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Michael Jackson News / Sony hacked..again
« on: June 03, 2011, 12:19:36 AM »
2 June 2011 Last updated at 23:15 GMT
A hacker group has claimed it has attacked the Sony network and stolen more than one million passwords, email addresses and other information.

Lulz Security said it broke into servers that run

Sony said it was aware of Lulz Security's statement and was investigating, the Associated Press reported.

In April, hackers broke into Sony's PlayStation Network and stole data from more than 77 million accounts.

That attack was considered the biggest in internet history and led to Sony shutting down the PlayStation Network and other services for almost a month.

The company has estimated the data breach will result in a $170m (£104m) hit to its operating profit.

Since then, Sony's networks have become targets for hackers and the company has confirmed at least four other break-ins prior to the claimed attack on Sony Pictures.

Lulz Security claims to be behind one of those attacks: an assault on Sony Music Japan.

The latest alleged attack will come as a blow to the Japanese firm, 24 hours after it announced the PlayStation Network would be fully restored in the US and Europe, and said it had beefed up its security systems.
'Asking for it'

In a statement on Thursday, Lulz Security said it had hacked into a database that included unencrypted passwords as well as names, addresses and dates of birth of Sony customers.

"From a single injection, we accessed EVERYTHING," it said. "Why do you put such faith in a company that allows itself to become open to these simple attacks?"

"What's worse is that every bit of data we took wasn't encrypted. Sony stored over 1,000,000 passwords of its customers in plain text, which means it's just a matter of taking it.

"This is disgraceful and insecure: they were asking for it."

The group also recently claimed responsibility for hacking the website of the PBS network and posting a fake story in protest at a news programme about WikiLeaks.

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References & Similarities / Interesting Tarot Reading
« on: May 29, 2011, 07:20:16 PM »

General Hoax Talk / TII - real or illusion?
« on: May 16, 2011, 02:35:10 PM »



I was browsing for the last 2 hours and i 've read so so many weird stuff going on around this hoax that i've decided to start this thread (if not here then where), so everyone - guest or member - to be in alert. I know we all can think for ourselves but a lot of freaks, smart psychos have their way with deceiving adults and god, children! If you find anything useful to be careful about please post it here !
For starter, here are few of my findings, i'll add more when i have time.

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Kathy's personal account
We have been watching this for a month to- Please check this out and see just how far this has gone. Please PM if you are a parent of any of the children involved and I will give you some important information. Some steps you can take as the parent of a minor involved with this scam.

Now we have these two creating channels posing as Michael Jackson ALIVE

Most of the ghost accounts were closed. Stephanie still has multiple accounts on YouTube. Some are children, some are fans, and some are not as fans.
Some may even be in your friends.

This doesn't mean we start pointing fingers at everyone we do not know.

This means "caution If you have a new friend, new account that is pumping you for certain information about others...or a new account that starts drama. Please watch yourself and watch out for your friends.

New fans do create account that are honest and may have a new account or created a new channel.

Stephanie and Kathy are predators.
They try to blend in to make their scams work and be realistic.
However Stephanie and Kathy get very agitated when their story line starts to crumble.

They lash out at the non-believers they turn to people that have be grooming as friends and plant evil seeds that takes the heat off of their scam and get's everyone upset and confused.

Do not let these two destroy your love for Michael and for your friends.

There is more than one Stephanie with fan accounts- I will try to refer to the Stephanie from this account as Steph/con or Steph c.

Please report anything you see that could indicate they are moving around, they are trying to be slick.

Just keep your eyes open for new accounts causing drama, or passing around secret codes that it is Michael. He would not take this chance after all he has been through. Alive or passed.

Kathy however claims she is in with Michaels family and they are getting married and as you can see she is claiming to be trying to get pregnant or is pregnant according to the deviant art comments. That is ridiculous. Stephanie is the one writing the comments as Michaels spirit. The same as she did here on You Tube.
People are getting confused that they are playing both sides of Michael being passed away as well as being alive.

Stephanie is still collecting children and saying it is Michael adopting them as his own. She still speaks freely and openly about the kids, and getting those children to also bring other children to her. Claiming Michael wants to surround himself with innocent children. These children are also subject to Kathy and Michaels Love Affair and trying to have a child- (of course Stephanie is the one claiming to channel Michaels spirit and he is the one who owns the account and he lives with her she also claims.)
This is completely inappropriate for children to hear how they love to practice making a baby and how they cant get enough sex, often commenting that they have just had sex or how much they do have sex.
Many of these children have created an account at to follow and speak to (Steph/AKA MJs spirit) Stephanie could not handle losing the children or the attention therefore she connected with them through Kathy, personal emails, and PM comments on You Tube and
Most of the people are children ages 10-15 that believe this to be Michael's ghost. Most are calling him(her) "daddy" they are calling Kathy "mommy. This is disturbing. These are young children.
Most of these kids are still here as well. They are still communicating with Kathy in a very inappropriate manner. If anything it has become an underground network of PMs and emails. They still will leave comments in public as well.

All these kids are calling (steph/MJ spirit ) him daddy ...
Stephanie deleted a bunch of comments but I have them. Stephanie has gone private with all of them now.
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(MICHAEL JACKSON spirit AKA Stephanie 21 adult bisexual female living with Michael Jackson's Spirit she claims)
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Those are just a few there are many more! You can check their profiles. She also has Children Profiles , and many fan accounts she uses to confirm her lies. She uses these as bait accounts. She is manipulating these kids and coaching them what to say, telling them to block anyone who doesn't believe. She is having them also bring more kids as I mentioned before.
Kathy has had her own children taken from her. She also admits to having a sexual relationship with a minor he was only 15-16. She claims the minor seduced her! She blamed everything on the child taking advantage of HER.
She lost custody of both of her children, they were taken by CPS (child protective services) She claimed once that is was because her house was dirty, then she claimed to have a rare disease, and child molestation occurring , however she claims she did not molest them but there was mention of this as valid reason to remove them as well.

Stephanie is a proud bi-sexual. She is the on that Types for "Michael" she claims and exploits his graphic sexual life as a ghost. However she contradicts herself by saying he can have sex and often borrows her computer to type his own messages.

She has some of them call her "peter as in peter pan, this is her way of hiding more easily and confusing people not involved. Her Kathy explains "peter".......

ABOUT MY BEST FRIEND PETER AKA OMGMiyazaki829 ok I'll explain my YT sister stephanie has been a medium since she was little so she has been able 2 communicate w/ spirits since then, which would probally freak most people out, after MJ death he met her spirit friend Jimmy, and she took care of both these spirits, he is still here b/c he was and still is a powerful psycic, which allows him 2 feel the pain of all his fans, my sister created this channel so he could communicate threw her 2 the people he loves dearly, we call him Peter for 2 reasons 1 my aunt gave him the nickname 4 Peter Pan 2 b/c we want 2 protect him and stephanie since there r certain trolls that think she is making this all up but there r 2 many people that has seen and felt him 4 this 2 b a lie he now goes around trying 2 heal peoples heart b/c thats how much he loves them, plus b w/ the love od his life Lisa Marie Presley

That is from Michael Jacksons spirits lover Kathy! (She claims to be engaged as well)
Below is a graphic PM from "MICHAEL'S Spirit Please tell me Michael would not be saying these things as his life has always been private. This is why they have to be stopped....

Lisa was my first... Lisa and I kept it going for fifteen years... After we had that fight, Lisa and I made love four times!!! And supposedly bumping and grinding to my music that night counts as #5...

Lisa was the only woman I ever felt fully comfortable having sexual feelings and relations with, before Katie.

Lisa and I... (blushes) Oh, why don't I just say it?

This Page is Comments taken from different Channels these are comments that are supposed to be from MICHAEL JACKSON'S Spirit (who has a youtube account) a woman named KATHY her accounts listed above. (Claims to be his lover! having sex with his ghost) Stephanie is the other Fraud pretending to be Michael Jackson. **She Claims She Types For Him** PLEASE START AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF THE COMMENTS Section on this page...this will explain everything. Please Comment and Pass this on . They Need to stop degrading his name. Support Michael's Name and Honor by spreading the truth about these liars. They will block anyone who questions their accounts. But if we spread the word people will be aware of them. Some fans are hoping they are talking to Michael Jackson's ghost and call them selves his children. It get's pretty sick when you see the comments that are supposed to be from Michael explaining graphic sexual acts with Kathy. Also Claiming to have these sexual encounters with LISA MARIE PRESLEY. they are vulgar and far beyond something Michael would post. They are also getting upset with fans who don't believe. They have made death Threats as you will see in the comments. Please stop Fans from getting fooled by these frauds.

I FELT SICK READING IT! Please, contribute to this thread with any information you read about possibly dangerous sick people outthere who take advantage of this hoax and can literally cause life dramas if not suicides!

no cryptic message,plain and simple.
apparently this person used to be under the username Imissyouall09
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if you ca watch his other uploads please share what he says, i can't because of the country permission.


Ideas & Suggestion for MJDHI / Slow forum
« on: May 08, 2011, 07:38:42 PM »
Migration done, but forum still tooo slow. How is it for you?

References & Similarities / Similarities Jesus - Michael
« on: April 29, 2011, 04:55:08 PM »
I love Jesus and for me Jesus is God = Love = Truth. Jesus is perfection so i never compare a human being with him.
But Michael's message is so similar that you have to be blind not to see it. From the Bible i understand that Jesus ' second coming will not happen, but there will be a messenger. Should we dare to even think?

Here is a very interesting article i 've read and the possibily that Jesus might have faked his death too blew me away..

In the Qur'an God provides accurate information about the crucifixion of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh), which is described in the Gospel with contradictory and doubtful explanations. In the Qur'an, God makes it clear that SCHEMES MADE TOWARDS THE PROPHET JESUS (PBUH) ARE THWARTED AND THAT THEY CERTAINLY DID NOT KILL HİM:


and their saying, ‘We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Messenger of God.' THEY DID NOT KILL HIM AND THEY DID NOT CRUCIFY HIM but it was made to seem so to them. Those who argue about him are in doubt about it. They have no real knowledge of it, just conjecture. BUT THEY CERTAINLY DID NOT KILL HIM. (Surat An-Nisa', 157)


In the Qur'an, that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) was not killed is stressed twice in the same verse and it is stated that those who advocate the belief that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh)  was killed have no real knowledge of it. This is a very clear statement.


Someone resembling to the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) was crucified:


In the same verse in the Qur'an God reveals, "They did not kill him and they did not crucify him but IT WAS MADE TO SEEM SO TO THEM." (Surat an-Nisa', 157), and informs us that the person who was crucified was another person who was resembling the Prophet Jesus (pbuh). The individual who was crucified instead of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) was Judas Iscariot, who acted treacherously towards the Prophet Jesus (pbuh). As a great miracle, God made Judas Iscariot seem like the Prophet Jesus (pbuh). When they came to take the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) to crucify him, they took Judas Iscariot who was present there and crucified him.


Besides, because Judas Iscariot's face was covered with blood, people also did not understand that it was not the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) who was crucified. In the latter part of Surat an-Nisa' 157, God relates, "They have no real knowledge of it, just conjecture."


Indeed, in the Gospel, the words which are conveyed as the last words of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) ["Elohi, Elohi, lama sabachthani?" which means, "My God, My God, why have You forsaken me?"], is again a continuation of the same delusion and the expression of disbelief in question belong to Judas Iscariot, whose plot was thwarted and was crucified instead of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh). Indeed, it is obvious that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh), who was a servant of God who wholeheartedly submitted to God and loved Him, could not have told these words. One can only expect to hear such rebellious expressions from a hypocrite.


The disappearance of Judas Iscariot according to the Gospel:


Parallel to what is revealed by the verses of the Qur'an and these explanations also supported by various sources, there are passages in Gospel that may provide evidence that a disciple of the Prophet Jesus (pbuh), Judas Iscariot, was crucified instead of him. According to these passages we need to notice that just after the crucifixion Judas Iscariot disappeared. Various Gospel authors try to explain away this subject in many ways and have contradicted with one other. The contradictory explanations regarding the disappearance of Iscariot in the Gospel is as follows:


Early in the morning, all the chief priests and the elders of the people came to the decision to put Jesus to death. They bound him, led him away and handed him over to Pilate, the governor.


When Judas, who had betrayed him, saw that Jesus was condemned, he was seized with remorse and returned the thirty silver coins to the chief priests and the elders. "I have sinned," he said, "for I have betrayed innocent blood." "What is that to us?" they replied. "That's your responsibility." So Judas threw the money into the temple and left. Then he went away and hanged himself. (Matthew 27: 1-5)


In those days Peter stood up among the believers and said, "Brothers, the Scripture had to be fulfilled ...through the mouth of David concerning Judas, who served as guide for those who arrested Jesus—he was one of our number and shared in this ministry."


With the reward he got for his wickedness, Judas bought a field; there he fell headlong, his body burst open and all his intestines spilled out. (Acts 1: 5-18)


Despite the fact that some explanations in the Gospel contradict with one another, there is consensus on the disappearance of Judas Iscariot just after the crucifixation. Judas Iscariot disappeared, because the one who was crucified and killed was Judas Iscariot. Judas Iscariot, who normally looked like the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) in the physical sense, was made to seem more like the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) as a miracle of God. Upon this, soldiers were mistaken and took him to the crucifix instead of The Prophet Jesus (pbuh). Just before this incident, by God's command, the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) was taken to the heavens by angels, into the Sight of God.


In the Qur'an God informs that the plot against the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) was "thwarted":


In the leadership of Judas Iscariot who was a hypocrite, unbelievers plotted against the Prophet Jesus (pbuh). The purpose of this plot was to kill the Prophet Jesus (pbuh). However, in the Qur'an God INFORMS US THAT THE PLOT AGAINST THE PROPHET JESUS (PBUH) WAS THWARTED. If, in one way, The Prophet Jesus (pbuh) died, this would mean unbelievers' plot coming to a favorable end on their part, and this is impossible. THAT PLOT WAS THWARTED. THE PROPHET JESUS (PBUH), IN NO WAY, DIED AND WAS NOT MURDERED. God informs us about this fact in the Qur'an thus:


When Jesus sensed disbelief on their part, he said, ‘Who will be my helpers to God?' The disciples said, ‘We are God's helpers. We believe in God. Bear witness that we are Muslims. Our Lord, we have faith in what You have sent down and have followed the Messenger, so write us down among the witnesses.'THEY PLOTTED AND GOD PLOTTED. BUT GOD IS THE BEST OF PLOTTERS. (Surah Al ‘Imran, 52-54)

If the plots of unbelievers succeeded, this would surely be related in the Qur'an. On the contrary, we know from the Qur'an that the plots against the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) came to nothing and that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) was raised to the Sight of God.



It is a great blessing for sincere believers that a stealthy plot against The Prophet Jesus (pbuh) was thwarted:


Despite very clear evidence, those who insist on the claim that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) was killed should think wisely and re-read the Qur'an with an open mind and and keep their mind free of any prejudices. The Prophet Jesus (pbuh) did not die; he was honorably raised to the heavens. For a sincere Christian, there is no meaning in being insistent upon the claim that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) was killed. For a Christian, it is a blessing to know and believe that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) did not die, that he was saved from the plots of unbelivers and that he is in our Lord's Sight. Insistently turning one's face from such glad tidings, not wanting the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) to be alive despite all these facts revealed is a strange attitude.


Some Christians claim that Muslims object the belief that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) is not alive, because they think it is unbecoming for a prophet to suffer. However Muslims believe in it simply because it is stated so in the Qur'an. The key point that deserves mention here is the following:


Surely God has tested Prophets with various affliction, hardships and trials. As a requisite of the trial in this world, God also granted temporary triumph to unbelievers. But God never lets His Prophets to be in a state that will, in the eyes of unbelievers, make them seem as if they were weak. Accordingly, such a state also holds true for the Prophet Jesus (pbuh). Believing that the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) did not die is also good for Christians. Indeed, in the End Times when the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) will be sent back to earth, Christians will see that he has no scar on his palms or feet. In the End Times in which we live the Prophet Jesus (pbuh) will come back to earth with the clothes, belongings he had on 2000 years ago, and the money dating back to 2000 years. When these happen, Christians will be better convinced.

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At some parts, i had the feeling that i am reading about our hoax.
What do you guys think?

Introduce yourself / Hi all
« on: April 29, 2011, 04:07:15 PM »
I've been reading this forum for some time and  i wanted to say hello to all members, moderators and admins.
Your posts are very interesting and you sure invested much time here, congratulations.
I am 80% Michael is alive, my gut and common sense usually helps, i save my 100% for a comeback.

Here is a short resume of my thoughts:

I still try to understand why the children's faces were shown before his "death" if this hoax was being planned for a long time - wouldn't it have been much easier for them to secretly meet their father after  if they remained unkown?

I believe the trial is real, because i have no pertinent conclusions for how a court could be set like in a movie.

I think Murray's role is a scapegoat, fallen head in case Michael never comes back. (did Joe say something like that too?). If he comes back he would do it during the trial, that seems logical. If not, Murray would go in prison and Michael wouldn't be legally able to come back.

I am no sure of the FBI involvement in this hoax, if Michael is in a witness program protection and covered by FBI then the trial makes no sense. But on the other hand:  no FBI = bribery.  This is not good also because it's not a sign of a comeback. Obvious consequences for Michael and the ones helping him (who might have been bribed to help the hoax at the beginning). I am also thinking about this trial, misleading the court knowingly for years. No country allows it i am sure. Even with FBI involved, is anyone above law? MJ? FBI? Maybe a Cali lawyer's help needed in our speculations.

"This is it" is a film for sure but is it directed by MJ or by AEG or by Kenny? Still don't know.

Reason of the hoax?
1. Death threatnings? Seems most reasonable explanation. But Michael used to hide in his life a lot without people knwoing his location. And he would have find a less painful way to escape, he was probably threatened so much during the years that i really can't take this reason too serious. Plus taking the children with him would have been part of his plan.
2. A tool for FBI to reveal the dangerous facts and people. For me it's not a good reason because i am not sure of FBI yet. And i don't see what he could possibly had to shockingly expose using such a drastic measure. And for what? As Latoya said: Family first.
3.Planning it for years (for whatever reason) and this was the perfect moment to fulfill it. Why now? Leaving his fans, leaving his obligations, is this not deceiving or fooling everybody, fans especially ? Why adding deception and so much drama? :cry:
4.Emergincy. Forced to do it at that point for ...whatever reason. Michael didn't want to leave his fans, but had to. Michael didn't want to leave his children, but had to. Michael didn't want to leave his life. But had to.
Maybe one day we will know why.

Sorry, long introduction :lol:

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