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It's just sad...

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This Is It / Re: A Screencap From 'This Is It'
« on: November 11, 2013, 05:52:10 AM »
Are you sure this moment in the video is really before MJ's 02 conferance speech? Anyway it's very very interesting. The 02 conferance has always bothered me a lot -  you can see in the footage that almost every single person in the audience is filming MJ with their cameras, phones or whatever but yet, you will not find any amateur/private footage of the event on yt or generally on the  internet... Something's strange here 0.o

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Wow Conrad - you were nearly bald with grey hair and within a few hours you got an afro and  tinted your hair... Did you drink water from the fountain of youth? Because this is just impossible in real life! XD
If we admit that Murray is a real person, then this photo must have been taken before ... But if Murray's just a character, then they 've just made a big and unprofessional mistake, but we've already seen that in the hoax before...
It's just strange... But that's what i love in this hoax :D

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Tom Mesereau / Re: Tom Mesereau reacts to the Michael Jackson death hoax!
« on: September 23, 2013, 11:59:43 AM »
I love how he makes it clear that "MJ being dead/alive" is merely a question of belief or opinion... It's absolutely not something that you will say knowing for certain that a person is dead... I mean in real life you don't have people speculating about their let's say grandfather's death - "Oh I believe he passed aways but I respect your opinion..." Lol  
If he didn't have ANY doubts about his death, he would never say anything like that - he will say that yes those people are crazy and that they hurt the family etc by believing MJ is still alive...i mean that would be the proper behaviour especially for a lawyer... But hey, this is a hoax XD

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The video seems fake to me (overacted in my opinion, especially MJ's supposed audio) but the topic in itself is interesting as I do believe that MJ had real problems with those people and that this was one of the reasons for a death hoax (just the thing that he was supposed to be in one of the Twin Towers on 9/11 makes you go hmmm...). However the video in itself is hoaxy - it is hoaxed/fake or directly hoax releated...
I know it's completely crazy but the guy seems somehow similar to Conrad Murray (or the person who "plays" CM as we were speculating about the mask) - he has the same weird body language, the same speech tone, and the "God bless you all" repeated at the end really made me tthink of CM's video from 2009... I know it's far-fetched but so is almost everything in this hoax :P
PS. This video reminds me of an other one that was released some weeks ago - You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

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Oh come on guys - if somebody rly murdered MJ, then this person (whoever it is) would do anything to avoid speculation, buzz and inconstances... A murder means no odd memorial, no body missing, no weird burial, no photoshopped photos (ambulance, autopsies...), no strange family's behaviour (because no! I do not believe that they would be a part of a murder plot), no Dave Dave and ridiculous death certificates, no trials, no toys... Nothing of that sort!!! And uhm...those things are all that this "death" is about... So please let's stay logical and though we know very well that the recent events weren't really optimistic, we shouldn't forget about everything we've learnt thoughout those past 4 years... Keep the faith and carry on :D

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Let's point out some things that make this theory absurd :) :
1) the hoax is mainly based on what happened on june 25th and if MJ is rly dead and the whole hoax is just Sony's idea then how can you explain the 911 call, the weird behaviour of paramedics, the ambulance photo (obviously photoshop), the odd helicopter transporting the body etc etc and then the hoax is also visible through the autopsy that makes no sense at all, the contradictions of doctors, Joseph instead of Joe etc etc - how could Sony arrange this without being directly involved in MJ's death? Bcs those things are clearly prepared in advance...
2) We all know the trials are also a part of the hoax (especially Murray's one) - is Sony also behind it? Because the toys in the courtroom clearly indicate that there's something odd going on... Will they go so far in the idea of a hoax to actually set up a court case, pay the juges and the witnesses? And it brings me to  point no 3 --->
3) As some of you already pointed out - how a hoax illusion makes MJ's death more interesting and therefore makes Sony earn more money? There is only a small amount of ppl who take the "clues" and other odd stuff surrounding MJ's death as an indication that there's a hoax going on - 99% of humanity doesn't even care and those who care just find the weird behaviour of the family and/or the media etc ridiculous... Moreover - seeing those "clues" may actually make some ppl believe MJ was murdered etc (by Sony/AEG whoever) bcs of all those crazy reports about his health and mental condition... So a hoaxed hoax is rather risky and not rly necessary for Sony...

That's all for now as I have little time now to go further into the theory :D

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MJDHI Announcements / Re: Forum down the last couple of days
« on: September 02, 2013, 11:50:25 AM »
First of all I'm truly glad that this forum is back because i consider it as one of the few (if not the only) places on the internet that take this hoax seriously and INVESTIGATE it... So thank you billion times Souza for keeping this forum what it should be ;)

As for the "new" Front's forum - i find it just really really disturbing and strange... Whoever twitter Front is, I believe that his forum is nothing good for the hoax community... First of all it divides people (those who follow Front/not), it leads non-believers in the wrong direction (deaders who get interested in Front on twitter will end up looking for info on his forum and i don't think they'll find any "serious" hoax info there) and finally it leads the hoax in a "superficial" direction... "Gold Pants" being one of the main threads on the forum is truly disturbing and not serious at ALL... I mean come on - what's this hoax about? With all those pretty sh*tty threads on Front's forum how credible we are to non-believers? And the Front's cult is also very annoying - what has this person done to become the centre of the hoax? I mean ok, Forum Front was interesting...but Twitter front? Isn't it too much? I thought it was Michael's hoax and we were there for him...but i guess it's not enough for some people...oh wait I take back my words as some people believe Front IS Michael.........
Well, back to the subject, I understand that some people follow him bcs he gives them hope in those pretty hard hoax times...but please do not let yourself be distracted from what's really important in this hoax...
I saw that TS is also mentioned on Front's forum and i find it strange too... I know that TS somehow validated Forum Front..,but he did nothing for Twitter Front...so why is Front using all his info on his forum? To make it similar to MJHDI? Idk...

I just find the "new" forum very fishy as i don't really get its purpose...maybe Front wants a place where he'll be in the centre of people's attention as he knows there are many anti-Twitter Front on MJHDI... I have no idea just thinking out loud here... And please i don't want to sound disrespectful to anyone here who follows Front - i truly respect your opinion ;) I'm only afraid that Twitter Front is leading this hoax community to a dead end...

Anyway keep the faith!!!! Love to all :)

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TMZ Articles / Re: Conrad Murray MJ Hired Me And Hated AEG
« on: August 24, 2013, 02:51:06 AM »
Actually he says "seven" three times - the first time for the actual number 7 then he says it twice for the actual number 8 - he says something like "number seven, seven" then - which makes 777 --> wow what a coincidence XD I guess it's a little hint for us beLIEvers that this recording is definitely a part of the hoax ;)
And am I the only one here to think that especially by the end of the tape Murray sounds very much like Michael? - not really his voice but the way he's pronouncing and emphasizing some words.... And finally it doesn't appear to me like a voice mail left for a friend - it seems more like a speech for the public - it is pretty much elaborated for a voice mail message - the points, the ending (conclusion) - and he mentions his name at the end of the tape not at the beginning as you normally do when you leave a message for a friend. Well it's very very hoaxy - i love it XD

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This whole BS on twitter is just so much confusing :S  :smiley-vault-misc-150: they all act like disturbed girls who desperately seek attention to fulfill their sick fantasies on Michael - makes you wanna vomit... And calling MJ a whore (what a BS seriously...) is just so disrespectful - whether it makes him appear more "viril" / "male or not, it is just insulting - calling a girl a whore isn't funny and it's the same for a man even though we tend to forget it...

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: August 15, 2013, 12:25:09 PM »
Bec, i want to remind you that NONE of us here or anywhere in the world (apart from MJ of course) knows for sure what this hoax is about. Entertainment - for sure this hoax is very entertaining and when bam comes it will be a great surprise that will become something major in the whole entertainment history... But why not entertain and educate? What's wrong with that? Why not show people that there are some things going on in this world that most of us aren't aware of? Is that less entertaining? Of course it isn't - it creates the buzz, stories, controversy - it's great - it's entertaining - it may not be 100% clean but that's how our world works - after all, people enjoy watching movies where people are getting murdered etc... It's also in human nature to completely ignore certain things - and I agree that many people won't care about bam, MJ, his life etc etc but it's the same with every single event/person... Life is unfair and people are egoist and that's a fact that won't change... Most of us cannot fight the injustice in the world as our poor lives are pretty meaningless and vulnerable on a global scale... Is MJ any different? No! But he's probably the most famous person in the world and he has the ability to change something (money, power, fame whatever) - ok people won't give a s*** about how unjustly he was treated and accused and i believe that many will still call him a pedophile... But wait, if he says something that concerns our average life, if he talks about mind control, governements, justice, media etc etc - that will get interesting as a person that doesn't give a s*** about Mj will suddenly realize that they're somehow concerned... Will it be entertaining - hell yes! Will it educate/open people's minds? Hell yes! Then where's the problem? If this hoax is all about entertainment, then what are the numerology, clues etc for? Entertainment? Of who? A small group of hoaxers? If MJ comes back and says that he's just fooled everybody? How will it truly affect an average person? Oh well he was dead now he's alive..what's the difference - it's a surprise but after a week or two it just gets normal and the whole hoax is somehow forgotten as i do not believe that people will read all the investigation and get informed of all the clues... As you said - as long as it doesn't concern their average person, people won't care! But if MJ reveals something that somehow touches all of us - how brilliant it will be! His plan, his hoax will suddenly make sense - some people may eventually get interested in his numerology, clues as they will understand that there is a REASON behind them! Entertainment is a "huge" word and I believe that the more complicated and unpredictable a thing is, the more entertaining it is - and this hoax has surely many layers, many of which we are not even aware of... 

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: August 15, 2013, 09:17:24 AM »
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Bec, but isn't "a very good reason" the base of this whole hoax? This hoax is absolutely not for entertainment purposes only and i do believe that MJ wants to make us and the whole world realize some things (not a "personal crusade" but a much larger thing such as how the music industry treats the artists, Illuminati connexion etc etc as i'm pretty much certain that MJ's not pulling this hoax out only for some selfish purposes) that are usually ignored by the general public. Exposing "a very good reason" after bam is imo what will get the attention of people all around the world (with the exception of some people such as our grandparents lol) and what will have a massive effect on how MJ will be seen (his true genius will have to be recognized, even though, i agree with you, haters still gonna hate). Without that reason, bam, and the hoax are somehow pointless and if there is a come-back, then MJ might have some serious problems as people will feel betrayed (especially fans) even though everything in the hoax was legal. But if MJ has a "good reason" then not only will he get the people's attention (as i believe we (believers) won't be the only ones to care) but also revealing his magnificent hoax and its purposes he'll be able to explain his not 100% moral/legal proceedings (and don't get me wrong, I do not believe there are many of such things in this hoax but while he may be clean with the law, there will always be people claiming that this or that shouldn't have been done etc). If you want to expose someone, you just cannot be 100% nice to that person, especially when it is part of a larger operation (we were talking about the FBI involvement, stings etc)... If MJ has some important people on his side, i believe that nothing is impossible. While Murray's trial had fake written all over it, this one has always been a lot different to me, much more serious (maybe bcs we don't have live video coverage and can't see all the toys in the room lol). The fact that Katherine is directly involved bothers me a lot bcs somehow i do not believe that MJ would like his mum to be in court everyday and listen to horrible things being said about his son, whether he's dead or not, for hoax/entertainment purposes only... So imo he has to have some very good reasons to even let this trial begin. So i think that there has to be a real purpose for this trial (that may be half fake but not completely) and i have no real idea what this purpose is but i believe it will be part of the "very good reason" for this hoax and that it will be revealed after bam.
That being said, I have no real clue what's going on so i just wait...  :smiley-vault-misc-150:  :LolLolLolLol:

+1

I agree with EVERY word! My sentiments exactly. :icon_e_smile:

Then we are at least two :D I hope that i made myself clear enough in my post, which was pretty difficult as my brain is getting more and more similar to a pudding with all those trials and tribulations in the hoax now  :screaming-7365:  :LolLolLolLol:

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: August 15, 2013, 01:47:11 AM »
Bec, but isn't "a very good reason" the base of this whole hoax? This hoax is absolutely not for entertainment purposes only and i do believe that MJ wants to make us and the whole world realize some things (not a "personal crusade" but a much larger thing such as how the music industry treats the artists, Illuminati connexion etc etc as i'm pretty much certain that MJ's not pulling this hoax out only for some selfish purposes) that are usually ignored by the general public. Exposing "a very good reason" after bam is imo what will get the attention of people all around the world (with the exception of some people such as our grandparents lol) and what will have a massive effect on how MJ will be seen (his true genius will have to be recognized, even though, i agree with you, haters still gonna hate). Without that reason, bam, and the hoax are somehow pointless and if there is a come-back, then MJ might have some serious problems as people will feel betrayed (especially fans) even though everything in the hoax was legal. But if MJ has a "good reason" then not only will he get the people's attention (as i believe we (believers) won't be the only ones to care) but also revealing his magnificent hoax and its purposes he'll be able to explain his not 100% moral/legal proceedings (and don't get me wrong, I do not believe there are many of such things in this hoax but while he may be clean with the law, there will always be people claiming that this or that shouldn't have been done etc). If you want to expose someone, you just cannot be 100% nice to that person, especially when it is part of a larger operation (we were talking about the FBI involvement, stings etc)... If MJ has some important people on his side, i believe that nothing is impossible. While Murray's trial had fake written all over it, this one has always been a lot different to me, much more serious (maybe bcs we don't have live video coverage and can't see all the toys in the room lol). The fact that Katherine is directly involved bothers me a lot bcs somehow i do not believe that MJ would like his mum to be in court everyday and listen to horrible things being said about his son, whether he's dead or not, for hoax/entertainment purposes only... So imo he has to have some very good reasons to even let this trial begin. So i think that there has to be a real purpose for this trial (that may be half fake but not completely) and i have no real idea what this purpose is but i believe it will be part of the "very good reason" for this hoax and that it will be revealed after bam.
That being said, I have no real clue what's going on so i just wait...  :smiley-vault-misc-150:  :LolLolLolLol:

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AEG ~ Sony / Re: Katherine Jackson versus AEG set for trial 9-10-2012
« on: August 13, 2013, 05:15:13 AM »
I found some of the abc7courts tweets strange to say the least ... The same for Randy's deposition... Grace is very present in this testimony and it is somehow disturbing, and the fact that Randy portraits MJ as a drug addict and in a way a mentally disturbed person (denying taking anything, isolating himself, acting irresposible etc) is very annoying and contradictory with other testimonies... Bizarre, bizarre...
These are the tweets that caught my attention:

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10 ago
"I haven't even buried my brother yet," Randy said.

 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10 ago
Randy: We were still trying to figure out how to grieve, and these people are in court, and will, and this nonsense.

---> wtf? "Figure out how to grieve"? Imo that should be smth natural...and well I thought that MJ was buried 4 years ago lol


 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 10 ago
Randy wrote letters to my family about MJ's problem and that they had to do something to help.

---> "to my family" idk if i get it right but it seems as though Randy wrote letters to the family of the person who's running this tweeter...hmmm only a mistake while typing? Or a slip-up... Interesting anyway...


 ABC7 Court News ‏@ABC7Courts 9 ago
Randy said Michael enjoyed touring.
Q: Why do you say that?
A: Well, because we like to tour, perform.

---> i've always thought MJ hated touring ... Lol and Randy claims that he was close to his brother...

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The Hoax Mentioned In The Media / Re: Jay Z beLIEves?!
« on: July 30, 2013, 11:45:51 AM »
Am I the only one here to think that Jay Z and Beyonce are actually involved in some Iluminati stuff? I know that Jay Z has some songs with satanic lyrics, Beyonce uses a lot the baphomet symbol and well, they called their daughter Blue... So... :S

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