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[MJ might have made a deal with those who wanted him dead.]

Okay, the only part I could agree with is the deal thing, as I stated that before in another thread. MJ might have made a deal with those who wanted him dead. To the world he was dead already and they could have killed him for real if they wanted to. May be this is why a deal was made and they let him live if he doesn't expose them.That's why I don't think he will come back. I wish someone could debunk this theory though because I don't want to see him defeated in this battle :(  It's heartbreaking to see all the plans made to expose TPTB go with the wind. But i can never blame him. He has to stay safe. No one wants him to be killed or his family harmed in any way. He has proved to the whole world that he is a very brave man. No one else tried to expose the evil guys the way he did and those who just mentioned exposing them ended up dead. It's sad to see him vanish this way from our world. But I'm so glad he is still alive. The good thing is, he can lead a normal life now!!!

God bless you Micheal and keep you and your family safe. Amen

Okay, diggyon, I'll give a shot at a debunk  :icon_bounce: . . . by asking a couple of questions. Why would the unknown they (or TPTB), if they wanted MJ dead, be so kind as to let him live? In other words, if they were in a position to have "killed him for real if they wanted to," there thus would have been no need for a deal, so why take one?

You are right Starchild. They could have killed him if they wanted to. But what if he knew that they wanted to kill him, pulled the hoax off to expose them and escaped, they threatened him or even tried to harm him, the deal was made (things that can only be made if he was still alive to guarantee his safety and that of his family), plans changed, no one will be exposed, he stays alive! That's what I have been thinking about latey. :( I wish I'm wrong though :(:(

Okay, the only part I could agree with is the deal thing, as I stated that before in another thread. MJ might have made a deal with those who wanted him dead. To the world he was dead already and they could have killed him for real if they wanted to. May be this is why a deal was made and they let him live if he doesn't expose them.That's why I don't think he will come back. I wish someone could debunk this theory though because I don't want to see him defeated in this battle :(  It's heartbreaking to see all the plans made to expose TPTB go with the wind. But i can never blame him. He has to stay safe. No one wants him to be killed or his family harmed in any way. He has proved to the whole world that he is a very brave man. No one else tried to expose the evil guys the way he did and those who just mentioned exposing them ended up dead. It's sad to see him vanish this way from our world. But I'm so glad he is still alive. The good thing is, he can lead a normal life now!!!

God bless you Micheal and keep you and your family safe. Amen

Yes, I have. I don't think he's coming back. I always asked myself how those who want him dead still don't know about the hoax yet!!! May be there was a deal behind the scenes or something and that's why he is not coming back!!!!

Anyway, wherever you are Micheal, I hope you're enjoying your life now, after those who were following you day and night, envading your privacy, are gone for good!! You deserve to live like a human being and I hope you have found peace at the end of the road.

God bless you

OMG!!! This is heartbreaking :'(  Is there a way to save the poor girl? How come her family is not doubting what the doctors are telling them!! She can't die like that, just because her death is good for the business!!!!

Souza, what makes you think that she will die on the 11th of Feb???

I find the "National Geographic channel" logo very interesting. I think there is an anual photography contest organized by Nat Geo and sponsored by Sony. I also read an article about Nat Geo photographers and the cameras they prefer. One of those cameras  is a Sony camera.

The logo is on the right side of the photo, just like the hand on the bd picture that was also on the right side. This is all I could think about!!

You might be right michaelslady and I wouldn't doubt it for a second, that this commercial is hoax related. In the video "Hollywood tonight" there was this old man dancing and there were not so many information about him. I see a repeated pattern here. Maybe he is a "not famous dancer" and actor too ;) LOoL

The Jacksons have. And even if BH is MJ's son and the Jacksons preferred to deny this fact I believe we have to respect that and believe what they say. It's their private life after all, not a death hoax with clues that can be found everywhere (JMHO). That's why this case is closed for me, even before it actually started.

The case is not closed for me. My instinctive curiosity drives my inquisitiveness on this topic. As a matter of fact, this was on the back burner  up until Jackie Jackson recently posted, "The Magic Continues" on his twitter page relative to a marketing promo for Brandon Howard.

And in all sincerity and in complete peace - please help me to understand - if it is such a respected "private" matter and the case is closed for you, why do you continue to probe this thread?  What are you looking for?

In all sincerity and in complete peace I will tell you why. It caught my eye that this thread had 9 pages and I wondered what people have been discussing for so long now. So I stated my opinion just like you and everyone else, not forcing it on anyone. (one of the golden rules of this forum and all other forums).

Of course you are free to continue your research on this subject and I hope you find the answers you are looking for. 

The Jacksons have. And even if BH is MJ's son and the Jacksons preferred to deny this fact I believe we have to respect that and believe what they say. It's their private life after all, not a death hoax with clues that can be found everywhere (JMHO). That's why this case is closed for me, even before it actually started.

I hate to say this but what if the hoax was nothing but a set up for MJ???  He wanted to expose the bad guys, so they sent him a couple of their agents to help him pull it out. And when they made sure he disappeared from the public view they did everything possible to make his mission fail so that he can never come back, then the WR trial came too. I hope I'm wrong. ..

I can't believe that the Obama administration is allowing this " infiltration" to take place !!!!! This can't be!!!!!!!! A couple of years ago, when this hoax started, I thought that Obama himself is in on the hoax. But now, after the hoax has revealed so much, I just can't believe that Obama is allowing all this to happen!!!! The hoax is exposing the horrible agenda the American Administration is trying to hide from the public, yet the American president is in on the hoax!!! Sounds crazy!!!!!

Diggyon, it's just an assumption that maybe an infiltration has occurred. Normally, an infiltration is supposed to remain a secret, meaning if Obama is one of the bad guys, he wouldn't know about this. We will never know if Obama is the bad guy playing the good one or vice versa.

Thriller4ever, u have a point here. If the CIA and the FBI are involved, then Obama must be in the know because there is no other explanation. But what if Obama is one of the bad guys?? Wouldn't this be very dangerous for the hoax?? What if the bad guys are in control of so many things now regarding the hoax?? Would they allow MJ to expose their plans??? The elite are too powerful as u know. I just don't know what to think anymore....

Yes, it is possible for this to happen. IMO, there is 99% chance Obama is with the bad guys. I have actually an alternative hoax theory in my mind, which sounds very dangerous and depressing and I'm quite inhibited to post it because I'm not sure what kind of a reaction I might get.

But to sum it up, Illuminati very much exists, there's no doubt about that. And all of this New World Order issue is all about greed. They're just a bunch of retards who want complete control of the world and they want all the money. Also they are literally going to treat humans as "cattle" for their own benefits. Everyone who's been against them has had a miserable ending and Michael is surely among their enemies. So I don't know what's Michael's story, and I hope that he is safe (if alive), but I'm not going to deny that there might be another side to all of this and it's definitely not pretty. And if you want to know my hoax theory, I will pm you.

Oh yes I would like to know about your theory :) you can pm me :)

Okay Echo, I will lol but this won't change my opinion about this story in general. I believe that people's privacy should be respected. This is what my parents taught me.   

I can't believe that the Obama administration is allowing this " infiltration" to take place !!!!! This can't be!!!!!!!! A couple of years ago, when this hoax started, I thought that Obama himself is in on the hoax. But now, after the hoax has revealed so much, I just can't believe that Obama is allowing all this to happen!!!! The hoax is exposing the horrible agenda the American Administration is trying to hide from the public, yet the American president is in on the hoax!!! Sounds crazy!!!!!

Diggyon, it's just an assumption that maybe an infiltration has occurred. Normally, an infiltration is supposed to remain a secret, meaning if Obama is one of the bad guys, he wouldn't know about this. We will never know if Obama is the bad guy playing the good one or vice versa.

Thriller4ever, u have a point here. If the CIA and the FBI are involved, then Obama must be in the know because there is no other explanation. But what if Obama is one of the bad guys?? Wouldn't this be very dangerous for the hoax?? What if the bad guys are in control of so many things now regarding the hoax?? Would they allow MJ to expose their plans??? The elite are too powerful as u know. I just don't know what to think anymore....

I can't believe that the Obama administration is allowing this " infiltration" to take place !!!!! This can't be!!!!!!!! A couple of years ago, when this hoax started, I thought that Obama himself is in on the hoax. But now, after the hoax has revealed so much, I just can't believe that Obama is allowing all this to happen!!!! The hoax is exposing the horrible agenda the American Administration is trying to hide from the public, yet the American president is in on the hoax!!! Sounds crazy!!!!!

Do you have an original thought on what MJ meant when he said we only have 4 years...?

Unfortunately I don't :( I couldn't figure out why we had only 4 years to make it right and not 5 or even 7 or 8 years. Then many people suggested the presidential election. I'm still struggeling with this idea to be honest!

I can't believe that the Obama administration is allowing this " infiltration" to take place !!!!! This can't be!!!!!!!! A couple of years ago, when this hoax started, I thought that Obama himself is in on the hoax. But now, after the hoax has revealed so much, I just can't believe that Obama is allowing all this to happen!!!! The hoax is exposing the horrible agenda the American Administration is trying to hide from the public, yet the American president is in on the hoax!!! Sounds crazy!!!!!