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« on: June 01, 2010, 09:30:50 PM »
Hello;
I'm imabeliever2. I'm currently a quiet member and don't post, but I see you guys were a little stuck on this and I couldn't resist giving a little hand to supply a picture of John McClain. I know from my own experience that finding his pic. is like find a needle in a haystack.
This is the music executive, John McClain
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« on: March 05, 2010, 11:28:06 AM »
The media has no business in their personal affairs. The media isn't concerned about Michael's children, they're just looking for good gossip, just as they did with Michael. We need to put a stop to this and stop feeding into it. Just imagine, how would any of us feel if it was us instead of the Jacksons. Having someone in your home that you trust, spying on every single thing going on in your home for the media. Whether Michael has faked his death or died....his children and family have gone through enough, so why send them through more unnecessary turmoil.
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« on: March 05, 2010, 10:39:51 AM »
has the wonderland property in las vegas been sold? I read that a "Fan" bought the wonderland property in Vegas.
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« on: March 05, 2010, 10:35:24 AM »
Here goes the media again! Where are these videos coming from. It just seems to me that the media is being influenced by someone to try and paint Katherine Jackson as an un-fit grandmother, who's not capable to raise Michael's children. If the person releasing these videos/stories of child abuse/neglect to the public/Children and Family Services is in the Encino home, they should be removed and fired immediately. True, children will do silly things, but thats all a part of growing up. This is being blown way out of proportion.
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« on: March 01, 2010, 07:00:11 PM »
Hello Everyone;
Thanks for keeping the prayer for Michael going. It’s a blessing to now have members joining (wilds) in weekly prayers as well. Our next monthly group prayer is scheduled for Sunday March 7th at 7:00p.m. (your-time).
We will continue the same prayer as before. Also, remember to lift each other up by name before God. The prayer is listed above and on page 2 of this thread.
Voiceforthesilent / Iusedtodream
Mollyosheamj / Mj5starchick
Lavdhim / Soundsofcrescendo
Mirandacnc / Mjj4ever777
Kingofmystery / Wilds
Liteeyez22 / Itsall4luv
Imabeliever2 / Deedee75
Jill / mollyfaithxo
Liberiangirlheehee / Soldieroflove
Mjsfan4ever / Infinatetrinity
Doreanbird / Rowdyangel
Lovelidae / Lizziebee
Loricstone / Loveratheart4mj
Mjssoulmate/ teedybear
Mjsgirl89 / Mumof3
Simply - {MJ}/Jam
teedybear inspired us with these words last month as well as the video of Michael, please keep this in mind as you begin your pray requests for Michael.
"Join your hearts and prayers together
as one and I will hear you.
Ask for healing, abundance, joy, health,
and equity on this planet.
Never underestimate the power of your intent.
Never think that I do not hear you praying
in the silence. When enough souls join to make
the same requests, your lives will change.
I have heard you across the miles and
through the eons. I love you." . . .
A Message from Heaven
[youtube:1756pt41]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHjVGyzobgI&feature=player_embedded#[/youtube:1756pt41]
anyone else wanting to join in is more than welcome! just copy the prayer and join us on Sunday, March 7th at 7:00p.m. (your time)
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« on: February 26, 2010, 09:13:40 AM »
I read on another thread last night that in the contract MJ was only required to be on stage for a small amount of time for each show. I am sure he was planning to use doubles on the tour. One of the impersonators from Romania said he was contracted to be on the This Is It Tour in London, and was planning to leave the day he heard the news of MJ's demise. There are so many doubles out there I have wondered if they plan on using them to make people believe he is back.
This is just something I have considered. I am not saying this is something I firmly believe. I know it sounds out there but so is the whole hoax conception if you think about it.
What about the other Jacksons? Do you think a double would fool his children? Do you think they would go along with such a thing?
Ok, I'm trying very hard not to post so much, but Its hard to bypass these threads. I thought about the very same thing. There are so many MJ doubles and as we discovered yesterday, with some, you can't tell the difference. My question is, whats up with all the doubles? Are they trying to trick us for a purpose? As I posted in another thread about a month ago, I've gotten to the point that that I've seen so many Michael Jackson's that I can't remember what he looks like anymore. And you're right, this "death hoax" is really a strange situation. And yes, they could posible send a MJ imposter back claiming to be MJ and we truthfully would never know the difference. Only his immediate family would be able to by recognized birth marks.
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« on: February 26, 2010, 08:44:17 AM »
The events of June 25, 2009 lured current fans, lost fans and non-fans to be re-introduced to MJ. Tribute magazines, newspapers and books kicked off the stampede. MJ cd's were flying off of the shelves along with other MJ memorablia. Reputable stores, vendors and even bootleggers got in on the action. Current and lost fans anxiously awaited the TII movie, new/old TII single and the TII dvd. Consider the projects coming from the rest of the Jackson family and the money engine continues to churn. Lots of Mj and Jackson related activites are pending for this year alone: Concert tour, release of new music, tribute shows, fan conventions, more episodes of the reality show etc. AEG is an enormously powerful event planning organization. They could likely get first bid on major international MJ related events especially if given the go-ahead from SONY and the Jackson Estate. AEG has quite a lot to gain. If AEG paid murray to take 2 to 4 yrs in jail 4 it, no murray would not rat them out
Exactly and so does Sony as well as Tommy Mottola. And 4 years in jail to be financially set for life would be worth it all. I just hope that Murray won't be able to handle the pressure and breaks!
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« on: February 25, 2010, 04:01:24 PM »
on the TINI website, there are some pictures that they took with mj on days of his rehearsals. in all the pictures he has curly hair and the clothes he is wearing, except for one (orange pants guy) doesnt match any of the clothes we saw in TII. . . . maybe u can post a link or something? I want to see those pics!
here's the link. you have to scroll right down
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Alright guys........sorry to change the subject, but missy_missy wanted us to see the pics. on this link, which I did. However, as I strolled further down the page I saw where fans were speaking on his health. Did anyone else see this, they're saying that the frail little man in the orange pants is really Michael and that he had lost even more weight than is shown there. They're saying they watched him whither to a skeleton and did nothing more that sent letters to him asking him to stay healthy? Maybe this has already been discussed, but this is the first that I've seen of it. They've started a petition which is listed there, I didn't go to it as I was too anxious to get back here and share what I saw. Let me calm down a bit......ok, what they're saying is Michael was the man in the orange pants, Dr Klein was giving Michael strong drugs, security guards went from 3 to 12, and everyone turned their heads to avoid looking at his condition, his voice was weak and on and on....Please read, scroll down, its underneath the pictures of the orange pants guy. Please let me know what you think. You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: February 25, 2010, 01:41:52 PM »
I'm sorry, but I really don't understand how people can not see the differences between the different "Mikes" in This Is It, and I'm not talking about stuntmen. You only have to look to see the differences - ears, chins, lengths...just name it. Is it because they don't WANT to see the differences? I really don't get it...
As one of those who feels that TII is all Michael and no doubles, then I have to say "No", it isn't because I don't want to see it. I just DON'T see it. Period. Personal opinion is what it comes down to.
hi rowdy, i was with you - as you could see from previous threads, but on this thread i did a bit of research and you can see he used doubles and stunt doubles you will also note comments from KO about mike have alot of available double just in case he got tired, it is with a lot of regret that i have come to the conclusion that it is true.
i am not trying to convince you though - just sharing.
the thing is that these doubles look pretty convincing -
i admit i do feel cheated.
Looking at how he used doubles and how the crowd never noticed because they were so excited, he could have easily done 50 concerts and just performed only minutes himself.
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« on: February 25, 2010, 01:37:00 PM »
The film has been cleverly edited to make it very difficult to spot the differences. I believe, however, that these differences are there. I believe this also, thats why it's all choppy with so many cut scenes and pratically no close ups.
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« on: February 25, 2010, 01:27:36 PM »
i suppose i stand alone here, i am being honest though - an not knocking anyone or mj
but i do feel a little cheated now that i have come to accept that he heavily used doubles in his work
i hope this will pass. :| Lol.....I was thinking the same thing! Also, see how well he slipped out of sight behind stage for the double to come in and take his place.....so he knows the art of disappearing very well for a double to take his place.....hmmm, Sly Michael! Seeing that reinforced my hoax belief even more.
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« on: February 24, 2010, 06:51:24 PM »
Those are strands of his hair that is going down his jacket and the curl end comes back up
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« on: February 24, 2010, 06:40:06 PM »
If Michael is dead, or not, these would be the reason.
Everyone afraid to talk about Tohme, :twisted: but apparently they were not
involved closely with the MJ story before his death.
Please see my post under "Michael Jackson is an Institution" for the
beginnings.
Michael did NOT want to do the 02 announcement and Tohme either plied
with drugs or got a double.
I want to know IF Michael had either dirt or scrape on hand at 02?
He never let Michael out of his sight in London. Follow pictures and see Tohme.
Sorry folks to be dismal about this, but if you were following Michael BEFORE
death, you will know what I mean. :geek: When I saw Tohme Tohme at Jermaine's side as he was making the announcement at the hospital on June 25th, the first thought that came to me was that he was there to try and confirm that MJ was dead. Maybe I'm just too suspicious of him.
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« on: February 24, 2010, 05:43:14 PM »
guys i dont know the answers, i was just google searching to be helpful
i think i am very naive and that i am one of the pp who get fooled some of the time
the credits - legal reasons
but that is not what has been said by the promoters
have they been less than transparent? I agree on you with the fact that I do not know all the answers either and I won't pretend to. But thats what we're here doing together, trying to find the answers. I realize that we all have different theories, but the way to find out the truth is to first question each other as to why we believe as we do in order to come to any conclusion.
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« on: February 24, 2010, 05:28:08 PM »
There listed as ''Stunts'' that's Why
So you're saying although we believe this whole thing is a hoax, they would put the body doubles (names) in the credits and still try and fool us into believing they were all Michael or use them as stunt men??? I just think that would be giving way to much information for a hoax. The other videos/performances where the stunt/lookalikes were used was not for the purpose of a hoax, so it was no problem to list their names. I'm not saying that you're wrong, but it doesn't add up. I know for a fact that extras used do not have their names listed under the credits, but yet some are paid for the work they've done. If the part was big enough. If these men were not in the credits........I'm sure with the money they would have gotten paid for this....names on credits would not have mattered. From what I understand credits are used as evidence of work as an actor/actress and is usually transferred to an actor's resume if they are not well known.
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