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Other Odd Things / Re: The Real Meaning of "Cassandra" Gretchen?
« on: June 01, 2010, 05:10:25 AM »
Quote from: "rag doll"
Quote from: "BeLLini"
Hello guys!.. i hope this has not been posted before but.. ok today i was reading some economics book (yeah boring) and i saw that Cassandra was actually a terminology.. not just a name.. so when i read the meaning of the word i thought it makes complete sense with mike's hoax!!... i'll paste you here what the dictionary says about "Cassandra" !! =)

Cassandra Greek Mythology
a daughter of the Trojan king Priam, who was given the gift of prophecy by Apollo. When she cheated him, however, he turned this into a curse by causing her prophecies, though true, to be disbelieved.

mm so is about a prophecy that is true.. but people disbelieves it! like the hoax!!!

what do u think! =)

Kisses and lots of love to all of u!

I must admid I´ve never kept up with her. But the connection you make has something...
Do you think the "Gretchen" could refer to Goethe´s Faust?
Just a thought...


YES! i think you might be right!!... why not!? it does make some sense... i had heard of this tragic play but had never paid really attention to it.. but now that im reading what is it about it does make some sense! look
lets list a summary of the facts and try to unfold it together....

CHARACTERS:
Heinricherson Faust, a scholar, sometimes said to be based on the real life of Johann Georg Faust, or on Jacob Bidermann's dramatized account of the Legend of the Doctor of Paris, Cenodoxus
Mephistopheles, a Devil
Gretchen, Faust's love (short for Margarete; Goethe uses both forms)
Marthe, Gretchen's neighbour
Valentin, Gretchen's brother
Wagner, Faust's famulus

1. The play has two parts: Tragedy one and Tragedy two (maybe before the hoax and after the hoax?) and quoting wikipedia: Part One, Faust remains unsatisfied; the ultimate conclusion of the tragedy and the outcome of the wagers are only revealed in Faust Part Two. The first part represents the "small world" and takes place in Faust's own local, temporal milieu. In contrast, Part Two takes place in the "wide world" or macrocosmos. --> so this kind of makes total sense with the hoax... before the hoax we were living in our own world, not really caring for the "cosmos" of the whole... he is trying to make us aware that the whole planet is interconnected and that we need to act all together... look beyond our small lil realities.. look for towards the whole world escenario... is all interconnected (nwo, environmental distruction, sustainability... all these things are multidisciplinary and involve a biig variety of people/ disciplines/ across borders, nationalities etc) ok dont really need to explain more i think the summary of each part by wikipedia is clear enough and we can make the connections on our own
 
2. First Scene First Part:  Mephistopheles makes a bet with God: he says that he can deflect God's favourite human being (Faust), who is striving to learn everything that can be known, away from righteous pursuits --> illuminati trying to control Mike?

3. Second Scene First Part: Takes place in Faust's study where Faust, despairing at the vanity of scientific, humanitarian and religious learning, turns to magic for the showering of infinite knowledge. He suspects, however, that his attempts are failing. Frustrated, he ponders suicide, but rejects it as he hears the echo of nearby Easter celebrations begin. He goes for a walk with his assistant Wagner and is followed home by a stray poodle --> Faust study? mikes room?? where he ponders suicide but rejects it (fakes his death maybe)

4. In Faust's study, the poodle transforms into the devil (Mephistopheles). Faust makes an arrangement with the devil: the devil will do everything that Faust wants while he is here on Earth, and in exchange Faust will serve the devil in Hell. Faust's arrangement is that if during the time while Mephistopheles is serving Faust --> Maybe Mikes raise to fame by the illuminati's intention of using him to spread their message while "giving him everything? -fame, money, etc?- so he will get all this from them as long as he "serves the devil in hell' (spreads their message)...

5. When the devil tells Faust to sign the pact with blood, Faust complains that the devil does not trust Faust's word of honor. In the end, Mephistopheles wins the argument and Faust signs the contract with a drop of his own blood.

6. Faust has a few excursions and then meets Margaret (also known as Gretchen). He is attracted to her and with jewelry and help from a neighbor, Marthe, the devil draws Gretchen into Faust's arms. Faust seduces Gretchen and they sleep together

7. Gretchen's mother dies from a sleeping potion, administered by Gretchen to obtain privacy so that Faust could visit her. Gretchen discovers she is pregnant. Gretchen's brother condemns Faust, challenges him and falls dead at the hands of Faust and Mephistopheles.

8. Gretchen drowns her illegitimate child and is convicted of the murder. Faust tries to save Gretchen from death by attempting to free her from prison. Finding that they cannot free her, Faust and the devil flee the dungeon, while voices from Heaven announce that Gretchen shall be saved.-->  mm now Gretchen.. what do u think she represent guys? it can represent the planet?.. that we have to save? and we have damaged?

9. PART TWO : in Part Two the romantic story of the first Faust is forgotten, and Faust wakes in a field of fairies to initiate a new cycle of adventures and purpose. The piece consists of five acts (relatively isolated episodes) each representing a different theme. Ultimately, Faust goes to heaven, for he loses only half of the bet. Angels, who arrive as messengers of divine mercy, declare at the end of Act V: "He who strives on and lives to strive/ Can earn redemption still" --> start over again, we can earn redemption by making things right now, we can save the world.---> all the bad will be forgotten if we manage to do things right?????

dunno cant think much more now.. i will continue working on it.. but im sure u guys have much better ideas!? what do u suggest?!

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Other Odd Things / Re: One More Chance
« on: June 01, 2010, 04:09:50 AM »
what if we put them together and make a whole song out of the three versions of them .. wouldnt it look like something like this? (ive added what i would believe as a possible interpretation but please help me out.. if you have any better opinion or idea!!)..

What do u think?


Everybody loves the star when he is on top (when he was delivering the msg and on top of being a super star) but no one comes around when he starts to drop (when he got “off message” and he started being attacked with stupid trials) –anyway it means people is with you in the good moments not in the bad ones-,  but YOU were someone special, you stuck through thick and thin (the fans support after they tried to make him fall and support now after his “Death”) –we fight for the truth at any moment-………. Just remember everything I tell you (the clues, the msgs, the lyrics, the songs), -don’t forget the real reason.. don’t ignore details and don’t forget why we are doing this.. fight for it!- sorry for the pain I caused you (the hoax?), you know its true, I want to stay, I know you tried to make it what it should have been, you were there to help me when i couldn’t have been (maybe the hoaxers now? That r trying to help him when he has no voice anymore??? Or during the trials???)  ……….. everybody’s going around telling you lies (NWO, media etc).. they don’t know how hard I’ve tried, you know it takes the pressure to me to see…………

Uh uh alright this time gonna do my best to make it right, can’t go on without you by my side (spread the MSG I need you to do so) , shelter come and rescue me out of this storm (who will continue? Please finish! How are we gonna do this…) …. Searching for that one who is going to make me a whole (the one that continues spreading the msg? and really understand it Wholly completely in a MULTIMENSIONAL way) help me make these mysteries unfold (EXPOSE THEM NOW, spread the msg, find the clues.. make it known to everyone!)


Waiting for the end of the song with the new incoming version ......????

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Other Odd Things / Re: One More Chance
« on: May 26, 2010, 04:02:38 AM »
as many chances as u need mike! :D we love u!! hehehe

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Other Odd Things / Re: The Real Meaning of "Cassandra" Gretchen?
« on: May 26, 2010, 04:00:11 AM »
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "michaelsupporter"
She always seemed to avoid my questions too.....that frustrated me and still does. However, I hope she is what she claims to be.

Maybe it's not even a "her"  I'm pretty sure that's not the real name of that person, exactly like the fake picture of her/him, whatever


of course thats not her real name.. and we r not even sure is actually a "her".. or that she even exists.. is the "meaning of the character's name" what sounds so interesting.. is like if its just another straight clue to the hoax!!! :)    ;)

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Other Odd Things / The Real Meaning of "Cassandra" Gretchen?
« on: May 24, 2010, 09:35:55 AM »
Hello guys!.. i hope this has not been posted before but.. ok today i was reading some economics book (yeah boring) and i saw that Cassandra was actually a terminology.. not just a name.. so when i read the meaning of the word i thought it makes complete sense with mike's hoax!!... i'll paste you here what the dictionary says about "Cassandra" !! =)

Cassandra Greek Mythology
a daughter of the Trojan king Priam, who was given the gift of prophecy by Apollo. When she cheated him, however, he turned this into a curse by causing her prophecies, though true, to be disbelieved.

mm so is about a prophecy that is true.. but people disbelieves it! like the hoax!!!

what do u think! =)

Kisses and lots of love to all of u!

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Other Odd Things / Re: michael jackson alive forum?
« on: March 25, 2010, 06:08:32 AM »
mmm ok that might be.. but then.. do u think the date is random? or it may have some meaning... just saying.. let see

29 05 (May) 2009 that makes --> 11 05 11 (two elevens? like in the uri geller drawing for Michaels album?)
 or
 
if we add all the date together... we get.. 2+9+5+2+9 = 27 = 2+7 = 9 (something illuminati related)?  

i mean still i find is a suspicious blog since the administrator is following it.. or else there wouldnt be new posts because he has to accept them.. but he is not replying for anything...

Any other ideas guys? ... comments?!!! =)

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Other Odd Things / michael jackson alive forum?
« on: March 23, 2010, 06:24:46 PM »
Ey guys! i have been visiting this page for long time but i had completely forgotten to ask you if anyyy one has an idea of what is this about...  

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as u see there is this blog... which was created on may 29th 2009 which claims that michael jackson is dead..

Michael Jackson is dead!!
By admin on May 29, 2009 | In Background | 24 feedbacks »

O MY GOD Michael Jackson the king of pop is dead what do you think about it?


i have written there months ago.. and the way it works is that u send ur msg and it must be approved by an admon and ur msg appears there few days later.. so someone is behind it and reading... but is never answering! ..

could it be part of the hoax? (some one slipped up?..) or... some server mistake with the date? dunno!!.. any ideas?

 take a look!!! ull find many interesting details!

Heal the world!!..

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General Hoax Talk / Re: La Toya: my brother IS not a freak?!
« on: February 15, 2010, 02:57:33 PM »
and well there is not verified of la toya.. and from all the accounts is the only one that has been tweeting regularly. :?

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General Hoax Talk / @La_Toya_Jackson
« on: February 15, 2010, 02:27:13 PM »
Ey Guys! was going through twitter and look what i came up with in La Toya's twitter few mins ago:

La_Toya_Jackson
Okay. My Brother Is Certainly Not A Freak. Stop Saying That He Is!
24 minutes ago from web


hahah curious that he IS not a freak and WAS not a Freak! huh?

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This Is It / Re: "THE MAN" Clue..??
« on: February 14, 2010, 02:19:51 PM »
eyyy amazing video!!!! hadnt watched it!! i think it says it all!!!!  :D

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References & Similarities / Re: Michael in a coma?
« on: February 13, 2010, 04:18:11 PM »
yes i have seen it before too.. but there is something that really doesnt convince me for the explanation of KO mistake in the memorial.. the blog says that when KO says: - "we were here just last week” is in reference to him and the TII dancers already beginning rehearsals on something Michael would be proud of-.However if you watch the video in youtube Kenny doesnt say only: "we were here, were all here  a little less than a week ago".. HE ACTUALLY SAYS: we were here, we were all here, a little less than a week ago, and MICHAEL WAS WITH US. So... making that "lil mistake" the fact Michael being there.. changes everything for the coma idea  in my opinion.  Unless it was an honest mistake from Kenny Of course (which it doesnt look like to me!) and he really didnt notice that he said that a week before he was right there with MJ.
Dunno what do you think? i mean the coma theory has actually good arguments.. but to me thats an important pitfall!.  :D

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This Is It / Re: "THE MAN" Clue..??
« on: February 13, 2010, 03:41:26 PM »
i've started that journey many years ago  ;) .. and it has always been just the way u describe it.. WOW, WOW and more WOW. =) thats Michael.

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The Coroner and Autopsy Report / Re: MJs FULL AUTOPSY REPORT?
« on: February 13, 2010, 12:29:30 PM »
ur absolutely right. guess i just got momentarily shooked up! =) i believe!  :D loved to hear what u said. :)

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This Is It / "THE MAN" Clue..??
« on: February 13, 2010, 11:39:19 AM »
Hey everyone... i might be completely crazy, ive gone through the clues u've posted and didnt see this.. (sorry if its!!).. while i was watching the DVD i noticed that not once, but many times they refer to Mike as "the man".. "the man is here", "this is the man"... and others i cant recall.. do u think this could be a clue if we relate it to the song he recorded with Paul McCartney "The man" ( theres a man who plays the game of life so well.....And is just the way he thought it'd be, cuz the day has come for him to be free... then he laughs, he kicks and rolls up his sleeves... IM ALIVE AND IM HERE FOREVER...)??

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