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Random MJ Talk / Re: Robin Gibb is in a Coma
« on: April 16, 2012, 07:33:04 PM »
 :icon_cry:
"Don't cry alone" - what a tragedy! Performed by Robin only recently. He was full of hope and new energy for his project "The Titanic Requiem".
His brother Barry and Michael singing together: " All in your name", an amazing song, with Michael singing like an angel.
Praying and hoping for a wonder, but seeing Robin's wife leaving the hospital in despair is heart-breaking.



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The Hoax Mentioned In The Media / Re: Media Offer from Wonderwall Magazine
« on: February 15, 2011, 11:03:11 PM »
@Souza: Reading your draft and your answer made me aware of your seriousness and your goodwill to get the message out. I trust you in making the right decision, as we don't have all the knowledge and background infomation needed for a responsible way of handling specific measures. And even if you should fail, you are willing and courageous enough to admit a mistake. Sometimes we know more when a situation has been tested, one way or the other. We can't predict the future.
I feel you would protect Michael with all your heart and would never betray him by letting the wrong people know where his hiding place is if you found out. No member here of this forum would either and if you had a suspicion you would find ways to stop them from spreading it.
Being someone who starts printing a new magazine might be an advantage, because the person(s) doing it could still be passionate in what they are doing. We don't know his agenda yet and as "truth-searchers" are critical and ready to fight against any media trying to take advantage of Michael for their own good.
You are as well and I am sure you are able to find out very quickly if the offered platform is the wrong or right one or if it has to be rejected for good. I am glad to see you are listening to what is expressed in this thread and not only here. Your energy is amazing, and nothing is to be taken for granted, but as humans we have to protect our health from time to time in order not to get too exhausted. So please take good care of yourself and try to get more sleep or rest. You are needed and without you and your guidance it is not the same. The MJKITForum -Intermezzo wasn't fun. The hoax has changed and influenced our lives in many ways, all of us, who have observed the inconsistencies from a very early stage. We must never forget what has led us to this place. We all share a common goal and are driven by a force within. It is difficult to give it a proper suitable name. Feeling for justice, longing for truth. I don't really know myself what it is. What I know and remember is the time without any forum: deep sadness about a loss, so strong and overwhelming. You could ask yourself, maybe you did already, why out of all people, you were chosen to be what you are now: the administrator of a forum, which gave many lost members a 'home' so to speak in a time of grief to be able to cope and gradually to get stronger. A non-believer cannot imagine the inner rollercoaster state of mind we have been in and no end in sight.
We don't know what has happened, where he is, what he would like or not, if he can decide himself or not, not what only the family says, but he himself, that's the problem for me.
To be careful who to trust doesn't harm and if we all take a close look at things to come we sometimes learn from others who express concerns.
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The unknown monster is about to embark
from a far corner, out of the dark
If I may quote your signature, only meant in general from my point of view, to be alert in the real-life thriller of the MJ-hoax, we never know what is next to surprise us. Positive, I hope. But believing and hoping is not necessarily knowing, no proof at all. Let's keep the faith!

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The Hoax Mentioned In The Media / Re: Media Offer from Wonderwall Magazine
« on: February 15, 2011, 08:57:23 PM »
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
:lol: joke's on him if thinks we know where michael is.

You are so right. If nobody of this community and all the other existing ones haven't yet found out, how shall an editor of a newly founded magazine be able to update his 'current whereabouts' in each issue.
His hiding place (wherever it is) is well protected and here at least nobody can help out with the latest sightings. No chance  ;)

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The Hoax Mentioned In The Media / Re: Media Offer from Wonderwall Magazine
« on: February 15, 2011, 08:32:10 PM »
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... Attached are some unedited samples of Issue 1.p If there are mistakes I appologize, they will be fixed. I read all the material on your site and was blown away and completely shocked. I would love to provide you and your team of writers with a platform in Wonderwall Magazine where we will publish in sections, the truth behind the "The Jackson Consiracy". We go to print every other month and can continue the story each month and even have a permanent column specifically for Michael called "The Jackson Files" that follows the story and any new information involved with his life and current whereabouts will be updated each issue. ... If it is ok with you, we can layout and bring life to the amazing writing already published on your site, give full credit to the writer and post it on our site with your link attached. (wonderwallmagazine.com) You also can write new material as the story progresses. ...

They say they "will publish ... the truth behind 'The Jackson Consiracy' " using material from the forum that already exists. "... bring life to the amazing writing already published on your site ... " ... "and post it on our site with your link attached.  (wonderwallmagazine.com) ...".  ... "You also can write new material as the story progresses ... "


 
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I can promise you the article will not be edited or changed. Only grammar and spelling will be checked. I completely understand and will let you see the article before we go to print. We are in the process of getting high end advertisers like Jack Daniels, Cricket and other clothing ads.
If I try to understand the email, I get the following. It is just my personal opinion and impression and is not intended to criticize any well-meant writing in any way:
- the editor's team is not yet a large one in numbers, either he is the only writer or has a small team of writers, growing in numbers (the magazine may not get a lot of publicity then if only read by a few, which is not negative, just a statement. There is a lot of competition and you need something special to attract readers attention)
- in the beginning only existing forum members' contributions will be used without being edited or changed, only grammar and spelling will be checked (the new magazine needs articles to get more volume and to attract more sponsors who pay for ads; the editor may not recogognize members' mistakes? The editor is not an American writer, but from abroad?)
- later on new articles can be written, but not for a start (he is not sure yet if people will write new articles for him and his magazine)
- the email-writer is going to publish them in the magazine called wonderwallmagazine.com, not WonderWall ... (there may be no difference, but one member here made us aware of the different spelling)
- he puts a lot of emphasis on getting money for ads from sponsors who can pay well (I know that printing and publishing a magazine costs much money, but I am a little surprised to read it from the start. I wonder what the main aim is: to find out the truth about a conspiracy or to make money, or to make money to be able to make the truth more public to a wider audience or a mixture of it?) This forum doesn't have any ads, whereas a magazine has to sell to be able to exist. If you have ads and sponsors, they can have influence on what you write or they choose other magazines. You may lose your independence.
- News of Michael Jackson's life and his current whereabouts will be published and updated in each issue. What does that mean? Would Michael want this? Gossip about his life? It is not quite clear what news shall be included. Tabloid style or serious investigation? If he should still be in danger, would an update of his current whereabouts not endanger his life?
There remain some questions and it's a difference to voice one's opinion on a forum site or in a magazine. But as members' opinions are not taken into consideration when it comes to a final decision it doesn't really matter what some members' concerns are. The idea itself sounds good if the other side is serious and only articles appear which respect the vulnerability of Michael's eventual precarious situation, and if only those write there who chose to do so. They are legally responsible for their texts in a magazine. I personally would prefer if they wrote as individuals (like bloggers expressing opinions) and not as forum members referring back to a forum. The idea of taking money from a magazine for writing articles (even if intended for charity) or providing articles is not transparent enough, I think.

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Pictures & Videos of Michael / Re: What is Michael Holding in his Hand?
« on: February 13, 2011, 05:53:45 PM »
It is a piece of chalk in a little transparent plastik box to prevent your hands and clothes from getting dusty from chalk dust. Only a small part of chalk on top to be able to write on the board (here on the wall).
If you don't use it your black suit will get white from the dust.
Comparable to a lipstick which disappears after usage or you would smear your clothes or handbag with the lipstick's color.
So that's my guess: Michael doesn't want his hands and clothes to be covered with white chalk dust and uses not just chalk, but the more elegant version.  :idea:  :P
I just see the answer has already been found out by anewfan. Riddle solved then.

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The Resistance / Re: Steadfast TRUTH. Mubarak STEPS DOWN
« on: February 11, 2011, 09:05:01 PM »
TS' quote "
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...Better to ultimately die with the Truth, than to live with a lie...
one day before Mubarak's stepping down from power came into my mind again when I saw a picture in today's news where two men were sitting under and in front of a tank with fear in their eyes, but hope to stop the tank from rolling further, killing them.  A totalitarian regime, oppressing and torturing its own people for years,  made them forget and overcome their fear of being killed by a rolling tank. Their desire for more freedom and a change in government gave them strength to try to resist with nothing more than their bodies without a weapon, just sitting there. It is only one example representative for many others who would have even sacrificed their lives for the fight for freedom and democracy.
Watching Mubarak's speech for long 16 minutes, left me thinking. He has talked for such a long time to his people, but what did he say to them? NOTHING but shallow words, not to be trusted.
The people of Egypt must have been disappointed and angry.
The next day his time was over.
It is to be hoped that the vacuum until free elections is not filled by another dictatorial regime, and all fighting had been in vain.

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI February 10
« on: February 10, 2011, 10:01:50 PM »
Quote from: "Gema"
Deep quote.

Eliza knows her truth, but somehow this quote is also meant for what has happened with the hacking of the forum?

Sometimes the truth is hidden behind closed doors and remains there forever.
We shall probably never get to know her truth. We may believe her, but are not allowed to dig deeper for the known reasons.
The redirect was chosen on the first day of the re-appearing of the hacked forum and it is about the truth in contrast to lies. There was a division for all to see, as one administrator left the building, leaving those, searching for the truth in the hoax, alone, for private reasons, explained in a letter. What we believe is up to us, but as we don't know the truth, we can only speculate. It might have been better to have been united in harmony and double strength, but it can't be changed and as we have seen, a complicated situation can be mastered with a lot of energy.
Whoever did the hacking must have had the intention to divide and cause trouble and pain for someone else. Not everybody has a rhinozerus skin all of the time.
Many here are truth-seekers and they won't give up until they come near the truth as close as possible.
The journey is not over yet and more is to come, when the trial starts. I really hope the truth shall prevail one day. It happened so many times, even OJ Simpson finally didn't get away with everything. A very long breath is needed in some cases.
The quote is quite complicated and can be applied to other fields as well. The people in Egypt at the moment were silenced for a while when the internet was blocked for them. Someone wanted the truth to be hidden, so they should not be able to communicate with each other.
A lot of truth is to be found on this forum, too, and it may not be in the interest of some what has already been found out. If they succeed in dividing a community, could be a possible motive for deleting information.

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MJDHI Announcements / Re: Forum back up
« on: February 10, 2011, 07:13:50 PM »
Not always easy to keep the faith! But there is light at the end of the dark tunnel: Resurrection of a forum after a relatively short time. Not like the other one in the old days - lost forever. Great to see, nearly everything still there in its old glory. What a mess and hard work. Thank you for the perseverance and dedication to keep it going.

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI January 27
« on: January 27, 2011, 10:34:57 PM »
The passage is about justice and faith and not to lose courage. A parable of a judge is used in the original text who finally decides to get a woman justice, but was unfair in his judgement before.
The judgement in Eliza's case seemed devastating for her, yet it may have been necessary for Elvis' safety as a Federal Agent, and his enemies not to be able to find his location easily with all the personal difficulties involved for him and his family.
She may have wanted too much and gone a little bit too far. Elvis had not given her permission to use his DNA (licking the envelope) for a court trial in which he was afraid of being exposed and forced to have his life plan destroyed. She was asked (by him) to stop and didn't. It is a delicate situation for a "dead" person to have to deal with court proceedings. The court's refusal to deal with the case should have been known from the start. Lawyers should be familiar with it one would assume.
One day justice will be procured for her as well in another way not yet revealed, in a form not dangerous for the one and satisfactory for the other which could be a fair solution.
He certainly has saved many lives by his work undercover and needs protection in return.
As you can't always "get what you want" in life, she might get what she "needs" at another time in her life and will understand "God's plan" afterwards.
It is difficult to judge in a case like this and we don't know the reasoning behind it.
Both rights have to be counterbalanced and the outcome has to be taken into account.
Broken dreams for many of us, too. How great it would have been to know Elvis being alive and officially documented by a court ruling. Again, if we still don't lose faith, we'll have to wait and hope for better news in the future.
The DNA is not disputed as invalid, which is good news.
Of course I would have liked Eliza to win the case (if Elvis had agreed to it), but it was not meant to be.
What has to happen to diminish the danger for him to reappear (he may prefer to stay in hiding)?
The same applies to Michael.
Rebbie's words give a glimpse of hope when she says all will be revealed in the coming weeks.

The redirect can be understood to give hope in a time of despair when men are at their wits' end and see no light at the end of the tunnel, although the light exists.
The answer to the question of Jesus' listeners "Who can be saved?" is given by Jesus: "Those things that are impossible on man's part are possible with God."
In court and on the high seas one is in God's hands is used as a proverb.
If something is in God's hands, it is beyond our control and fate will decide the outcome.

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI January 16
« on: January 21, 2011, 07:10:50 AM »
No matter who chooses these redirects. They are educational or controversial or otherwise interesting, and even if we don't agree with the person or their character flaws described, we can come to new ideas and conclusions.
It was Michael again, who warned us of how history can be twisted in books, they can be as manipulative as persons.
Many -isms, ideologies are man-made and partial. It is never wrong to ask for the motives behind them.

With many of the ones on a pedestral, when taken to the ground, their earthly colors show. They didn't always live up to their public image and to what they preached. We don't know all the abyss of their lives and the evil or less evil connections they had. Our life is too short to study it all.
Some of their achievements in life are not to be denied, character is another side of their personalities.
Wherever you look there is a dark spot in many a biography, be it Martin Luther with or without King, the Kennedys, Billy Clinton and others. We have been deceived and lied to many times.
The problems start, when humans are powerful in society by their words and they fight against one oppression as they perceive it, but don't see themselves as oppressors in other fields of life, where they do more or less the same, without realizing their responsibility and impact on generations to come.

Jesus had to be sent into this world to present us a humble human being to take the sin of the world on his shoulders symbolically, he had to die and be resurrected again. His example has endured over the centuries. The Magdalene theme (the female sinner under the cruzifix) is interesting in this context and the Holy Gral with all its conspiracy involved.
But that is a completely new chapter.

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI January 16
« on: January 21, 2011, 03:29:09 AM »
Michael's mentioning of Martin Luther (without the addition King) is a reference to Martin Luther King only in my opinion. I cannot imagine he would have thought of Martin Luther, the reformer. That is why I do not believe TS is Michael or Elvis, but someone else. Michael was well-read, and Martin Luther is certainly not the best example of a role model for human rights and humanity in relation to other opinions and their acceptance. He was lacking tolerance and was preaching hate against people of other faith than his own, especially in his later years.  

To say he was a child of his time is too easy. We all are formed by the time and circumstances we live in.
But we are given a free will to decide one way or the other. ML had this choice as well. He judged a group of people in a prejudiced way, without having had direct personal contact. They were like the pestilence for him just because they existed and had to be extinguished like vermin. Very dangerous ideas. What did the official church say to this? Has there been a cover-up? Silence can be interpretated as acceptance.

Another reformer at that time was Calvin, who, despite having been just a little less totalitarian than ML all in all, nonetheless was for witch-hunting and torturing them or branding men as heretics.

Michael Servetus, a humanitarian and freethinker, ahead of his time, was a victim of Calvin, who helped burn him at the stake for his belief. He is an example of how it was possible even in difficult times to think different and remain free of guilt in the name of religion, which had been misused so many times in history.

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Sorry for double post, but one quote in first post was wrong, I edited. it was my own and not Bonita's.

Quote from: "onemoretime"
Quote from: "bonita"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "bonita"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "bonita"
I get the whole "ahhh they are taking away my rights" thing and people have the fear of being controlled. I like my freedom but this is just a bunch of bs. Like the government CARES WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONLINE.  The government is made up of people (monkeys) like YOU and ME and I think that literally somebody could be looking up "how to make an atomic bomb" online and nothing would even happen to them!
Oooh sorry for my radical point of view. And if something like this were to happen it would be for a DAMN good reason such as terrorism etc.
Sorry, but that's really naive. Your opinion and that's fine, but if I were you I would catch up a little on what is discussed here.

I will never disrespect you Souza and I would have hoped that you could have done the same.
I did not disrespect you, please reread my post. I called you naive, and that is not meant disrespectful. My opinion is that your comment is actually very naive and to me it shows that you have no idea of what is going on in the world. That's fine and I could have said nothing, but I would rather have you opened your eyes on this as well, for your own sake.

Ok, I understand that it wasn't intended that way but you should know this; calling somebody NAIVE will not make them think the way that you want. On the contrary, it will make them more resistant to opening their minds. I am a very open minded person and calling people names, especially when you do not personally know who they are, is disrespectful.

I think we should resist as much as we can to total control of the web and the individual using it. Stop the beginnings before it is too late. It all starts without the masses realizing at once and gradually step by step you're trapped. A warning can only be meant well and if one wouldn't care, you would be addressed in a less direct way and you would be told in the softest voice ever not to be afraid, all is well, it is all for your best. You don't have anything to hide, is the most common one. But that is not the point. The information collected can serve many purposes, and certainly not in our best interest.
Freedom doesn't come for free, it has been a long struggle over the centuries, and nothing can be taken for granted, especially not freedom. We will cherish it most, when we have lost it. Freedom is very precious and not everyone is lucky to have it.
They can't introduce it if enough people resist their wicked agenda, because they fear not being elected again. That is what they fear most - losing control and power. The constituents are powerful if they use their rights to say NO to some BS, their governments want to introduce.

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TMZ Articles / Re: Dr. still smiling
« on: January 20, 2011, 06:24:12 PM »
Who is he accompanied by?
Murray can live like a playboy, is women's darling, fathers children, doesn't pay for them, but buys balloons for othed kids.  His trouserpockets are always full, he is sponsered by a sports shoe firm, and they don't seem to bother, he is a doctor, aha.
Who finances his lifestyle? Well, should he be the actor in a movie, he may just have a day off at the set, chilling.
He can sit there grinning at the world into the camera without looking like a murderer who helped killing the most famous performer of all times, no regret about anything.
I must admit it happens occasionally that people accused of a crime look that strange, not realizing themselves what is happening to them, as they are living in their own insane world.
He can do whatever he wants, no restrictions. The judicial system as a farce.

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General Hoax Talk / Re: If Conrad Murray is convicted...
« on: January 20, 2011, 05:55:58 PM »
Quote from: "Le Papillon Bleu"
I still won't believe he's there in the prison...he can get behind the bars in front of the cameras and without cameras he can use the back door...free.

Until now everything about Murray looks unreal to me. If he is convicted he will go to a place where he can write a book, but I even doubt he can write properly, as he can't even speak without being ridiculous and clumsy. He has a role to play. Which one I am not yet quite sure.
I would be surprised to see him handcuffed, going to jail with real bars.
What interests me more is the fact that the FBI caught a big fish in New York, among them Gambino mob members. If they are convicted I am beginning to think, a lot is going on behind the scenes.
Will they be running around the same way Murray does or have court procedures the Pastor way with toy and flower? We shall see.

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Quote from: "bonita"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "bonita"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "bonita"
I get the whole "ahhh they are taking away my rights" thing and people have the fear of being controlled. I like my freedom but this is just a bunch of bs. Like the government CARES WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT ONLINE.  The government is made up of people (monkeys) like YOU and ME and I think that literally somebody could be looking up "how to make an atomic bomb" online and nothing would even happen to them!
Oooh sorry for my radical point of view. And if something like this were to happen it would be for a DAMN good reason such as terrorism etc.
Sorry, but that's really naive. Your opinion and that's fine, but if I were you I would catch up a little on what is discussed here.

I will never disrespect you Souza and I would have hoped that you could have done the same.
I did not disrespect you, please reread my post. I called you naive, and that is not meant disrespectful. My opinion is that your comment is actually very naive and to me it shows that you have no idea of what is going on in the world. That's fine and I could have said nothing, but I would rather have you opened your eyes on this as well, for your own sake.


I think we should resist as much as we can to total control of the web and the individual using it.

Ok, I understand that it wasn't intended that way but you should know this; calling somebody NAIVE will not make them think the way that you want. On the contrary, it will make them more resistant to opening their minds. I am a very open minded person and calling people names, especially when you do not personally know who they are, is disrespectful.

I think we should resist as much as we can to total control of the web and the individual using it. Stop the beginnings before it is too late. It all starts without the masses realizing at once and gradually step by step you're trapped. A warning can only be meant well and if one wouldn't care, you would be addressed in a less direct way and you would be told in the softest voice ever not to be afraid, all is well, it is all for your best. You don't have anything to hide, is the most common one. But that is not the point. The information collected can serve many purposes, and certainly not in our best interest.
Freedom doesn't come for free, it has been a long struggle over the centuries, and nothing can be taken for granted, especially not freedom. We will cherish it most, when we have lost it. Freedom is very precious and not everyone is lucky to have it.
They can't introduce it if enough people resist their wicked agenda, because they fear not being elected again. That is what they fear most - losing control and power. The constituents are powerful if they use their rights to say NO to some BS, their governments want to introduce.

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