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Hi guys,

I remember that I read that Murrray said he wanted to "wean" the singer out and that he always used a little dosage help Michael sleep.

So why did he order 250 ml???

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Question:

How can you identify someone who looks old, ill and very pale --- like a "hospice patient" (that's what the paramedics said during the hearing) at the same time identifying this person (UCLA) by his driver's license which is from the 80's?????  :shock:

Can someone pls explain?

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The Ambulance / Ambulance windows not teinted!!
« on: December 02, 2010, 10:08:13 AM »
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Scroll down and you see transparent windows! Who teinted them and who had the time to do this?

Strange ...

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Tohme Tohme / Thome Thome vanished into thin air
« on: October 12, 2010, 09:50:29 AM »
Hi guys,

I already posted this question in other threads but nobody can answer this question: WHERE IS THOME THOME???

And why don't we see any paparazzi pics of him???

The last time I saw him was on the UCLA building following Mike into (?) the heli.
Later on he gave an interview but did not appear on Larry King as announced.

If this is a hoax then he is still with MJ!! Because he ... how did Thome say ... was his "everything".
The conversation between June Gatlin and Michael where he told her that he did a complete check-up on Thome could be some kind of distraction (same goes for the information that he allegedly had fired Thome Thome).
Perhaps the world should think he does not like this Thome guy and even is afraid of him - but perhays they are together and Thome Thome is still organanizing things for MJ ... who knows.

What do you think?
What is the reason that we do not see any pics of Thome Thome?? Paps that are following him on the streets etc.? Thome Thome leaving a building or entering a plane - whatever. But we see nothing. Nada. Rien. Nichts. WHERE IS HE??????????

And I am not the only one ...

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Michael's features, habits & disguises / How can teeth so change?
« on: September 26, 2010, 01:48:06 PM »
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This is a rare interview from 1983. Please watch carefully and tell me ... what happened to Michael's teeth? According to the autopsy report he didn't have artificial teeth or something like this. So what happened??? Who is the guy who died on June 25???

MJ always had these fantastic teeth. Please compare them with the TII Michael and you see that there is a huge difference!

With regard to the hands .. okay, I could imagine that arthritis could be an aspect that leads to "thicker" fingers making them look shorter etc. but the teeth?

I have saved a lot of MJ photos showing this perfect smile and MJ of the last years with this incredible (way too) broad smile (02 guy) and teeth that do not look nothing similar to MJ's teeth from the 80s.
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Other Odd Things / THE HAIR COLOR ISSUE BROWN/BLACK?
« on: July 25, 2010, 09:53:55 AM »
1.     Why does the autopsy report say that MJ has brown hair?

The driver license states: black hair (and they referred to the driver license for identification)

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And as we all know MJ does not look like the MJ on the Drivers License – so how can such a license serve for identification purposes?

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2.   Besides, the driver license states "Joe” and not “Joseph” – so where did they get the name “Joseph” from?
 
Arrrrgssssssssssss – can’t they read or what?

3.   Also, this license expired in 1989. Is there a new one and can anyone post it here?
4.   Why does it read: Facial hair – unshaven (see ambulance photo – I don't see any hair/ beard)
5.   All natural teeth? I doubt this. There is a photo on MJJpictures showing MJ with a small beard and a yellow tie – smiling – and to the right you can see a golden dental crown (I don’t believe that it is a reflection of light)
6.   According to the case report (see above) they have taken fingerprints? Craig Harvey said in his mail they didn’t because it was not necessary. Or was it necessary because they had doubts?

Can anyone enlighten me? Any new information on this?

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UCLA / Unseen video with fire alarm at UCLA
« on: July 25, 2010, 09:50:05 AM »
Unseen video with fire alarm at UCLA

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Here you can see a paramedic with a stretcher/wheelchair going to the fire truck? Or is he going to another place in the hospital in order to pick someone up? The number of the ambulance is 62.

You can see that Fire truck no. 37 is parking in front of UCLA. I thought the fire alarm went off in the neighbor building? One paramedic wants to enter the building but then followed the other one with the wheelchair to the fire truck.

What do you think?

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It is mentioned that the stomach contains 70 grams of dark fluid [alright why this fluid hasn’t been analyzed? What good is an autopsy if they’re going to live substances unknown & unanalyzed?!

At the beginning of the report, it is written no hemorrhage in stomach or elsewhere,  then page 7 says stomach contains 70 gram dark fluid, NOT PROPOFOL as it was stated by Oxman "MJ's stomach and eye lids were full of Propofol".

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dark spots on hands

I find this very weird - any new information on this "dark fluid"?? Why didn't they investigate?

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Other Odd Things / Katherine and the sleeping bags
« on: July 25, 2010, 02:05:56 AM »
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This video shows Katherine while shopping toys (?) and sleeping bags.

1.   Are there no spare beds in her house? She has a lot of grandchildren and even grand grandchildren,  so one would think they stay overnight every now and then. I don't get it. WHY SLEEPING BAGS? Can someone see HOW MANY she bought?

2.   Why did she go herself? She must have been devastated. Why didn’t she send a bodyguard, personnel etc.?

3.   Why was she even capable of doing this? I am a mom myself and if my son would die I couldn’t even stand upright.

4.   Or were the sleeping bags for someone else? Someone who had to hide from the public because he/they couldn't check in a hotel?

What do you think?

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Other Odd Things / Katherine with LaToya in MJ's house! WHY?
« on: July 25, 2010, 02:03:09 AM »
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Hollywood.TV  cameras captured a grief-stricken Katherine Jackson leaving the L.A.-area home of Michael Jackson. Jackson's mother was snapped inside of a car as she left the pop icon's home. (Posted June 28, 2009 11:24:00 AM – 3 days after his „death“)

On Saturday, Janet Jackson also arrived to the home and went straight into the property, where outside two moving trucks were parked and had arrived shortly before.

It supposedly was taken on Saturday, 2 days after his “death”? Why did she go to MJ's house? Any idea? I find it a little weird for a mother who just lost her son and they have removed his things very early.

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Personal trainer Lou Ferrigno speaks out: No signs of tiredness or pain.
How come when MJ supposedly took propofol over a period of 6 weeks every night????

For reference see youtube videos “propofol” – it’s very tough and to awaken from it is very hard:
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The patient says: WAKING UP IS DIFFICULT AND IS PAINFUL

You cannot rehearse when using such a drug. I really don’t believe this propofol story. There are so many people stating that they NEVER saw MJ on drugs etc.

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First Ferrigno thought the cardiac arrest was a JOKE because Mike was so fit!

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If this has already been posted feel free to delete this thread ...

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Joe Jackson to Sue Dr. Murray for Wrongful Death
Originally posted Jun 22nd 2010 3:10 PM PDT by TMZ Staff

TMZ has obtained a copy of a legal document that Joe Jackson has sent to Dr. Conrad Murray -- a prerequisite to filing a wrongful death lawsuit ... in which Joe claims Dr. Murray had been drinking at a strip club hours before he allegedly administered a fatal dose of Propofol to Michael Jackson.

Has anybody seen this:

Page 7:
Before Michael Jackson left rehearsals defendant received a telephone call from Michael Jackson’s associates requesting he go to the Carolwood house to attend to Michael Jackson.

What do you think??? :shock:  Who requested this and why?? Who are these associates?

Page 13: The toxicology report from the Coroner’s Office showed Michael Jackson had Propofol in the vitreous humor of his eye (the clear gel that fills the globe of the eye between the lense and retina). The presence of the drug in the vitreous demonstrated it was administered several hours prior to his death. Defendant’s story was a fabrication.

This is new to me? Has anybody seen this in the toxicology report??

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Forest Lawn won't confirm Michael's burial

I was planning a trip to Los Angeles over the Christmas vacation and was thinking of visiting Michael Jackson's gravesite. I called Forest Lawn and was surprised to find out that they would not aknowledge that Michael Jackson was in fact burried there.   I was in shock, I asked the lady if all the media stuff about the buriel was a sham and she would say nothing.  I told her I watched the TV coverage of the body supposedly being moved to the Masoleum.  She said she had no information on this,  I asked if we could tour the Masoleum and she said no.  Noone was allowed in there and she could not even say if Michael was buried there.   I definatley understand the need for privacy in such matters , but he was the most public of all celibrities.  It really got me thinking ,  exactly what's going on here ,  It really is very mysterious.

                                                                           email recieved Wed, November 18, 2009    DB Sydney

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The DEA is expected to look into whether doctors who prescribed painkillers to Jackson actually saw the entertainer before giving him drugs, as required by law, according to The Times.
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This article is from July 9, 2009!!!

Here's another one:
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Why don't whe hear anything about the work of the DEA?
Who are the 16 doctors who allegedly had given prescription drugs to Mike?  :evil:

All articles are from July 2009 as if someone leaked this to the internet/media and afterwards nothing/nada!  :evil:
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Has anyone of you NEW information on this matter??

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Frank Dileo / We want MJ look like an idiot! It's good to do it!
« on: July 18, 2010, 04:34:04 AM »
= a statement from di Leo

Unbelievable!  :evil:
From Katherine Jackson's book: My family, the Jacksons

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Katherine was upset that di Leo had played up stories to the press. She confronted him before MJ went to Japan ... "You shouldn't be spreading stuff like this. It makes my son look like an idiot!"

Di Leo responded by saying ... "Oh, it's good to do it. It makes people wonder about him - and this is what we want".

Di Leo = another nail in MJ's coffin  :twisted:

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