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The Movie Theory / The Movie: Now You See Me, 2013
« on: March 14, 2014, 04:33:03 AM »
Has anyone see this movie? I just watched it and find it uncannily mirrors many discussions we've had about MJ, magic tricks, disappearing, film projects, ARG, sting operations and he FBI, illuminati and the Eye of Horus, V for Vendetta, etc.   and it even includes the only Black person in the film going to jail saying he was framed.  The son of a wronged magician gets his revenge...

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The master magicians are using misdirection/slight of hand to call attention to corrupt government and shisty   patrons of entertainment, as it were.  The master magicians are named The Four Horsemen and the one who completes the big "trick" is named "Jack Wilder". ( remember "call of the wild" is a fav of MJ's?)

Here's pic from promotional materials looking straight out of an MJ video with Fedora and all...

The movie ended with using the words BELIEVE, connect the dots..and it goes into explanation of the one eye( illuminati symbol)

This was just a reminder to me that I am still a faithful soldier of love in the MJ army. ( the movie even says something about "now it's your turn". As in the people/the audience. 

CNN reports that an important announcement is to be made by 10:45, EST.   It has nothing to do with Libya.  It is a statement of National Security.  CNN reports the announcement will be "dramatic" and "unprecedented".  

Wolf Blitzer says it justifies being so important that the President of the U.S. will go to East Room, on a late Sundy night, and address the  nation and the world.  "We cannot overemphasize how important this is."

Wolf also says this "may be something we've been looking forward to?"  That's strange. errrr

Staying tuned.

Random MJ Talk / Who YOU Are Makes A Difference!
« on: February 19, 2011, 06:33:38 PM »
It's vitally essential that our A.R.M.Y of L.O.V.E continue to spread Michael's message of truth, harmony, and charity as near and far as possible.

Lord knows, there's enough to be upset about these days and some of the recent events  have been quite distressing.   But we shouldn't worry because we have faith that Michael is alive and well and all is being revealed piece by peace... BAM!

In the meantime, how can we make a difference and love someone unconditionally?  

YOU Matter.   Who YOU Are Makes A Difference.  Share the LOVE!

Please, my fellow hoaxers, take a moment to view this short video.  It will be rewarding, I promise!

Messages to Michael / La Cantador
« on: February 12, 2011, 10:12:23 PM »
There are no words for how much I love this song and Michael.

I hope my forum friends like it too!  (You know who you are :) )


The Resistance / Steadfast TRUTH. Mubarak STEPS DOWN
« on: February 11, 2011, 10:06:37 AM »

Messages to Michael / You've Got The VICTORY, Michael
« on: January 31, 2011, 03:32:14 AM »

I've got, got the victory
I've got the sweet, sweet victory in Jesus,
Yes I do!
He is our mighty conquerer,
In Him I will trust, all my battles He'll fight.
I've got, got the victory
I've got the sweet, sweet victory in Jesus.
For me He died but He rose on the third day
That’s why I have true victory everyday!

[Verse 1]
Truly I've been through the storm and rain.
I know everything about heartache and pain.
But God carried me through it all
Without His protection I'd surely fall.
I’ve been broke without a dime to my name.
But all my bills got paid ‘cause I called on Jesus name.
You can't tell me that God isnt real 'cause I've got the victory and that's why I’m still here.


[Verse 2]
I'm not worried about material things I dont have
I just rest cause I’m sure in my Savior’s care
Because I know my blessing is on the way
I can't see it right now but I stand by faith.
I've fought many, many battles in His name
I held up the blood-stained banner and proclaimed
That Jesus is the truth and the light:
Believe me when I say He will make it all right!


Yeah I got the victory yeah
I got the victory yeah yeah yeah
[And if you have the victory sing it with me]
Yeah I got the victory yeah I got the victory
Yeah yeah yeah
[I've got the victory Sing it with me]

[Chorus out]

The Resistance / Fighting NWO and Demanding Democracy in Cairo
« on: January 28, 2011, 11:29:37 AM »
Cairo is on fire at this moment.  The protest in the street is fierce.

Sometimes, the call for democracy, peace and justice must begin and look like this.

It's only a matter of time before we see more protests against the NWO and autocratic regimes all over the world, and even in the US.   It's time.

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Random MJ Talk / Don't Stop 'Til You Get Enough
« on: January 26, 2011, 10:10:15 PM »
From the Website, Inner Michael
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Don't Stop Till You Get Enough
People have written from all over the world to say that they are "Michaeling." Michaeling means that they are surfing Michael and dabbling in all things Michael. They are at a loss to understand what is happening to them and within them.
They can't seem to get enough of Michael Jackson--his music, his videos, interviews, photos, conversations with his other fans. Some thought they were losing their sanity because it feels so much like an obsession. Spirituality and the quest for God has that kind of hook--it captures you, holds you and has its way with you.
Saints and mystics have written about this kind of experience for centuries. It' s called the God-intoxicated person. Yes, it can feel like an addiction because it is a form of intoxication--you can be drunk on God. You can be drunk on a spiritual vibe. The soul when thirsty, gorges itself on the sparkling nourishment that, once discovered, spirituality provides. Soul may drink and drink in the essence of that Presence because it may have been in the desert a long, long time.
Entering the spiritual path often comes from pain, from upset, from loss, from trauma. There is often a slaying of the normalcy of life. Things that were taken for granted no longer satisfy. The mundane world holds no magic and can even be painful for a soul that longs to soar.
Sometimes Spirit's entry comes in the form of a crisis that serves to threaten the very existence of the individual. An existential crisis is like experiencing an earthquake from within. Everything crumbles; nothing looks familiar; nothing is ever the same; life as it was once known and experienced is unrecognizable and sometimes becomes painful.
The questions that arise are existential questions: Who am I? Why am I? What is it all about? Why do I live? What is life for? What am I to do now? What is this? What is going on? Will this ever end? Why? What? Who? Why?
That is all compounded by the realization that: family and friends are not experiencing what you are feeling; they never have seen anything like this; they don't understand you; they think something is wrong with you; they can't bear to see you this way; they feel hopeless and helpless to help you.
One is achingly alone in this journey.  But know that your soul called it forth  to you and for you. The soul sent out a clear clarion call of great magnitude begging Spirit to come and quench. The soul has felt confined for so long that now it longs to be filled and set free.
So the person finds a corresponding vibe somewhere in the Universe and locks on. It entrains. It drinks and drinks from this fountain of life-giving spiritual juice. Michael held this frequency. Michael invited you to grow and become a spiritually mature being. Michael took your hand and said "Come; come and shine with me. Shimmer with your best self in the world. Give it back some sparkle. Take it to newer heights of Sparkling."
So there is no need to worry about the quest you are on. Not need to agonize over your obsession. The addiction doesn't need a cure. You are raising your vibration each time you touch this frequency. You are intoxicated with Michael because you are intoxicated with God. So go ahead and drink from the fountain Michael points you toward-- he is talking about the Force of Creation. Don't stop till you get enough."
Blessings and Peace,
Rev. B
"One Wordsmith" at Inner Michael

Michael Jackson News / OBAMA: Let's Live Up To Our Children's Dreams
« on: January 13, 2011, 01:52:53 AM »
President Obama gave an eloquent and meaningful speech last night at the memorial in Tucson, Arizona.

The first part of speech recognizes the slain and honors the heroes. The second half focuses on being the best that we can be for our children.  Start at 17:45.


TIAI ~ 2011 / TIAI January 13
« on: January 12, 2011, 11:30:48 PM »
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Re: Official General Prelim Discussion thread
by curls » Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:34 am

GramsGirl63 wrote:

I am still here because I am hoping to be proved wrong. I am about 99% sure that Mike is gone but even though I still have that 1% hope left it is still hope after all and so I will continue on coming here...There might be something that comes up that we have missed that points to an obvious hoax who knows. I simply cannot understand why IF Michael hoaxed his death that he would choose to go out in such a horrible and controversial way?

Why not a simple heart attack in his sleep?? That would have made sense too given the amount of stress he had been under these past few years. But now we have a big court case and a doctor involved. Surely there are other ways to die that would have caused less fuss? This has always been the one thing that I could never reconcile in my mind. I did think that Michael was helping the authorities bring down shady over prescribing doctors but now I am not even sure of that.

IF this is a hoax then it is the most realistic hoax that I have ever heard of. I will admit that some things are just crazy..It's crazy that a doctor of medicine could be just so darn right stupid for one...Words fail me..But who knows anymore?

I have to say that all the things you mention that lead you to think he's dead, lead me to think he's alive!

'Surely there are other ways to die that would have caused less fuss?' - I agree absolutely! ... that is if you wanted to disappear, if it was a natural death or even if it was murder. The fact that there is all this 'fuss' as you put it, all these inconsistencies and conflicting, ever-changing stories, fake or staged photos, questionable documents etc etc, lead me to think someone WANTS the circumstances around MJ's 'death' to be questioned. Would a murderer want this? I think not. If you wanted to disappear would you want this? I think not. A murderer or a 'disappearer' would have made a better job of things!

I recognise MJ as a supreme entertainer, a pioneer, an innovator in his art, a perfectionist who when told his grand ideas had never been done before, said that's why he had to do them, who loves magic, mystery and illusion and who promised 'the best is yet to come' .... IMO he WANTS the world to see his 'death' for what it is - the biggest production of his life!

TIAI ~ 2011 / TIAI January 10
« on: January 09, 2011, 11:39:59 PM »
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Re: Official General Prelim Discussion thread
by Serenitys_Dream » Fri Jan 07, 2011 6:57 pm

If a real body was procured, in some way, then the paramedics are telling the truth about the events of that day therefore they would not be in on the hoax. It explains why they would not have recognized Michael (because it wasn't him) and why it would seem that he had been "down" for a lengthy amount of time (because the body would be from a previously deceased person).

If a real body was procured, then an autopsy on this body would be contradictory to Michael's physical condition such as the lung ailments reported in the Autopsy report. These lung disorders would have made it impossible for Michael to sing/dance. But we see that he was singing and dancing in the movie "This Is It". At least two of the lung disorders, reported in the autopsy report, are related to smoking. One of them is usually only attributed to a smoker, I do not believe Michael was a smoker most singers and/or dancers do not smoke and Michael was not shown smoking in the many pictures taken of him. This therefore could mean that a single individual, a couple of people or no one at all from the coroner's office is directly involved in the hoax.

If a real body was used, the reports by the other witnesses who were present in the house, may also be accurate from their point of view. Using a real body, would diminish the number of people involved in the hoax, the less people actually in on the hoax...the more successful it would be. Less people, means more control over how things unfold and less chances of someone revealing the hoax before intended.

Given these things, it is possible that the trial is not a fake in itself. It may be that this a real court proceeding in an effort to show how the courts can be manipulated, as part of an ARG scenario and/or a sort of "live action drama" being played out before the entire world. A Vendetta even. This also shows how the legal system can get it so wrong, how the media can report things without really investigating or asking pertinent questions. It could also be in an effort to try to open the general publics eyes to the all the inconstancies, get them asking questions and awaken even more people to the idea that Michael Jackson is actually alive.

How else would the hoax gain more attention, beyond the believers, who are already aware of it. It had to go "Global" as in the media reporting this hearing or nothing would progress further than it has, we would be at a standstill.

On another note, the admitting name supposedly used at UCLA was Shaun Soule. The reason given for this was to protect Michael's privacy and prevent a crush of people and media coming to UCLA. Well we know that didn't work, National Photo Group was at Michael's house so it was reported anyway. But if they used an alias when admitting Michael to the hospital, why did they use a completely different one on the blood samples obtained from the body?
They autopsy report tells us that the vials of blood were labelled as "Gershwin" and this was the blood used for the reported testing in the autopsy report.

There would have been no reason to use two different aliases, one for the patient and one for the patient's blood samples. The using of the Shaun Soule alias did not even come out until weeks after June 25, 2009 so the use of a different alias on the blood samples wasn't required to protect Michael Jackson's privacy. These blood samples were taken prior to any death having been pronounced and when resuscitation efforts were still ongoing.I would think that it is procedure to label blood and other fluid samples with the same name that a patient is admitted under so that these samples can be matched up with the right patient when results are obtained.

So there must be another reason why two different names would have been used.

George & Ira Gershwin - brothers, composer/pianist & lyricist." Porgy and Bess" is their most renowned Opera. There most popular song came from this Opera "It Ain't Necessarily So".
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It Ain't Necessarily So - It's not as it at first seems, It's fake, It's not's a hoax.

Liza May Minnelli is an American singer and actress. She is the daughter of singer and actress Judy Garland (Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz) and film director Vincente Minnelli.
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Liza Minnelli's godfather is IRA GERSHWIN.
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Shaun - God's Gift
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Anglicized form of SEÁN
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SEÁN - God Is Gracious
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Irish form of JOHN
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JOHN - God Is Gracious, Merciful
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English form of Iohannes, the Latin form of the Greek name Ioannes, itself derived from the Hebrew name Yochanan meaning "YAHWEH is gracious". This name owes its popularity to two New Testament characters, both highly revered saints. The first was John the Baptist, a Jewish ascetic who was considered the forerunner of Jesus Christ. The second was the apostle John, who was also traditionally regarded as the author of the fourth Gospel and Revelation
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Soule - Obsolete spelling of SOUL
French verb
1. First-person singular present indicative of SOULER.
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1. (transitive) To get (someone) drunk.
2. (transitive, literary) To fill up as if with food.
3. (transitive) To confuse or extenuate with an unending flow of something.
4. (transitive) To figuratively intoxicate or overexcite.
5. (reflexive) To get drunk.
6. (reflexive) To consume excessively of something; to gorge oneself on something.
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Michael Jackson News / Statue of Michael Jackson Unveiled in China
« on: January 07, 2011, 08:36:14 PM »

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TIAI ~ 2010 / TIAI December 28
« on: December 28, 2010, 09:52:35 AM »
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Quote from: "2good2btrue"
Michael Jackson - Murray's Lawyers Win Extra Hearing
22 December 2010 12:16

Lawyers representing MICHAEL JACKSON's doctor CONRAD MURRAY have won an extra court hearing to ask for medical items found in the late star's bedroom to undergo vigorous testing as they battle to clear the physician's name.

The medic has pleaded not guilty to a charge of involuntary manslaughter following the singer's tragic death last year (09) and he is expected to go on trial in 2011.

A coroner ruled Jackson died of cardiac arrest brought on by an overdose of anaesthetic Propofol, and Murray's lawyers want two syringes and an IV bag, found at the star's Californian home, to be tested to determine the amount of drugs they contained.

Defence attorney, J. Michael Flanagan, argued in legal papers filed in a California court last Friday (17Dec10), "An essential fact in this case is not only how much Propofol was in Michael Jackson's body but how it was put into his body."

A judge has now granted the request for an extra hearing to decide whether the items should be sent back to the laboratory, according to the Associated Press.

Superior Court Judge Michael Pastor will hear the arguments on 29 December (10), just days before Murray is due in court for a preliminary hearing on 4 January (11) to determine whether he will stand trial.

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References & Similarities / Blue Gangsta
« on: December 27, 2010, 01:48:54 PM »
So, I've read the book by Bill Beeny which brought up some interesting points for me. I'm not saying I'm enthusiastic about his work, (after all, Bill Beeny is a self declared segregationist who led right-wing groups in the 60's and symphatetic to the KKK),
but some of what he says mirrors what we've read here and on Linda's website.

I am focused on the DEA relationship at the moment and wonder if this is a connection for MJ. it's been brought up before here and I'm coming back to it.  There are so many similarities with MJ and Elvis as TS has helped to point out so why not the DEA too?  I think  Morphine is a song expressing MJ's anger over doctors who get people hooked on prescription meds.  And, the military clothing, shields, badges, police force march, etc. come into focus a bit more now.

What stood out in the book is the mention that the jogging suits of the DEA are blue.
It made me wonder about the blue jogging suit on some of Back's posts and the song, Blue Gangsta.  I've been wondering what a  Blue Gangsta is...

And I'll never get the image of Marlon out of my  mind who wears an FBI cap in the Jackson reality series.  It seemed odd to me and very purposeful.  I always say that Marlon is very intelligent, articulate and purposeful.  I don't see him doing and saying anything without an intended meaning. The FBI hat being worn by a Black man in the U.S. is something that stands out to me.

If the Elvis/MJ parrallels can be taken to the nth degree, what's the DEA one really?  I'd like to know what a Blue Gangsta is and the connection with the blue jumpsuit/jogging suit on Back's posts that happen to be the color of the DEA jumpsuit.  I'm not sure if it's the same shade of blue but you get my point.

I know this has been brought up before but after reading this book last night, it comes into focus for me and I still don't know what a Blue Gangsa is!  Do you?

(by the way, this guy mentions that LMP is not the real Lisa.  I know that's been discussed here but the doubles keep coming up over and over...  I don' t know what to think about that.   He also says that a double was used for Elvis in the autopsy and the double was given plastic surgery. But the person in the casket was made of wax.  Just rehasing for anyone who's just catching up to all this like I am...)

About a year ago, this video project was a 50 part series that I think is being reformatted for distribution.

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The series is excellent and comprehensive with much that we've discussed: NWO theories as well as the music-industry (it's quite complimentary about MJ), and theological prophesies from the Bible and Qu'ran about the Second-Coming, anti-Christ, etc.

It appears that the Wake-Up Project website is under construction but do take a look at the trailer on the link above and you may be able to see parts 1 and 2 there as well.  The series is being formatted into a 10 piece DVD set.

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