass.
It's ALL right in front of you. YOU ask where was TOHME?
He SPLIT LA and went to NEW YORK, where you can plainly see
him viewing "THE BOOK" in either July or early August 09. That is
as long as painting on display.
I am starting to question people agenda on these forums.
Why are you questioning our agendas?? My agenda is to find the truth and not close my mind to any possibilities. What is YOUR agenda if you are against free speech and bouncing ideas and theories? So .. he was in NY. Where is he now?
Free speech, I am for! DancingTheDream, why do some people try to
shut up others and keep the truth from coming out?
Did you not hear some of this before June 25th, 09?
With many extended family in California around LA area things are heard
and things are said. Do you think they say anything NOW? Too close
to the home turf. The Jackson brothers have not always behaved as
"nicely" as they do now that Michael is "passed". Sometime yes, sometime
no. The sisters have always been polite.
Michael DID try to fire Tohme, but he could not shake him.
Michael is a nice guy, and if you say LOVE, that could describe him too,
but those around him were not of this caliber.
This is ok, I will be leaving soon back to western USA, and I am sorry
my posts are infrequent and sound outburst, it is limited time on a
shared computer. My brain and heart is sore, I feel I have defended
to worry about Michael for years and years now but they get what they
wanted.
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« on: July 03, 2010, 01:29:12 PM »
Wow is all I can say! TOHME shadowed Mike and would not let
him out of his sight within a foot!
Michael was SCARED of TOHME! He did not fake it, what he faked
was trying his best to still connect with his fans in SPITE of TOHME!
There WAS witnesses to TOHME's behavior with MIKE. They cannot
hide everything.
Jermaine Jackson sees a FORTUNE in NEVERLAND, a never-ending
supply of income for estate/family if he can get Michael buried there.
HOW long was this plan? The family even contacts Prisilla Presley
for ADVICE. IT will come to pass.
It's ALL right in front of you. YOU ask where was TOHME?
He SPLIT LA and went to NEW YORK, where you can plainly see
him viewing "THE BOOK" in either July or early August 09. That is
as long as painting on display.
I am starting to question people agenda on these forums.
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« on: July 03, 2010, 02:18:17 AM »
August 3, 2009, 4:00 pm
In Michael Jackson Painting, He Wore Red Velvet
By Jennifer 8. Lee “The Book,” painted in 1990 by Brett-Livingstone Strong.
The owners have received calls from as far away as Dubai after Mr. Jackson’s death from people who knew they owned the painting. “Up to this point we’ve been very skittish,” Mr. Abrams said. They have reached out to Phillips De Pury auction house to get an assessment. “I am not an art expert. I don’t understand the art market,” he said. “We have no idea what it’s worth. Is it worth $1 million? Is it worth $10 million?”
Currently, the painting is being displayed at the Dancy-Power Automotive at Lenox Avenue and West 129th in Harlem, chosen in part because it is owned by a friend of Mr. Abrams and also because it is near the Apollo Theater, where the Jackson 5 won an amateur night competition in 1967.
It hasn’t drawn huge crowds, Mr. Abrams said, in part because “we don’t put a big sign in the window, ‘Michael Jackson Painting Here.’”
The painting briefly hung at Automotive place in Harlem after "death" and see bold. It doesn't draw big crowds because they don't really advertise.
So WHY was Tohme in New York during this time period? Just to
view painting?
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« on: July 02, 2010, 10:52:05 PM »
Klein would know, but the pee in a cup story still leaves that
rather senseless?
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« on: July 02, 2010, 10:41:45 PM »
by luchy » Sat Jul 03, 2010 12:52 am
In 2003, Mike has shown in the documentary "Living With Michael Jackson", by journalist Martin Bashir, who had to send to a shrine Bubbles because he had become aggressive. he was afraid to hurt the children
You are correct and Mike was correct to place the chimp. Adult chimps
can get aggressive and captivity goes again their nature at breeding
age. Can you remember story of the chimp that tore the lady face
off?
Bubble was taken at young age, practically rescued, but did not deserve
to be deserted without monetary help because chimpanzees live
a long life. Michael was only family he had attached to.
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« on: July 02, 2010, 10:34:47 PM »
by DancingTheDream » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:11 pm
hope wrote:
paula-c wrote:hope, is what I want to know , what happened to Michael?
I know. I hate to think about it too, but we cant even be sure he is even safe right now. People need to really start looking at the big boys like Sony, Branca, etc. I dont like seeing what Katherine is going through right now. I feel he is alive, but may not be in control of things right now. :?
Yes.. we need to stop being distracted by diversions.. Karen Faye, Dave Dave, LaToyh. Tito, etc.. these are all distractions and are not helping us.
In order to uncover what has happened we need to focus on the main players like Sony, Branca, Mottollo, DiLeo, Murray, Sony, AEG, Neverland... the key is to FOLLOW THE MONEY.
Once we know WHY this has happened.. then we can find out WHAT happened.. then hopefully discover where he is....
Yes, we must get past the detractors and the greed. I am not all about
following the message of LOVE with a price tag. Any price tags and it
not legite, should be done from the HEART.
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« on: July 02, 2010, 06:45:08 PM »
If Michael Jackson did not provide some type of trust or funding when
he gave up Bubbles, my respect just dropped a notch. Sorry!
I would hope that being the case or the Estate or family is helping
with the care. I will contact this sanctuary and find out!
IF the sanctuary really do need funds for support, that speak for itself,
but if they too are using Bubbles to solicit funds, that need to be made
public.
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« on: July 02, 2010, 04:17:13 AM »
by rag doll » Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:46 am
Gema wrote:Jeez, people talking in the year 2010 about being gay as something to gossip about :lol: unbelievable.
True - homophobe babbitt´s entertainment. That issue shouldn´t be potentially scandalous at all these days. :roll:
I think we need to let him have love in his life,
regardless of what gender the recipient is.
Amen!
Good posts!
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« on: July 02, 2010, 04:13:39 AM »
Tito just came out and said Michael had more sex with woman than him
Well Tito, how big you want your next PAINTbrush? :roll:
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« on: June 30, 2010, 12:18:08 AM »
Tohme name was on credits in TII! :twisted:
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« on: June 30, 2010, 12:08:47 AM »
by bec » Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:41 am I'm with you Zen. Jermaine smirking on Larry King and the two of them enjoying a smug little moment was enough for me. I believe in my gut that he is alive and this is a hoax but I cried my eyes out at work on the bathroom floor Friday afternoon because I was reliving what happened a year ago when I really believed he was dead... and this Jermaine has the balls to get up in front of a camera and giggle about it like it's a big JOKE. I'm tired. I want some straight answers. They could have killed this hoax a long time ago. I feel like I am being sported and manipulated. All they have to say is please stop, Michael is dead, there is no hoax, please move on and let him go... but they don't. Why? Either the whole family are sociopaths with no conscience, no empathy, and no sense of right and wrong, or they are perpetuating it for a higher purpose. Larry King is fully aware of the hoax theories, they're all over his blog, yet he lets Jermaine slide with that stupid ass comment as if he's playing along. Why would he do that? I guess I fail to see the harm in asking the hard questions I just don't think there is a venue available for us (collective) to do that. Bec, I hope you are feeling better since last Friday. Michael's legacy of LOVE is feeling like one of despair and hurt perpetuated in part by lack of truths. The family well Jermaine and certain others are seeming soulless. Having attended a few funerals, I have NEVER seen one like they portray on FILM. Unless they are waiting for one special hand- crafted statue, I have never known of anyone with the means to wait a year to carve an epitaph into stone. What type of family sells all items to highest bidder? Not furniture, but personal items and his artistic drawings! You think the little girl would not want these? Why she have posters of her dad, she should have his original ART-framed and I hope she do. Larry King and Jermaine together I cannot stomach, but I cannot stomach them on individuals either. Jermaine grinning with slurpee wearing the J5 shirt two day after Michael died or passed was dubbed low then. Not being one who is in awe of celebrities AT ALL, I don't find it too unusual to think to ask them hard questions and when they all interviewed on tv, the interviewers just listen to their script and go  . While we are going  :?: "they had to do it that way", just WHAT do that mean by that.
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« on: June 29, 2010, 09:24:12 PM »
I have tried to see Mike at 02, and just cannot. What is it?
It seem his face is a solid mask without normal contours or wrinkles,
it look fake with a HUGE chin with very indented cleft which is not
surgery, because he doesn't look that way later.
THAT is what I view, when I see 02. Cannot say for sure it was
NOT Michael but he either have plenty of botox, fillers, or something
to make the entire face UNNATURAL looking.
His VOICE is different, like he STRAIN to sound more like Michael,
of course not to mention Mannerisms.
Some cosmetic dentists advertise you can look like your favorite
star. They mean with teeth.
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« on: June 29, 2010, 09:06:24 PM »
That should read "gay people in the African American community".
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« on: June 29, 2010, 09:04:44 PM »
Adam Lambert is also gay and he sells out his concert tour and
loved by millions.
I think Ian may be saying that people in the African American community
don't feel that sense of acceptance.
I had also wondered if Ian was interested in Michael some other
level.
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« on: June 29, 2010, 08:57:42 PM »
Nefari, I understand and thank you.
"X" at the LA TIMES advised to look through old microfilche for the
dates in question. "X" did not have a Wylie Draper listed in LA TIMES.
I give the complete name of Wylie Hughes Draper, Jr.
@Christiana, I find that VERY odd. Just like the two Michael J.
Jacksons listed.
I am of the feeling that not too many of the people really care to draw
the curtain back completely?
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