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Michael Jackson's Personal Debts Paid Off, Just In Time For Bad 25

On the eve of the Thanksgiving debut of Spike Lee’s Bad 25 documentary, the late Michael Jackson has a lot to be thankful for.

Yesterday a representative of the singer’s estate confirmed to FORBES that, on Monday, the estate paid off the last dollars on a loan connected to Mijac Music, the catalog that’s home to many songs composed by the King of Pop, including hits like “Beat It” and “Billie Jean.”

The payment means that the estate has eliminated the last of Jackson’s outstanding personal debts (FORBES reported last month that Jackson’s personal debts would be paid off by the end of the year). That’s no small feat, considering the pile obligations–roughly half a billion dollars–left behind by the singer when he passed away in 2009.

Jackson’s estate has been able to pay off that debt earlier than expected thanks to the enduring popularity of the King of Pop and his work, which spurred earnings of $145 million over the past year alone.
22 images Photos: The Top-Earning Dead Musicians 2012
My Next Book: Michael Jackson, Inc. Zack O'Malley Greenburg Zack O'Malley Greenburg Forbes Staff

Financial highlights since 2009 include a $60 million advance for concert film This Is It, which went on to become the most successful concert film in history with a worldwide gross in excess of a quarter billion dollars, as well as a new $250 million record deal with Sony, the largest ever.

More recently, the Michael Jackson Immortal World Tour–a joint venture with Cirque du Soleil–grossed $160 million during its first leg, making it this year’s top tour in North America. The show now moves abroad, and is currently wending its way through Germany.

There are still some business debts left for Jackson, namely a loan that FORBES estimates at $280 million, connected to the Sony/ATV publishing catalog.

But the loan’s interest rate of 2.9%, negotiated down from 5.8% shortly after the singer’s death, seems innocuous enough–and perhaps necessary for continued expansion of the company, which is half-owned by Jackson’s estate.

Meanwhile, the show goes on. Lee’s BAD 25 documentary, which celebrates the quarter-century anniversary of Jackson’s followup to Thriller, will air on Thanksgiving at 9:30pm Eastern time on ABC.

This Is It / This Is It Billy Jean
« on: August 11, 2012, 11:21:46 AM »
Hi Guys,

I was watching This is it for like the thousandth time. and Some thing bugs me... i really would like your opinons on this...

every time he takes his glasses off, well more when the moonwalk and when he does the part where he combs his hair and mimes make up and spins... it blurs more... can someone confirm that?? especially just after the mimeing of combing hair and spins. for a split second it appears to have a blur where his face is. Am i seeing things? I did do a frame by frame extraction but because of motion it naturally is blurred in places. That one place specifically seems to have a very quick blur.

it's just after 5:00


Other Hoaxes / The Carlos Hoax
« on: August 10, 2012, 10:53:23 AM »
Hi, I do not know if this has been added into the old archives (can someone tell me how to access them pleaseee?) so I thought to add it here, The reason I add it because I thought it gave some interesting points for a hoax and may give some more thoughts into the planning of a hoax :) Randi James is apparently a magician or as he calls himself at times an illusionist.

anyways here is the video..


I found a webpage about Ministry clowns and the more I read the more I thought of Michael.

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I will paste only where I saw Michael Jackson in what is written and put my thoughts...

3.  A historic clown idea was based on the idea that "the most powerful person in the world is the one who can give away power."  God did this when God entered into human flesh.  Hebrews 12:2  Jesus calls on us to be servants.  The cross, which was a symbol of suffering and death, now is seen as a symbol of victory and life.  In clowning, you give away your power in words and action to become a "fool for Christ's sake" (I Corinthians 4:10).
6.  God works through the principles of comedy.  In comedy there is a "bringing down" of someone and, through a non-heroic means, the person is lifted up higher and better than before....

We are called to be "fools for Christ's sake," to be weak so that others can be strong.  What an honor and privilege that calling is! (pp. 14-15)

I was thinking about the things he has set in motion through his career, the Masks, the wheel chair and the other little things he did that caused him to be laughed at and many people saw him as less than remarkable, thus elevating their own sense of 'greatness' with in themselves...

The makeup, sometimes he looked so white and there was always alot of focus on his nose all the time, don't clowns make a big thing out of wearing a red nose that often squeaks?

Is this the reason for it to be called a circus? he refered to his own concerts as a circus, I think in the history tour...

From about 5:30 if it doesn't take you to that time already...  the address is here which should take you directly to the circus part of his speach  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login


Just a thought, it does make sense to me, I'm not sure if it will to anyone else...

I apologise if this has been brought up before, I tried checking but I seriously can not get the search to bring up anything relevent of similar to what I want to talk about.

Off to bed I think,  it's 2:10am..Let me know what you guys think...

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Michael Jackson concert promoter wants dermatologist's medical records
Friday, July 06, 2012

LOS ANGELES (KABC) -- Attorneys for Michael Jackson's final concert promoter are asking his dermatologist to turn over the late pop star's medical records.

Jackson's mother, Katherine, is suing AEG, alleging it was negligent in hiring Dr. Conrad Murray. He is serving four years in prison for involuntary manslaughter in the death of the pop icon.

Now, attorneys for AEG Live are asking dermatologist Dr. Arnold Klein to turn over all of Jackson's medical records dating back to 1984. The attorneys say they need the additional documents to assist them in their defense of the company, and that they previously reached an agreement with Jackson's estate concerning the scope of medical records they could receive from the singer's physicians.

So far, Klein has handed over records from 2008 to 2009. A hearing on the issue is scheduled for September.

Jackson was set to perform 50 shows in London for AEG Live, but he died June 25, 2009, of acute propofol intoxication in Los Angeles while rehearsing for the concert series.

(Copyright ©2012 KABC-TV/DT. All Rights Reserved.)

I'm unsure if this has been already put here, I did a quick scan but couldn't see anything. Don't know if it's worth posting here, but it's about Michael, AEG and current things so thought i'd put it up.

The Numbers Theory / Gematria connections
« on: June 24, 2012, 09:44:10 PM »
Lots of fun looking at different numbers and the interesting words and number conbinations so thought to start this thread to add them as they are found

Ambulance 71
Im Alive in English Germatria Equals: 71
its fake   in Simple Gematria Equals: 71
im alive in Jewish Gematria Equals: 774
Hide The Secret in English Gematria Equals: 774

death hoax in Jewish Gematria Equals: 477

TMZ announced the the death at 2:44
The mask       in Jewish Gematria Equals: 244
the mask        in Simple Gematria Equals: 77

Doctor Murray

Doctor conrad robert murray is a character in Jewish Gematria Equals: 1954 <doh 1953 would have been perfect)
Conrad Robert Murray is a character in English Gematria Equals: 2010
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bam in Jewish Gematria Equals: 33
the final curtain call in Jewish Gematria Equals: 666
o2 arena in Jewish Gematria Equals: 177
this is it movie in Simple Gematria Equals: 177

o2 arena in Simple Gematria Equals: 54 (well his 54 August, got to have some hopes:P)

will modify when i find more coincidences

The Movie References / Pink Panther 2
« on: June 24, 2012, 11:02:56 AM »
Yes I know it came out in April 2009, I hadn't watched it until tonight

I tried searching to see if it had been said but it didn't seem like it and I can't seem to look at the old archived threads?

PLEASE PLEASE tell me it hasn't been brought up before,  let this be something new ;)it seems I was late and only have the bones to pick from since everything seems to have been throughly investigated. lol you all have definitely done a good job with the searching :)

okay..I did the best I could with understanding the fake french accent to write is as exact as I could.

"This case is very strange..."

"for 10 years tornado terrorized Europe stealing over a quarter of a million dollars of artefacts"
"then for no reason he suddenly stops!"
"maybe.... thought he had enough money"
"if he had enough money then why after 10 years of complete inactivity that he suddenly springs back into action!London
Jakarta, Italy(other counties names) Why all of a sudden... WHY WHY!!"

"That was 10 years ago, besides I never saw his face"

"How come.., you never saw his face?"

"He was in disguise"

He always wore a mask"

"did you call him Zorro?"

"or the power ranger?"

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"Excuse my intrusion there is a way to prove your innocence back in 1996...."

"yes yes yes he received a bullet wound in the shoulder"

"is this what it's come to? that I must strip down and remove my clothing in the sanctity of my own home
before a group of people i have only just met just to prove my innocent!?"

"well it wouldn't hurt"

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Anyways so there is 3 places at least in that movie which appear to connect to Mj.

and then the 4th.. which i believe has been mentioned before how everyone believed the Tornado is dead except for Inspector Clouseau...

The fact this came out before June.. So... If this was in fact in relation to Mj, how much of a part in this movie and it's script making or even requesting that these things are put in.

Random MJ Talk / Off couple of days
« on: June 22, 2012, 03:02:00 AM »
My grandfather passed away on the 17th June, one of the few family members who I was close to growing up, he showed me more affection than my own father, he lives in the UK and I haven't seen him in 14 years. it's been a real rocky few days.
Then my ex and his ex joined forces again and between me knocked the last bit of.... i don't even the know the word I should use...
I'm for the first time ever feeling like Michael might have died. Can't even look at a picture of him without feeling hurt. I think it's my granddads passing but doesn't explain the sadness when I look at Michaels images or his music.
I think tonight I'm going to go through everything that's already been found to be hoaxy to remind me to have faith and to feel it.

Just needed to put it here, since the people in my life seems to want to talk about their own feelings of this week and by the time I try and speak they have to go...

Charities / Out of the mind of a 5 year old
« on: June 17, 2012, 11:13:06 PM »

I was just looking back through the images that came out just after jun 2009, and then remembering the paramedics recounts of the day.

They said Michael Jacksons eyes were open, do they close the eyes before the announcement of death?? or would they leave them open?

I only ask because the picture in the ambulance, his eyes are closed

The Movie References / The Day the Earth Stood Still
« on: June 03, 2012, 10:07:25 PM »
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It's a December 2008 movie but I love it, I watched it again the other night after I found my DVD's and I would not have been surprised if it had been a movie Michael had a hand in, I am not sure if he did since I would think his name would be in the credits, it screams him although it's a remake of a 1951 movie as well...... A message about the earth and humans killing it, a big protective transforming gaurdian that protects the alien, the little spaceship things that act like a noahs arc of sorts and shaped like planet earth.

I quickly scanned this area of the board to see if anyone had mentioned it but unable to find anything.. but there is so much on this message board that it is easy to miss.

I think it's a great message to the world, same one as Michael was sending out. if you haven't watched it, I recommend it, really love the movie :D

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The journey of two foreign journalists to Asia has revealed that some North Koreans are still unaware that Michael Jackson is dead.

The two journalists who travelled to North Korea as businessmen and wrote about all the interesting points of their journey for the Newspapers said Televisions in the hotel where the journalists stayed show only government propaganda and only few foreign movies, something indirectly indicating "Home Alone, Happy Days and Titanic" are allowed to be displayed in the country.

In another interesting issue the journalist/businessmen observed, there are some residences nicely built in North Korea in which nobody lives, which were built only to show the country is rich, according to the journalist.

FRANCIS TAWIAH (Duisburg - Germany)

I found this interesting personally I use to have an absurd theory that he could claim he had no idea that he apparently died because he was somewhere without the news and had indeed had a decoy living his life so he could relax for a while.

I know it's basically one of those far reached theories because it does not add up on so many levels that's why I removed it as a theory but reading this I was reminded of that thought. I see no reason why they brought up the whole houses built part, it doesn't seem relevent to the subject of michael jackson and the 2 journalists not knowing he had passed away.

I haven't watched much of the trial Thus far, only up to day 8 But things have nagged me, I am unsure if it's been noticed and stated here but wanted to just put my observations I have made, that jumped out of the video at me.

In the second day of the trial.

I was listening not looking for clues and then the camera focus'd on Murray and I was watching him because I felt my heart breaking for him, Everyone says they see this arrogant man but I didn't see that, I saw a man who had been crying, I looked into his eyes and I almost sobbed the feelings i got from the man was not arrogance but deep sorrow and not because he was caught, I was about to turn away before I burst into tears and I suddenly I sat up straight.

There is a part where he scratches his nose, we all have an itch and it's a natural responce but this wasn't. It looked innocent i suppose to those who do not watch body language but it was not apart of the "flow" of his body language, it stood out to me. He scratched his nose with the tip of his index finger scratching upwards in a very uniform manner. I don't know but to me it just doesn't seem right, His looking at his lawyer while he does it. his eyes look like they are expressing something but i could be completely wrong on it

You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login   (at the end at 9:50) it just doesn't feel right to me. and even revising it now after 3 weeks I still maintain it's just odd.

Also the mention that Michael lost 10% of his body weight while rehearsing, I didn't see a man loosing weight, I saw a man starting to wearing baggy clothing, I personally thought he looked good on the 23rd June, he looked thinner in the other clips with the tighter clothing, but then wearing tighter fitting clothes will give that illusion.

Anyways back to the other SMALL things I noticed a lot of but can't give you the address or times in the videos because I would be here all day sifting back through them. I will instead just note what I saw in some of them thus far.

Mr flannagan - He randomly in the 8 days so far has gave sudden eye crinkling smiles and then gone back to straight face.

Michael Amir Williams told the truth up until the part of being at the hospital,  I thought he was being honest and he was pretty cool guy, until that point and something did not sit well with me, In part 10 when he said he left the hospital he had the sudden urge to scratch his nose, which can be a tell tale sign of lying and although it's natural to get an itch, something tells me this was an itch due to a lie than an itch because it was naturally itchy after that point it seemed he was very closed up and offered much less than he did prior to that. I noted down that when he first came on the stand and just before  spelling his name he looked in to the room it self and then glanced around like someone who was not allowwed to draw attention and realized and covered himself by looking elsewhere. Part 7 of day 2.

The woman in the uniform who sits at times behind the defense, Sheriff, warden, officer? I have no idea what you call them, she keeps looking around at and smiling but trying to hide it but not doing a very good job at the beginning of the trial day 2 I think or day 3, it really bothered me.

There was a few others that scratched their nose just after being asked a question or after answering a question, again not in the natural way, more in a defense way to guard them, as a way to cover up the lie they told or about to tell.

Now later on between day 4 part day 10 an alarm goes off, during the testamony with the 2nd paramedic who seems to need promping ALOT by the prosecutor, 2 minutes in after putting one of the peoples papers on to the projector it all just stops, she smiles at her partner then it flicks to Doctor murray and Mr Flannagen who appears serious at first suddenly who smiles then goes back to the straight face and looks up at the projector, I can't understand what the hold up is,m prosecutor asks for a moment.. more stalling.... and then..... alarm goes off which isn't consistance, you get 1 lot of 7 rings, then 4 rings, then 7 rings, then 4 rings, then 6 rings then 4 rings... then you get the defense attorny acting like a big kid and looking on the projector at what is on it while no one is apparently looking... In total the bell rang seven times, it's explained as an accidentle pull by a child.. I thought then.. Oh maybe it's michael wanting a moment to rehash and mention something that was not going the way it was suppose to! or a planned meeting.. who knows? I like to think it was :P 13 minutes later the judge decides to have a 1`5- 20 minute break.

I noticed there was an increase of council togather and speak with the judge after that. I had not noticed much approaching prior to that.

I won't even start with what was said during the trial since everyone heard it, I am more a person of detail, I notice the small things, most people are intent on watching a certain person and listen to what is said but i like to look around at the judge and what his hands are doing, where his body is facing, where he is looking, I like watching the background people like the sheiff type people, the guy behind the defense team, the woman who types everything said out, the sitting prosecutor and just watch what they personally are doing, how they are sitting, what their expressions are like... PIcky i suppose :P

Oh the 1 paramedic the passenger, when he gets to the stand he puts his water bottle on the surface then the judge asks that the last artifact be removed the paramedic keeps looking at his bottle, when the camera goes back to him the label is facing the camera, but the 2 witnesses after him were told to use cups and to remove the bottle. I find it interesting that this man makes such a fuss at looking at his, and is allowed for it to appear but the other peoples weren't allowed to be seen.

I am looking forward to listening to the rest and observing the room, I have missed many of my observations.. there is way too many I might just log it in order at some point and just post it all at once with the day and what part of the videos I was watching as reference.

Introduce yourself / Hi from Perth
« on: May 29, 2012, 11:58:41 AM »
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