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Found this article , will give  better insight of forensic medicine

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/1680257-overview

There are  situations in our life when we are undecided whether to stay or to go , speak or shouldnt speak, act or not to act but when it somes to injustice I cant contain my self , now I know its time when people are more aware of things but at the same time I believe they are misguided more then ever before and its time to stand for truth together

last week read about Rickey martin revealing his private life and his two sons through surrogate mothers , its his life, his choice, good for him.... but what sadden me  most Barbara Walter expressed her repent for pushing him so hard to admit  it .Does she feel the same for Micheal ? Is it any different from Blanket born surrogate?
There are still few people from  media  writing about Micheal and transgendernism , is Dr Klein the news source??do we really need to know his preferences ?  the truth is vitiligo  patients use camouflage makeup to  cover up blotches .  just a side note  if they dont know it .Show some respect and escape guilty feeling by stop writing junk and spare his children .

I read a book author actually  suggesting  Micheal a  chronic alcoholic taking benzodiazepines for alcohol withdrawl symptoms , the auther took this information from various random  articles by physician on withdrawl symptoms but  why cant they take  pain to do full research instead of just manipuating and  messing up medical  knowledge twisting things for personal benefit  distarcting people from truth ??  the fact is ,for a patient on chronic benzodiazepines,its strongly adviced to cut down alcohol,  these two together interact and do havoc
Some of Dr murray collagues call it no big deal to administer Cpr on bed something physicians do iteveryday in acute emergencies , so true we do we do it  on  special "CPR"-BED beds in ER not those regular one , sometimes the patient is  almost dead on arrival  and cpr is given right there on stretcher  ,but by doing it with one hand beneath the chest and  compressions  delievered  with other,  is that the idea  of bringing heart rhythum  back and help circulating oxygen where did he get it from  ???
now when i just learn he did it for first time i m speechless had it been a Gynecologist an Opthamologist its a different story all together but for a Cardiologist  :shock: , dont we start learning it in early days of our final year of medical school ? and to those collagues who actually justify him dont they know when a patient found breathing on his own there is no even need of Cpr  ,all they want is  an immidiate call for help , now by helping few random patients what is he trying to prove himself  an angle or an excuse for his ignorance ???

I dont want to talk about dr klein he is way too sick , how come  both Murray and Klein forget those doctors who dedicated their entire life to their patients , all of physician are of the same opinion that they should hang  their heads in shame for making our profession look ugly which is respected by all in all times .....

Like many of you i strongly believe in hoax  as many things donot add up ..not at all ... but  when  i heard of the trials soon to began next month ,im thinking the other way around and as the time goes by i m sligtly worried and concern why would the family, judges , attorney would  waste their time , sorry for sounding negative but does some one  else thinks the same way ???

i  came to forum after 72 hrs , didnt expect all that . i read the autopsy report and the fine details donot look fake , no doctor will ever risk their job to release it .no matter what its not possible
im  goin through mix emotions. why and how he could do this why he came back after living peaceful life but then things happen for reason , he hadbeen through a very hard time in his life , most of these months i was getting hurt why he had to suffer but found peace after reading this

"" He whome Allah intends good , he makes him to suffer some affliction  ""

crying happy tears for you michael , you are  not only  successful  in  this life but life thereafter , but i wish so dearly  i could have saved your life ,i wish ....
please members take very good care
with all my love best wishes

GODBLESS

i just got a reply from  a lawyer practicing in california asking him the possibilty of starting a negotiation before  dr murray would surrender himeself   and his reply  is

you can always plea bargain with govt so long as government is willing to negotiate

i wonna ask to all those who have seen jacksonfamily dynasty  show.were there any scenes from funeral other than telecast  live on sept 3rd ? i thought may be they will  show  some extra footage for their  reality show like how they went from their home to forest lawn. family emotions ,preparations ,guest coming etc  etc
but i think none o members discussed about it and that made me wonder what were those lights and camera doing at funeral??? got my point???

i have one last question , the ambulance glasses are tinted  even the person inside  cannot look outside , how  is it possible to take a sharp short i know  that photographer said we use  special  lights and cameras  but if its
true ,can sme one please confirm this to me

i asked in my various post the very same question but i didnt get any replies that why i m writing it down one more time in a hope to get one answer .
dr murray was giving him drug to aid sleep , no one was allowed to go upstairs , if someone lets say hire dr murray to kill mj ( supposrting the murder theory) How they got to know he was having it everynite? not even the sibling knew mj was on propofol its was too   confidential  but then who behind the murder ???? anyone  suspicious on  ur  list???

i know this date is the most debatable one  as why mj chose this specific day , but i want to know who was pronounced dead on 25th first  ??? farah or mj ? if farah then may be mj chose that random day  knowing that media and the world would becoveing  farah s death and plans were made at the eleventh hour   this could explain all the inconsistencies related to this hoax ??? !!!

i have one question on my mind , all those famous  people who fake their death, how can they hide themselves from the world  , as far as mj is concern the name is so huge the face is known to millions how long he can  escape from media eyes ,now the hoax theories are in media speculation , wont they keep a close eys on him ??

how long those people involve in hoax can keep their silence ??j all these things make return a possibilty .. atleast to me .... just a thought what do you say????

i just read about dr sanjay ,, does anyone know how he was introduced to mj  when and why ?he is an endocrinologist

i was  wondering  why  pianogames is nt making another video ? there is a complete silence from jonellstar i heard someone saying she was a medical student but was   giving  a thought  of changing her   career , later on she said there is not much in the news it was like months back and if mj wont return in july she is done with hoax
why all of the sudd en other people stop ? did they loseture faith ? or   getting threats  ???? !!!!

i was thinking why the jackson trying so hard to make us believe as if mj has gone
! i remember when hatman was discussed , they had a huge close of  hatman at  funeral
2, then absence of his very close friends in memorial became the news , all of them jump in to funeral
3.. later on   the silence from the family about investigation raised suspicion   they started pointing their fingers towards dr murray and rumors of close investigation made headlines
4. then came the crypt picture
5, and now when everyone wanted to know why they had never been to his resting place , all jacksons visited  Fl ?
i dont know if elvis family was  so conscious about the public comments  about his hoax death or were they I WANT TO KNOW  ???? but jacksons behaviour is very odd why are they  bothering themselves to make us believe this ??? may be coz when someone want to hide the truth they act that way  ..............anythoughts?????

i just want to quickly cover few things

1, its not necessary for dr murray to have UK  licence to prescribe any medication to  mj during his stay in london
2. there are many ways to estimate the time of death , measuring the body core temperature  is one of them
every organ in the body has life after death , the importance lies in the fact that before donating any organ doctor make sure if the organ is  still suitable  for the recipient ,those changes are visible with naked eye,
another way is, by  viewing the organs taken out on autopsy under microscope where cell show changes like potassium and other enzymes leaking out  s etc  i wont go in to details ,
3, if murray raise the temperation of room  to mess up with the time of death ,doesnt he know the rigor mortis commences earlier if the room / enviorment temp rises  above 15 degree f  ?

4. no one was allowed to go upstairs , according to some reports the lividity on mj body shows as if the body was moved after death ,  and then the reports of a cigar
flaws in  this  report is who was with murray to move the body if no one was allowed to gain access to their rooms? second the lividity fix AFter 10 hrs and if the body is move after that time only then Forensic specialist can question about  lividi ty and thus changing the original position of body

5.  media reports that a doctor said he has never seen such a body  before which was  lilly white , flaws : he had vitiligo ( with patches of dark and lighht skin) nonsense !!

6, why dr murray called dr klien after mj stop breathing ? to me it seems as if he was asking for any anti dote or to reverse the condition i believe dr klein might had used propofol for cosmetic surguries on mj but it could mean that was it dr klein who introduced propofol to mj ???

7. why mj family had bitter feeling towards TII directors and the movie , i remember reading on tmz that katherine jackson was against it too but kept her silence  because the money will go to estate
among people close to him was karen poiniting her finger towars the director but why??? on the other hand elizebeth was the most sincere friend supported the film

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1GdGMOJ ... re=related
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I dont know but members are leaving the forum . the hoax video making aint releasing videos by saying their life is in danger but mj is alive . on other hand karen with her stories are coming one after another , new pictures from crypts are releasing , possiblity of filing a lawsuit against  dr murray is in news. joe asking for mj medical records .whats going on ? im exhaust now

I just saw micheal jackson verified twitter account and its working , i m   confuse ? who is running that account  ?  how is it possible i mean did i miss something ???can some one please clear that for me . thanks

i read on forum some where ,people were discussing about propofol antidote not found in mj body , fact is there is no antidote known, if  accidental overdose leads to respiratort arrest ,,,, its treated by  oxygen administration
if cardiac arrest ..... only fluids are given, or epinephrine is given as last resort ,  if my memory serves me rite epinephrine  was found in reports
but for midazolam and xanaz ,, there is antidote ,but was not given by dr murray

sometimes back media spread a rumour that mj is getting blind in one eye bla bla but while recalling some of the list  of medicine and procedure dr arnold clamied to  run on mj just befrre the release of tii , includes a drug LATANOPLAST ??? its for a eye condition called GLUCOMA when patients complaints of blurring of vision , so there was some truth to rumor , but why would dr arnold prescribe to mj when he is not an eye specialist ??? i dont know

his skin cancers skin discoloration has already been discussed in a post but  while browsing the net i found 6 causes leading to brwon nails my next to door neighbors is suffering from vitiligo and diabetes  and her nails are also brown but not as dark as mj if  he had skin cancer then its possible to predict his death in 6 months , and who knows if he actually called his children to made up his mind to be stronger ... who knows??

3. jermain in lkl himself said he has never observed any odd behaviour  denying to know anything about mj taking any drugs but in his recent interview with jackson he said there is no guit of not doing to help him ( i dont remember exact words)

So far we have discussed the family reaction after 25th june , most of us  found it odd  the but if we really want to know how they reacted in the past we can  investigate a bit more , like what happened when tito wife was murder , does some one know how they reacted , what effort they made to bring justice , was funeral  arranged for pulic or media viewing  or  was it  private ,  anyways i think we should work on that ,