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Messages to Michael / Everyone please do this!
« on: August 29, 2010, 01:19:42 AM »
For MJ's birthday, Taj Jackson & the family want us all to make this a trending topic on twitter #MessagetoMJ. Post your message on 8/29/10 & spread the word. L.O.V.E :) You may also include #HappyBirthdayMJ. DO IT FOR MICHAEL!

btw he was born at 7:33 pm :)

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Other Jackson Family Members / Trent Jackson -
« on: August 03, 2010, 03:18:47 PM »
Who is that? Cayla says that's her father & she comes to visit at Hayvenhurst all the time. Her & Genevieve are close & they are cousins. So who is Trent? A cousin or another sibling?

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Other Jackson Family Members / Genevieve, Cayla & Jaafar - Live USTREAM
« on: August 02, 2010, 05:49:56 AM »
Does anyone else follow them on there? I watched the video from Sunday night. They answered questions, shouted out people & joked around together & with the other people or person in the room. They showed a nice drawing by a sweet someone who wanted so badly to participate but couldn't ;) I don't want to get them in trouble though, so don't go on Genevieve's ustream or twitter saying stupid stuff, k guys? Also the person wanted to be included in the video one way or another, they weren't trying to put them in it. Anywyas, I really like Genevieve, she's so down to earth & sweet to the fans but VERY protective of her cousins & siblings. Good for her  :D

One more thing, when Genevieve says "Where's Monkey?" "He should get on here, he's always on" she is referring to Omer NOT Blanket. & on her REAL formspring she said that she didn't even know there were rumors that Omer got kicked out & that it's not true. So that clears that up. Have a nice day! :)

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Jermaine Jackson / Jermaine & his kids, Band?
« on: July 10, 2010, 05:33:22 AM »
I knew there was a reason he was parading his kids around so much lately.  :roll:  idk if he's talking about Jaafar & Jermajesty but he has a band?! & it consists of his kids? Hmm...

jermjackson5 I'm excited having my kids in my band.....about 6 hours ago via web Reply Retweet

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Katherine Jackson / Katherine Jackson interview on Dateline NBC
« on: June 26, 2010, 12:26:28 AM »
It worries me a bit  :( She herself spoke about Paris wanting nothing BUT pictures of MJ in her room. She explained that she never did like the veils, scarves & masks, so that's why she doesn't do it. She talked about Paris going to look at schools with Tito's sons & that she liked it & said she wants to go. She talked about Paris wanting to be an actress, Prince wanting to direct or produce & that Blanket has rhythm, can carry a tune & can dance. She talks about how MJ feared for his life, addresses the molestation accusations on her own. Seems sad at the end when she says no matter what happens to CM she won't be able to be at peace because it won't bring her son back. Also she talks about Debbie & how she's a part of their lives now. She just seems to be talking about him as if he really is gone. idk, but it worried me a little bit. Did anyone watch it, I didn't see any threads. The host also talked about all of the rumors & stuff surrounding that Mann guy who worked on the book with her & the Shaffel guy who produced this interview. As well as how the comments she made about Jordan & Evan Chandler were just rumors & that Evan Chandler's death had nothing to do with the trial.

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Did anyone watch it? I think we've all just witnessed the newest "Illuminati puppet" creation  :roll: Look up her performance & watch it. She's changed a lot & I feel it's more than just her trying to keep up with Gaga & Beyonce. Her new album is called "Bionic" the album cover shows her face, opened up on one side & she appears to be a robot. Her first single is called "Not Myself Tonight", here are the lyrics:

You know tonight
I'm feeling a little out of control
Is this me
You wanna get crazy
Cause I don't give a...

I'm out of character
I'm in rare form
If you really knew me
You'd know it's not the norm

Cause I'm doing things that I normally won't do
The old me's gone I feel brand new
And if you don't like it fuck you

The music's on and I'm dancing
I'm normally in the corner just standing
I'm feeling unusual
I don't care cause this is my night

I'm not myself tonight
Tonight I'm not the same girl (same girl)

I'm not myself tonight
Tonight I'm not the same girl (same girl)

I'm dancing a lot
I'm taking shots
And I'm feeling fine

I'm kissing all the boys and girls
Someone call the doctor cause I lost my mind

Cause I'm doing things that I normally won't do
The old me's gone I feel brand new
And if you don't like it fuck you

The music's on and I'm dancing
I'm normally in the corner just standing
I'm feeling unusual
I don't care cause this is my night

I'm not myself tonight
Tonight I'm not the same girl (same girl)

I'm not myself tonight
Tonight I'm not the same girl (same girl)

In the morning
When I wake up
I'll go back to the girl I used to be
But baby
Not tonight

I'm not myself tonight
Tonight I'm not the same girl (same girl)

I'm not myself tonight
Tonight I'm not the same girl (same girl)

Yeah
That feels good
I needed that

Yeah
Get crazy
Let's go

That's right
C'mon

Give it to me now
Don't stop
Yeah

During her performance, she opens up by saying:
"T-this-this-this-this is the moment that I take over your mind frame
Step into the picture that I paint you to my brain game
I let her date you so I give you a migraine
Over and over, put it on me, later you're insane
This is a rollercoaster that's about to be long gone
Once you jump in, we're gonna get up on the lump and hold on
Just let it go, get it up, allow yourself to transform
Follow me, follow me to a place I know of no return"

Then she goes on to do a very tacky, weird performance. Also the screen behind her shows her album cover flashing in black & white, then focuses on her one eye. Sad. I actually liked her, because she is very talented, she's got that powerhouse voice, but she doesn't even use it. Also, I've never been a huge Christina fan but this kind of stuff is not her, she never tried to keep up with everyone else & copy their style, she was always doing her own thing, example: The Dirty era  :roll: But I really think because she hasn't been on top for a while, she resorted to "changing" herself for the fame. & have you seen her new video? She goes beyond Gaga with that one, overly sexual. Even Gaga has meaning behind her performances, videos, songs, etc, she's usually protesting something using the shock approach. For instance when she performed "Paparazzi" & hung herself on stage with blood dripping down, it was to symbolize the "Death of the celebrity", showing how the media & the fame can destroy someone. But Christina, idk. smh.

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The Resistance / Eminem - Not Afraid
« on: June 07, 2010, 03:01:33 AM »
I have a new found appreciation for Eminem. Not because he has broken free & is against the NWO/Illuminati but because he really makes good music now, he is more mature & aware. Anyways, he has this new song called "Not Afraid" which is directed at a particular person or group of people, the ones who tried to control him & turn him into someone else. His new song is all about waking people up & being a leader to lead them into the right direction, he is standing up to the "bad people" around him & is taking back the control over his life & career. The video is very symbolic, he starts off in a dark room, all alone, no windows no doors. He then sees a light coming through a small crack in the brick wall & so he breaks it down & the light pours in & he breaks free. Once he is free, he is walking down the street, where he sees his reflection in a car mirror, & his reflection is blurred, as if he is possessed by a demon (The Rain Man, whom he's referenced in some of his songs), he even speaks about exorcising his demons in the song, he then ends up being surrounded by smoke & mirrors, where he sees his reflection than the demonic reflection of him self in every mirror. He then runs & breaks through the mirrors. He then appears at a huge cliff & is thrown off of it, falling down into a hole in the ground, but at the last minute he finds the strength & power to fly himself out of the hole & it ends with him on the roof of a building over looking the city. He also wears a cross the whole time & looks up to the sky (God) a couple times as well. He has broken free & found God. Here are the lyrics to the song:

"Not Afraid"

[Intro (during Chorus):]
Yeah, it's been a ride
I guess I had to, go to that place, to get to this one
Now some of you, might still be in that place
If you're tryin to get out, just follow me
I'll get you there

[Chorus:]
I'm not afraid (I'm not afraid)
To take a stand (to take a stand)
Everybody (everybody)
Come take my hand (come take my hand)
We'll walk this road together, through the storm
Whatever weather, cold or warm
Just lettin you know that, you're not alone
Holla if you feel like you've been down the same road (same road)

You could try and read my lyrics off of this paper before I lay 'em
But you won't take the sting out these words before I say 'em
Cause ain't no way I'ma let you stop me from causin mayhem
When I say 'em or do somethin I do it, I don't give a damn
what you think, I'm doin this for me, so fuck the world
Feed it beans, it's gassed up, if it thinks it's stoppin me
I'ma be what I set out to be, without a doubt undoubtedly
And all those who look down on me I'm tearin down your balcony
No if ands or buts, don't try to ask him why or how can he
From "Infinite" down to the last "Relapse" album
he's still shittin, whether he's on salary paid hourly
Until he bows out or he shits his bowels out of him
Whichever comes first, for better or worse
He's married to the game, like a fuck you for Christmas
His gift is a curse, forget the Earth, he's got the urge
to pull his dick from the dirt, and fuck the whole universe

[Chorus]

Okay quit playin with the scissors and shit, and cut the crap
I shouldn't have to rhyme these words in the rhythm for you to know it's a rap
You said you was king, you lied through your teeth, for that
Fuck your feelings, instead of gettin crowned you're gettin capped
And to the fans, I'll never let you down again, I'm back
I promise to never go back on that promise, in fact
Let's be honest, that last "Relapse" CD was ehhh
Perhaps I ran them accents into the ground
Relax, I ain't goin back to that now
All I'm tryin to say is get back, click-clack, blaow
Cause I ain't playin around
It's a game called circle and I don't know how, I'm way too up to back down
But I think I'm still tryin to figure this crap out
Thought I had it mapped out but I guess I didn't, this fuckin black cloud
still follows, me around but it's time to exorcise these demons
These muh'fuckers are doin jumpin jacks now!

[Chorus]

And I just can't keep living this way
Sooo starting today, I'm breaking out of this caaaaage
I'm standing up, I'ma face my demons
I'm manning up, I'ma hold my ground
I've had enough, now I'm so fed up
Time to put my life back together right now! (now)

It was my decision to get clean, I did it for me
Admittedly, I probably did it subliminally
for you, so I could come back a brand new me you helped see me through
And don't even realize what you did, believe me you
I been through the ringer, but they could do little to the middle finger
I think I got a tear in my eye, I feel like the king of
my world, haters can make like bees with no stingers
and drop dead, no more beef lingers
No more drama from now on, I promise
to focus solely on handlin my responsibilities as a father
So I solemnly swear to always treat this roof, like my daughters
and raise it, you couldn't lift a single shingle on it!
Cause the way I feel, I'm strong enough to go to the club
or the corner pub, and lift the whole liquor counter up
Cause I'm raising the bar
I'll shoot for the moon but I'm too busy gazin at stars
I feel amazing and I'm

[Chorus]

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Twitter ~ Not verified but (probably) real / Omer Official Twitter -
« on: June 05, 2010, 10:07:06 PM »
This is the link to Omer's official twitter, Genevieve follows him & wrote to him on it. He's also put up a twitpic of himself. It says Official Twitter on the background. IDK if you guys already knew about it, but just thought I'd post the link in case any of you want to follow him  :D

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So on the Fuse channel, it's a cable music network, which plays a lot of MJ stuff. Anyways, there was a movie made in 1983 about a band (fictional) who's lead singer vanishes. You can read about it on wikipedia. I can't post the story or the link because I'm on a phone. Anyways, my mom turned it on & told me to watch it because it's interesting. she said they haven't aired it in a looooong time. I find that interesting at this time with all of the MJ stuff. Please look it up & read the story, the stuff with the second album & the record company not wanting it released & then years & years after the "death" of eddie, the manager finding the album & releasing it is so interesting in regards to MJ.

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The O2 Press Conference / O2 Announcement EXPOSED! Please Read!
« on: May 04, 2010, 05:58:59 PM »
I just saw what someone had said about the O2 conference & Michael looking angry that day. It has been reported that Peter Lopez, Michael's music attorney had helped cancel it the first time. I was just watching it again. & I thought if that is true. Then Michael obviously didn't want to do those shows. He was being forced into it. So I watched it again & at 5:20 when he throws up the "Black Power" sign, he gives this look, you can see it's directed towards someone, like he is angry. Then he shrugs his shoulders & turns back to the audience & smiles one more time then leaves. That gave it away right there for me, he wasn't happy. When he got off the bus he seemed irritated & Thome Thome was the one ordering him where to go & holding his arm. I also noticed the part in his speech where he says "These will be my final show performances in London. & when I say this is it, it really means this is it because..." & then he chuckles & looks off to the side. I think he laughs because he was planning something to get out of it & away from them, the bad guys, but they didn't know. It sounded like a "HAHA I got you!" or "You have no idea" kind of laugh. I couldn't find the orginal place where people were talking about this that's why I posted it here. Thoughts? I really am now more than ever thinking that Peter's death was either because he was being threatened by those Michael escaped from or who were after him. They probably felt he knew something or because he helped Michael go against them, they went after Peter. It all is becoming more & more clear. The truth is revealing itself, little by little.



Here's the link, I don't know how to post it on here:
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Watch at 5:20, take another look at "the look" Michael gives & the shrug, that's definitely not directed at his fans. Also watch in the beginning when he's getting off the bus, he doesn't seem excited & the way he's surrounded by men, one of which is Randy Phillips? & then Thome Thome is holding onto his arm & ordering him where to go. Michael loves his fans we all know that, so when addressing them he is smiling & telling them he loves them, but he definitely has attitude at this announcement. & the chuckle show he was up to something that "they" (those who were controlling him & forcing him to do this) were unaware of. He was pissed off, they were trying to control him. He also is very vague in his announcement, I think for a reason. They told him to announce the shows, he did that & also said more without saying too much  ;) He was planning something, whether he accomplished it or not, I'm not sure about.

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I was thinking about how obvious the symbolism is in today's music videos, etc. & even back in the day in some videos. & I was trying to think of musicians who have spoken out about something going on. There's quite a few. It shows that people aren't just making this up, there really is something going on behind the scenes in the music industry. That's why all of the female artists who have popularity & beauty are being used as puppets now, it's like an epidemic among the female artists. First, Gaga, then Rihanna, then Beyonce, now Christina Aguilera, some say Shakira, Ke$ha, there's some talk about Alicia Keys. The list goes on & on. & then there's Jay Z, Trey Songz, Drake, Kanye, Nas, Swizz Beats, etc. So far the people I know of that have spoken out are:

MJ - We all know the things he's said & done to speak out against them.

Prince - I'm not sure exactly what he's said but I have heard that he has said something about it. & rebelled against it.
Britney Spears - Rebelled against it when she broke her mind controlled state, the whole shaving the head thing, the tattoo she got on the back of her neck. She checked into rehab & while there tried to commit suicide after running around screaming "I am the Antichrist!" When asked why she shaved her head, she said "I don't want to be touched anymore, I don't want people plugging things into me" She also said she was tired of her "handlers".

Whitney Houston - We saw her interview in which she discussed it.
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Tiffany Evans - Put a lot of information about it on her twitter & actually called Rihanna a Satanist. She later retracted her statements on twitter for fear of getting in trouble.
Here are her tweets:
    Russian Roulette= Suicidal Rate gon sky rocket!

    You gotta watch what u say. Because there are a lot of weak people in the world. They are susceptible to anything so anything you say or do some people actually do listen. So make sure its nothing bad. Its okay to be deep,but not murder deep.

    Man! I really wish I could tell you guys what the industry really is and what stars are apart of destroying this world. The stars who worship satan,and those who have killed to get the respect they have now. You’d be verrrry surprise. Some of your favorite people pretend to worship God but they only do that to save face. Or seem innocent.

    Satan was head of music in heaven. He uses influential people…to help influence the world. Think about that. Once u make a certain amount of money. Just know that that’s when they ask u to join. To get in you have accept the beast, worship. Once you join they assist u with ur career.make u huge.only if u agree and obey to destroy Gods word.and his children.

    Ppl listen and pay attention. Its a war going on right now between Good and Evil. Evil will rule this world for a min. The people that have this power are the people that RULE the whole world. I’m done I won’t say anymore before I get in trouble.

Miley Cyrus - During her appearance on Idol this season, she said she wasn't going to do music anymore because the music industry is very negative & she doesn't like it. She's going to focus on acting now. When Ryan asked her what she meant when she said the music industry is negative she didn't elaborate, she just said I'm just not going to be making any music for a while.


Tupac - Made a whole album about the Illuminati.

Omarion -
Here's what Omarion had to say about Rihanna/Occult rumors, btw idk about the MJ stuff, I believe he was a victim before who broke free & then outed them, so the Thriller album, thing could be true:
    I don’t personally know Rihanna’s beliefs but I think there’s a very dark and very sinister part of the entertainment business and I think it’s very visible,” he said. “This is something that a lot of people don’t look at [but for example] Michael Jackson used to be a Jehovah’s Witness and I remember hearing that he wanted to separate from the religion — and this was during the time that he was doing ‘Thriller’ [which ended up being] his biggest album.”

    Fast forward to now [and] it really made me think that there is a [time as an artist] where there’s going to be a choice. The[entertainment] world [dictates] that you have to be with three or four women, or do this in order to get that [and] I think it’s really interesting. With God and the industry, it’s really dark. The dark side is having to get in, there’s a certain submission you need to have. Just like a gang [initiation], so to speak. You might have to do something against your moral code. I’m not saying that it’s always this way, but when you’re someone that is young and you’re coming up in the industry and you really don’t have a grip on your morals it can be very dark. The game is just about over saturation.

    I don’t know if Rihanna [has fallen victim to those pressures]. I’ve never really heard her speak about it. I hope that she doesn’t believe in that stuff and I don’t think that she does, but I don’t know. It’s not just been a Rihanna thing, [there's has been religious speculation] about a lot of artists.

Anyone know of anymore?

Just trying to keep track of who has spoken out & what they have said & who is a part of those who are being controlled.

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References & Similarities / OMG! Craziest theory yet, Mariah Carey
« on: March 30, 2010, 07:07:26 AM »
I saw this somewhere, can't remember where...but people were talking about the possibility of Mariah Carey being Blanket's "surrogate" mother! LOL Has anyone else read about this? People were saying that Michael & Mariah were very good friends & that they may have been close enough, secretly or good enough friends that she could have actually been Blanket's mom. It's the craziest thing yet, because yeah Michael & Mariah knew each other & were friends but I don't think they were that close. Anyways, they went on to say that's the real reason behind her so called "breakdown" & being in the hospital & her not doing anything for a while back in 2000-something. Also, they talk about the Martin Bashir interview & mention when MJ says that she doesn't want to be in the spotlight & is under contract on both ends, his & hers, to not talk about it. They say Mariah would have a contract so that nobody would know but the two of them. They also say that's why he smiles & says that he does know her & later says he doesn't because she told him not to or something like that. Crazy right? They also were saying that's why it had been said Blanket's mom was Latino & that's why when Martin said so his mum is not black, Michael said you're wrong. Mariah Carey's dad is Venezuelan & Black. It's so random. They also claimed he looked kind of like her as well as of course MJ. I wish I could find where I read this again, it was another forum. What do you guys think about this? Mariah is also childlike in some ways, she was never allowed to be young & have fun because of Tommy Mottolla & supposedly, she called MJ for advice & to talk when she divorced Mottolla. Were they close friends? Idk about the whole Blanket's mom thing though, that seems too far fetched. LOL. & I don't see a resemblance, he's ALL Michael imo. Here's pics to compare just for fun though  :mrgreen:

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LOL. I had also heard people think these women could be his mom too.

* Grace Rwaramba
* Shana Mangatal
* Rushka Bergman
* Kai Chase (DOUBT IT)
* Tatiana Thumbzten
* Nisha Kataria (yeah right, she would've been a teenager when Blanket was born!)
* Lisa Marie
* Michelle Rodgriguez (Are you kidding me? Random!)

People come up with some crazy stuff.  :lol:  Why is everyone fascinated with who Blanket's mom is?! The people who need to know, know. It's not our business.  :roll:

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Janet Jackson / Just wondering about Janet's emotions...
« on: March 22, 2010, 03:35:36 AM »
I'm NOT judging her or trying to put her down, let me say that first & foremost. I am a huge fan of her as well. Anyways, I was just watching Why Did I Get Married? on tv. & there's a scene where Janet's character's husband is trying to talk to her about their son, who died because Janet's character (Patricia) didn't strap him in in the car. She does a great job of trying to avoid the subject & then when she breaks down, her emotion seems so real, I cried lol. Janet is such a good actress. & she cries in the new movie about to come out too. She does it so well. My question is, why is it so easy for her to hide her real emotion, when she's able to just release those tears like that while acting? I mean it could be that it's easy for her because she hides her emotions normally, I do that too. I just find it odd, that's all. We haven't really seen her cry or get emotional hardly at all after losing her brother. The most emotion I've seen her show since then is in the movie. I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just curious. Yeah, it could be because Michael is alive & that's what I'm getting at. Even though I hide my emotions & hate to cry in front of people, if I lost my brother, I don't think I could hold in the tears. I'd fight it, but I would still get choked up at least. She doesn't. It could be that they've all been taught since they were young not to cry or anything in public. But there are human emotions that no matter how much you try, they still come out. That says a lot to me. I wouldn't expect her to break down like in that movie but when she was interviewed by that lady, she was asked about whether they had tried to do an intervention & does she feel that she could have done more. If that was me talking, like I said I'm pretty tough to crack & I hold my emotions in, but I think even I would get upset at the thought of what more I could have done to save my brother who just died. What do you all think about that? I love Janet, so if it's just her being strong, then I commend her because I just don't see how she does it.

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I just watched the extended version of the Black or White video on ON DEMAND. & a lot of people on youtube & other forums that talk about the illuminati & symbolism have talked about this video, the end where he turns from a black panther to himself, then back to a panther again. I have heard that broken glass is some sort of symbol, he breaks all of the cars windows & throws a garbage can through a store window & also he touches himself A LOT in this video (haha which I just giggle at) I know people see that as a symbol too, plus then he kicks the fire hydrant (which is a phallic symbol) & it starts leaking, he tears his shirt & screams & falls down to the ground, after doing this he gets up & there's a growling voice, then he looks to the side & turns into a panther again. I don't know barely anything about the illuminati & symbolism but a lot of people talk about this & say MJ used to be a puppet or was being controlled by them until he woke up & realized what was going on. I myself don't really believe that, I think he was a target but he's too smart. I just want to know what you guys think about the symbolism in this video. Do you think he was a puppet? Or was being used by them? A lot of claims are on youtube & other forums, some saying he's been a into the illuminati stuff since the thriller days until the history era, some say he was being manipulated & controlled, some say he was a puppet & some say he's one of them. What do you guys think? Maybe he was under their control for some time but then realized what was going on & that's why he came out & spoke about it & what's going on. That would explain the illuminati theory, that they were after him, he's the biggest artist in the world, his fan base is global & they couldn't get him & he was adamantly speaking against them in public. Also one more thing, there's a lot of people who are talking about that "Another Day" song saying it is a worship song to Satan or something like that they also mention a couple of his other videos. He's also a big fan of Lady Gaga, who is out there specifically to be a puppet for the illuminati/mind control etc. & Beyonce who's being controlled to an extent by her husband, who's an alleged member. Those are things that are being thrown out there about him & the illuminati stuff. I myself think he's a fan of their TALENT, which they both have & doesn't pay much attention to all the symbolism since he probably knows about all of that & is aware that that's how the music biz is :roll: Opinions? Feedback? Info about symbolism, etc?

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Other Odd Things / Macauley Culkin - Oscars
« on: March 07, 2010, 09:11:13 PM »
So they did a little tribute to John Hughes & brought out some of the actors who have been in his movies. Mac was one of them. How is it that he can appear on this awards show to speak about John Hughes when he never even made a statement about Mike & he GOT EMOTIONAL!! Why is that? What about his good friend MICHAEL JACKSON? No tweet about his death, but he tweeted about John Hughes & what a huge loss it was. No statement about Mike, but he appears on the awards show & speaks about John Hughes. No emotion shown at the burial for Mike, yet he get emotional on the awards show talking about John Hughes....something's not right about that.  ;)

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