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A person dependent on medication IS a drug addict. Medication=drug, dependency=addict. "Dependent on medication" is a nice way of saying "drug addict" but let's not kid ourselves, it's the exact same animal.

I really can't agree with that. It would almost be like saying diabetics who are dependent on insulin are drug addicts. One way of describing dependency is that the body can't function normally without the drug, or go into withdrawl without it. An addict may also have dependency, but a dependent isn't necessarily an addict.
It's hard to explain, so i'll pull up some info..

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so jacaranda, you suggesting that this letter shows MJ had a desire not to be on demerol, does that mean you actually think that he WAS a drug addict?  :icon_e_confused:

Taking a medicine for a complaint, and developing a dependancy on it, does not make someone a drug addict.
So no, that's not what i'm saying.
IF the letter is genuine, then it shows, at that time, that Mj had developed a dependancy on demerol, he was not
ok with that, and sought to do something about it. So good on him. If he was in pain, for whatever reason,
he has every right to have something prescribed to him, to help combat that pain. Same as anyone else.
And he could develop dependancy. Same as anyone else. It's not uncommon to end up dependant on any opioid analgesic
and can happen damn fast too.
IF this was the case then he should be afforded understanding and support, not be vilified for it.
There's nothing dirty or scandalous about it.

The letter is either:
Genuine, and leaked by MJ
Bullshit, and leaked by MJ
Genuine, leaked by other
Bullshit, leaked by other

And sinse theres not really any way of knowing which of those it is, I personally think it's more useful
to question WHY it surfaced when it did. Like I said, at that time, the media was full of 'demerol was cause of death' stuff,
for example:

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Then this letter appeared shortly after that. Media say demerol, letter says Anti-demerol. (whether the letter is genuine or not,
has no bearing on it, It's ANTI demerol).
So i'm saying, based on the content and the timing, it's a possiblity that it was simply released in answer to the
accusation that mj was a demerol addict and it caused his death. If that makes sense. ??
Sorry if i'm doing a shit job of explaining what i mean.

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On the surface of it, this letter appears to be hoaxy because of the phrases used, the boldening of parts and the seemingly
unproffesional tone it is written in. I've spent some hours getting to know a bit more about Dr Farshchian. It would seem from his patient
testimonials that they recieve a proffessional service, whilst being treated almost like family or at least a family friend, it all seems very
friendly and laid back. He appears to be a bit of a character.

What we don't know is how well aquainted Mj and the Dr were. I would say if they were on friendly terms, then it is not outside the realms of
possibility that Dr Farshchain wrote this and that it is genuine correspondance. Even though the letter is strange. It could be a case of the Dr being
friendly, encouraging, maybe laying it on a bit thick, or just plain old sucking up. (you are an icon/belong to the tops)
U aint seen Nothin' yet is in quotations, and he is clearly quoting mj. The first time (that i know of) that mj used that phrase was at the wma's in 2000.
It does seem strange that the Dr would quote something mj had said 2 year previous, but hey he coulda been watching mj footage at any time, the same
as the rest of us. It's also possible that Mj used this phrase in convo with the Dr.
 
This is it. <--- ok that ones a little scary, but it IS a common phrase. This is it..the answer to your problem, the solution, the doc just putting emphasis on what he is proposing? Possibly.
Second chapter. This letter isn't Dr Farshchians only mention of Mj's 'second chapter'.
This is from examiner.com 0ctober 2011...
Michael’s friend and confidante, Dr. A.J. Farschchian told Dr. Drew, “Michael Jackson himself is being way over-exaggerated. Health wise, everything you hear about.
Michael was actually afraid of medication.”
Dr. Farschchian said Michael believed physicians had a great amount of knowledge. “He would listen to them and he would trust them … Michael Jackson started his
second chapter of life in 2000 to 2003. He was very active and going to studios every day,”

Dr Farshchian founded the Center for Regenerative medicine in 2000. On healthgrades.com his specialities are listed as orthopedics and Family Practice.
Wikapedia notes that by 2001 Dr Farshchian limited his practice to non surgical orthopedics and sports medicine.

If this letter, written july 21 2002 (the date i find suspect, 7's) is genuine, I dont think it has anything to do with orthopedics (though i could see Mj having non surgical treatment to ailing joints)
The reason being, when TMZ stated 'the doctor refers in his letter to a "5-7 day program that offers you the solution". The doctor does not explain the program'.. that wasn't exactly true. At some point they posted another page of that letter ..




The 5-7 day programme was to be 5-7 days of outpatient buprenex injections before moving on to some kind of blocking therapy, to overcome a demerol dependancy, in a way that would be more private and less traumatic than other options. (the privacy angle may be why the Dr wrote this on a sunday, i assume from his home, rather from a practice with staff). If real, that is.

Personally i dont think there's anything actually hidden in this letter. Genuine or not.

My questions would be.. Who gave this letter to TMZ and for what purpose?

The biggest message i get from this letter is that it shows Mj had a desire to not be dependant on demerol, and if he actually was, sought help and advise to
rectify that, which is in contrast to pretty much everything in the media (especially around the time this letter surfaced) which painted Mj as crazed drug addict who died of a demerol overdose.
So I personally think that was the purpose of this letter going public.

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More recent; post 6/25/09 to my knowledge.
Yeah. TMZ posted the pic of the letter and Mj's handwritten note about buprenex/demerol
on 10th july 2009. I think that was it's first appearance.

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: July 01, 2012, 05:14:37 AM »
Quote from: mindseye

Thinking about the 1221 time, will Oct28, 2012 be significant?...1221 days from d-day.

Personally, i think so.
Depends on how you count though. If you do this inclusively (counting start and end date) 27th oct is 1221 days from d-day.
Then maybe add a simmer day, 28th.
It's not just the 1221 days that has me thinking this though. Back said the theory of 7 officially begins on 26th Oct 2006.
Maybe add a simmer day, 27th.. go forward 7 years (inclusively, 06,07,08,09,10,11,12) .. 27th oct 2012. now we've landed on another date does another simmer day get added? 28th oct 2012? The reason i wonder about the 28th also stems from TII being released 28th oct 09, and Murray due for release on 28th oct 2013. Of course if you don't count the 7 years of theory inclusively you land at 2013 also.
We know Back was talking about years coz he said tHE nEW 7 (dAY) tHEORY. Day being in brackets tells you it wasn't days and nothing happened with regards to the theory in monthly terms. Also he was spot on with 3 years.. something written (etched) in the theory of 7, 72 hours previous. (72 hours = 3 days = 3 years). 25th june 06 of course being 3 years previous to d-day. And just like he said of the theory, not easy to translate, but over time, and looking back on it, .. definately clearer.
So yeah, i would say 27th/28th Oct.. 2012/2013 is significant. At least in theory.  :icon_lol:

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: June 28, 2012, 05:26:05 AM »
Strange painting. Ravens tend to be linked with death, or more like the prophecy of death. They are also known as
great tricksters. Knowledgeable enough to trick their opponents and get away with it. Also linked with magic in most traditions.

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I must admit, i'm feeling really conflicted today. I feel like i need to cry but i'm fighting it.
Giving in to tears seems like the wrong thing to do after all we've learnt this past 3 years, but on
the other hand, not allowing myself to shed a tear on this day seems wrong too. If that makes sense.
Mix that in with feeling hopeful and kinda excited about the journey going forward, well,
it's a pretty odd place to be emotionally.  :icon_e_confused:  :icon_neutral:


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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: June 07, 2012, 07:20:04 AM »
Quote from: RK}
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I may be wrong, but I think it was placed perfectly in position on that album. Track 6 is DS...7 Money and 8 is Come Together.
I look at it as MJ pointing out Sneddon was sent after him because of the love of money....namely the money that the Beatles catalogue was worth.  Michael choosing to put Come Together right there after calling out sneddon and those who will do anything to gain money, is maybe a big kiss my ass...I'll do what ever I want with what I own type of statement. After all the crap MJ had endured in '93, I see this as him holding this up and saying...still mine. I own it.  Sure reads that way to me.  [/color]

Yeah that's a very good point. That seems like the most logical reason for why it is where it is.

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: June 07, 2012, 06:11:39 AM »
Ah. I'm glad 'Come Together' came up because something about this has been bugging me for ages. Aside from the photos of mj in the 'come together' shirt etc being placed either side of coffin at 'burial'....
Has anyone noticed how it's placement on HIStory seems to be at odds with the rest of the album?
What i mean is.. CD 1 - HIStory begins, is made up of previous songs, ranging from 1979 to 1992, then CD 2- HIStory continues,
is the 'new stuff' all recorded 1994/1995 ish. So what's 'come together' doing slap bang in the middle of HIStory continues? Surely that belongs
to CD 1, belonging to 1988/moonwalker, or even when it appeared as a B side to 'remember the time' ...that was 1992, so still should be on CD 1, just as 'remember the time' is.  :suspect:

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: June 01, 2012, 10:12:59 AM »
Happy 1st forum birthday Front! (hmm, or should that be happy 1st anniversary)?  :icon_e_confused:
I've chosen the following song for your gift. I think it's perfect! Enjoy!  :icon_e_wink:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcFTjWOdg8M[/youtube]

With love.

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The Murder Theory / Re: My theory on the murder/killing of MJ
« on: May 31, 2012, 04:28:25 PM »
Yeah, I understand exactly what you are saying. Could very well have been one seed of many planted in the grand ruse.  :icon_e_smile:
But then i don't doubt that there were people who were out to get him in one way or another. And if he actually did fear for his life..it still works.
Not a dumb theory at all.

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I feel really uncomfortable having viewed this note. I mean, surely not every little thing is hoax related, and i struggle to see a reason why
this would be. Other than it demonstrates that Michael was considerate towards his health and is a handwriting sample... but is there not far less intrusive ways in which that could be put forth without the use of a personal note between 2 people? and plenty of handwriting 'out there' already. I dunno, It doesn't seem right to me. I just can't help feeling bad that even a simple, personal,  note to someone can't be kept private. It pisses me off. And if Mj had nothing to do with this becoming public, I would imagine he'ld be pissed off aswell, to say the least.

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@ sim,
You know, i think you are onto something with the spirals/ golden ratio stuff. When i've been playing with circles/time/pi, i keep coming back to spirals, it's backs galaxy/spiral pic that had me doing that. I just get the feeling that spirals, or a spiral, fits into all this somehow. Just cant begin to figure out how..i'm not sure if thats because my stupid brain refuses to grasp maths or because i've lost the plot and am barking up the wrong tree. Either way, it's bugging me.  :icon_rolleyes:

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: May 24, 2012, 03:11:57 AM »
Quote from: mindseye
@Jacaranda got me thinking of 21 and the 12/22 date...and MJ's # and Murray's booking # again. I don't get the intergers math ... but the colors also came up when googled these numbers. So out of curiosity I looked at it.
@mindseye, I think its probably coincidence that the number minus the s comes up as something to do with numbers and maths. I went down the colour route too. didn't get anything out of it. Personally I think its more notable that the number adds up to 21.

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: May 23, 2012, 03:30:04 PM »
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Jacaranda... was this number mentioned in past threads?   SA 073164   07…3+4 …6+1 = 777

Front help!!! before I go number crazy again.  :icon_lol:

Dunno but i know what that number is.. it was on death pic. played with that too. I dropped the S sinse 'S' has been an extra before lol (pains), then googled it and got a page of a directory of intergers or something. didn't know what to make of that or do with that so left it alone !
I flunked maths big time  :icon_eek:

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