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« on: March 06, 2014, 11:18:59 PM »
Not Paris. No matter how badly anyone wants it to be.
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« on: March 06, 2014, 11:06:12 PM »
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Register or LoginThe man of the hour...in his own words...
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« on: August 20, 2013, 01:19:00 AM »
Transcription of message for those who find it unintelligible:
(American accent) Hi babe.
Just want to let you know I'm thinking about you.
Always in my heart
Mmm. Please remember, no matter where you go or what you do (unintelligible) forever, together. Connected.
I spent some time today, reading scripture, praying for you. The scripture I read was about (unintelligible) (something spoken in a European language).
(Accent changes to Australian, clearly) I hope you're feeling better sweetie. I don't like it when you're sick. You seem to be getting sick quite often (accent changes slightly). It's not good.
(Accent no longer Australian, but rather nondescript - more American again)I think you try to do to much, try to take on too much sometime (sic), not only for yourself but for everyone. Sometimes you have to just stop and take a step back, and you need to take care of yourself at the same time. I do understand, our hearts are the same, and I do understand you trying to do everything for everyone else as well, and, um, trying to make everyone happy, but sometime that's impossible to do. Don't wear yourself down, ok? Promise me that. I love you very much. (Almost slurring)I wish I was there to take care of you. It hurts my heart that I'm not. I'll see you soon. Bye.
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« on: August 20, 2013, 12:53:18 AM »
Hi guys,
many of you know that twitter Front has posted a link to a message to him.
Could someone please write what is exactly said?? I'm not a native speaker, many of us are not. So it's difficult for me to follow!
Your Help is highly appreciated!
Oh, and by the way, who could be speaking in that voice recording??
I listened to the message, and I found it to be a discombobulated mess. The vocals are rather androgynous, (more female at times, but you can clearly detect a male base range). The sound that some have said are the ocean is in fact a white noise of sorts that intensifies with the speaker's enunciations. The sound of what seems to be a small engine aircraft humming can be heard in the background at one point. There is a detectible nondescript accent at some points as well. The word "sometimes" is interchanged with "sometime" (a trademark Michael colloquialism). There is also the sound of what seems to be bangles (metal bracelets) clanging together as well. The message is that of someone saying they want the listener to take care of themselves. That the speaker doesn't like it when the listener is sick. That the recipient of the message is always in the speaker's heart. That's the jist of it. It does seem there are a few words spoken in a language other than English too. I think one can come away with two suppositions. One, this was a message to Front from someone concerned for his welfare, OR, in light of his being so emotionally distraught after speaking with his daughter on the phone that he fell down the stairs, it's a message to her. If the latter is the case, someone has some 'splaining to do because that voice tends to be more female than male, yet it has male characteristics as well as the characteristics of someone attempting to sound like Michael. This is what I came away with after one listen through. Every night I listen to my colleagues' audio notes and it behooves me to pay close attention to every nuance and detail. I may not see well without my reading glasses, but I CAN hear well.
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« on: July 29, 2013, 12:47:36 PM »
So, you're gonna destroy three other kids (Michael's) and launch a foundation to help kids who've been victimized. Is it just me, or does anyone else see the hypocrisy in this?
What does WR have to gain by dragging Michael's name through the mud? For all intents and purposes, Michael is dead. As such, this only serves to hurt/damage his children. These claims only give bullies fodder with which to use against Michael's kids. YET, WR's concern is for children who are victimized.
Oh, that's right; foundations need financing!! This isn't for "the children" at all.
On behalf of Prince, Paris & Blanket, it infuriates me that he'd do this, now. True, or not (and we all know it's not), there was absolutely nothing at all to gain by coming forward 4 years after a man "passes away", and 8 years after the time in which he could have assisted in a criminal trial against his alleged molester. Nothing to gain other than MONEY!
I'd like to personally slap the piss out of that lying, backstabbing, greedy SOB. There. I said it.
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« on: July 26, 2013, 04:53:13 PM »
Just read this article from Catherine Bach on her theory why her husband committed suicide. The poor woman still only has a theory and no definite answers, but I'll post the link here as she says it was because of the TII tour and what happened to MJ that Peter took his own life.
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Former “Dukes Of Hazzard” star Catherine Bach fears Michael Jackson’s death in 2009 prompted her lawyer husband to take his life – but she still cannot figure out why.
Peter Lopez shot himself as the first anniversary of the King of Pop’s death approached in April 2010. The entertainment lawyer, who represented Jackson and helped the superstar map out his ill-fated This Is It comeback dates, left no suicide note and Bach reveals her late husband didn’t drink or take drugs and the family was “financially stable.”
The actress only has one theory and tells tabloid The Globe, “He was the man responsible for putting the This Is It tour together. I think he felt responsible for what happened to Michael. That gave him a lot of grief.”
Jackson died from an accidental overdose of anesthetic propofol while he was in the finals stages of rehearsals for the planned This Is It dates in London.
Bach reveals she and her daughters are now over the worst of the tragedy thanks to family and friends, who have supported them through their grief. She adds, “We all fell apart. I was in a state of shock for a year. I wouldn’t sleep for weeks at a time, maybe just a few hours… (but) we’ve stayed very, very close to our priest. Our friends surrounded us with love and wouldn’t let me fall.”
I don't think Peter committed suicide........ But have no way of proving it.........
This man's (tragic) death is actually what my interest in all of this (the hoax). I've worked with hundreds of people who have attempted suicide. The pattern is not there in Peter Lopez's case. There are no 'markers', so to speak. Most suicidal people only kill themselves after exhibiting suicidal tendencies. Lopez didn't. Most leave some sort of indication they took their own lives (notes etc.), especially when they have families. Peter didn't. I've always believed he was murdered. The timing, the nature of his death, his affiliations...He knew too much about something. IMO.
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« on: July 25, 2013, 10:51:13 PM »
@Sweet, you should probably remove the pic since you don't have a court order. Ironic though, I just read this article before coming to the site tonight: You are not allowed to view links.
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LOS ANGELES (AP) — A spectator attending the civil trial over Michael Jackson's death was banned Wednesday by a judge after he snapped a photo in a courthouse hallway that included jurors hearing the case.Earlier on Wednesday, jurors watched the videotaped testimony of a physician who said he treated the late singer to help him stop taking
Demerol.Bailiffs confiscated William Wagener's cellphone and ordered him to return on Thursday to find out whether the ban will remain in place or
other disciplinary actions will be taken.Wagener said he inadvertently snapped the photo on his smartphone while riding
an escalator. He cooperated with bailiffs to retrieve the photo and said
he did not send it to anyone.The photo is the latest incident that has raised concerns about the security around jurors hearing the
negligence case filed by Jackson's mother against AEG Live LLC. Two alternate jurors were approached by a woman last month who told them not to award any money to the Jackson family.In recent days, tiny windows on the courtroom door were blocked after jurors reported seeing someone press a camera to the window and snap a
photo during the proceedings. Videotaping and photography in the
courthouse are banned without a court order, and a judge blocked a
request by news outlets to broadcast the trial.Bailiffs or a court clerk give daily reminders of the courtroom's rules, which include a ban on any transmissions from inside the trial or
loud outbursts during the testimony.Wagener, 67, said he posts updates on the trial on Facebook and YouTube and has sold rights to videos he made during Jackson's 2005 criminal trial. He said if he's banned from the trial, it will hurt his ability to
cover the case. He said being in the courtroom is the only way to hear
the inflection of lawyers and witnesses and get a full sense of the
proceedings.Earlier, in a videotaped testimony, one of Jackson's former physicians described how in 2002 he placed an implant in Jackson's
abdomen to block the effects of opioid medications such as Demerol.Dr. Alimorad Farschcian said Jackson told him that he wanted to stop taking Demerol for the sake of his children. The Miami-based physician
became close to the entertainer after treating him for a sprained ankle,
spending time at Neverland Ranch and meeting Jackson's mother on
Christmas Day in 2002.Farschcian said the implant kept the singer off of Demerol for at least nine months and Jackson's mother Katherine seemed pleased when he
described it to her and her son showed her the device.Katherine Jackson testified on Monday that she never saw the device and could never prove her son abused prescription medications.The Jackson family matriarch is suing AEG Live, claiming it negligently hired another doctor, Conrad Murray, who was convicted of
administering Jackson a fatal dose of anesthetic in 2009. No trace of
Demerol was found in Jackson's system when he died.AEG Live denies it hired Murray, and its attorneys have said Jackson hid his addiction struggles, and the company bears no responsibility for
his death.Superior Court Judge Yvette Palazuelos said she would consult with another judge about how to handle
Wagener and the photo of jurors. Lol, was that you Sweet?
is this accurate? i thought none was found. :icon_e_confused:
The article actually says, "No trace of Demerol was found in Jackson's system when he died."
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« on: July 25, 2013, 10:22:20 AM »
No ones gonna come at you Aussie. I'd settle to know for sure if he's in an actual jail cell.
Sorry @Charissa...but this is the way I first read your post. Oh to be cursed with a love of toilet humour at my age... :icon_redface:
If Murray had anything "explosive" in his arse
Made me think of the TMZ article about Conrad's trouble digesting the "cat food" he is forced to eat in there.
OK...sorry people ...I promise to be good now.
lol @RK. I completely understand. Just this morning a colleague sent me an email with a pic that was captioned: "If my body was a car, I'd trade it in on a newer model, 'cause every time I cough or sneeze, my radiator leaks and my exhaust backfires." Here's to us 'older folks' & our toilet humor, lol. :beerchug:
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« on: July 25, 2013, 10:09:08 AM »
"Consider this as an imminent nuclear warning. Enough is enough. I have no further tolerance for lies, your deception, nor your insolence. If your calumny persists, none of you will have to guess who is coming to dinner, and that’s at the court house"
To me, I dunno, JMO, this is clearly MJ speaking. I feel silly saying this. I really do, but its days like today, after reading the kind of things quoted above, that I half expect Connie to peel off his prosthetic mask to reveal Mr Jackson...
I know we entertained it seriously, ages ago. Then we dismissed it. Then we entertained it again abt 6 months ago, going on to find 2 CMs, veins and weird things on his face, and pictures that really pointed towards a prosthetic. Then we all laughed and dismissed it. Honestly, (and I hope I don't get beat up for this) some days I can't shake the thought that CM is MJ... *cringe*
I know he is on a figurative level. But sometimes, the ol "CM is MJ is disguise" gets me.
Ok. Come @ me....
lol
I don't know about the whole MJ is Connie thing, but honestly, if you go back and listen to Murray's past statements, this really doesn't sound like his manner of speech. As an act of desperation, to save their suddenly sinking ship & floundering case (after witnesses turn & reveal truths they'd rather not be revealed), AEG demands that Murray be called to testify and in a surprising and shocking revelation, when it's not Murray, but Michael who appears the truth to all of this is revealed?  Vindication?? Or, someone is blowing smoke up people's asses with this teaser???
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« on: July 25, 2013, 10:01:36 AM »
If Rowe testifies against Michael she will lose her 2 sons Paris and Prince, that's for sure.
Or, she'll gain their respect for telling the truth, regardless of what it is. I'm sorry, but Michael is a human being - subject to faults and problems as is every human being. He wasn't perfect and who better to present him as human than the mother of his children? He admitted to having had a dependency on pain medication during the time frame she's set to testify about, and he admitted to seeking help for that dependency. There's absolutely no shame in that at all. I believe Debbie is the perfect person to put it all into perspective because 1. She's a nurse & has a working knowledge of the subject., 2. She was familiar with his treatments., 3. She was his friend, wife, lover and mother of his children (Michael trusted her)., 4. She's no bullshitter.
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« on: July 25, 2013, 09:54:23 AM »
Debbie's testimony in the 2005 trial was supposed to be against MJ but she ended up defending him so I'm thinking her testimony won't be as TMZ says (what's expected) with this trial either.
That's EXACTLY what I thought. If Debbie does testify that MJ was a drug addict, I'm sure it's what MJ wants her to say, even if it seems counter-inituative. But Debbie has proven to be unwaveringly loyal to MJ. I don't expect that to change now.
Yep......very first thought I had too. Looking forward to Debbie kicking some ass if she testifies. She's always been a straight shooter and I've respected her for it. I'm recalling her putting that rude TA in his place time and time again ( besides...she has the most wonderful ranch full of dogs and horses...how could I not like her)
I agree. Say what you will about DR; she's not afraid to speak her mind, even when it makes her out to be the bad guy (re: relinquishing parental rights) and to call out BS said about Michael. She's been one of the very few to staunchly defend him in life and death.
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« on: July 25, 2013, 09:49:30 AM »
Damn Connie. Just spit it out man. I'm certain we can handle the truth. We've been waiting long enough to hear it.
I won't say he absolutely will not testify, but I'll be very surprised if he does. If Murray had anything "explosive" in his arsenal, he'd have used it to save his own ass from imprisonment. Maybe a tell all book when he's released? Why not? Nearly everyone who'd ever met Michael when he was "alive" wrote one following his "death".
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« on: July 25, 2013, 09:34:31 AM »
Murray’s talk is more like him extending an invitation, a dare, to have him testify. Regarding TMZ, considering the article was first posted at the start of the trial, they appear to be fanning the flames by re-posting it.
And Murray’s claim of MJ having severed family ties. Why? To proceed with the death hoax with as few knowing about it as possible (in order to maintain authentic reactions and secrecy)? :animal0017:
Yes, this is interesting
That makes sense.
The only things needed to make an inmate testify is a subpoena and a ride to the courthouse.
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« on: July 22, 2013, 05:26:51 PM »
Finkelstein? Sounds like a made up movie name... hahahaa :LolLolLolLol:
It's not. Stuart Finklestein is a real doctor.
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« on: July 22, 2013, 05:24:43 PM »
"Bent fingers when taking the oath indicates someone who is going to bend the truth."
I wonder what that body language guy who's done all those Youtube vids would say about this. Is it a commonly held idea?
Whatever, I find it 'interesting' that ABC7Court noticed and tweeted that little detail.
Or, arthritis??
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