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« on: June 30, 2010, 06:35:41 PM »
Who has checked out the person who said they tracked down Uncle Marvin? I mean how exactly did they track down Marvin so quickly? Do they even know if they had the right person? Who are they that they are such a credible source?

I have listened to this video a few times and I don't detect a lot of lying. The guy on the video goes on tangents, which is quite unusual for a liar because liars are usually methodical and meticulous in word choice. They are usually trying to remember the lie or script and just normally don't go off on a tangent style rant. He seemed very natural and there was no stuttering or anything like that.

I'm 50/50 on this and so many other things point to MJ being alive that I don't need the validity of this YT to confirm my belief.

Either way I'm not discounting this guy just yet.

Other Odd Things / Re: Everyone who's in on the Hoax
« on: June 28, 2010, 08:43:00 PM »
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
bet when it is all over we are gonna go  :o

I bet we are. It'll probably who we least expect.

Other Odd Things / Re: Everyone who's in on the Hoax
« on: June 28, 2010, 08:15:40 PM »
Quote from: "missdanipyt"
Mmm I dont know for some reason it's hard for me to grasp the idea of Michael trying to pull this off without his immediate family all knowing about it, I mean how would that even work? I don't think he just let them all believe he was really dead...i mean look at all the signs we get from Jermaine and Latoya!!

That's what I think too. I know how my family works and I just can't see none of his immediate family knowing. There are times when I have doubted if all the siblings could know and sometimes Joe, but my mind always tells me that they have to know. I think all of his siblings know, but some of them like Rebbie, Jackie, and Marlon don't want to be involved in the public aspect of it. I think they are just working in the background while everyone else keeps up the chaos, confusion, and distractions. I think they all give enough to let those who care enough and those who choose to look deeper little signs here and there. I don't believe that there is a "clue" in every single news article, commercial, article of clothing worn, picture, or song lyric; but I do believe there are subtle little signs and slip-ups thrown out there from time to time.

They are just doing what they need to do to help MJ. It's no less than I would do for the people I love most in this world.

Other Odd Things / Re: Everyone who's in on the Hoax
« on: June 28, 2010, 08:00:45 PM »
I don't think there are as many people as most people think are in on this thing. You wouldn't need and shouldn't have that many people in on it. Actually I think the majority of people are just doing what they are told and probably don't even know why. Some people are just playing their very specific and tiny role and just that. This whole thing has to be on a need to know basis, and they all know with something this serious lots of people do not need to know.

I think the main players are:

-The Jackson Family (Parents, siblings (maybe not even all of them), children, trusted nieces & nephews)
-Dr. Murray
-1 0r 2 High ranking legal authorities
- John Branca (remember MJ instructed him to take care of everything)
-The closest and most trusted bodyguards. Probably a couple for MJ and a couple to keep watch over the children. Not all of the security around the Jackson's probably know.
-A hand selected group of closed, trusted, tried and true friends like Chris Tucker, Al Sharpton, Elizabeth Taylor, Kenny Ortega, and maybe Macauly Culkin.

That's about it. I mean that's enough as it is. I seriously don't believe that all the names that get tossed around are in the mix. Sure there are some people in the public eye who have caught on just as we have, many are probably members and/or lurkers of the various forums, and so they probably seem to be in on it. I think there is a very trusted group of selected individuals. They have a set plan and set scripts and they have their assignments. The core group's job is to give everyone else the orders and it trickles from there. I think only the core group of trusted individuals know what exactly in going on.

That's what I'm thinking anyway. It's just my opinion and I could be really far from the truth but I think there is a very small group in the complete "know" here.

Thanks for posting this. I've never paid attention to this but thank you for the work you put in. I'm gonna watch this page now.

Quote from: "tabloidburn"
Quote from: "The Little Mermaid"
I wonder if we'll ever get to see them, though...

I saw this one image because I googled it and this is what popped up:


It's pretty old, but it's been getting recent comments, so idk.

you should have put a warning on this! it's VERY GRAPHIC!!!


(dunno if this is even real...and no part of the face can be seen, either)

Couldn't be him according to the autopsy report he didn't have long hair. Only bald spots, a tattooed hairline, and short tightly curled hair in some spots. So this couldn't be correct, besides Mike's out there living and breathing just like us. So there are no MJ autopsy photos.

Michael Jackson News / Re: King of Pop - will come under attack today!
« on: April 29, 2010, 02:57:02 PM »
Let show the media who is in control!!!!
Hey guys go make a comment on Extra's website here:

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find an email. tell everyone else to do the same. Let's make them take this story down. MJ and his family (and other people like them) have gone through enough at the hands of the media and the crap they put out there.

It's time to tell them enough is enough. We are the people and today we can change things. LET'S SHUT THEM DOWN. LET'S MAKE THEIR HEADS SPIN. WE HAVE TO DEMAND THAT THEY DON'T AIR THIS OR WE WILL BOYCOTT.

It's time to send a big message...let's send it TODAY

Michael Jackson News / Re: King of Pop - will come under attack today!
« on: April 29, 2010, 02:26:49 PM »
Well I just posted my two cents and I tweeted them. I'm tired of this crap. They struck a nerve with me today. I have the right to tell them I don't want to see this smut. This pissed me off today.

@SunShine Mind if I join your tabloid burning party?

Michael Jackson News / Re: King of Pop - will come under attack today!
« on: April 29, 2010, 02:10:15 PM »
I'm on my way to write to EXTRA right this minute. We can be the voice of the MJ since he can't speak right now. This is just ridiculous and uncalled for news.

Messages to Michael / Re: Michael....You've Got Mail
« on: March 01, 2010, 10:04:52 PM »
Hey Michael I just wanted you know that you were on my mind today. I hope everything is going alright with you. That you are happy and in peace. I'm sending up some prayers for you and your family. I hold you in my heart forever and always. You were on my mind and I just wanted to let you know that. I mean it isn't exactly as if I can pick up the phone and let you know this stuff but this place is as good as any for the time being. I hope you are happy and healthy wherever you are out in this huge planet of ours. It's just nice to know that I still share the Earth with you and everything. Well that's it for tonight. I love you more!

Michael Jackson News / Re: Some General Observations
« on: February 10, 2010, 03:16:38 PM »
Beautiful work done here. I knew with a couple of days behind us those brilliant minds would be back to work. This thread is amazing and an amazing job done by the OP. Keep up the great work guys.

Other Odd Things / Does anyone else find these things odd? Feedback Please
« on: February 10, 2010, 12:18:29 PM »
Does anyone find it odd that:

1. Craig Harvey & Ed Winter seem to jump at the chance to offer explanations to anyone who sends an email questioning their actions. How many times have you known this to happen? To me they are just a little too eager to offer explanations when in all reality they never have to respond and just let their work speak for itself in the end. I just find it completely and utterly odd. Hmmm....

2. I have nothing against the Jackson family. I for one believe they are doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing. I don't know the inner workings of this whole thing so I'm not here to bash them (that's not my style anyway...too vexing to the spirit to thrash around negative thoughts). What I do find interesting with them is that not one of them has ever just blatantly confronted the believers in this whole thing. They address things in a roundabout fashion. It seems like they would just put us all in our places by saying something like "Look we know you all mean well & we wish Michael was still alive too but guys people are misleading you. There is no hoax, never was a hoax, we wish this was the case but Michael died on the 24th. We want you to get closure so it is our duty to let you know this is not a hoax." You know something to that effect, but not one single thing like that.

3.Since TMZ seems to be the go to source for all things Michael Jackson related at the moment. Even though I do not care for TMZ in the least. They profit off of sensationalism and the misfortunes (be it real or made up by the media) of others and make a mockery of people. Anyway, I just find it odd that they have never blatantly made a mockery of believers. They've made fun of us from time to time I believe, but again in a roundabout fashion and never directly. There has never been a "these people are crazy for believing this", "can you believe the delusion of believers". They very well could and to the glee and delight of many non-believers but they haven't.

4. Lastly, I find it odd that so many people are saying Michael was murdered by a bigger ring of people like the mafia or illuminati and such. My thing with this is if he was murdered by them, then why all the theatrics. They could have made this seem like a suicide or freak accident and we would have been none the wiser. If a group as manipulative as the illuminati were in this all coverage or most coverage of this would have ceased months ago. I think it just would have gone more seamlessly, not as many holes in it all. Could be wrong just my thinking?

Does anyone else find these things odd? Do you have anything else to add to the list? Please offer some feedback.

These are just a few of the many reasons why I still believe Michael is alive. On that note, I wholeheartedly believe he is alive but I understand that doesn't necessarily mean he is coming back. I would love, love, love to see his beautiful presence grace my television screen with a message of "I'm alright's why I had to to do this" but I'm completely aware that this may never happen. So don't let people get you down by saying "Michael is gone because this has gone too far, he's never coming back". True he may never come back but that does not in the least mean that he is not alive.

Until proven otherwise or my heart tells me different I am 100% a believer that the man is alive and breathing the same air as you and I.

Other Odd Things / Re: Something confusing about the autopsy report?
« on: February 09, 2010, 11:38:16 AM »
Okay, thanks guys for all the input.

Other Odd Things / Re: Something confusing about the autopsy report?
« on: February 09, 2010, 10:44:25 AM »
Quote from: "See"
If I´m not mistaken, nails and hair are the only thing that keep growing for some time after death...
Also hair can give investigators a very good results about any toxins in a body...

Yes I understand this. That is why hair is plucked at the autopsy. Hair is plucked so that the hair follicle can be analyzed not the hair itself. The follicle will give you the most accurate chemical readings. So no matter how the hair has grown postmortem the follicle will read the same. My question is why wait another 6 weeks? Most people will have buried their dead by then so why wait 6 weeks to take more samples? What would they have done if he would have been buried? Any coroner worth their salt is going to take more than enough samples, especially with such a controversial high profile case. It's still not adding up.

Other Odd Things / Something confusing about the autopsy report?
« on: February 09, 2010, 10:29:19 AM »
So I was reading a few excerpts some people posted from the autopsy report and I was wondering why did the investigators go back to take more hair samples six weeks after "death"? I mean we know this case has been unusual but why would they wait so long if they needed more samples? I thought all samples were collected during the autopsy. Most people bury their deceased family members within days or a couple of weeks after they die so why would they wait 6 weeks to collect more samples. In most cases the deceased would have been long buried, so that chance would not be taken to wait so long. Also, didn't they say he had more than one autopsy performed? So you mean to tell me that after multiple autopsies these guys still didn't have enough samples to test for toxicology? And why were they taking hair 6 weeks later for toxicology when the big news at that time was how they had taken brain tissue to test for toxicology? Am I making any sense in why I am confused by this, because this just doesn't sit right with me.

Here is where I got this information:
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This is the exerpt:
"The report also reveals how, six weeks after Jackson's death, coroner's officials traveled to Forest Lawn Memorial Park to take hair samples from Jackson's head "for potential toxicology testing." In the presence of Jackson's sister La Toya, "samples were collected by plucking with gloved hands." Jackson, who was viewed in a "secured lobby," was "supine in a yellow casket with blue lining."

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