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General Hoax Talk / Re: What do you think of HMH video
« on: January 06, 2011, 08:22:44 PM »
Hi, Its her:

The HMH video has been discussed in detail elsewhere on the forum, and I'm guessing that's why not much is being said here.

I've seen Merry-Go-Rounds go clockwise in Europe...

Were you thinking of "Moonwalker" maybe, where MJ comes back and there's the rustling of leaves on the sidewalk before he appears? Some people here made that connection between HMH and "Moonwalker"...

Interesting reference you made to that 1944 film & the inside of a piano. Do you happen to be a movie buff, or just into old movies?  :)

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Articles About Michael / Re: Photographer Harry Benson Flashes Back
« on: January 06, 2011, 07:44:10 PM »
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn... Wow. Is there no end to Michael's knowledge and curiosity?
I'm in AWE all over again - like so many other times!

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TMZ Articles / Re: UCLA Docs -- Michael Was DOA
« on: January 06, 2011, 07:23:47 PM »
Quote from: "~Souza~"
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And this was interesting. Cooper says MJ weighed 136 lbs.

Why is that interesting? We knew that already from the AR. The AR says that the body was around 5'9" and 136 lbs. MJ is supposed to be 5'11" and a man that height, weighing 136 lbs looks like a walking dead man. This person is not heavy, but no way he looks like a 136 lbs weighing walking dead man:

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Hmm, I think that if you take away the clothes you're left with a pretty skinny man.
As for the 5'11" and 5'9" discrepancy, did you know that people lose in height as they age? I'm not sure how fast/gradual that process happens, but it does happen. So maybe Michael was 5'11" at age 30, but 2 inches shorter at age 50...  :?:

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Michael Jackson News / Re: mjs secret hollywood.......
« on: January 06, 2011, 07:11:29 PM »
Here's another MJ take on Hollywood:
[youtube:2an0nvkz]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALbOIc-9XA8[/youtube:2an0nvkz]

"A child star in Hollywood... That's what they sold you."

I don't think it took Michael long to see the filth. And it's not news to me that Hollywood is a sick place. Just look at the paparazzi, always saying shit like "Latoya, we love you!" "Katherine, we love you!" Love my a**, pardon the language. They'd sell their own mothers. Hollywood is a fucked up place all right!

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Quote from: "nefari"
Yes that is correct. I spoke with a couple of them in person face to face off of the computer and this always came up, the darn autopsy and the size of his "bleep". I love admiring Michael's attributes as much as the next person but NOT when it comes to serious things like an autopsy. Something is way wrong with this picture.

I don't get it. Why would anyone discuss the size of Michael's penis, especially when it wasn't even included in the AR?! Nothing whatsoever is said in the AR about the size - and such information doesn't belong in an autopsy report anyway. It seems to me that the only people who could possibly discuss this are those who really want to... The fantasizers, that is.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Hold My Hand (Official Video!)
« on: December 30, 2010, 08:09:03 PM »
Quote from: "70Duda"
I don't think it's impossible that there are clues in HMH. Some, like the house number adding up to 7 is interesting. However, I don't think we see new images of MJ in the video. Because if Michael is in hiding and faked his death to escape a murder, appearing in his own new video would have tremendous risks for him.

For example:

I don't think we see Michael in this shot at all. It's put next together on YT in several videos, but if you just look at the two images, the left one does not resemble Michael at all. The person has much bigger and also higher (curly?) hair. And the chin looks more like Jay Leno's than Mike's. And what you see on his back is not a tail I think, it's more like a hoody.

I agree that the profile doesn't seem to be Michael's. It does resemble Jay Leno, as you said, as well as... Thome Thome (IMO). The hair looks like a wig to me - it somehow brings Mozart to mind.  :D  :?

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Teddy Riley's New Official Blog
« on: December 30, 2010, 07:59:53 PM »
encino_girl and curls:

Thank you for your insight, you're probably right about addicts.

Now Michael could potentially have been addicted... But to propofol, of all things?! An anesthetic which knocks you out and makes you feel like crap when you wake up? That doesn't make much sense (if any) to me - and makes even less sense when considering the fact that MJ showed great interest in medicine, and was probably quite knowledgeable about many things. If dehydration and/or insomnia and/or back pain were his issues, propofol is NOT what he needed.

There's also the fact that the AR shows lots of punctures and scars on MJ's body, including many on his arms, and a photo of MJ taken approximately 7-10 days before June 25th (during costume fitting) shows MJ's bare arms, with no needle marks in sight...

The whole story just doesn't make sense.

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Other Odd Things / Re: A picture is worth a 1000 words.....
« on: December 29, 2010, 10:10:07 PM »
Is that Bush Sr. holding those pictures?! How low and cheap and disgusting!!

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Michael's Impersonators / Re: Did wylie really die?
« on: December 29, 2010, 10:07:16 PM »
I think it''s Michael in that video with Dionne Warwick.

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TMZ Articles / Re: MJ Estate: Discovery Channel Is 'Debased, Sick'
« on: December 29, 2010, 09:22:44 PM »
Quote from: "chloead505"
I am a lawyer and I can assure you that the family or the Estate WOULD succeed in bringing action against Disc. It's against the Human Righs Charter in the first place. Protection of privacy and human dignity, anyone? OMFG really.

Discovery Channel would argue that they're using a dummy, not MJ's body, and so they're not invading MJ's privacy. I don't know who'd win... I think it's hard to tell.

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Live Performances / Re: American Bandstand 2002 performance
« on: December 29, 2010, 08:11:41 PM »
encino_girl:

I agree that Michael wasn't frail or emaciated per se, but I do think he looked both thin and tired at times in TII, and it's probably that combination of greater-than-usual thinness (and now at age 50!)  and apparent tiredness/exhaustion that alarm(ed) some people... When I watched TII there were many moments when I found myself thinking "God, he's so skinny!"or "Man, he looks tired"...

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Michael's Impersonators / Re: Did wylie really die?
« on: December 29, 2010, 08:01:16 PM »
I'd give Michael 40 in TII.  :D

Wylie might have looked somewhat like a young Michael, BUT Wylie was 11 years younger than MJ and he was black... MJ's skin turned white in time due to vitiligo. I think it would have been hard for Wylie to keep up with the changes in MJ's appearance - and Wylie didn't seem to have any interest in being an MJ impersonator or double.

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The Coroner and Autopsy Report / Re: The Autopsy Report!
« on: December 29, 2010, 07:26:18 PM »
Quote from: "dominque"
That is strange, and the autospy report said that MJ had a beard and mustache present,
If that is so then the last night he did this is it is not right because he did not have a beard and or mustache.  This very confusing.

No, the AR says the opposite thing... that there was NO beard or mustache.
See page 14: "A mustache and beard are absent."

All the scars and punctures are actually an extra reason to believe that Michael is alive. About 1 week before June 25th 2009 Michael had a costume fitting with Zaldi (the TII costume designer) and the photo(s) of him in a T-shirt, with bare arms, show no punctures. I'm not sure if you guys have seen that photo or those photos (I don't recall if there was more than one)... The AR and the punctures (or lack thereof) were discussed some months ago.

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Live Performances / Re: American Bandstand 2002 performance
« on: December 28, 2010, 06:32:11 PM »
Quote from: "MagentaLOVES"
Quote from: "mjkate"
really! what makes you think that!!! He didn`t talk so it would be really hard to tell. If that isn`t him though...what would that mean for TII and other performances - do you think this person did other performances too...

you can just tell when you look at the face, and as you see the fedora is covering it up the whole time, and when MJ has a double go out for him they usually wear glasses but this one cant wear them cus mj never performs with shades, or maybe that is just me..and when he tkes off the fedora the shots are far away!!!

No way... That's Michael in that performance. There are some pretty close shots after he takes off the fedora, and moreover some people in the audience are very close to the stage and I'm sure they could have told had that person been a double. Let's not forget that some people were there! Not everyone watches this only on TV or a computer screen.

The other video posted here, with the TII rehearsals: Interesting, I'd never seen the whole thing. I think it's Michael there throughout as well... though he seems thinner in the last days of the rehearsals than when he's shown rehearsing with Travis in front of the mirrors. (I wouldn't say his arms were ever beefy, though.) And yes, it's always interesting to see MJ in a T-shirt with bare arms, because that shows he most likely had no needle marks to hide!

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Michael's Impersonators / Re: Did wylie really die?
« on: December 28, 2010, 06:21:54 PM »
Quote from: "MagentaLOVES"
but havent most of you noticed, as years would go by, MJ would randomly get younger, look younger, when his age was really old, I mean this is it for instance..I know its part of his genes to look like that but lets be realistic

Come on, 50 is not "really old". Would you guess, if you didn't know, that Katherine & Joe are in their 80s? Doesn't Janet look amazing at 40+?

nefari: I don't believe the twin theory (that Michael himself had a twin, that is), but I'd like to say that I find it really, really nice of you that you keep visiting Wylie's crypt.  :)

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