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« on: November 25, 2011, 03:58:55 AM »
Adams apple, sideburns under the hair, muscular forearms, and MJ eyes that someone earlier enhanced through the sunglasses. I'm not 100% convinced but I'm still open to it being him.
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Actually I thought her side profile looked more like Deborah Brazil, just with long hair.
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« on: November 15, 2011, 08:00:11 PM »
Tito did confirm in an interview that she did the makeup. I think she of all people would know if she was working of Michael's body. She was his makeup artist for a few decades and then again for the few months prior to June 25. I'm sure she has a familiarity with Michaels face that many of us here don't. So, since the family have confirmed she did do this, then she would in my opinion have to be in the know. No matter how others feel about Karen, her story of events leading to Michael's reported death have been consistent over the last 2 years, unlike most others.
Both Ortega & Phillips changed their stories regarding Michaels health while on the stand. Don't forget, when they were promoting TII the were all saying how great and healthy and strong Michael was. Ortega's email at the trial confirms this was not so and he was concerned for Michael's health & state of mind.
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« on: November 09, 2011, 08:33:19 PM »
Well, why didn't he say all this in court then???
Because he probably sold "exclusive rights" to the story, hence the reason he never spoke in court. Probably was a contractual condition conducive to payment or he could of forefited the rights to payment if he spoke out prior. Don't know. Just guessing, but it's seems like it's all about $$$$$
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« on: November 09, 2011, 01:11:32 AM »
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11/8/2011 1:00 AM PST BY TMZ STAFF
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TMZ has obtained an excerpt of a never-before-seen documentary starring You are not allowed to view links.
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The documentary -- titled, "Michael Jackson and The Doctor: A Fatal Friendship" -- was shot while Murray awaited trial for manslaughter ... and features a shockingly candid look at the preparation of the trial, which includes intense fighting between Murray's lawyers.
The movie is being distributed by a company called Zodiac Rights ... which says it's already pre-sold the rights to air the documentary to "major broadcasters around the world."
Sources tell TMZ ... NBC is one of the broadcasters ... and will air the doc in the United States.
As for Dr. Murray -- he signed on to the project back in 2009, following MJ's death. It's unclear how much cash Murray is set to make from the movie.
Oh MY 8-) let's see some info about this ZODIAC COMPANY.
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Zodiak Rights is the international distribution rights business of Zodiak Media Group. The company specialises in worldwide television and home entertainment distribution and all aspects of licensing, with highly experienced sales teams in London and Paris. The business is split into three divisions Zodiak Rights (London), Zodiak Rights (Paris) and Zodiak Kids.
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Then if you will go o their site and do some research you will get this 2 PROGRAMMES,about Murray:
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1. Dr Conrad Murray Interview
Popular Factual
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Exclusive news interview with Dr. Conrad Murray revealing more about his unique relationship with Michael Jackson.
Zodiak Rights has international rights to an exclusive news interview with Dr Murray, which was conducted by the UK broadcaster Steve Hewlett on 30 October 2011 (one week before the conclusion of the trial of Dr Murray for the Involuntary Manslaughter of Michael Jackson). This is the only interview Dr Murray will conduct, and is available for broadcast immediately after the documentary has transmitted worldwide.
2. Michael Jackson & The Doctor: A Fatal Friendship
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This powerful, exclusive access documentary goes behind the scenes to reveal the fatal relationship between Michael Jackson and his personal doctor Conrad Murray.
Soon after the trial of Dr Conrad Murray returned a guilty verdict for the involuntary manslaughter of Michael Jackson, this enthralling and dramatic film explores the relationship between the King of Pop and his personal physician, with exclusive access to Dr Murray and his defence team.
For two years the documentary team filmed secretly with Murray and followed him throughout the trial itself, behind the glare of the public spotlight.
Only now does Murray break his silence, recounting his relationship with Jackson, his relationship with the powerful drug Propofol, and the events of the day Jackson died: fascinating and exclusive testimony.
The film also explores the private and surreal world of Jackson where the controversial use of powerful medication was a way of life, where a man adored by millions lived as a virtual recluse, where an unknown cardiologist from Texas found himself the unexpected companion, confidante and intimate to one of the most famous men in the world.
When Michael Jackson died on June 25th, 2009 only two people were in the room: Jackson and Dr Conrad Murray.
This documentary uncovers the fatal friendship behind the headlines and reveals the chain of events that led to one man dead and the other fighting for his reputation and freedom :shock: 8-).
October Films (2010)
Can anyone get a clear closeup of whose looking out the window in the background?
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« on: November 05, 2011, 01:40:43 AM »
Michael was training with Lou Ferigno, there is no way that is Michael's body, where are the muscles.. He is a dancer, I am sure he continue dancing even if he did not perform.. No muscle mass, nothing. Just a plain straight body.. That is not Michael's body..
Muscle mass requires an excess of calories. And alot at that. My husband and son weight train and have been doing so for a number of years. I started only 2 years ago, mainly for strength and body composition. It takes alot of dedication and hard work. According to those around him Michael wasn't eating much. It's impossible to build any noticeable visual muscle mass on the body without the excess of calories and the lifting of heavy weights on a regular basis. It also takes alot more time than the few months Michael was reportedly working out with Lou for. These things combined with adequate rest between workouts to allow the muscles time to grow and repair themselves are required to build muscle mass. Doing only one without the other will not give you any results. Michael danced alot also for rehesearls and day to day which would of burnt up most of the calories he did consumed anyway, leaving nothing for new growth of the muscles. Eating too little and dancing too much would produce a body similar to the one we see in the autopsy picture.
I know about body mass, my son is in body building competition, and I have been on a diet excersice I have lost 150 lbs. Protein is the key word. I know deep down Michael is eating well, Lou Ferigno said it himself. He was in great shape. I refuse to believe that, that is Michael's body in that gurney. He is still suppose to have some muscles at least like the picture he was coming out of the pool. This is not Michael.
My husband is a Lecturer but also a trainer too, so I understand what your saying. Muscle Mass is lost with age, unless you do the correct exercising and eating to maintain it. Especially for a 50 year old. It's very rare for anyone to look like they did 20 or more years ago like the pic of Michael coming out of the pool unless he's put the required effort into keeping that look for all these years. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing as to whether Michael is on that gurney or not. I'm saying that over training (ie working out and dancing plus undereating most definitely produces the body you see on the gurney). Seen a number of my husbands clients who look like that when they have come to him for help. It was also reported that Michael ate vegetarian and organic alot. I know he did eat meat sometimes (obviously the KFC is well known). People who mostly eat that way need more specialised diets to ensure adequate intake of correct nutrients to ensure muscle growth. Unless he supplemented his diet with protein sources, again his muscle mass would of been minimal. My husband is also a natural bodybuilder and trains people this way too. I'm assuming if Michael was working out he more than likely would be the same. It's even more harder for a natural builder to gain and maintain than someone who uses steriods. Like I said, not debating whether it is or isn't Michael.
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« on: November 04, 2011, 01:44:43 AM »
Michael was training with Lou Ferigno, there is no way that is Michael's body, where are the muscles.. He is a dancer, I am sure he continue dancing even if he did not perform.. No muscle mass, nothing. Just a plain straight body.. That is not Michael's body..
Muscle mass requires an excess of calories. And alot at that. My husband and son weight train and have been doing so for a number of years. I started only 2 years ago, mainly for strength and body composition. It takes alot of dedication and hard work. According to those around him Michael wasn't eating much. It's impossible to build any noticeable visual muscle mass on the body without the excess of calories and the lifting of heavy weights on a regular basis. It also takes alot more time than the few months Michael was reportedly working out with Lou for. These things combined with adequate rest between workouts to allow the muscles time to grow and repair themselves are required to build muscle mass. Doing only one without the other will not give you any results. Michael danced alot also for rehesearls and day to day which would of burnt up most of the calories he did consumed anyway, leaving nothing for new growth of the muscles. Eating too little and dancing too much would produce a body similar to the one we see in the autopsy picture.
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« on: November 03, 2011, 06:30:18 PM »
Thanks so much for posting this. Just finished watching it. It was quite sad at times but really think it was done well. Thanks again.
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« on: November 02, 2011, 09:35:53 PM »
I'm trying the 'light' version now - still freezing as I type so going back to 'full fat'!
Had the same problem. This is the first time I've been able to post in the last 3 days. Switch over to chrome like others have suggested. It works like a breeze for me now. Before it wouldn't load the pages properly. Scrolling up and down didn't work properly either and my computer froze continously. Tried using the light version, but still had the same amount of problems. Can be frustrating. Try chrome if you can. Hopefully it will help
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« on: October 26, 2011, 03:03:34 AM »
I think Just remembered something. This girl who we're talking about was on FB chatting about her night with MJ and her profile pic was the one supposedly taken that night. She added me to her "friends" list, as per my request, but when I asked her about whether she had gone to the police with what could be very important information, she deleted me. WTF??
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« on: October 24, 2011, 12:12:46 AM »
I wonder what's making her return so abruptly.
Maybe because now it's the defence's turn and they are probably going to try and drag Michael through the mud so to speak. This will be hard I'm sure for them to have to go through and the kids. I'm sure they will hear things that could be upsetting and hurtful (whether truthful or not). Also the family went into the house prior to the house been seen as a crime scene and 2nd search. The defence could implicate the family in something or planting/removing items of importance. Don't know. Just a thought.
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« on: October 22, 2011, 01:46:06 AM »
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This is 10th times I am posting this info, really people? Conrad Robert Murray license exists on medical board and was suspended. I am not saying I give up on hoax theory over the trial, maybe whoever the defendant is not doctor Conrad Murray, I don't know, but the licensed cardiologist Murray is out there.
| PATIENT CARE - 40+ HOURS
RESEARCH - NO HOURS
TEACHING - 1 TO 9 HOURS
ADMINISTRATION - 40+ HOURS
OTHER - 10 TO 19 HOURS
| | Primary Practice Location Zip Code: | 89119 | | Board Certification(s): | No board certifications identified | | Primary Practice Area(s): | CARDIOLOGY
| | Secondary Practice Area(s): | INTERNAL MEDICINE
| | Post Graduate Training Years: | 9+ YEARS | | Ethnic Background: | Declined to Disclose | | Foreign Language(s): | Declined to Disclose | | Gender: | Declined to Disclose |
| ![Expand/Collapse]() G 71169 Licensee may be a U.S. or Canadian medical school graduate whose pathway to licensure was based on the NBME examination. | | License Type: | Physician and Surgeon | | Name: | CONRAD ROBERT MURRAY, M.D. | | Address of Record: | ![Expand/Collapse]() PO BOX 72216
LAS VEGAS, NV 89170 | | Address of Record County: | OUT OF STATE | | License Status: | Licensee has been suspended. No practice is permitted. | | Public Record Action(s): | Licensee's practice has been temporarily restricted or limited pursuant to a court order. Licensee was reprimanded for a minor violation(s) of the law. This is considered disciplinary action. Another state or the federal govenment has disciplined licensee. | | Original Issue Date: | April 22, 1991 | | Expiration Date: | February 28, 2011 | | School Name: | MEHARRY MEDICAL COLLEGE SCHOOL OF MEDICINE | | Year Graduated: | 1989 |
Yes I agree. He is a real person. He is not Robert Earl Carter. He is Conrad Murray. I too have checked the licence info you posted here over 2 years ago as well as reading through his intellius files etc. Conrad Murray is a real person with a real licence.
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« on: October 09, 2011, 06:22:05 PM »
Well now... looks like those photo's have been removed from Louise's page! Hmm... saw them all on Friday, there were a few of them with the Avrizo's boys and a lady that looked like Diane with the microphone at the wedding. I hope someone took screenshots. Too late, a majority of fans saw those pics already!
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« on: October 09, 2011, 06:14:33 PM »
I saw this on Friday. This was posted on the other forum too, taken from facebook. The facebook link is to the persons actual page to show the pic's are really legit. The snippet below is what someone posted to Sam De Gossen's page and linked the info there. "For those who was wondering what had happened to Gavin here he is with his brother Star enjoy the wedding of Ron Zonen and Louise Palanker last weekend . Ron Zonen was a district attorney in the 2005 trial. He managed to take photos of the genitalia of Michael as evidence. Meanwhile Palanker testified for the prosecution. Zonen is a friend of Sneddon and who else but Diane Dimond could be able to complete the picture of the family? All smiling...make me sick! Take it as further proof of a real conspiracy against Michael by these despicable characters. Gavin would be in a tomb had he not been saved by Michael!!!!!!! THEY ALL MAKE ME PUKE!!!!!!!!!!!!! DAMN THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: October 06, 2011, 06:02:49 PM »
If anyone grabbed a screenshot of Exhibit AA, PLEASE post it.
Thanks.
With L.O.V.E. always.
Here you go.
Is that a picture of the a young Lisa Marie?
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« on: October 06, 2011, 02:41:47 AM »
unless he wanted to lighten someone elses skin, to look more like Michael, or is that just rediculous lolol/
Nope, not ridiculous. I've always believed that if indeed this is a hoax, then someone did die that day. It would be necessary for that person to appear to have vitiligo.
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