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Michael Jackson News / Tom, Charlie and Michael
« on: March 10, 2011, 11:16:33 AM »
Tom Mesereau was just seen on CNN discussing Charlie Sheen. The news anchor person referred to Tom as being the lawyer during MJs trial and at the end of the news segemnt  he made the same reference to Tom and Michael. Just curious...Why don't non-believer's pick up on these same subtle clues? Out of the blue...Michael Jackson's name is mentioned here there and everywhere.  :lol:

Conspiracy Theories / March 1, 2011 Documentary on MJ
« on: February 25, 2011, 07:31:41 PM »
I stumbled upon this today. Has anyone else heard about this upcoming documentary?
Also, I wonder if the person behind the documentary belongs to our forum or any of the others. LOL...things that make you go hmmm...


Sounds Crazy But Watch This!

The announcement that Michael Jackson died shocked the world on June 25, 2009 as he prepared for his record-breaking 50-date ComeBack performances at AEG’s London O2 Arena. Many believe the timing of his death to be suspicious, coupled with the recording of his rehearsals in high-tech high-definition video and the FACT that AEG owner, Philip Anschutz, owns more movie theaters than anyone else in the world. All this leads to the worldwide release of the highest-grossing musical documentary in history, “This Is It” just months later.

But this is simply the tip of the iceberg when examining the death or many would say the disappearance of the King of Pop. Just like with Elvis and other superstars such as Jim Morrison and Tupac Shakur, the fantasy that somehow someway they faked their death leaves them forever alive in the minds of millions. But with Michael Jackson, could he have possibly upped the ante and really faked his death just to shock the world and truly have the BIGGEST COMEBACK IN WORLD HISTORY?

“Alive! Is Michael Jackson Really Dead?” is a see it to believe it documentary produced by independent journalist Pearl Jr. who covered Michael Joe Jackson’s 2005 child molestation trial. Pearl Jr. along with her partner, Cecil Holmes of Elbow Grease Productions, released the first documentary film that detailed the FACTS of that case. Now she has diligently investigated the possibility that Michael Jackson played a death hoax on the world by planning, executing and convincing the world that he has died in a most ridiculous manner—at the hands of an incompetent cardiologist who allegedly over-administered the anesthetic propofol in Michael’s home and didn’t know CPR to resuscitate him.

One must be prepared and open-minded for this most fascinating documentary that dives into the FACTS surrounding the missing Michael Jackson. The last photo of Michael in the ambulance will be proven to be faked, and is the ONLY photo evidence of Jackson in distress. Over a year after MJ’s “death”, there is no name on his grave, the preliminary hearing never confirmed the body in question was in FACT that of Michael Joe Jackson’s, and a note confirmed to be written and released by the King of Pop in May 2009 stating, “See You In July 2011” confirms this possibility is REAL.

If one needs more titillating information to watch this jaw-dropping documentary, here’s just one more clue out of hundreds. There was a book published on June 24, 2009 that focused on the death of Michael Jackson, just one day before the King of Pop vanished.

“Alive! Is Michael Jackson Really Dead?” delivers proof, evidence, and ridiculous slip-ups that will be the talk of the water cooler for those who have the courage to speak about the possibility that Michael Jackson faked his death.

This see it for yourself documentary is something one must see to believe. After all, the main reason for any disagreement is because someone doesn’t know what the other knows. The Michael Jackson “beLIEvers” are vast, worldwide and thought to be crazy, but after seeing all the information presented in “Alive! Is Michael Jackson Really Dead?” people will completely understand why hoards of MJ fans believe that Michael Joe Jackson isn’t dead, but planned the biggest ComeBack in world history.

“Alive! Is Michael Jackson Really Dead?” is a worldwide DVD, on-demand, digital release available on March 1, 2011. It’s a MUST-SEE!

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Produced by Elbow Grease Productions and distributed by Celebrity Video Distributors.

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Michael Jackson News / Prince's Appearance on The View 12/09/10
« on: December 10, 2010, 06:55:10 AM »
Yesterday Prince made a surprise visit to The View. He brought tickets for the hosts to come to a concert that he's having in New York on December 18th. I found it interesting that he wore one black glove on his left hand. Seeing someone wear one glove as a fashion accessory always reminds me of MJ. A fan from the audience yelled " I love you' and Prince replied "I love you too". Another fan joined in by proclaiming love toward Prince. At that time, Prince replied with " I love you more". MJ references and reminders are everywhere.  :lol:

I'll locate the clip and post it if that's possible.

Keep in mind that the blogger, Vigilant Citizen,  is not a believer. Therefore he makes references to MJ's death and possible cause of his death.

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Source: Inside Edition

Now actor Randy Quaid and his wife Evi are in handcuffs as she rants about a bizarre plot to murder them, saying, "Hollywood is murdering its movie stars."

They're asking for asylum in Canada, saying they fear for their lives.  As if things weren't bizarre enough, their lawyer read a handwritten note to the press, saying:

"We are requesting asylum from Hollywood Star Whackers. Evi and Randy Quaid."

So who are the Star Whackers? The Quaids claim it's a shadowy group responsible for, what they say are the murders of actors David Carradine and Heath Ledger.  The deaths or Caradine in a hotel in Thailand, and Ledger in his New York City apartment in 2008, were both ruled accidental. But the Quaids believe otherwise.

As the Quaids passed through a barrage of media, Evi Quaid said, "Heath Ledger was murdered!"

This is just their latest eccentric behavior that has the world wondering weather the Quaids have lost it.

Iin 2009 they were charged with skipping out on a $10,000 hotel bill in Santa Barbara. They're also accused of illegally squatting and then trashing a house in Montecito that they once owned.

INSIDE EDITION spoke to private investigator Becky Altringer who once worked for them.

"I realized there's something just not right here, because there was just too much paranoia going on," said Altringer.

Randy Quaid is the older brother of famed actor Dennis Quaid. He's best known for playing looney characters like cousing Eddie in the National Lampoon Vacation movies. But in recent years, Randy Quaid and his wife became increasingly isolated and troubled.

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These doubles have gotten me to thinking more and more about their relationship with MJ. He  selected particular ones and did so with a huge element of trust. Consider this...they went out and interacted with MJs fans as MJ.  MJ couldn't have a double being seen drunk in public or saying rude things to his fans, right? These doubles had to be carefully chosen and instucted on their "do's and don'ts".

I would love to know  when the doubles  were selected to go out as MJ and under what circumstances. Did they  get the request when MJ was not feeling well, had a conflict in schedule or just didn't feel in the mood to interact with the public that  day.  That may be difficult …not impossible ...but difficult to uncover. MJ reportedly required many employees to sign confidentiality agreements. The doubles most likely had to do this as well considering the sensitive nature of their work.  

These doubles interacted with MJ a lot and several  have befriended him, hung out with him and were invited to his home. By becoming his friend, what are the chances that he shared some inner thoughts with these guys?  I am not suggesting that he called them up to announce the hoax. But I am now wondering if they know more about the hoax than we do. This may be from past conversations with him of what he may have been interested in doing. This may also be as a result  of them having a greater insight into the man and how he thinks. You don’t spend that amount of one-on-one time with someone without getting to know them just a bit better than outsiders.

Some forum members have personally met the doubles or have friends who have met them. Man oh man I would love to talk to one of the doubles and just try and pick his brains. I have a gut feeling that the doubles know more about the hoax and MJ than people think that they do. Your thoughts?

Michael's Reasons to hoax his death / What If The Hoax Is A Hoax?
« on: March 01, 2010, 10:23:20 PM »
What if…??????? ;)

The hoax was created for publicity purposes only. How would you honestly react if MJ  and those around him did it simply to promote his career?

With this question, it might  be easy to get offtopic and provide answers discussing why or why not this reason is feasible. That is why I’d like to stress that the  question is not about why he would resort to doing this  or how media  would react or how the general public would react or what role XYZ people would play in it all.  

 I’m turning to hoax forum members for their  honest response. The question is strictly asked to gauge how you would  react if publicity  indeed were revealed as the sole reason for pulling the hoax.  Remember…anything is possible.  

I'll await your replies before sharing mine. It might surprise you. BAM...

MTV, VH1, CMT To Present Special Live Musical Event On 10-10-2010
For the first time ever, these music brands will come together to celebrate the decade in music on one big night, across all three networks.

By MTV News staff

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On October, 10, 2010, a very special live musical event will take place, highlighting the top artists of the decade as selected by the viewers of MTV, VH1 and CMT, the networks announced via a joint press release Tuesday (February 2). For the first time ever, these powerful music brands will come together to celebrate the decade in music on one big night, across all three networks.

Further details will be announced in the future and were not available at press time, but as the press release noted, "You know how we can't resist these numerical plays: 10-10-10!"

Stay with MTV News as this unique event develops!

TMZ Articles / Michael Jackson is Now Listed in the R.I.P. Section
« on: February 06, 2010, 03:50:07 PM »
Michael Jackson Dies
Posted Jun 25th 2009 5:20PM by TMZ Staff

We've just learned Michael Jackson has died. He was 50.

Michael suffered a cardiac arrest earlier this afternoon at his Holmby Hills home and paramedics were unable to revive him. We're told when paramedics arrived Jackson had no pulse and they never got a pulse back.

A source tells us Jackson was dead when paramedics arrived. A cardiologist at UCLA tells TMZ Jackson died of cardiac arrest.

Once at the hospital, the staff tried to resuscitate him but he was completely unresponsive.

A source inside the hospital told us there was "absolute chaos" after Jackson arrived. People who were with the singer were screaming, "You've got to save him! You've got to save him!"

We're told one of the staff members at Jackson's home called 911.

La Toya ran in the hospital sobbing after Jackson was pronounced dead.

Michael is survived by three children: Michael Joseph Jackson, Jr., Paris Michael Katherine Jackson and Prince "Blanket" Michael Jackson II.

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Other Odd Things / VH1Casting For MJ Re-enactment Show
« on: January 25, 2010, 06:03:14 AM »
credit A&E message board xlu and You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
VH1 is already starting with an MJ re-enactment show

Friday, Jan. 15, 2010, 5:22 PM Pacific

Non-Union Episodic

Show Producer - Jon Rubin
Casting Director: Cambria Hankin
Interview Dates: None will cast off photos
Shoot/Start Date: Jan. 24, 2010
Pay Rate: $150/day flate
Location: Los Angeles




This is for VH1 and it is Non-Union and will be airing so please only submit those who are non-union and or Fi-Core.


Special Notes: This is for a re-enactment type show so please do not submit just anyone. Talent MUST look like the person we are looking for. Make sure you view photo.

- African American at least 6?2, 200-220 lbs. Age- 58...See Attached Photo


- Caucasian at least 6 feet, 200-210 lbs. Age- 32...See Attached Photo


(the guy with the sunglasses) African American, 6 feet, 180 lbs. Age- Late 20?s-early 30?s...See Attached Photo


- Caucasian, at least 6 feet, 200-220 lbs. Age- late 50?s...See Attached Photo


- Caucasian, 5?6-5?8, 205-220 lbs. Age- 50...See Attached Photo


- can look like the big burly guys below
*African-American, heavy-set, strong men, at least 6 feet something and not older than 50...See Attached Photo


- Assistant Chief Coroner- Caucasian man in his late 40?s/early 50?s, a little beefy...See Attached Photo


-Chief Medical Examiner -an Indian man in his 50/60?s...See Attached Photo


- Caucasian, Age- 62, Height-5?6...See Attached Photo


1 Caucasian male (LAPD Detective Scott Smith) & 1 Hispanic male (LAPD Detective Orlando Martinez). Both are late 30s ? early-mid 40s, probably fairly in shape and average height (5?9? ? 6?0)

(2 female, 1 male): One female can be Asian, the other 2 Caucasian. 20'-40's

3 Caucasian males to play Dr. Murray?s lawyers, 20's - 40's

(both male; 1 African American & 1 Latino) 20's - 40's

[ 3 NURSES ]
(all female, 1 African American, 1 Caucasian & 1 Latino or Asian); mid-late 30s

- late 20?s- Caucasian female


Pictures & Videos of Michael / New TII Video Directed by Spike Lee
« on: December 10, 2009, 06:19:04 PM »
Go to this site to view the new TII video directed by Spike Lee. It premiered tonight at 7pm est.

Please note the first part where you see a picture of him as a child next to a school paper. In his own handwriting he wrote..."My name is Michael Joseph Jackson:.

LOL... I suppose that settles the Joe versus Joseph debate. I doubt that an elementary school aged Michael was working on a hoax back then.

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The Movie References / Death at a Funeral: Spring 2010
« on: December 10, 2009, 07:39:13 AM »
1- This is a Sony film
2-The theme is  death and a funeral
3- The trailer punch lines joke about contents of a casket, how a family copes with grief and secrets of the deceased
Creepy coincidence?

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I had the pleasure of watching the Jack5ons  appearance on LKL twice plus saw them on Jimmy Kimmel's show last night as well. Talk about Jack5ons overload. Man oh man.

Jermaine is the ring leader and spokesman for a reason. He is the better actor/liar and he guides the others with their responses and reactions. Marlon is the weakest link and prone to stutter, stumble and would be a good candidate to corner for answers. Jackie is vulnerable and made errors too but not like Marlon. Tito is stone faced and leans more in the direction of Jermaine as far as keeping up the charade.

I won’t bore you with every minute detail so I’ll try to keep it simple. Larry asked scripted questions designed to get a few messages across to the viewers.
The messages:
1-Jackson brothers were always close and were never jealous of MJ or his solo success. The brotherly love was just dripping.
2-Jackson family as a whole is close and supportive of one another. They showed a clip with them wishing Janet Happy Birthday via phone.
3- They are close to dad and the strong upbringing because it made them the men that they are today.
4-Michael dreams big and has always wanted involvement with “heal the world” type projects .
5 –Michael was not a drug addict ...a clear distinction between drugs and Rx drugs was made.
6 – All Jacksons are strong family men who love and care for their kids. Paris’ performance was shown.
7- Jackson brothers have big tour plans for the future and are not merely looking to settle with a Vegas act. Jermaine emphasized that point.
8- The next generation of Jacksons is being prepped to carry on the “dynasty”
9- Great emphasis was placed on the Jackson 5 and how at the core ALL of the brothers remain a member of that basic group.
10 – Randy’s contributions were not overlooked but explained that he has made some choices to be silent and removed from some projects. Again leaving the emphasis toward the original Jackson 5 on the table.
Many non hoax believers and some hoax believer are screaming "BS!" and "opportunists!" Not so fast….
Ironically the topic was discussed by the three (Jermaine was absent) on Jimmy Kimmel last night. There was great emphasis on communicating that the filming took place PRIOR to June 25th. They wrapped up filming on June 19th.

In much the same way that I  have noticed a carefully crafted effort to clean up MJ's legacy and image, I see the same regarding the Jacksons. All will be squeaky clean when this little project is finished. I unofficially dub this project... Operation Jackson 5: I Want You Back? Guess What..We're Back!

I am curious about something though. If my suspicion of a group reunion comes to be, how will MJ fans respond? There is a whole generation of fans who 1)forgot that he was a member of the group or 2)never knew that he was a member of the group. On LKL, there was waaay waaay and I'll say it again waaaay too much emphasis on the Jackson 5. Discussion and old clips and praises of their closeness as a GROUP. They spoke as if MJ was sitting there by the magnitude of their plans. Surely they are not so delusional to believe that the Jackson 4 could "bring it" as Jermaine described in their desire to hit the road and tour.

How will the recent MJ fans react to that? To go in the direction of group accomplishes two things: 1)resurrects more careers and brings something fresh to the pop/soul music scene and 2)takes the pressure off of MJ to be the only star and frees him up for other projects i.e. film making. It ain't what MJ fans want. I sense it by the negative comments found on quite a few forums. Many fans still fantasize and dream of the MJ solo image from 10, 15 or 20+ years ago resurfacing in gold pants and removing his Including MJ, these are middle aged men with children and two have grandchildren. No they aren't ready for rocking chairs and nursing homes but certainly they are ready to move past the old images designed for dreamy eyed teens. It has been 20 years since MJ toured the US and 20 years since the Jacksons toured/recorded. There is some significance in that period of time and the year 1989. This group concept is a stretch. I admit it. However...I see too many signs leading in that direction. Besides, it sure beats missing Mj for 32+ plus years. Yeah I had to go there with yet another Elvis

 My reunion suspicions were confirmed after watching the brothers on LKL. Quite frankly it confirmed some suspicions of mine regarding this whole Jack5ons thing with that crazy logo as well. There was far too much emphasis on the group and his involvement and their desire to perform as a group again. IMO, that is a major set up for their reunion tour. Some fans may be disappointed over that. We’ll see how this plays out when the reality show airs and eventually ends in mid January. BTW – until now we were lead to believe there were 6 episodes. They stated last night that there would be 5. So the last one is scheduled to be aired on January 17th. Five episodes, eh? Five brothers…

Michael Jackson has a fan army. The Jackson 5 has a fan army.
The Jackson 5's core fan army stems from the 70's - mid 80's. MJ's core fan army stems from the 80's - late 90's. The Jackson 5's fan army is nostalgic for the old group, their great music and stage performance. Likewise the MJ fan army is nostalgic for the old MJ, his great music and his stage performance. Unless you are from the earlier era you may not completely be familiar with or understand the fans base of the group. It was HUGE.

I am a member of several forums and I troll a few more. One trend that I noticed is the nostalgic way that fans view MJ. They dedicate many threads to MJ's image, look and of course wardrobe i.e. gold pants from the 80s and 90s. MJ has not had that look in decades yet fans look nostalgically at those older pictures. Why, I wondered? Why are fans especially younger ones caught in the trip down the nostalgic memory lane? i suppose that it reminds them of a  time when they could fantasize and dream. Why aren't there as many threads dedicated to MJ in 2006 as there are the ones for MJ in 1996 or 1986? Were the fans more interested in MJ from the past than the current MJ? It sure appears that way. Fans declare that they did not view MJ as a has been yet all clues lead to that subconscious belief. Otherwise there wouldn’t be as much emphasis on the past MJ and the past music.

Michael hasn't recorded new music in almost a decade. His song TII is an old one. It was well received but it hasn't been #1 for weeks on end as past recordings have. He received awards recently for an album titled Number 1s. Number 1s is a compilation of older songs. Again nostalgia comes into play. The Jacksons and MJ are at crossroads in their respective careers. MJ is slightly ahead because he has been in the public eye more than the others. Unfortunately he has been in the public eye in recent years for all of the wrong reasons. The Jackson haven’t' recorded new music in almost 20 years. MJ is taking a risk in this method to revive his career as are the other Jackson brothers. The payoff will benefit them all.
I still ask the loaded question…”How will MJ fans respond?”. Jackson 5 fans will be fine. It’s the MJ fans that I wonder about because they are nostalgic for the old MJ and quite frankly that person may be gone.

There are some things from TII that are striking a new cord with me now. MJ was very generous with the other musicians. He did not play a big headed star. He encouraged others to stand out and shine. He was generous with providing them with exposure onstage and SHARING the stage. Plus MJ made it a point to speak lovingly again about his brothers after the Jackson 5 medley. It was more haunting than usual. I say that it was a set up in much the same way that I believe this Jack5ons project is a set up. There is an old saying “ A set back is a set up for a comeback”. We are being set up for a comeback.

The little theory of mine could be spot on or waaay off base. Who knows. I do know that all roads lead me to thinking that this is a strong possibility. BTW- It's not nostalgic longings on the part of this old J5 fan either. I sat and wrote down the "pros" and "cons" to this path. The "pros" won. This move would definitely take some pressure off of MJ's shoulders. Plus, he's got young children to raise and other professional pursuits. LOL..The Jack5ons reality show refers to the family as a dynasty. A move toward a reunion would establish them as that.
Peace and L.O.V.E.

Jermaine Jackson / Jack5ons Reunion Still in the Works?
« on: December 07, 2009, 05:49:06 PM »
credit mjfc, forever.

Pssst Jermaine...what do you mean by surprise ending? Inquiring minds want to know.

JACKSON 4 REUNION STILL 'IN THE WORKS': Jermaine says of planned concert, 'you have to wait and see.

*Despite the death of Michael Jackson, his brother Jermaine says long-gestating plans for a Jacksons reunion concert are still being considered for next year, but you'll have to watch their upcoming A&E reality series to find out more details.

"Those plans are in the works but you have to wait and see where it goes", he told reporters, referring to their show "The Jacksons: A Family Dynasty," which begins airing on Dec 13.

In the show, cameras follow original members Jermaine, Jackie, Tito and Marlon as they planned for a tentative 40th anniversary reunion of the Jackson 5 before -- and after -- the sudden death in June of Michael.

According to Reuters, producers on Friday said fans would have to watch the six-episode show to find out whether the brothers decide to go ahead in some form, without Michael.

"That is a surprise you have to stay tuned for that. The guys live all of those answers out on camera," said executive producer Jodi Gomes.

Gomes and Jermaine Jackson also denied reports from earlier this year that his late brother's three young children would appear on the TV show, citing respect for Michael's efforts to keep them away from the media spotlight during his life.

"There was never any intention to put Michael's children on the show before or after his death," Gomes said.

Cameras began following the four brothers in the spring of 2009, following them to dance rehearsals and recording studios and back to their humble beginnings in Gary, Indiana as they tried to put together plans for a Jackson 5 reunion.

With Michael's sudden death on June 25, the show ends up providing the first inside look on how they dealt with the loss of their famous sibling. Brother Jackie, 58, breaks into tears as he recalls hearing about Michael's death on his car radio.

"We were voted the No.1 family for the world to know more about way before Michael's passing," Jermaine told reporters. "We are doing what he would want us to do. This is the best connection we have with the fans who want so much more from the family," he added, explaining the decision to continue filming after Michael's death.

"For so many years we have never revealed who we really are," Jermaine said. "You knew us on stage, but (now) we get a chance to be ourselves off stage."

It is unclear whether Michael Jackson, who does not appear in the TV show and who was rehearsing for his own comeback concerts in London when he died suddenly in June, seriously planned to take part in the much talked-about reunion of the band that made him a child star in the 1960s.

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