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« on: May 17, 2011, 04:40:03 AM »
The FBI or any other Gov intelligence will not go after their own. They are part of NWO. However key players outside and in, have a purpose to uncover the people in Michael's life that meant him harm, that work for members of the elite. Once in the courtoom it will become appearent who these people are and they will ultimately tell on themselves because they have not been prepared all along for Michael to do what he has done. They now think he is gone, so they will show their true colors, as where they would not to his face or to the public while he was here.
We will then see just how deep the rabbit hole goes. Most of the people on the surface don't know who they work for, they are just the puppets, paid well for what they do. It most likely is a sting of a whole different kind.
God Be with US. We know he is, and the only one that can fix this mess. It is all out of our control.
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« on: May 01, 2011, 08:15:10 PM »
I think what TS wants is that we can assemble a complete theory and find the answers to several questions we had about the death of Michael I have to admit i didn't finish reading everything, God it's a LOT. I got dizzy and tired trying to understand the leaves already :lol: and then gave up because i've noticed everything is going round circles and ...i dont see the point. It's not like we have the correct answers at the end of the quiz to see who's the winner at least.
TS, why don't you tell us what you think. You start topics and throw directions and then you dissapear. I mean there are so many important topics just left behind, too bad with so many brilliant minds...You choose what you think it's important and then let members argue with no final conclusions. What is this? And is your information authorized , do you know the answers or are they just opinions? If you know the answers and you are afraid you might not be believed without reasonable argument , why don't you try us? You are respected here by everyone so i doubt anyone would trash you, i mean we would be all understanding if you couldn't back up your info with evidence. Just tell us the info. You sure want us to find it if you invest so much work in guiding us.
But if you're just like one of us trying to find the correct answers using your intelligence, i find it appropriate to mention that loud. Because that changes everything! Because If a legit source tells me: "ok, i know more than you but i don't tell you because you wouldn't believe me anyway so here is how we do it, i will guide you where to look", i would dig and dig and dig. Sure maybe at some point ,if he doesn't just mess with my head, he tells me ok stop right there, you got it, you are right, that is correct. That is what i knew and couldn't tell you. Now you know it for sure.. But if that source is not legit, maybe i wouldn't dig and dig and dig something just because he may find it important, because the path may be false and because i wouldn't know when and if i find the correct answer anyway.
Hoping for an answer if you find the questions relevant. Thank you.
Let’s just say that TS came in and sat down and gave us the whole scoop from start to finish. What do you think the first thing that would happen would be? I will tell you, there are many people that view this website that never comment that would come out of the wood work with their different ideas and viewpoints, and want TS to give some kind of proof that what he is saying is right. THEN we would be right back at square one having to go thru this whole scenario anyway. Right now we are only working with the events of 6/25/09. There are multiple layer to the events of that day. So if we can’t think for ourselves and give our own solid ideas now, how will we do this when the opposition comes in and wants proof for what we believe? THAT is why TS doesn’t just lay it all out there nice and neat and pretty. And don’t think for a second when we have to analyze what our government is doing to us, that they will sit down and give us all the answers either. They will certainly continue as they have been, to hide the truth. The truth about NASA’s findings, the truth about the failure of the New Madrid Fault in the US. The truth about to soon to collapse US dollar. We have to dig to find truth, and this is our test run in a safe invironment. Fact is, we better become very good at uncovering truth, because some very diabolical things are and will continue to happen at the hands of our governments. Charlie Sheen and many other Hollywood celebrities are getting ready this summer to bring to us a similar “Think for yourself” presentation about the inside job in the US on 9/11. Look how they have been trying to discredit Charlie so that no one will hear him.
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« on: May 01, 2011, 03:04:59 PM »
Ms. Katherine depresses me all the time.....
I just saw that recent interview and she says her son is gone forever and Murray should pay and she was very upset.
I don't think it is possible she doesn't know about the hoax.
Maybe Michael is dead because I can't understand how comes Ms. Katherine speakes like that I believe if your childs life was in danger, and you knew that the only way to convience the people that need to believe Michael is dead, in order to uncover the corruption behind the people who wanted him dead, That you would do and say what ever necessary to the public to sound as conviencing as possible and put some very conviencing tears to go with it, because I am sure she is sad about what her son has had to deal with, and that he can't be openly with his family. I cry for my children over much less things. A mother will go to any extent for her child. And Katherine being Jehova's Witness has nothing to do with what she would say. Abramham in the bible lied to the Pharos of Eqypt on two different occations to save his own life. I hope that you will be able to come to some solid belief one way or the other, before this trial starts, because this will not be easy unless you do or for anyone who is not solid in their belief. It will be hard enough for the hard core believers, but we know what the enemy is capable of and we know what Michael is capable of, so I pray that you find peace and resovle soon. My prayers are with you!
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« on: April 16, 2011, 09:47:13 PM »
My Two Cents Worth.
First the goal is to have as few people involved as possible. No body, would require a lot more people than having a body.
Second, someone on life support would be a very plyable option. The reason life support seems reasonable is because the first reports said Michael was in a coma, with no brain activity. This would be the case with someone on life support. They usually are brain dead due to deep coma. The patient could be kept alive as long as necessary on life support.
Third, it is certainly possible that a family loved Michael so dearly as to offer to do this, being there was
a family member that was terminally ill. Michael did have people that loved him to such extent. Look at the Casios, it could have just as well been one of their family members staged to look simular to Michael that was dying.
God Bless Us All
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« on: April 15, 2011, 01:33:45 PM »
This is a great theory, but I'm thinking about the end of the hoax, and I just CANNOT see Michael explaining it by, "I used a REAL dead person to hoax my own death". I can't see how the world would view him and his hoax and return then. If he was ever viewed as wacko this would surely blow the world up.
I know you'll all totally disagree, but a REAL dead person and Michael Jackson? They'll say he did it for all the money he made and used a real dead man to do it.
Sorry, it may be correct, but, I think he's in for real public backlash if he did that and it comes out. And it will have to be explained not only for us believers, but really for the non believers to believe it's really him.
(I know I'll hear it on this, but sorry....)
Well if we all believe the FBI cooperation with Michael, we shouldn't worry about the explanation part of the hoax when it ends because I do not believe that Michael will pop up and try to explain everything by himself. I do believe that it will be a formal one and the FBI is definitely going to be there and instead of Michael, they will be the ones who is going to explain the details of the hoax. And if a dead body was used, I do believe that it was FBI's idea to keep as few people as possible in on the hoax. So I do not believe it would be a problem for Michael after he comes back when they explain the details of the hoax like a dead body was used etc.
I still go with a dead body was used theory. It doesn't sound sick or impossible to me. And no need to be a magic that FBI did. It's not too hard to find someone died close to that hour and they might have used it to keep as few people as possible on the hoax. Michael didn't need to plan every each of the details, FBI was helping him out about it too. So it could be FBI's choice to use a dead body. And as I wrote before, just a couple of key people in everywhere like the coroner, the hospital etc would be enough to pull the hoax.
Thank you PureLove….I really HATE the word hoax because people always get a picture of a joke or deception. This is a life saving mission for Michael and the world or the people that will listen. I know that what Michael is going to bring to us when we hear him again will be so horrific that no one in their right mind will care about it being appropriate to use a dead body, how and who at that point. We will be so thankfull to God and Michael and that he cared enough all these years to allow God to give him this plan.We will only care about what we can do to save our lives and the lives of those we love. I have already seen VERY UGLY things going on in this country, and what the Gov is hiding from us that is life threatening and the means they will go to in covering up what they don’t want known. That is why we are here now, to learn what and how he did this, so that we will be beyond that when he speaks to us again. My biggest concern right now, it that from the view points that I read here, there will be so many that will NOT BELIEVE it is Michael when he returns, they will take up close video shots and try to dissect it with various software and spend so much time trying to disprove it is Michael that they will NEVER hear his message. This will be very sad.
So my personal opinion is that while I don’t know who or what was in the ambulance just yet, I know what was NOT. And unless Brian Oxman had total leave of his sense on 6/25 and was completely not thinking or speaking clearly and just totally fumbling all over the place, which I doubt, I know that Michael was NOT IN the ambulance on that day. Because Brian said and I quote, “ I got a call uhh just a little bit BEFORE NOON that Michael had been taken FROM the hospital by Randy’s assistant who gave me that call” I have included the link below with the vid. If you look at him while he is talking , there are no signs of grief and is almost as if he is working very hard to keep from smiling, however the rest of the statement goes on as if all else is as most believe of Michael being gone. Here again we have a play on words, done on purpose to show how deeply deception can be interwoven with just a tad of the truth to twist things totally around and make us believe what they want us to. Just like Jermaine Airport and Hospital. You don’t have that many people with that many slipups on words.
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For the non believing it is a perfect scapegoat to say it was a slip and he got the time and wording confused. As for the use of a dead body being wrong of Michael and totally out of the scope. That is child’s play compared to what goes on in this world. I am certain if we believe Michael has a skilled team working with him, they are to ones who devised the details of a body, fake, alive, or ill. It is not for us to judge if it is appropriate or not. Why Michael would have been at the hospital earlier that morning would be sheer speculation on anyone’s part and unnecessary. He had his reasons for whatever he did, some of which we may never know.
If we are to investigate this in reality, we have to climb out of our little politically correct powder puff boxed in way of thinking and look at the reality of what takes place in this world daily. PURE UGLY is what is in front of us, deception from satan. This is what Michael is trying to get us to see.
Thanks Victoria... It seems those of us leaning toward the dead body theory take this FBI involvement very seriously beyond just Hoax. This is life & death. The FBI IS involved.
But I'm wondering if maybe the EMT's were NOT in on it during Live Action Day...
Or just one was; one undercover? This = "Creditable Deniability" & no Perjury. They simply did their jobs even though the body looked like it had been dead for over an hour, and they didn't recognize who they were working on. They had suspicions, they noted weird things. :? Does it matter? Do your job; don't question the doctor, circumstances or identity of the person. That's not your business. Perhaps it took so long because someone got to them (FBI) to sign documents forbidding them to disclose what went down that day. :?:
TS:
...so far nobody has offered any strong support for ALL of the paramedics being in on it; and if any of them were not in on it, there would almost certainly need to be a real corpse. Please don’t dismiss this possibility too quickly; it would explain the warm room, the paramedics not recognizing MJ, he looked like a frail old man, etc—and it would also decrease the amount of people that would need to be in on it (both at the house, and at the hospital).If someone can bring at least two strong points against the corpse theory, and nobody can debunk either of the two: fine. And if not, then we need to be open to considering all possibilities—that is what good investigation is all about.
I believe Michael’s involvement with the FBI, are with certain one who were of Divine connection, meaning God brought them together. Nothing in this life happens randomly. Everything has already happened, we are just living it out now, hence Michael’s always saying the music was already written, God was just giving it to him now. Because FBI is the Federal Gov and corruption lies at the heart of it, just like CIA, KBG,NASA,NOAA and any other Gov acronym. There has to be certain ones that have Michael’s best interest and heart, and know of the corruption with their own agency. Like I have mentioned before, I believe some could be retired officers with knowledge of how to work the system and know who is at the stem of the deceit in the agency. Like retired NASA officers that have been trying to warn us of thing for several years not, and people laugh them off. Not so for too much longer. Remember there are so many layers to this and the plan has been in the works for years. There are thing this and other world Govs have been hiding from the public while busying themselves to prepare to save their own hides. There are people in Hollywood in the know, they didn’t just make some of these movies to entertain us, they were to make us think. Only problem is Man will not be able to save himself, we know what that is going to take.
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« on: April 15, 2011, 08:20:58 AM »
This is a great theory, but I'm thinking about the end of the hoax, and I just CANNOT see Michael explaining it by, "I used a REAL dead person to hoax my own death". I can't see how the world would view him and his hoax and return then. If he was ever viewed as wacko this would surely blow the world up.
I know you'll all totally disagree, but a REAL dead person and Michael Jackson? They'll say he did it for all the money he made and used a real dead man to do it.
Sorry, it may be correct, but, I think he's in for real public backlash if he did that and it comes out. And it will have to be explained not only for us believers, but really for the non believers to believe it's really him.
(I know I'll hear it on this, but sorry....)
Well if we all believe the FBI cooperation with Michael, we shouldn't worry about the explanation part of the hoax when it ends because I do not believe that Michael will pop up and try to explain everything by himself. I do believe that it will be a formal one and the FBI is definitely going to be there and instead of Michael, they will be the ones who is going to explain the details of the hoax. And if a dead body was used, I do believe that it was FBI's idea to keep as few people as possible in on the hoax. So I do not believe it would be a problem for Michael after he comes back when they explain the details of the hoax like a dead body was used etc.
I still go with a dead body was used theory. It doesn't sound sick or impossible to me. And no need to be a magic that FBI did. It's not too hard to find someone died close to that hour and they might have used it to keep as few people as possible on the hoax. Michael didn't need to plan every each of the details, FBI was helping him out about it too. So it could be FBI's choice to use a dead body. And as I wrote before, just a couple of key people in everywhere like the coroner, the hospital etc would be enough to pull the hoax.
Thank you PureLove….I really HATE the word hoax because people always get a picture of a joke or deception. This is a life saving mission for Michael and the world or the people that will listen. I know that what Michael is going to bring to us when we hear him again will be so horrific that no one in their right mind will care about it being appropriate to use a dead body, how and who at that point. We will be so thankfull to God and Michael and that he cared enough all these years to allow God to give him this plan.We will only care about what we can do to save our lives and the lives of those we love. I have already seen VERY UGLY things going on in this country, and what the Gov is hiding from us that is life threatening and the means they will go to in covering up what they don’t want known. That is why we are here now, to learn what and how he did this, so that we will be beyond that when he speaks to us again. My biggest concern right now, it that from the view points that I read here, there will be so many that will NOT BELIEVE it is Michael when he returns, they will take up close video shots and try to dissect it with various software and spend so much time trying to disprove it is Michael that they will NEVER hear his message. This will be very sad. So my personal opinion is that while I don’t know who or what was in the ambulance just yet, I know what was NOT. And unless Brian Oxman had total leave of his sense on 6/25 and was completely not thinking or speaking clearly and just totally fumbling all over the place, which I doubt, I know that Michael was NOT IN the ambulance on that day. Because Brian said and I quote, “ I got a call uhh just a little bit BEFORE NOON that Michael had been taken FROM the hospital by Randy’s assistant who gave me that call” I have included the link below with the vid. If you look at him while he is talking , there are no signs of grief and is almost as if he is working very hard to keep from smiling, however the rest of the statement goes on as if all else is as most believe of Michael being gone. Here again we have a play on words, done on purpose to show how deeply deception can be interwoven with just a tad of the truth to twist things totally around and make us believe what they want us to. Just like Jermaine Airport and Hospital. You don’t have that many people with that many slipups on words. You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginFor the non believing it is a perfect scapegoat to say it was a slip and he got the time and wording confused. As for the use of a dead body being wrong of Michael and totally out of the scope. That is child’s play compared to what goes on in this world. I am certain if we believe Michael has a skilled team working with him, they are to ones who devised the details of a body, fake, alive, or ill. It is not for us to judge if it is appropriate or not. Why Michael would have been at the hospital earlier that morning would be sheer speculation on anyone’s part and unnecessary. He had his reasons for whatever he did, some of which we may never know. If we are to investigate this in reality, we have to climb out of our little politically correct powder puff boxed in way of thinking and look at the reality of what takes place in this world daily. PURE UGLY is what is in front of us, deception from satan. This is what Michael is trying to get us to see.
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« on: April 02, 2011, 12:45:25 PM »
Paris' Birthday is tomorrow..Happy Bithday sweet Beautiful Girl!!
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« on: March 26, 2011, 10:07:25 PM »
2good2betrue I think you make a good point. You are right, I think.
Your drawing is so funny :lol: :lol: :lol: . especially the MJ representation :lol:
But I give you an A for the effort !!
@TS, we're missing you always.
I warned you the I was a lousy artist, but I guess you get my drift.....  there is no way a relection of a parked car would show up in the reflection. The only reason they have photoshopped it into the image, is to hide something inside the ambulance, and that something must be the real empty stretcher, and I always wondered where someone so tall and huge like Conrad Murray was sitting  ? His legs should have shown up to....That day, for show, and the other day for the picture that was published....to show the world that MJ had died. What an illusion....
This is the picture of my kitchen, taken during the day, tilting the camera slightly down towards the floor....the reflection from the window is of the trees and the sky....spongebob stickers on the windows are compliments of my son.... :lol: :lol:
Now THAT is funny!!! :lol:
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« on: March 26, 2011, 01:56:38 PM »
God Bless you TS and God please be with Michael in this time. I can't even imagine what he must be feeling right now. I can't talk or write about it and keep any composure!
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« on: March 24, 2011, 02:29:19 AM »
The one thing that has always bugged me about the paramedics and particularly the one standing, is the placement of his ONE Hand. This may have been brought up before, but I haven't read the discussion if there was one. If you look up, proper hand placement for CPR, the hand is suppose to be in the middle of the chest. This guy looks like he almost has his hand on the patients shoulder. Maybe he took guidance from Conrad!!
This leads me to believe they are not the "real thing", Which reminds me of the old Coke commercial....hmmm
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« on: March 23, 2011, 01:24:02 PM »
Where is TS? :?
Maybe he or she is attending something about Elizabeth Taylor's death? :?
Now i see TS joined the forum on March 20 last time :? ....strange, he/she used to post almost every day (night where I live)
I noticed this too... Got the news this am. Strange. I couldn't sleep last night and was up between 2-2:30. I wonder when this all happened? The world has lost one of the last great cinema performers & the QUEEN of Hollywood. Peace be with you TS. <3[/b]
Funny you should mention that MsTrintiy...I didn't sleep either...The Army's connections must have been working overtime! God be with Elizabeth's family and Michael. I know he and her family is hurting.. :cry:
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« on: March 23, 2011, 06:17:41 AM »
I haven’t seen TS post any responses yet, and I pray to God that he doesn’t get totally fed up with the BS brought in here. I am continually amazed at the attitudes here. Everyone is getting tired of this ride?! REALLY YOU ARE GETTING TIRED!! OMG!! That statement tells me that there are those that have no clue after all the months upon months of posting and redirects, what is really going on here.
Michael Joe Jackson’s life is at stake, he is fighting for his life and that of the worlds and you say you are tired of the game and the RIDE is not FUN anymore. God be with us! I don’t even know where to go with that other than heaven help. There are many other website that think this is a game, and waiting for Michael to jump back on the stage and do concerts. Maybe those sites would be a little more entertaining for you. Because this forum thread is about facts and research, not to amuse people. I find it really sad that people take Michael’s life so blasé. If it were the other way around and your life depended on the truth being found and understood, would you appreciate such a cavalier attitude of boredom from your team of support. My guess would be NO! Why not just go ahead on with life and wait until Michael comes back and then you can ask him for all the answers, if you really believe it is him and that he is telling the truth. My guess would be many will question on that day, but I am sure Michael will have everything spelled out by that time as in TS.
So why have this attitude in here, like TS owes anyone anything to do with Michael. I don’t see that a single member of this forum is a victim of TS, so why play such. TS must very close in spirit with Michael to have to patience of a saint to deal with this ridicule. If you feel you are being diverted why are you here. There are a vast array of theories out there, and I am sure you could find on that suites you. I mean that is how the media plays it. Whatever sounds good for that day.
This site is one of the most widely known sites on the internet, and I am sure the guest that come in to watch and review, find some of these comments to be what is most amusing, and that is why they are dropping out of here, because of the constant ridicule. As long as TS was posting something that gave hope, EVERYONE just loved it. But now that he is trying to show us how we can be manipulated by the press , the media, the government, the banking system, when the heat is turned up and it gets rough around the edges, all the complaints start rolling out.
Well there is a old saying…”If you can’t run with the big dogs, stay on the porch” That way those that are interested in exploring clues and learning the system, will be able to do so without all the piles of BS that float around. Those of us that want to learn greatly apologize to the ones who are skilled and seasoned at CSI and CIA, and FBI investigations and that already know everything and are just in here for a good story. Not everyone considers the information given to us by TS, telling us how to think, but rather giving us the material to look at and think with that are of importance. Maybe not to everyone, but just because you don’t see the importance doesn’t mean it isn’t. These people that Michael had to face don’t think like you and I. They are so eat up with evil, their minds function in a whole different realm than what most are familiar with. So this plan is very complex, and although most would like answers in a condensed easy to read format, you are setting yourself up for disappointment.
I just pray TS does not give up on those of us who care to see how this unravels and how to uncover lies.
I am sure many will disagree and not like what I have to say, but at this point I really don’t care. Respect is a two way street and there are those of us who appreciate what is being presented here, so if you want respect Give it.
Love is unconditional and I do love each and everyone even if you don’t agree. But I am ready to move forward and uncover more lies because the tentacle on this Monster is far reaching. God Bless you all.
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« on: March 21, 2011, 06:35:37 PM »
I do not see anything in that rectangle and I do not know what this topic is going to bring us BUT I'm sure that if this wasn't important, TS would have never asked us to think about it. And again I'm sure that he will explain it in details or direct us to find it ourselves what he is trying to show. It is so so sad to see some of you are having fun with TS and with this topic. You do not need to see anything there or you do not need to understand what this is all about. If you know what RESPECT means, and if you have respect to others who want to discuss and learn more what is behind this issue, then you wouldn't have posted shit pictures and laugh at it like 10 year old kids. I would expect you guys to be mature enough to skip this topic if you are not interested in it or think that this is just BS. But pls respect US who are interested in this issue and bring your ridiculous mocking to somewhere else.
Hello Purelove and everybody!!!!!!
I know what you want to say but please try to understand that we are not perfect and we need some good laugh from time to time.It's almost two years and some of us are tired and maybe some good laugh is the way not to loose our minds,lol.
Michael likes to play around and to joke some time,so we are doing what maybe he would do in this situation,lol :lol:
.I follow this redirect every day and I would like to post here also, but his forum it's like a RABBIT HOLE.Even if one day would have 48 hours ,lol it will not be enough to answer to all posts .Some of us have families ,jobs and our own problems .Respect and Love it's all we need but some good laugh from time to time,also.
LOVE
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Very much appreciated Souza!
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« on: March 21, 2011, 10:11:49 AM »
Wow!!...Well, in TS and Souza's defense I would have to say, it appears as though what readers and participants are looking for are just straight out answers. Just spelling it all out very directly and let’s get on to Michael jumping out in front of the cameras and saying "Well did we have fun here"?
But as I see it there are no easy answers in this thing. It is about Life and Death. And in a court of law they are going to throw things out there for the defense to answer such as ...do you recognize this, or have you seen this before and can you prove your statement. Those witnesses had better be prepared to give precise and direct evidence or someone goes to jail.
So if it appears that it is to Hot in here, this is a walk in the park compared to the real thing. As far as the pic of the cow manure, all I can say is Thank God you were not on Michael's defense team and part of the witness list in 2005. Patience and understanding is what it takes to uncover the truths here not sarcasm, frustration OR BS.
I would imagine if TS were to just throw it all down here today in front of everyone, there would be so many question thrown back at him and then he would still have to go through all these steps to try and give proof because that would be the next thing that people would be looking for. So I would think the logical way to handle it is to have everyone think through the proof which has many layers. And since TS has the answers and we don’t it would be better to just observe if you don’t have answers than to be critical of what is presented. I have been wrong about several ideas that I have had, but I am here to learn. Quick and easy answers will not be found.
Let’s do it with L.O.V.E.
PS. I am sure I may have offended some which is not the intent, but I love you anyway. These are my thoughts.
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« on: March 20, 2011, 08:59:33 AM »
Does anyone recognize this?
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It is the image from the gray back rest on the side seat behind the paramedic standing up!
Or on the paramedic's pants. Of which I forgot to add is a reflection on the window of Michael standing outside ...IMHO
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