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Random MJ Talk / Re: The official "goodbye" thread
« on: July 07, 2010, 07:52:35 AM »
I think that's me done too. I was pretty sure at first that he was still alive, due to all the weird things that didn't make sense or add up.  And sure, those weird things are still there and unexplained.  But I just think there are other possible explanations for them (which we are possibly unaware of), other than a hoax.  I'd love Mike to still be alive and even more, for him to come back as an entertainer.  But my hope of that has dwindled away. I've really enjoyed reading some of the threads here, and feel I have learnt a lot. But now, some of the posts I've been reading on here lately, just seem like clutching at straws for a connection to Mike. (ie. suggesting other celebs deaths are also a hoax and may be linked to MJ's) :? .  I don't have an opinion on Karen Faye, I don't know what her intentions are, but I agree with her on one thing... some people here, are twisting anything and everything they can, to support the idea that Mike has planned all this and is alive somewhere.  I really hope u are all proved right.. but for my own sanity, I've accepted that Mike has passed and I hope justice is served to whoever(s) is responsible.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Michael Jackson's grave to be moved?
« on: May 22, 2010, 12:24:05 PM »
If and that's a very big 'if' he is dead, I think he is buried somewhere completely different (maybe at neverland all along, hence the concrete delivery) or somewhere else.  Would also explain why the family or close friends haven't been seen at forest lawn.  And the Forest Lawn site was just used as a decoy, to keep wherever he really is, private.

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Hoax Pictures / Re: *Post some TII Photos here*
« on: February 27, 2010, 09:26:15 AM »
Quote from: "awesome1"
yea they say that it wasnt done but when they show how the number would have looked with the red smoke from the stage, they do show mike on the stage in the silver jacket..... so it must have been done.  
It was definitely rehearsed, as fans who were outside during rehearsals heard him practising it.  There were youtube videos of them stood outside listening to it and u can clearly hear him singing it.  So god knows why Kenny says they never got to rehearse it?!

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Quote from: "msteetee34"
It shows there were punctures on his toes as well.  I never heard of someone injecting themselves in their toes.
Injecting around/between the toes is quite common in those regularly injecting drugs.  Amy Winehouse for example is reported to have commonly injected between her toes, as she'd over used the veins in her arms etc.

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The Ambulance / Re: Ambulance leaves mj's - different view
« on: February 11, 2010, 04:22:58 PM »
I read that security etc. followed in the cars behind.  Can't remember where I read it though.

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The Coroner and Autopsy Report / Re: The Autopsy Part 2
« on: February 10, 2010, 06:17:39 PM »
I've just posted this on another topic about the autopsy report, so thought I would post here too incase it's any help...

 I've just spent the past hour and a bit reading through the autopsy report, with a medical professional relative. They agreed that some points seemed to contradict each other, but noted a few things which particularly stood out to them...

1. The autopsy mentions a 1.5cm globulated mass located in the left adrenal gland and also a 0.2cm mass in the right kidney (neither of which should be there). She pointed out that if these masses were malignent, it is possible that they had spread from one to the other (meaning the person who was autopsied had a form of cancer which had started to spread. However, she did say that there is just as much chance these masses could have been benign (not cancerous). But the point she was making was, it was extremely strange that these masses/tumours were not investigated/discussed further, when the rest of the autopsy went into so much detail.

2. Also, she found it odd that with so much detail was given on the poor condition of the lungs, them being inflamed etc. Although it states this wasn't severe enough to be the cause of death, she pointed out that someone who suffered it to that extent, would show obvious effects of it in day to day life. i.e. would not be able to sing and dance, like MJ did on the This Is It DVD.

So it is not just novices, that are noticing strange things in the report. :lol:

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Some General Observations
« on: February 10, 2010, 06:11:22 PM »
Meant to say... I've just spent the past hour and a bit reading through the autopsy report, with a medical professional relative.  They agreed that some points seemed to contradict each other, but noted a few things which particularly stood out to them...

1. The autopsy mentions a 1.5cm globulated mass located in the left adrenal gland and also a 0.2cm mass in the right kidney (neither of which should be there).  She pointed out that if these masses were malignent, it is possible that they had spread from one to the other (meaning the person who was autopsied had a form of cancer which had started to spread.  However, she did say that there is just as much chance these masses could have been benign (not cancerous).  But the point she was making was, it was extremely strange that these masses/tumours were not investigated/discussed further, when the rest of the autopsy went into so much detail.

2. Also, she found it odd that with so much detail was given on the poor condition of the lungs, them being inflamed etc.  Although it states this wasn't severe enough to be the cause of death, she pointed out that someone who suffered it to that extent, would show obvious effects of it in day to day life.  i.e. would not be able to sing and dance, like MJ did on the This Is It DVD.

So it is not just novices, that are noticing strange things in the report. :lol:

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Some General Observations
« on: February 10, 2010, 06:04:10 PM »
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Quote from: "KingMJ"
Quote from: "lisap27"
i agree with this 100% the condom catheter stuck out to me, why would he need this, also the incontinent sheet on the bed, so basically what they are saying that once he was asleep he peed himself, REALLY COME ON!!
When under anaesthetic, your muscles relax (Including the bladder).  Catheters are often used for this reason.  I can only go by personal experience.. my auntie was 'put under' and they catheterised her and she was always on top of soil pads.  When I asked why, they mentioned the above.   It's also one of the reasons why if you are going to have a general anaesthetic, they ask you not to drink/eat for upto 12hrs beforehand.
but isnt this process painful or uncomfortable, to do this every night, the cure would seem to be just as bad as the problem, was mike out most of the day and night then?
As someone mentioned somewhere (could be a different thread) there are two types of catheters.  The one MJ supposedly has on, was a condom catheter.  You just put it on like a condom, as the name suggests.  Which is obviously painless and simple, unlike the other type to insert.  But I don't quite understand why he needed one to be honest.  Hope that helps  :)

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The Coroner and Autopsy Report / Re: The Autopsy Part 2
« on: February 10, 2010, 04:29:58 PM »
I've been told by someone who works in a hospital, that he would have been put in the hospital gown when he arrived at UCLA (presumably after they pronounced him dead, as I can't see them wasting time putting that on, instead of trying to revive him).  It doesn't mean he was wearing one at his house! As a side note, my auntie had her clothes cut off her and a gown put on, when she arrived unconscious at hospital.  To enable easy access for doctors, and also for some modesty.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Some General Observations
« on: February 10, 2010, 03:00:21 PM »
Quote from: "lisap27"
i agree with this 100% the condom catheter stuck out to me, why would he need this, also the incontinent sheet on the bed, so basically what they are saying that once he was asleep he peed himself, REALLY COME ON!!
When under anaesthetic, your muscles relax (Including the bladder).  Catheters are often used for this reason.  I can only go by personal experience.. my auntie was 'put under' and they catheterised her and she was always on top of soil pads.  When I asked why, they mentioned the above.   It's also one of the reasons why if you are going to have a general anaesthetic, they ask you not to drink/eat for upto 12hrs beforehand.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Some General Observations
« on: February 10, 2010, 10:48:05 AM »
Quote from: "tklein1014"
I wonder if the terminally ill patient was bearded...autopsy report says the subject's face was unshaven...?
Surely that's correct though?...he came in late at night, went to bed and never woke up... so he was going to be unshaven.  It's not like he got up, had a shower and a shave and was then murdered/faked his death.

Also, in regards to the talk about the external catheter.. Has it been confirmed that Murray put this on before anything went wrong?!! Or is it not possible that this was put on after the paramedics arrived or when he arrived at UCLA?  When my auntie was rushed to hospital unconscious, one of the 1st things they did with her was catheterise her.  As when u are unconscious, u have no control over bladder functions. :?:

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The Coroner and Autopsy Report / Re: The Autopsy Part 2
« on: February 09, 2010, 04:34:19 PM »
Surely they couldn't have used the DL posted above as it has expired, so isn't even a valid form of ID.  Did Mike have a more recent DL that was still in date??  Also, to the poster above, who said they buried him in white sheets because of what was written in the autopsy... that doesn't mean he was buried in white sheets/towels.. they could have either covered his outfit up, with just his hairline and hands exposed like it states, or waited to dress him and make him up, until after all the samples and tests had been done. :?:

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Michael Jackson News / Re: our dear kind Michael must be gone
« on: February 09, 2010, 02:11:36 PM »
Quote from: "CC"
Quote from: "KingMJ"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Ive just read the full autopsy report and i am in utter tears of despair and sadness.
Same. :cry:

did you see THIS IS IT?
how in he world the man look like he looks in the movie and died the next day????
he is alive!!! WAKE UP!!!
READ PAGE 24 OF THE AUTOPSY , AND IN THE 37 DOESN´T SAY THE NAME IN THE REPORT... :?
Yes, I did see This Is It thankyou.  I'm perfectly healthy today, but if I was given the drugs MJ was given by Murray, I'd sure as hell be dead tomorrow too.  Noone knows anything for fact, he could be gone, just as much as he could still be here.

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Dr. Conrad Murray / Re: Who said Dr Murray was only treating for 6 weeks?
« on: February 09, 2010, 01:09:21 PM »
I just read something on twitter saying Murray had been visiting him for 8months?! But it didn't say, where this info came from. This is too confusing.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: our dear kind Michael must be gone
« on: February 08, 2010, 05:29:13 PM »
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Ive just read the full autopsy report and i am in utter tears of despair and sadness.
Same. :cry:

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