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#1

Ok Im back now after a few months off from the hoax and I finally want to contribute something which may be of some worth.

I have watched this Billie Jean clip about a million times, and something always struck me as odd but I could not quite put my finger on it.
Then suddenly after another poster posted something unrelated about the same video it jumped out at me!!

Now I want you to bare with me here while I explain this to you and get your thoughts.

Ok my discovery is ....... That there are 2 MJ's being used for Billie Jean in This Is It!

I will now Show you where and when the 2 MJ's switch on the above video. Please read the whole thing and watch with the video before you say im wrong.

1) So in my opinion the person that does heel strike IS NOT MJ!!! He is to Short and stumpy, Shoulders too square and not enough omph in his crotch grab.

2) But you will notice the camera quickly then flashes to a front view of MJ who looks directly in to the camera and gives us an MJ face is the only way i can describe it, and his crotch grabs instantly have more omph. His shoulders are pointy he looks taller and his ears are non mistakeable!

3) This is where MJ makes it easier for us now and from now on you will mainly only have to camera angeles. One which is MJ, the other which is the impostor.

4) The camera angles look like one is the bottom left of the stage and one is bottom right both looking up towards MJ.

5) At about 0:20 of the clip it switches to the left camera angle and this is the angle I beLIEve to be the imposter. From this left angle the person performing looks, lethargic, slow, and lazy, no real energy. If you look closely you will see this person moves and walks on the soles and flats of his feet.
This is not the characteristic of a dancer usually as they are usually kind of on their toes.

6) Then at 0:33 the camera angle Jumps to the right had side and MJ instantly Jumps into life! his movements have much more energy and passion. He is kind of on his toes. Then the real give away for me, as he starts to walk he kind of swishes his left arm in front of him, and MJ always does this when he performs.

7) Then at 0:45 the camera switches again to the other side, to the left hand side again and the performer instantly seems drained of energy. His legs look a little wider, and his movements are ridged. Its as if he is made from wood.

8) The camera angle keeps switching from side to side and every time it switches it seems the MJ Performing Switches as well. If you look at 1:15 the camera should be from the left hand side and MJ or the imposter kind of puts his feet together and kind of bends his back slightly then puts his arms up in the air and then walks away to the left still bent over like an old man and really looks like he can hardly move.

9) Then at 1:23 The camera angle switches and MJ instantly looks at ease again. His legs look thinner and more agile, and bend easier lol if that makes sense. He then steps backwards and shakes his hands really fast like he does in man in the mirror and other performances.

10) The camera then switches to the left again at 1:32 the camera switches to the left again and the Impostor! the MJ there just casually stamps one foot on the floor and looked abit lazy and ridged with his movement. Again from this angle, it is easier to see his legs and you can easily see they look a little wider than the MJ from the right hand sides.

11) BAM! then at 1:39 The main chorus of Billie Jean starts and the camera flashes the the right hand side where the real MJ bursts into life once more and is really going for it.

13) then the camera flashes to the Left again and the Shorter, MJ again just looks casual and not bothered.

14) Then at 1:48 the camera flashes to the right hand side again and MJ does that thing where he reaches up and grabs the air with his fist and pulls it downwards.

Im not gunna do the whole video for you as its to long maybe just the other main parts and you can work the rest out for yourselves pretty easily.

Point one - At 2:04 MJ does like this cool Robot move and starts the slide glide, the camera the pans the the left side where the Impostor finishes off the slide glide and fails miserably at it, something MJ could always do with ease.

Point 2 - At 2:12 Camera pans to the right where The Real MJ pulls out an amazing popping move definitely him!

Point 3 - At 2-30 Fake Shorter MJ is very flat footed again and just kind of moving feet up and down not doing much, hand gestures to the camera to switch to the other MJ.

Point 4 - 2:37 Real MJ is in a completely different position to the other camera angle and effortlessly glides across the stage kicking legs out and dancing. Watch the way he walks from 2:48 - 2:50. He is completely confident in the way he carries himself and is exacly the way that MJ performs and then throws a hand in the air!

Point 5 - at 2-52 The Imposter from the left is very clumsy is randomly jumping in the air very flat footed again.

Point 6 - at 3:18 the Real MJ from the right starts pulling out the ankle breakers and twisting and body locking that the other MJ from the Left really does not look like he can do.

Point 7 - At 3:27 Fake MJ from the left finishes off Ankle breakers very dismally and cant do it. from this angle you can again see the height difference.

point 8 - The camera imiedieltly pans back to the camera on the right where the real MJ busts another amazing mover and is really pissing all over the other one to the left.

Point 9 - At 3:40 the camera goes to the left and you can see the difference again as the imposter is in a different position and looks very bad and slow again.

Point 10 - At 4:46 the Real MJ from the right claps as if to say im the real MJ!!!

Point 11 - At 4:48 Fake MJ from the left Acts to put on make up and disguise as if to say im the fake MJ! Then does a strange symbolism dance and Shouts Bam

Point 12 -  The real MJ from the Right then does the moonwalk to prove he is the real MJ.

Point 13 - The Fake MJ from the left then again fails to do the side Slide!

Point 14 - at 5:27 Fake MJ puts the wrong leg forward at the start of the Hat dance.

Point 15 - Real MJ from the right then busts another load of cool moves.

If anyone else feels they have anything to add to this then please do. Oh and this is just a thought please dont slate me if you think im wrong.

With the L.O.V.E
#2
General Hoax Talk / ASK MJ TO COME BACK
May 25, 2012, 01:58:48 AM

Do you think it may make a difference if we ask MJ to come back?

Maybe he may be waiting for us to call for him, his name, to need him, to want him, maybe thats all he is waiting for?

if that is for any reason, that is the case then this is the official thread to ask Michael Jackson to come back to us and give a reason why you want him back.

Come on Guys this is your chance to show MJ what he means to you!  :multiplespotting:

#3
General Hoax Talk / BAM!!
May 17, 2012, 10:46:13 PM

Is it still going to happen?

I personally hope so and think so, but how many of you after nearly 3 years beLIEve that an MJ BAM is going to happen?

If you don't, do you beLIEve that he will slowly fade back in, or alternatively he wont be back but he just wants us to know he is alive?

Would love to just hear your thoughts :)

#4
Random MJ Talk / Matt Fiddles
May 07, 2012, 08:29:49 PM

I dont know about you but I have Farking had it with this Matt Fiddles Fame whore!

This latest article about MJ ordering Randy to be shot dead is the very last straw I can take, I am absolutely outraged.

The Slime ball is saying more and more idiotic things about MJ tarnishing his name once more Just when we thought his name had restored some dignity back.

I have emailed The Sun and other Media outlets printing this story but dont feel that this will be enough.

I think we need to do something about this guy to stop him once and for all, this is our chance to stand up for MJ as one and show what we have learnt over these 3 years, who knows this may even be a test from the man himself.

Either way I am not content for these stories to go on any longer.

Who is with me?

#5

Hey Guys I dont know how to put an image directly in my post sorry. But If you follow this link at go to 3.14 in the video and freeze it there you will see that this person has tiny hands and tiny fingers.
We all know how big MJ hands and fingers were, so unfortunately I have just discovered that today. Please excuse me if this has already been discussed.

#6
Michael Jackson News / Is it time to Move on?
February 02, 2012, 12:37:39 AM

Hey my Fellow beLIEvers, I just wanted to voice something which has been troubling me for  a while now ..... I have been the biggest beLIEver ever since june 25th 2009..... But it just seems now that all the "MAJOR" clues were in the first months after his death, and nothing really since apart from the odd clue here and there which MAY or MAY NOT have been made up or wrongly analysed in order for us to keep having something to beLIEve in or talk about.
Maybe we were just Looking for a way that he could still be here, maybe it was just wishful thinking and seeing things that were not really there...

Did we really do that ... are we really that sad?

I dont mean to sound like I dont believe or to dishearten anyone becuase I love MJ so much I even have a massive Tattoo of him with angel wings and Man in the mirror lyrics across my ribs down to my hip.

What are your thoughts? Can anyone help me? Does anyone know of any SOLID clues in the last year to six months?

With the love SuperMJ4eva  moonwalk_/ michael-jackson/

#7
Hoax Videos / double used for this is it!
April 15, 2010, 11:35:20 AM

EARNAST VALENTINO is very much the biggest possibily to be at least one of the doubles in this is it.
he moves egsacly like the "billie jean michael" check out to lame spin he does at 1.27
its egsacly the same as the half hearted ones done in billie jean! for me michael will come back and perform so well we will be suprised becuase the doubles were not up to his level and we wont be used to his amazing danceing again!

xxx

[youtube:3ergffv3]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tU_cB9UfrDs[/youtube:3ergffv3]

#8
Michael Jackson News / michael jackson tribute?
March 03, 2010, 05:38:53 PM

both the vienna and london wembley tributes were cancelled does anyone know if they have been reshelduled yet and if so which loaction?

#9

(sorry if this has already been said!)
the court hearing is on april the fourth right ....................... which just" HAPPENS" to be EASTER DAY!!!!!!!!
:D

and do you know what easter day symbolises?

ressurection.

lol
simple

up to you to think what will happen that day!

#10
Michael Jackson News / could be a very big clue!
March 03, 2010, 01:32:17 PM

does everyone remember that video of that black french guy that video'd himself going to see the announcements of this is it?
well it just clicked in my head that he was (if im not mistakn) playing another day on his phone!
and another day didnt surface to well after MJ's death!
january the 2nd to be precise!
so this has to prove that the announcements were a set up for whatever reason and mj threw a clue in there for us to see later after that song got surfaced on the internet!
if anyone can find the link please put it on here to clarify as this could be a mojor clue!

#11
Hoax Videos / could be a very important clue!
March 03, 2010, 01:23:21 PM

does everyone remember that video of that black french guy that video'd himself going to see the announcements of this is it?
well it just clicked in my head that he was (if im not mistakn) playing another day on his phone!
and another day didnt surface to well after MJ's death!
january the 2nd to be precise!
if anyone can find the link please put it on here to clarify as this could be a mojor clue!

#12
Hoax Videos / Re: Three days later - aion power leveling
February 03, 2010, 08:30:39 PM

what is this about?

#13
Hoax Videos / the true meaning behind this is it!
January 31, 2010, 08:44:01 AM

viewtopic.php?f=48&t=3932

follow the link and watch the videos carefully!

#14
Hoax Videos / if michael was killed
January 24, 2010, 08:01:41 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW43Mig1 ... re=related

hopefully michael is still alive and well and we have all been on a great journy together spreading love and really getting to learn his message. but after all these months now and still no sign of a comeback and still no sign of a murder case being even started its time to start asking more questions to the people that would know the answers!
watching this video made me think ....... what if michael really has been murdered, i mean he was the face of love on this planet and he often spoke out against the illuminati ways and they would want to get rid of him. now picture this. the illuminati " CONTROLL THE MEDIA!" they controll what we are seeing they controll what we are doing and believeing (supposedly) and if that is true is it possible they finaly got rid of michael? if they are as clever and as powerful as they supposedly are they could have killed the greatest entertainer and kindest man on the planet on this planet under our noses and then send us all on a wild goose chase to throw the attention off of them. if you think about it their the only ones that could really get away with it.
i mean the only other suspects would be the family (no way was it them)
and conrad muarry and come on if it was him my dead aunt could of solved that murder case 7 months ago!
apparently the illuminati controll the police force and court rooms aswell so thats something to think about how easily they could of got away with it.
this could explain why the jacksons have kept quite for this long as they are trying to find a way to fight the illuminati or expose them but remember they are just one family. and that could lead to the emotional outbursts of outburst of "murder!" from latoya when it all gets a bit much for her .
hopefully im wrong the only reason im saying all this is becuase if im right i want to fight and bringdown whoever is responsible i dont care how powerfull they are becuase together we are more powerful!
remember L.O.V.E is the most powerful thing michael has tought us so spread it and become soldiers of love"

#15
Hoax Videos / jermaine says michael is dead! :(
January 24, 2010, 08:47:38 AM

jermaine says michael is dead at 3.07 in this video :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGHWLI0491Y
#16
Introduce yourself / hello!
January 18, 2010, 02:01:04 PM

yeah im new as a member but have been following all aspects of the hoax from the day it began.
im so interested and love michael to bits.
erm my personal opinon is that he could make his return in june .. probably the 25th as that is a year after his death, anytime before that i would think that michael wouldnt think his comeback would have the desired effect on the world ...
what do you think?

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if you enter this world knowing that you are loved, and leave knowing the same thing then everything in between can be dealt with ....    michael jackson