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Yep it all does seem strange.....I wonder will the nurse testify in the upcoming trial? True I mean think about it....if the nurse had never came forward to zone in on this drug.....we may have never known about MJ using it or......the coroners would not have tested the "body " for it!

Strange how she came out a few days after the "death" and said this propofol stuff.....almost as if she acted on cu :? e!

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TMZ Articles / Re: Mumbling Voices
« on: February 03, 2011, 07:02:37 PM »
Yeah I guess Murray could have been coughing and mumbling to himself?

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Police searching for missing tapes
« on: February 03, 2011, 06:24:36 PM »
Ok I know I am putting my neck on a chopping block when I say this but ummmmmm

WHAT IF MJ HAD COMPANY OVER AND WANTED TO MAKE LOVE OR SOMETHING U KNOW? MJ BEING AS PRIVATE AS HE WAS WOULD NOT WANT SECURITY OR STAFF WATCHING HIM RIGHT! And I am very serious. :oops:

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TMZ Articles / Mumbling Voices
« on: February 03, 2011, 06:10:01 PM »
OK guys this is really something. Now that we have Sade coming out talking about her phone call with Murray. When she says that she heard coughing in the background and mumbling voices......could the coughing have been MJ? ( I know dumb question) or who in the hell could have been in that room with Murray? :( Because if we go by what we heard from this woman then.........There was definitley more than MJ and Murray in that room! And this is.....well.......Sad! :( I belive this definitley adds a new twist into the investigation how I do not know. Your thougts?

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Other Odd Things / Gasp........
« on: February 03, 2011, 02:54:11 PM »
Sorry I could not think of what else to call this thread. :oops: Anywhoo! A few weeks back , CNN was covering various parts of the preliminary hearing. And the reporters (the big thing that particular morning that I was watching it) was there was something said in court during this hearing that made the Jackons's Gasp!! Like out of Hurt and Grief! :( I have been trying to figure out what it could have been. I know that all of the details sorrounding MJ"S death has not been good and is hard for any of us to really read or listen to......but this Gasp from the Jacksons during this part of the hearing struck a nerve with me. Anybody know what it was? Thanks. :?

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Hoax Videos / Re: Piano Games New Video 1/28/11
« on: January 30, 2011, 01:03:48 AM »
Does make you wonder who was in the car with the kids though. :shock: Bodyguards but no they would not be driving that car right? :?

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Michael's Business & Alleged Debt / Business Savvy
« on: January 28, 2011, 12:21:18 PM »
Hi, I was just sitting here thinking about Everything. I viewed bits and pieces of the AEG contract. And that contract is total B.S. I mean we all know MJ was a very smart business guy. I totally freaked out when I read the clause regarding the Catalogue? Correct me if I am wrong but does the AEG contract state that if MJ did not perform he would have to give up that catalogue? There is nooooo way on earth MJ would have been that naive. At least I do not feel he would have. :(
MJ would not have signed anything like this? I wonder are there people who specialize in looking over musical contracts (well I guess that would be an entertainment lawyer's job right :roll: ) I just wish MJ would have never ever even gotten into this. Because if anyone of you have read the entire AEG contract and are pretty good at breaking the legal terms of the contract down. Then you would know the contract is total B.S. seriously! I miss him so so much! Not fair. Your thoughts?
I had a dumb friend tell me that is why MJ was drugged up so that he would not know what he was signing at that time. Thanks.

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TMZ Articles / Re: Michael Jackson's Son Gets His Game On
« on: January 26, 2011, 01:44:19 PM »
I am glad to see Prince enjoying himself out in the public. I just miss his dad soooo much. :(

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TMZ Discussion / Re: A cordiologist told TMZ Michael is dead ?
« on: January 24, 2011, 08:54:08 PM »
Quote from: "sk2001"
I found this article that discusses the death certificate! No where does it say a valid dc can be signed by a relative. Infact it is only valid if the doctor/ surgeon incharge signs it. It talks about how people can create fake documents for fake deaths.
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A death certificate is the official document that declares a person is dead. Death certificates serve two purposes: they prevent murder cover-ups by restricting those who can complete them for non-natural deaths to trained officials who generally have great latitude on whom they perform postmortem examinations, and they provide public health statistics. Death registration was first required in the United Kingdom in 1874. Before then, it was not even necessary for a physician to view the corpse. In the United States, Great Britain, and most industrialized countries, physicians must now sign a death certificate listing the presumed cause of death. Otherwise, a medical examiner (forensic pathologist) will intervene with an autopsy to determine the cause of death in the event that a case requires police investigation.

People use death certificates in multiple ways. Survivors need death certificates to obtain burial permits, make life insurance claims, settle estates, and obtain death benefits. Public health departments look for patterns that may signal specific health problems, such as clusters of cancers that may reveal unknown toxic waste dumps.

There are three types of death certificates in the United States, including a standard certificate, one for medical/legal cases, and one for fetal or stillborn deaths. All but two states require a death certificate for fetal deaths. However, the majority of states only require a certificate if the fetus was past twenty weeks of gestation. All are based on the international form agreed to in 1948 (modified for clarity in the United States in the 1990s). This form lists the immediate cause of death (e.g., heart attack, stroke), conditions that resulted in the immediate cause of death (e.g., gunshot wound to the chest), and other significant medical conditions (e.g., hypertension, atherosclerotic coronary artery disease, or diabetes). The form also includes a place to record whether an autopsy was performed and the manner of death such as natural, accident, suicide, homicide, could not be determined, or pending investigation.

Death certificates are occasionally used to fake a person's death for insurance fraud and to evade law enforcement officials or irate relatives. "Official" Los Angeles County death certificates, for example, were readily available in the mid-1990s for between $500 and $1,000 each. For fraudulent purposes, people have often used death certificates from remote nations and from countries in turmoil.

To complete death certificates, funeral directors first insert the decedent's personal information, including the name, sex, date of death, social security number, age at last birthday, birth date, birthplace, race, current address, usual occupation, educational history, service in the U.S. armed forces, site and address of death, marital status, name of any surviving spouse, parents' names, and informant's name and address. They also include the method and site of body disposition (burial, cremation, donation, or other) and sign the form. The responsible physician must then complete, with or without using an autopsy, his or her sections of the certificate. These include the immediate cause(s) of death; other significant conditions contributing to the death; the manner of death; the date, time, place, and mechanism of any injury; the time of death; the date the death was pronounced; whether the medical examiner was notified; and his or her signature. The death certificate then passes to the responsible local and state government offices, where, based on that document, a burial permit is issued. The death certificate, or at least the information it contains, then goes to the state's bureau of vital statistics and from there to the United States Center for Health Statistics.

Funeral directors often struggle to obtain a physician's signature on a death certificate. In an age of managed-care HMOs and multispecialty clinics, they must not only locate the busy practitioner for a signature, but also identify the correct physician. Survivors cannot bury or otherwise dispose of a corpse until a licensed physician signs a permanent death certificate or a medical examiner signs a temporary death certificate. Medical examiners (or coroners) list the cause of death as "pending" until further laboratory tests determine the actual cause of death. Except in unusual cases, disposition of the remains need not wait for the final autopsy report, which may take weeks to complete.

After the death certificate has been signed, local authorities usually issue a certificate of disposition of remains, also known as a burial or cremation permit. Crematories and cemeteries require this form before they will cremate or bury a body. In some jurisdictions, the form is combined with a transportation permit that allows the movement or shipment of a body. The need for regulation of death certificates became evident in 1866. When New York City first installed an independent Board of Health in March 1866, city police inspected the offices of F. I. A. Boole, the former city inspector. According to the New York Times, police found a large number of unnumbered burial permits, which Boole had already signed. They claimed that Boole had been selling these to murderers who used them to legally bury their victims' bodies.

Public health policies depend heavily on the mortality data from death certificates because they are the only source of information about the causes of death and illnesses preceding death. For example, when Italy's Del Lazio Epidemiological Observatory reviewed 44,000 death certificates, it found that most diseases divided neatly along class lines. The poor died of lung tumors, cirrhosis of the liver, respiratory diseases, and "preventable deaths" (appendicitis, childbirth complications, juvenile hypertension, and acute respiratory infections). Well-to-do women had higher rates of breast cancer. It also found that the incidence of heart disease, strokes, and some cancers did not vary with income level. These findings have had a significant impact on how the Italian government funds its health care system.

Yet the accuracy of death certificates in the United States is questionable, with up to 29 percent of physicians erring both as to the cause of death and the deceased's age. About the same number incorrectly state whether an autopsy was done. Less significant discrepancies occur in listing the deceased's marital status, race, and place of birth. Death certificates of minority groups have the most errors. Only about 12 percent of U.S. physicians receive training in completing death certificates, and less than two-thirds of them do it correctly. Several do not appear to believe that completing death certificates accurately is very important.

Many certificates are meaningless because physicians complete them without knowing the real cause of death. Listing "cardiopulmonary arrest" signifies nothing—everyone's heart and lungs eventually stop. The important point is why? An autopsy is often needed to answer this question. Occasionally, autopsy, pathology, or forensic findings appear after a death certificate has been completed. If it is within three years of the death in many jurisdictions, the original physician-signer need only complete an amended certificate to correct the record.

Disguising deaths from alcoholism, AIDS, and other stigmatizing causes of death on death certificates is widespread. This practice appears to be more common where medical examiners' autopsy reports are part of the public record. For this reason, some states may eliminate the cause of death from publicly recorded death certificates.

Physicians obscure information on some death certificates to protect a family's reputation or income, with listings such as "pneumonia" for an AIDS death or "accidental" for a suicide. Even before the AIDS epidemic, one researcher found that in San Francisco, California, socially unacceptable causes of death frequently were misreported—the most common being alcoholic cirrhosis of the liver, alcoholism, syphilis, homicide, and suicide.

A similar problem with the accuracy of death certificates has been reported in Great Britain. The Royal College of Physicians of London claims that 20 percent of British death certificates incorrectly list the cause of death. In one instance, for example, the number of reported suicides at Beachy Head (a popular spot at which to commit suicide by jumping into the sea) diminished by one-third simply with a change in coroners.

Physicians who complete death certificates in good faith are not liable to criminal action, even if the cause of death is later found to be different from that recorded. Fraudulent completion to obscure a crime or to defraud an insurance company, however, is a felony.

Occasionally, fake death certificates appropriate real people's identities. Such false death certificates are especially distasteful to victims of this fraud who are still alive and whose "death" causes officials to freeze their assets, cancel credit, revoke licenses, and generally disrupt their lives.

Deaths that occur aboard ships are handled very differently. For example, British captains register any crew or passenger death in the ship's log, the information approximating that on a death certificate. On arrival at a British port, the captain must report the death to harbor authorities, who then investigate the circumstances.

Death certificates and other standard legal papers surrounding death normally cost between $1 and $5 each. The funeral director usually obtains these forms and itemizes their costs on the bill. In cases where a body must be shipped to a non-English-speaking country, the forms must often be translated at an additional cost.
Dont shoot me but do we without a doubt have the Final death certificate? I know there were like 3  :oops: floating around at one point in time.

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Quote from: "everlastinglove_MJ"
Whether this is a truly based article or has a reliable source or not, I think it is very sad but true that in the entertainment industry there are only a very few people to be trusted. Unfortunately we cannot detect $-signs eyes :shock:  and when a family member or a "friend" is introducing someone to Michael, I think it's quite logical that at first he accepts this person because he trusts his family/friends, at least I would imagine that. I don't know if Randy swindle MJ out on purpose and possibly that this money smelling shark, Don Stabler, has a lot of sly persuasiveness. Anyway, Stabler's true evil character appeared when there was no deal :evil: Bad intentions or not, Randy owes Michael alot, at least a part in the hoax.
Yeah reminds me of Jermaine introducing MJ to Thome :evil: .

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General Hoax Talk / Re: Help me THEY ARE TRYING TO KILL ME!!!
« on: January 18, 2011, 10:11:48 PM »
Quote from: "Integrity"
Greetings,

I still believe Mike is ALIVE but just think about this and give me your opinion!!

How many people may I ask all of you did Michael Jackson cry out to?
How many people did he tell that they were trying kill him?
How many people did he tell that his life was being threatend?

1. Dick Gregory said that Michael Jackson told him that they were trying to poison him!
WHAT DID HE DO TO SAVE HIS LIFE ????????????????????????????????????????????????????
2. LIsa Marie Presley said he called her and gave her a list of names of people that were trying to kill him...
WHAT DID SHE DO TO SAVE HIS LIFE???????????????????????????????????????????????????
3. His mom Katherine also said he told her that they are trying to kill me!
WHAT DID SHE DO TO SAVE HIS LIFE????????????????????????????????????????????????????
4.His spirtual adviser said MIchael called her and told her that he was afraid for his life afraid of his manager and on and on....
WHAT DID SHE DO TO SAVE HIS LIFE????????????????????????????????????????????????????
5. Latoya also said on Barbara Walters that Michael told her that someone was trying to kill him!
WHAT DID SHE DO TO SAVE HIS LIFE????????????????????????????????????????????????????

If there is anyone missing that Mike sought help from please add them to the list!!

I have never had anyone call me and tell me that someone was trying to kill them but
I would try with all my heart and strength to help them.
WHY DID THEY DO NOTHING??  :(
You are soooo soooo right! I mean WTH! Nobody helped him, are we to believe that MJ just went around saying Someone is trying to kill me and......MJ just wait like a dam duck! NO WAY ! NO WAY! :(  So ummmmmmm what gives?

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And let us not forget the kids were in  Hawaii

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References & Similarities / Re: Michael Jackson: Halloween 2008 Revisited
« on: January 16, 2011, 08:08:25 PM »
Dam!!! MJ read and paid attention to everything!!!! :?

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Dr. Conrad Murray / Re: MILKMAN
« on: January 11, 2011, 07:31:58 PM »
Quote from: "nefari"
Those cherubs placing the crown on her head is just too much like the art on the Michael album cover! This has got to be a HOAX. OMG more and more coin-kee-dinks.
Good point nefari because how in the worl would the album creators know to put that on the album...I am really really about to bust OUT of my straight jacket for real :? !

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General Hoax Talk / Re: MJ bodyguards' message on Facebook ...
« on: January 11, 2011, 07:26:25 PM »
Quote from: "suspicious mind"
this is the second time something coming from them has given me a bad feeling in by gut. don't know why exactlyl but i know my gut and he has a fairly good track record.
Just curious...what gives you the bad feeling?
For me I kinda was tripped out by how they did those interviews discussing MJ's love life and so forth and also how they are writing a book and also......HOW THEY ARE CHOOSING NOT TO SUPPORT THE NEW ALBUM....so I am sorta with you when you say your gut feeling.

But on the other hand...THEY ARE MJ"S BODYGUARDS!! How long have they been with them.? surely they know the full details of the 2005 trial right? Come :?  :shock: one!

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