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TMZ Articles / Re: CONRAD HAS A COW ON 5-YEAR DEATH ANNIVERSARY
« on: June 25, 2014, 02:05:54 PM »
Hey look, it's orange pants guy.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Cinco de Mayo, 5-5 (2014): BAM!!!!!
« on: May 08, 2014, 01:44:12 PM »
bec, I caught the "fake informer" and "Front is the real MJ" thing too.

TS and Front seem to have (probably intentionally) contradicted each other.  TS says he's an informer of the fake and then in the same post say Front is MJ.  Front said on twitter that anyone who may actually know who MJ is online is NOT going to tell.  And also said that anyone claiming to be MJ is definitely not MJ.  It's gotten to the point where thinking Front is MJ or not doesn't matter as long as you are thinking for yourself.  If someone sees something with 2 or more strong evidences that haven't been debunked to support a "theory", then at least it's a solid theory.  Is it proof?  No.  Is it perspective (whatever an opinion might be)? Yes.  If you're thinking for yourself then at least TS has done his "job" whatever else he might say true or untrue.  And whatever anyone's opinion on Front is... he sure is one of, if not the most, controversial hoax "character".

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I don't wish to rain on the party, but i truly think that grown up adults in a family that has so many issues and argues and trials and contracts and God knows whatelse including money, DO HAVE words about each others. I believe Jermaine could say so about MJ, and i believe MJ could say so about his family. I don't say i'm right or wrong, i just see what this people "do", the way the act, and sometime, i don't see any LOVE. So how could this be part of the Hoax... I don't mean they hate each other. I just say everything is not black or white (lol)

We don't know who may be in the know, and in what way. Anyway, being in the know surely may not change what people think deep inside. Maybe Jermaine knows MJ is alive, yet he thinks MJ would have been nothing without the J5. He may be part of the hoax as a character, under a contract signed with MJ.

Such deal wouldn't include the lines "Jermaine must kiss my *** in every words he says about me"

Jackson family love and support each other, Michael is playing with the media, don't believe anything they say, Jackson family are playing a role in Michael's hoax, they like controversy to be under the spotlight, all Jackson family members know MJ is alive, time will tell.


I agree.  My thoughts on this are that as long as the world believes the Jackson family is divided and fighting, then the world will underestimate them and therefore indirectly underestimate MJ.  Makes the hoax work for as long as it has because if everyone thought they had a big secret, I imagine it wouldn't take very long to figure out what that big secret is. The Jackson family being seen as weak works to their advantage, to MJ's advantage.

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Hoax Pictures / Re: The mystery of MJ's height
« on: April 09, 2014, 11:53:15 AM »
I see what you're saying mattie and I'm not dismissing anything.  I was just sharing my opinion, doesn't mean I'm right.

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Hoax Pictures / Re: The mystery of MJ's height
« on: April 09, 2014, 07:57:34 AM »
MJ's true height has always seemed a mystery.  I don't think there are 2 (or more) MJ's, just the one.  Doubles used for distractions, yes, but only one actual MJ.  The height thing could be as simple as lifts in shoes, as suggested before.  Not only lifts in MJ's shoes but also others, like KO or TP or whoever else.  Wear them one day, not another - differences in height.  Might be a simple explanation but why over-complicate it?

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in this Video they say even Michael Jackson and his birthday. 

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Ugh, you gotta be kidding me. I've almost made it out of this madness once and for all and you have to post this. August 29th, 1997, Michael Jackson turns 40, say what?? That was MJ's 39th birthday, like how the hell does that happen? First, how do the movie producers chose MJ's birthday as a noteworthy anniversary to mention in their alternative epilogue for T2 (oh god; TII), and second, ok they did chose it, after going through the trouble of researching it to put into the dialogue, how do they get it wrong?? That's just weird.

Alternate ending. Wrong year. TII. I'll be back.




Strange.

This could be unrelated but James Cameron directed T2 which made me think of the discussions here about the Avatar movie (which Cameron also directed) and all of the "Michael-isms" in that movie. 

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When this first surfaced last year many people here believed it was part of the hoax, that Robson was 'helping' MJ, in some way, by bringing child molestation back into the open to be finally thrashed out once and for all.  Anyone still think that?

I still consider that a possibility because I don't see how someone who grew up loving MJ could turn around and lie like this. I know money could be the motivation but I just don't understand how someone who always defended Michael could do this.  Another possibility though is that someone threatened Wade somehow and made him say these things.  I just hope this is resolved in the best possible way for MJ.

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General Discussion / Re: Has anyone heard from paula-c?
« on: February 04, 2014, 01:38:01 PM »

Thanks Souza, that's good to hear!

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Thanks RK, I remember reading about this when the article came out.  It''s the same author but it was on a different site.  I would like to read it again when I have time.  If I remember correctly , the way he writes it is so you connect the dots yourself, he just presents the info without telling you what to think.  I discussed it with a friend at the time (she was the one who sent me the article) and we both thought it was all more than just coincidental but in fact orchestrated, like you said RK.  

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General Discussion / Re: Has anyone heard from paula-c?
« on: February 03, 2014, 11:30:55 AM »
I'm worried about her as well.  I sent her a PM a little while ago but I don't think she's even read it.  The last time I had spoken with her (through PM on here a few months ago) she was worried about the political situation in her country.  I hope she's ok and you're right, it's not like her to have been gone from here for so long.

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Introduce yourself / Re: Dropping in to say hello
« on: January 28, 2014, 02:08:49 PM »

Good to see you again hes!

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TMZ Articles / Re: MJ LLOYD'S OF LONDON PAY BIG BUCKS IN DEATH CLAIM
« on: January 18, 2014, 08:29:03 AM »

I would guess that this whole Lloyd's thing had to be settled one way or another.  Like it says, the terms of the settlement are secret and we don't know how much $ allegedly changed hands here, we only have media reports saying it happened.  And think of all the free publicity Lloyd's received in the last 4.5 years.  We shouldn't let this payout or whatever it is get in the way of what we already know.

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but I am sure he'll be back.

There will be no comeback for the following reasons:

1 - A high volume of fans would be upset over the deception. And society views death hoaxes as highly unethical.

2 - The family name would be tarnished due to those ethics. And the family, or some of them, would have to be involved in the hoax. If people knew those tears were faked, not good.

3 - Too many legal ramifications/nightmares/backfirings would occur. And not necessarily for Michael but rather all those involved. With every hoax there are victims who might lash back. Or parties involved who try to save face via legal means.

4 - The main reason... the media, members of the law and medical sectors, members of family and corporations, etc are all involved in these Hollywood hoaxes. It would simply open up a huge can of worms with prominence on the media.  If people started to learn that the mainstream media were in on these types of scams it would confirm the deceptive nature of the media and create a huge negative trickle effect towards/against the media. Once people figure out or learn how the illusion is carried out then people will easily be able to recognize the other illusions.  Even if he came back with a logical sounding reason (or lie) and the media played along, too many people would be able to look beyond the reasons and start pondering over the other aspects... the funeral home, the courts, the hospital, the govt if he left the country, etc, etc... all part of scam.

He will never return. At least not as himself.

Hey again Anonymous.  :icon_e_smile: I'm not going to comment on reasons 1,2 and 3 because I think those objections have been overcome through numerous discussions here. Your main reason for MJ not coming back - the media and folks involved - yes it would definitely open a huge can of worms and expose the media and its illusions - but that could be the point of coming back - the media LIES.  It's probably time that everyone learns about the deceptiveness of the mainstream media and I think more and more clue into that everyday. I believe this is one of the reasons MJ faked his death - to expose these lies and what better way to do that then to come back to life in front of everyone's eyes?

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Introduce yourself / Re: Secrets
« on: January 16, 2014, 09:57:48 PM »
Well that's definitely food for thought. :icon_bounce:  

Not sure what to think here but ya, interesting for sure and that's an understatement.

You might not come back and post again but I have to ask...what about John Lennon? Princess Diana? Freddie Mercury?  They weren't really "Hollywood" per se but to be honest I have wondered/hoped that they could still be alive somehow. 


And is it just me or is it coincidental  that these sort of 'revelations' tend to happen after the forum has been down then restored? 

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Revisiting Old Stuff / Re: Why are you still watching?
« on: January 11, 2014, 08:23:26 AM »
I'm still watching because I know Michael is alive.  And as long as he is alive, there is always the chance (and IMO, a very good chance) that he will return.  Not only for us to see, but the world - no uncertainty. I believe the hoax is the culmination of his life's work and he will have much more to say when he comes back.  The signs of the hoax point to a comeback... I realize that plans can change but I don't think this is over or will remain unresolved. Honestly, I couldn't stop watching even if I tried. MJ is still communicating with us.

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