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I think it's kind of funny that is an army for "LOVE" and they come on here badgering about copyrights from another group for an army of "LOVE" and all for the same person. Man...why you causing drama?

Where's the love?

Enough with fun.

what fun?

Michael is the orginator of the concept of Army of Love- and it is about standing together with, infront and behind him.

That is very true. Looks like Army StaffOfficial could have their own lawsuit when MJ gets back  :D

Your logo is a registered trademark. That and copyright are completely different. Trademark protects brand names, literally marking items in trade. The idea behind trademark is to protect the consumer by giving them some confidence that items branded with a certain mark are authentic and come from where they purport to come from.
Who are you trading with and what is it that you are trading?  If you are doing any kind of trading with anyone using Michael's name without consent from the Estate you are in some mucho trouble. I certainly wouldn't be starting feuds on the internet if I were you.

Copyright protects creative expression that has been reduced to a tangible form, such as a book, piece of recorded music, computer program, screenplay, painting, photograph, or motion picture.
That is your website if you have chosen to copyright. WWWMJJARMYOFLOVE.COM

Has nothig to do with this. You can even patent an idea, but I'm sorry you simply can not claim a phrase for youself. Not possible.

I find an undying urge to think that TS may be giving us a sign as to who they are or who they are associated with. This person said that they don't have to do daily redirects if they don't want, but I noticed a pattern that when the redirects are daily (especially as of late), they tend to be about LMP. And now after noticing that and this redirect happening on LMP's birthday.....

Happy Birthday Lisa. Give Michael a hug from all of us!!!

[by Serenitys_Dream » Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:41 pm]

MJ says that we only have four years left so we are assuming he is talking about 12/21/2012, the end of the Mayan calendar and even says in his lyrics "the planets are linin up so we are bringing a message".  The start of the Mayan calendar is August 11. However, the start of the death hoax could not happen until he died. So we can assume the start date was June 25, 2009.

The start date of the mayan calendar is Aug. 11. There are 47 days between those two dates. 4+7=11. The start of Murray's preliminary trial was January 4. There are 146 days between Aug. 11 and January 4. 1+4+6=11. His trial
started January 25th which is 21 days later. 21 is 7+7+7 so these dates together look like 11:11:777.

Revelations 11:11 - "After the three and a half days, the breath of life from God entered into them, and they stood on their feet. Great fear fell on those who saw them"

This is referring to the two witnesses.

According to Bible prophecy... we are living in the "end time" of man's rule on earth. In that regard, we are still in "Bible times."

And the purpose of a "watchman" is still the same. A watchman is a guard... a "SENTRY."

"Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the House of Israel: therefore hear the Word at My mouth, and GIVE THEM WARNING FROM ME." (Ezek.3:17)

God states that He shall station watchmen in Jerusalem. Why? For the purpose of comforting His captive Church and Israelite people. How will they be comforted? By the ASSURANCE that our God will come and save us and avenge us of our enemies (Isaiah 62:6-7; 40:1; 35:3-4)! The specific commission and anointing of the two witnesses is clearly recorded in Isaiah 61:1-2.

Uri Geller, who has been experiencing 11:11 for over 15 years, claims that people who witness this phenomenon have a mission to accomplish. There is a message in these time prompts, pre-coded triggers placed in
man's cellular memory that are activated at appropriate times during his life to remind him of the greater reality of which he is a part. 11:11 opens up the channel between man and the frequency of the invisible, an impasse that forces man to question his understanding of who he is and his understanding of the world around him.

Okay this is weird again. This article on TMZ caught my attention because I posted about the 13th sign, Ophiuchus,
in the "Michael Jackson and Religious Symbolism" thread.

by Serenitys_Dream » Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:41 pm

The Zodiac and Michael Jackson

There are actually 13 signs in the zodiac.

The Sphinx was built by Pharaoh Khafre (aka Kafra, Khefren).
Khafre was an Egyptian pharaoh of the Fourth dynasty, who had his
capital at Memphis. Khafre built the second largest pyramid at Giza.
The Egyptian name of the pyramid was Wer(en)-Khafre which means
"Khafre is Great". He is also credited with the building of the
Sphinx.

Michael recreated himself as the statue of Khafre in the HIStory CD
Booklet.

Now if we were to mirror all of this information it says that Michael was creating his story by centering his plan on a circle of dates through history.  Before the coming of the new world order he is going to use dates that end in the multiple of 9 to give us a reflection of what is to happen by showing us what has happened in the past.  Then being a Leo, who is ruled by the sun, and being 37 days long, his movements will be tracked by the dates that end in triplet numbers or the core number. (111 the core number is 1 and 333 the core number is 3 and so on with 7 being the sacred number that lets us know we are on the right track.)  We are also assured that he has someone watching out and we have been given the wake up call before he comes back.

The core number meanings are

1- Unity
2- Division
3- Resurrection or divine completeness
4- Creation
5- God's goodness and grace
6- Man, weakness, sin
7- The sacred number, spiritual completeness
8- new beginnings, Jesus
9- Divine blessings, divine judgment
10- Law
11- Disorder
12- Governmental perfection

37- Word of God
24- Priesthood
17- Victory
40- Trial and testing
144- Spiritual guidance
http://www.seekingtruth.co.uk/bible_numbers.htm

So if we were to first look at the date January 4, 2011  it adds up to 9. The reflection of this date would be January 4, 2010.(1+4+2+0+1+0=8 New Beginnings) which is one year prior to being a 9 date.

That is on January 4, 2010 and this happened:
Conrad Murray went to court for his child support case.
Michael Jackson's doc Conrad Murray evades jail by paying $1,003 in
monthly child support
By Nancy Dillon
DAILY NEWS WEST COAST BUREAU CHIEF
Monday, January 4th 2010, 8:18 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/ ... urray.html

Michael's memorial was on 7-7-2009. (7+7+2+0+0+9=25 and 2+5=7 Spiritual Completeness) (at the Staples Center address 1111 S. Figueroa) That is 2 years away from being a 9 date. If we look at what date mirrors that date 2 years prior from being a 9 date it is 7-7-07 (7+7++2+0+0+7=23 and 2+3=5 God's goodness and grace) 23 years prior 6/15/1984= 34 = 7 That is 25 years (2+5) after he was born, 25 years (2+5) before he died and he was 25 years old (2+5).

On Wednesday January 5, 2011 (1+5+2+0+1+1=10 LAW) Alberto Alvarez testified on the date in question of June 25, 2009. (6+2+5+2+0+0+9=6 Man, weakness, sin)  Since neither of these are a date that adds up to a multiple of 9 to reflect what happened or what could have happened we must look at both of these dates. Since the law is first (10) we take away the man and sin (6). 10-5=5. 5 years.  We must look back in history 5 years that have to do with law and man, weakness and sin. With each year, the day always ends up being the next day in the next year so we have to subtract going back. From Wednesday January 11, 2011 minus 5 years it brings us to Saturday January 7, 2006.  On this date a man by the name of Alberto Alvarez shot and killed a police officer named Richard Mays. Alberto Alvarez was sentenced to death by lethal injection on December 22, 2009. (1+2+2+2+2+0+0+9=9 Divine Judgment)

The reflection of this date December 22, 2010 and this happened

Michael Jackson - Murray's Lawyers Win Extra Hearing
22 December 2010 12:16
Lawyers representing MICHAEL JACKSON's doctor CONRAD MURRAY have won an extra court hearing to ask for medical items found in the late star's bedroom to undergo vigorous testing as they battle to clear the physician's name.

Just for reference, this is how it went last time once we got to this point:

2005:

* January 31 – Jury selection begins.
* February 24 – Jurors and alternates seated.
* February 28, March 1 – Opening statements begin.
* March 1 – Prosecution testimony begins.
* May 4 – Prosecution rests.
* May 5 – Defense testimony begins.
* May 25 – Defense rests/prosecution rebuttal begins.
* May 27 – Prosecution rebuttal ends/defense offers no rebuttal.
* June 1 – Jury gets instructions.
* June 2, June 3 – Closing arguments.
* June 13 – Verdict delivered.
1/31/2005---->6/13/2005=133 days [7]

For Murray's trial, jury selection is set to begin March 28th. Just for kicks... 3/28/2005+133 days= August 8th, 2011. Either this trial has to take less time or it doesn't look like he will be seeing us in July... or this is completely irrelevant, lol.

The trial starts March 28, I assume the jury selection will be earlier that that. MJ's trial started February 28, and ended June 13 (15 weeks). March 28 plus 15 weeks gets us to 7/11.

Interesting thing I found, might be nothing, but if you decipher the word L.O.V.E. you get this:

Consonants:

L=3 (12th letter of the alphabet makes 3)
V=4 (22nd letter)

Vowels:

O=6 (15th letter)
E=5

3+4=7
6+5=11

7/11. The complete word makes 9, number of finalization.

**Back to padded cell**

He's doing it all for LOVE!

135 days (1+3+5= 9) after 3/8/2005 = August 11, 2011. The date of the beginning of the Mayan calendar.

1/31/2011 = 9.

9 years prior is 1/31/2002 = 9. The year he supposedly signed his will.

9 years prior is 1/31/1993= 9 The year of first allegations and the exact date of the his half time Super Bowl performance.

9 years prior 1984. 1+3+1+1+9+8+4= 27 2+7= 9.. 27 years later 1/31/11.

1984 is the year of the Victory tour where MJ states he is leaving J5. In his 1988 autobiography "Moonwalk", Michael mentions that the Victory Tour was originally to be called "The Final Curtain" This happened on 7-6-1984 which is an 8. One year prior to a 9 date. The next year it would be 7/7/1985 = 37 = 3+7=10. One year ahead of a nine date taking us back to 7/6/1984

2/7/2010 = 12 =  2+1= 3.. 12 years prior is Januray 25, 1998.

6 years from a 9 date that would make it  2/1/2004 = 9. (The exact date of the half time Super Bowl performance of Janet Jackson)

One year later from 2/7/2010 is 2/6/2011 which is the day of this year's Super Bowl. 2+6+2+0+1+1= 12 = 1+2=3 12 years prior January 25, 1999. 1+2+5+1+9+9+9= 36. (6+3= 9)
36 years prior is Dec. 14, 1963. On this day The Saturday Evening Post published an article that sparked the JFK conspiracy theory with a huge emphasis on BOTH autopsy reports.

1+2+1+4+1+9+6+3=27 = 9.

I could keep going, but I'm going to search for future dates now.

If he had an operation before his death he wouldn't have made the last day of rehearsals in which KO said he was looking forward to next day's "illusion" rehearsals.  I really and truly think that when he fell and broke his nose, he went to have reconstructive surgery and said yes, make it a bit smaller because of his father's ridicule. But the surgeon did a crappy job, enabled him to breathe correctly so he had to have a second surgery done. Cartilage has limited repair capabilities: Because chondrocytes are bound in lacunae, they cannot migrate to damaged areas. Therefore if damaged, it is difficult to heal. Also, because hyaline cartilage does not have a blood supply, the deposition of new matrix is slow.  That would explain the scar tissue around his nose and the fact that the blood circulation was a big risk and I do not think he would take such a big risk knowing that he wasn't going to go on these concerts anyway and everyone was going to believe him dead.
So if he then had another nose surgery it would not be guaranteed that he would be healed by the time the concerts started. So what's the point? Therefore; I do not believe this whatsoever. His nose looked the same 24 hours before he died as it did at his last appearance. The stupid "effiing" media set it out to be that he had so many surgeries to make himself look so many different ways when just one or two surgeries, after settling, can make you look completely different. They are all "effing" idiots and and think they are on to something... when you look at the reality of things they were actually predicting 2 months ahead of what they think the person should do when,  it didn't happen, they had to come up with another lie, but society still believed and ran with it.

Sick. Sadistic, manipulative, money hungry people that need their hair ripped out...Hey, I got a boob job on Tuesday, I got a double EE apparently oh but no by Tuesday a month later I only got a D, but since I wasn't happy with it I got them to take it out to leave me with a C. In the meantime I'm sure while I was wearing different shirts to hide the swelling the media was going crazy on me getting them,  taking them out, surgery scars, boob flops. etc

But come to find out I was only effing pregnant.

Gossip/Celebrity Journalism should NOT be a paid job. It is all based on a speculative opinion and YES people fall for that stuff.  As a writer, it makes me sick.

Michael...

I couldn't even begin to tell you how much you have impacted my life. When my mother was 15 she was pregnant with my sister and I. She jammed out to J5 everyday.  When I was just a year old Billie Jean came out.  My mother sang the song to me, but said my name instead. Mindy Jean. She has told me that for as long as she can remember I have been singing and dancing to your songs.  I do remember coming home everyday after school and watching Moonwalker, wishing I was one of those kids!  We have both had a similar relationship with our fathers so growing up my initials became MJ instead of MC and thus came my name by everyone...MJ.

Thank you for giving me someone to relate to in the darkest and lightest of moments.  When you understand that parents will be parents and forgiving them for what you feel is wrong is a purifying and just closure.

When I was 16 I met a man that did not treat me well.  I got pregnant and one of my most favorite memories is holding my 2 week son while he was crying, then putting on your music and slowly dancing and rocking with my eyes closed to one of your songs. I was holding my baby and feeling him and the music and when I opened my eyes he was asleep.  But the meaning in your song was so powerful, I couldn't let him go. I just sat and stared at how beautiful he was and it gave me confidence that I could be a great mother.

Thank you for your voice and your music and giving me a bond with my child.  He is now 11 and his favorite song is 2000 Watts.

When I was 20 I got pregnant again by this same man that did not treat me well.  For the sake of privacy I will not mention how badly he treated me, but I will say that I ended up in an abortion clinic because I did not want to have another from him.  They took me in and showed me the videos, told me what would happen and when I was sent back to the waiting room but in my head I was ready to go.  I hated this man that much.  I sat and watched as a man rubbed a rosary and  "You Are Not Alone"  came on. I was not even close to religious at the time. BUT I still got a weird feeling.
My son is now 8 years old.

I thank you for being available to me when I thought the best decision for me was actually the worst decision I could have ever made.

This beautiful son of mine was born deaf and autistic. He didn't say mama until he was 9 months old and didn't start talking until he was three. He was very reclusive, but one day I started playing your music. He screamed and jumped around in circles.  He actually heard it. Ever since then I have been educating him on your life, your messages, and your music.  Now, he won't stop talking!  His vocabulary is out of this world.  He has watched your videos and actually learned software to direct his own videos and movies, he has a lot of friends, he is on a basketball team, and he mimics your dance moves and wants to show everyone what he has learned.  I have the most awesome video of him dancing to Thriller! I wish that you could see it one day.  His favorite song, however, is Smooth Criminal.

I thank you for giving inspiration to my son, when at one point I felt I would be helpless and hopeless, and giving him and me motivation to move forward.

In 2001 I ended up leaving this horrible man. I married in 2008.  Exactly 14 months later you "died" and I left him.
Ironically I took him back 7 months later...and he brought me one of your albums.  (I actually just realized JUST NOW that I married 7 years later and after 14 months (7+7) I left him. I've been obsessed with the number 7 since Pudge Rodriguez was with the Rangers in 1992 when I was 11 and that equals 21 which is 7x3 or 7+7+7)

I have never been a religious or spiritual person. To be quite honest whenever I thought of God or Jesus it always gave me a very uneasy feeling so I avoided it. I was curious about this feeling from the 9th grade on so I researched a bunch of religions but none of them made sense so I could never commit.  I just pushed it to the side hoping the feeling would go away.

After your "death" I cried. I cried for two weeks and then I was thinking about what I had seen and started researching. Then I saw that other people had been thinking the same things that I had!  I always looked to this site as a "what's new" and what will confirm my beliefs for almost a year and a half. Mo and Souza are right on target!
I finally decided to register recently to see what everyone was saying, but I was so scared that my beliefs would be criticized as asinine, not knowing if the research I had found over the 18 months would be accepted. But it was. For the most part anyway.  There are so many people in this world that know you, that feel you, that love you, that want to figure out how, when, and why you would do something like this and then figure out where and how you will come back.

The 4 W's and the H.

Your genius is absolutely amazing. I thank you now, the time being, for making the music if played loud in the mornings, motivates me to clean house, to do laundry in the afternoons and gives me good dreams in the evenings.

You have been there for me.  Throughout my entire life. I thank you in 100% L.O.V.E.

Through everything you may have to face: I WILL BE THERE. A SOLDIER IN YOUR ARMY.

You will always be in my heart,
MJ

Its so nice to see young believers! Welcome aboard! I'd love to hear what you think.

[by Serenitys_Dream » Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:41 pm]

MJ says that we only have four years left so we are
assuming he is talking about 12/21/2012, the end of the Mayan calendar
and even says in his lyrics "the planets are linin up so we are
bringing a message".  The start of the Mayan calendar is August 11.
However, the start of the hoax could not happen until he died. So we
can assume the start date was June 25, 2009.  The start date of the
mayan calendar is Aug. 11. There are 47 days between those two dates.
4+7=11. The start of Murray's preliminary trial was January 4.
There are 146 days between Aug. 11 and January 4. 1+4+6=11. His trial
will start January 25th which is 21 days later. 21 is 7x3 so these
dates together look like 11:11:777. 

Revelations 11:11 - "After the three and a half days, the breath of
life from God entered into them, and they stood on their feet. Great
fear fell on those who saw them"

This is referring to the two witnesses.

According to Bible prophecy... we are living
in the "end time" of man's rule on earth. In that regard, we are still
in "Bible times."

And the purpose of a "watchman" is still the same. A watchman is a
guard... a "SENTRY."

"Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the House of Israel:
therefore hear the Word at My mouth, and GIVE THEM WARNING FROM ME."
(Ezek.3:17)

God states that He shall station watchmen in Jerusalem. Why? For the
purpose of comforting His captive Church and Israelite people. How
will they be comforted? By the ASSURANCE that our God will come and
save us and avenge us of our enemies (Isaiah 62:6-7; 40:1; 35:3-4)!
The specific commission and anointing of the two witnesses is clearly
recorded in Isaiah 61:1-2.

Uri Geller, who has been experiencing 11:11 for over 15 years, claims
that people who witness this phenomenon have a mission to accomplish.
There is a message in these time prompts, pre-coded triggers placed in
man's cellular memory that are activated at appropriate times during
his life to remind him of the greater reality of which he is a part.
11:11 opens up the channel between man and the frequency of the
invisible, an impasse that forces man to question his understanding of
who he is and his understanding of the world around him.

Okay this is weird again. This article on TMZ
caught my attention because I posted about the 13th sign, Ophiuchus,
in the "Michael Jackson and Religious Symbolism" thread.

by Serenitys_Dream » Fri Oct 01, 2010 7:41 pm

The Zodiac and Michael Jackson

There are actually 13 signs in the zodiac.

Michael Jackson is actually a Leo.

> 37 days long

The ancient Mayans used Gematrian numbers in their very accurate
timekeeping.  One important number is 37, which produces the triplets
via the common 3, 6, 9 sequence (3 x 37 = 111, 6 x 37 = 222, etc.).
This prehistoric system of numbers included the 360 degree
and harmonics of it. Placing a five pointed
star in the circle divides it into 72 degree portions. Another
such star, inverted, creates the "Gematrian Wheel" of ten segments of
36 degrees each. Theses are the base "Gematrian" numbers of the
ancient system (36, 72, 108, 144, 180, 216, etc.). All the numbers add
to nine or a multiple of nine and are divisible by nine. They all end
in an even number. The starting multiples of nine form a MIRROR
between 45 and 54, like this:  0 9 18 27 36 45 (mirror) 54 63 72 81
90.

The Solstice on December 21, 2012 ~ precisely at 11:11 AM Universal
Time ~ marks the completion of the 5,125 year Great Cycle of the
Ancient Maya Long Count Calendar. Rather than being a linear
end-point, this cycle that is closing is naturally followed by the
start of a new cycle. The mayans went on a 13 baktun cycle that was
separated into different worlds or "ages". At the end of the 13th
baktun the long count presents the date 12/21/2012 which means the
ending of that age and the start of a new world.

Maybe it's not going to be the end of the world, but the beginning of
a new world order.

A solstice is an astronomical event that happens twice each year when
the Sun's apparent position in the sky reaches its northernmost or
southernmost extremes. The name is derived from the Latin sol (sun)
and sistere (to stand still), because at the solstices, the Sun stands
still in declination; that is, the apparent movement of the Sun's path
north or south comes to a stop before reversing direction.

The term solstice can also be used in a broader sense, as the date
(day) when this occurs. The solstices, together with the equinoxes,are
connected with the seasons. In some cultures they are considered
to start or separate the seasons, while in others they fall nearer the
middle. About 3,000 years ago, Britain's earliest humans built
Stonehenge, a collection of huge stone slabs standing upright in a
circle. It was used to track the movement of the Sun. When you stand
within Stonehenge, you can see the sun rise above the stone at summer
solstice. The timber circle was orientated towards the rising sun on
the midwinter solstice, opposing the solar alignments. Thousands of
miles away from Stonehenge in Central America, between about 200 and
900 AD, Mayan Indians built many tall pyramids. The
pyramids were used to keep track of the Earth and the Sun.  The
Babylonians also began predicting events in peoples' lives based on
the movements of the planets. Today we call this astrology. The
Babylonians invented the 12 birth signs that we still use today like
Cancer, Scorpio, and Virgo. Around the same time the Greeks named most
of the stars and constellations like Hercules, Perseus, and Cassiopea.
The Greeks also named the planets after their gods like Mercury,Venus,
Mars, and Jupiter.

A guy named Munck took the 60 original Sarsen Circle stones and
multiplied them by 360 . . . 60 x 360 = 21600 . . . which "happens to
be" the number of arc-minutes on any circumference, according to math
conventions.  And, 21600 also "happens to be" the number of Nautical
Miles on the polar circumference of Earth. Using the most accurate
maps available, Munck looked to see if he could find some meaningful
relationship between the precise location of Stonehenge, on Earth in
terms of latitude and/or longitude, and the number 21600. He noted its
latitude of approximately 51 deg 10 min North. Amazingly, Stonehenge
centers itself precisely AT this latitude : 51 deg 10 min 42.3529
seconds.  He determined that
the prime meridian for this 'geomath matrix' passes
directly through the center of The Great Pyramid at Giza
making it's geographical location the center of the earth.

The Sphinx was built by Pharaoh Khafre (aka Kafra, Khefren).
Khafre was an Egyptian pharaoh of the Fourth dynasty, who had his
capital at Memphis. Khafre built the second largest pyramid at Giza.
The Egyptian name of the pyramid was Wer(en)-Khafre which means
"Khafre is Great". He is also credited with the building of the
Sphinx.

Michael recreated himself as the statue of Khafre in the HIStory CD
Booklet.

Now if we were to mirror all of this information it says that Michael
was creating his story by centering his plan on a circle of dates
through history.  Before the coming of the new world order he is going
to use dates that end in the multiple of 9 to give us a reflection of
what is to happen by showing us what has happened in the past.  Then
being a Leo, who is ruled by the sun, and being 37 days long, his
movements will be tracked by the dates that end in triplet numbers or
the core number. (111 the core number is 1 and 333 the core number is
3 and so on with 7 being the sacred number that lets us know we are on
the right track.)  We are also assured that he has someone watching
out and we have been given the wake up call before he comes back.

The core number meanings are

1- Unity
2- Division
3- Resurrection or divine completeness
4- Creation
5- God's goodness and grace
6- Man, weakness, sin
7- The sacred number, spiritual completeness
8- new beginnings, Jesus
9- Divine blessings, divine judgment
10- Law
11- Disorder
12- Governmental perfection

37- Word of God
24- Priesthood
17- Victory
40- Trial and testing
144- Spiritual guidance
<!-- m -->http://www.seekingtruth.co.uk/bible_numbers.htm<!-- m -->

So if we were to first look at the date January 4, 2011  it adds up to
9. The reflection of this date would be January 4, 2010.(1+4+2+0+1+0=8
New Beginnings) which is one year prior to being a 9 date. That is on
January 4, 2010
Conrad Murray went to court for his child support case.
Michael Jackson's doc Conrad Murray evades jail by paying $1,003 in
monthly child support
> By Nancy Dillon
> DAILY NEWS WEST COAST BUREAU CHIEF
> Monday, January 4th 2010, 8:18 PM
> <!-- m -->http://www.nydailynews.com/gossip/2010/ ... urray.html<!-- m -->

Michael's memorial was on 7-7-2009. (7+7+2+0+0+9=25 and 2+5=7
Spiritual Completeness) (at the Staples Center address 1111 S.
Figueroa) That is 2 years away from being a 9 date. If we look at what
date mirrors that date 2 years prior from being a 9 date it is 7-7-07
(7+7++2+0+0+7=23 and 2+3=5 God's goodness and grace)  so we might be
on the right track.

On Wednesday January 5, 2011 (1+5+2+0+1+1=10 LAW) Alberto Alvarez
testified on the date in question of June 25, 2009. (6+2+5+2+0+0+9=6
Man, weakness, sin)  Since neither of these are a date that adds up to
a multiple of 9 to reflect what happened or what could have happened
we must look at both of these dates. Since the law is first (10) we
take away the man and sin (6). 10-5=5. 5 years.  We must look back in
history 5 years that have to do with law and man, weakness and sin.
With each year, the day always ends up being the next day in the next
year so we have to subtract going back. From Wednesday January 11,
2011 minus 5 years it brings us to Saturday January 7, 2006.  On this
date a man by the name of Alberto Alvarez shot and killed a police
officer named Richard Mays. Alberto Alvarez was sentenced to death by
lethal injection on December 22, 2009. (1+2+2+2+2+0+0+9=9 Divine
Judgment)  The reflection of this date December 22, 2010
Michael Jackson - Murray's Lawyers Win Extra Hearing
22 December 2010 12:16
Lawyers representing MICHAEL JACKSON's doctor CONRAD MURRAY have won
an extra court hearing to ask for medical items found in the late
star's bedroom to undergo vigorous testing as they battle to clear the
physician's name.

This is all I have had time to look up so far, but it's crazy how it might work.

I don't think the Chopras are in on the hoax.  Like other people who knew Michael, they probably just suspect that he is still alive, hence some of the comments they have made in interviews and/or twitter in the last year or so.

I don't know. Every human has a tell-tale instinct including Michael and if they were still talking after knowing each for 25 years he obviously liked them so they must be good people. He could be using them as a catalyst to give out hints through social media networks simply because they would be the least expected to get information from.  If he was to let anyone know I think they would be included.

Thanks for your research, ladymjc.  I agree that Michael is alive, but I am not sure things went down the way you theorized.
Flumazenil usually acts pretty fast- most of the time within 3 minutes:
http://www.drugs.com/pro/flumazenil-injection.html

I think there would have been too many risk factors and the timing could not have gone down to the minute as Michael had planned (and as TS pointed out, both the call at 12:21 and the time of death 2:26 had to be locked in place by people in the "know." )

Also, I just want to point out that propfol is not used as treatment for insomnia as it does not produce REM sleep.  I think the reason Michael chose propofol overdose as cause of death was so people would figure out that it made zero sense for him to ask for propofol or be "addicted" to it (as reported by some), as he would have figured out pretty soon that he did not wake up rested.  Also, it had long term movement coordination side effects.  Would Michael whose dancing was a form of self expression and communication as well as part of his spirituality really risk that for a "sleep agent" that would not let him sleep?  I think this medication was chosen on purpose as just another red flag for people to scratch their heads and go "what?" Only- look how many swallowed it hook, line, and sinker...just because it was "written in a magazine and shown on a tv screen"...- the research is easy enough to come by for anyone as we know.  If you look, you will find.  If you just swallow what you are fed- you will stay blind!

@Michaelsupporter: AMEN! Absolutely!

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That is all very correct. But I want to run one more thing by you and see if it makes sense. You know how they said that MJ had 8 other doctors and 1 other nurse taking care of him as well?  One of them said that MJ had asked her to give him Diprivan, but she said no.  How could he request that of her if she was a nutritionist? Why was he requesting Deprivan?
I personally don't think he was sick. I think they were working for him formulating these medications into the right dosage for this to work.

(GABA[A]) receptors in the central nervous system are thought to be a potential target site of action for general anesthetics. Extensive studies have shown that benzodiazepines (midazolam and lorazepam) and propofol, bind to their allosteric sites at GABA[A]receptors, and potentiate GABA-activated chloride currents . These anesthetics are occasionally co-administered for induction or maintenance of anesthesia, presumably to facilitate a smooth and rapid induction or to reduce adverse effects by a single agent used at high doses. Several clinical studies have reported that midazolam combined with propofol synergistically potentiates their hypnotic effects.

Propofol has a rapid onset within 40 seconds and if it was just injected once he would be awake within 8 minutes. BUT Murray had him hooked to an IV which could have kept him under sedation for much longer which means there would be no reason for the other sedatives. Here is some information on a study someone did on the difference between long term sedation of propofol vs midazolam.  http://www.springerlink.com/content/ajy5xd67d6xlmybb/.

If they had the times pinpointed to the exact moment it needed to happen, then they had to have the exact dosages of each of these medications and knowing their effects on each other, the times of these effects and what each one actually is. The word propofol is used to describe the medicine, but it isn't actual propofol. That was taken off the market, emulsified and relaunched in 1986 under the name Diprivan which is only 1% propofol.  It is also said that Murray had diluted the 25mg of "propofol" with lidocaine and in a study they found that the addition of lidocaine to propofol causes destabilization of the emulsion and reduces anesthetic potency. It is also a lot lower dose than the 50mg he was supposedly giving him previously in the last 6 weeks because he thought Michael was getting addicted.
So if Murray was giving him doses of the benzos from 3am - 7:30am and he still couldn't sleep then he wasn't giving him much at all, just enough to keep it in his system.  Then at 10:40 he started the IV of propofol with lidocaine which would only be .25% propofol. The plasma concentrations of propofol and midazolam required for hypnosis (loss of responses to verbal command) in humans has been reported to be 2-5 mg/ml and 0.6-1 mg/ml.  If they had constructed the timing of the doses and the dose amount perfectly, then by the time MJ drank the midazolam of the usual dose 0.5-0.75mg/kg.1 with onset of action 10-20 minutes, and duration of sedation 20 minutes to 3 hours combined synergistically with the mg dosage of propofol having an onset within 40 seconds then as soon as Murray put in the IV Mike was out!  Which means he would have had to inject himself with the flumazenil first. Flumazenil antagonizes the effects of benzodiazepines on the CNS by competitively inhibiting their action at the benzodiazepine recognition site on the GABA/benzodiazepine receptor complex. BUT does not antagonize the CNS effects of general anesthetics such as Diprivan "propofol". Depending on the dose, there will be partial or complete antagonism of sedation, impaired recall, and psychomotor impairment. The duration of reversal is related to the plasma levels of the benzodiazepine and the dose of flumazenil. Distribution t 1/2, initial: 7-15 min; terminal t 1/2: 41-79 min.

What all of this means basically is during the 4 1/2 hours Murray was administering the very light doses of benzodiazepines (6mg total) they were reaching at almost 100% plasma levels. If they were at 100% by the time that MJ had injected the 2mg of Flumazenil, the reversal for the benzos would be terminal (100%) 1/2 41-79 minutes. If Murray had started the IV drip at 10:40 putting MJ to sleep that means he was going into a deep unconsciousness by 12:21, and the flumazenil would be reversing the effects of the benzos but not the Diprivan.  He would still appear to be in a coma state. But by the time he arrived at the hospital because Murray had diluted the propofol he wouldn't have been as deeply sedated as he would be if it was used as an independent agent.

This is how answering a question can be left open for one's own interpretation.

KING: You were not shocked at his death, Deepak? Do you still think Michael should be alive tonight?

DEEPAK CHOPRA, MICHAEL JACKSON'S LONGTIME FRIEND: No. Michael was a mythical being much of his life.
He was a mythical being. He died a mythical death.

(The definition of mythical is Existing in myth; not real; false or fabricated)

KING: How do you explain the bad publicity he got, which was terrible for a while, Gotham seems to have disappeared.

G. CHOPRA: I think, you know, in death that happens with a lot of people, and there's been this desperate need by some of the very same people who scandalized him to now celebrate him. And it is part of the mythical elevation, but, you know, at the end of the day he was also a guy who was probably somewhere in between that.

KING: Deepak, in your opinion, is this a fitting good-bye?

D. CHOPRA: It's magnificent, fitting, magical, mythical goodbye to a mythical human being....

KING: What do you think, Gotham, he would have thought of this?

G. CHOPRA: I think he would have smiled at a lot of this. I mean we were all at the ceremony just a few weeks after he died at the Staples Center, and that was huge and epic, and thought that couldn't be topped. So this is clearly smaller, but as full of pageantry and, I think a lot of times these ceremonies are for the family.

(The definition of pageantry/pageant is an elaborate representation of scenes from history etc; usually involves a parade with rich costumes. Origin:
1350–1400; ME pagyn, pagaunt, pagand  < AL pāgina  a stage for plays, scene, platform)

D. CHOPRA: You know hardly any head of state would get this in the world.

KING: In your faith, Deepak, where is he now?

D. CHOPRA: Well, he is -- in my faith, his consciousness has survived his death, and that consciousness recycles itself.

( the definition of consciousness is an alert cognitive state in which you are aware of yourself and your situation)

KING: Do you think he might see this now?

D. CHOPRA: No. If he is incubating, he wouldn't. It depends, you know? He's in a sleep state and the basic matrix of thought forms that was Michael Jackson will recycle itself.

(The definition of recycle is to extract and reuse; to recondition and adapt to a new use or function)

KING: So he's not gone gone?

D. CHOPRA: Consciousness is never gone gone. You know?

Deepak, he called you shortly before he died. What did he say?

D. CHOPRA: He said I'm sorry you're not there. This was in my voice mail. I'm sorry you're not there. I have really good news for you. Please call me back. And by the time I called him back, the number had been disconnected

G. CHOPRA: Can I make a prediction?

KING: Yes.

G. CHOPRA: In the 20 years I knew him he was never on time for anything so my money is on this not starting on time.

I agree that Billie Jean is a reference to the world, but mainly the media.  When he says she is a "beauty queen from a movie scene" it could be since the media portrays Hollywood as being all glitz and glamour he was enticed or "seduced"  to make his dreams come true through his career.

"But you came and stood right by me
Just a smell of sweet perfume
This happened much too soon
She called me to her room"

The media "chose him" to be the center all of their focus and at one time everyone in society looked at him and wanted to be him.  His family and friends warned him to be careful because they have a way of making lies seem like the truth.

For awhile he was on their side but they are not his "lover" meaning they did not help produce his career or "his baby". They started reporting on false allegations hurting his career and they knew what they were doing.  It's very sad. It broke his heart too.

"My baby cried
His eyes were like mine"

"You know what you did
She says he is my son
Breaking my heart, babe"

He also refers to Billie Jean in "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'"

"Billie Jean Is Always Talkin'
When Nobody Else Is Talkin'
Tellin' Lies And Rubbin' Shoulders"

It could be very well be that the FBI is involved. They released documents on Dec. 22, 2009 proving his innocence on the child abuse allegations and the fact they knew someone was trying to kill him.

"In response to Freedom of Information Act requests, the Bureau has released its investigative files on the late entertainer Michael Jackson, who died earlier this year.
The records total 333 pages, divided into seven files. They detail the FBI's investigation of a man who threatened to kill Jackson, as well as various forms of assistance to California authorities in two cases involving allegations that Jackson had abused children. It should be emphasized that none of these allegations were ever proven in court."

http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2009/de ... son_122209

Michael says in his song just Martin Luther. So one can believe he was speaking of Martin Luther King Jr. or Martin Luther. So, when one person says

SoldierofLOVE
Perhaps it is my own bias, but I cannot relate well to anyone who says they have a personal relationship with Christ, yet they cannot express basic decency, respect and humanity for "the least of these" or for those who practice a different faith tradition. In my opinion, Martin Luther did not practice LOVE and ultimately his beliefs veer far from the teachings of Jesus or Michael Jackson's and Dr. King's message of faith, hope, charity and justice for all.

And another person believes

But Martin Luther was the beginning of the Protestant church. All of the western world would still be Catholic if not for him. Jesus taught an exclusive belief system, believe in Him or...
MJ here through TS and Dr. King speak ONLY of selfless love for your neighbour regardless of belief.

If people were to get into a discussion on it, like what it has produced here, regardless of how it is interpreted by either parties, the statements from both of you are not a lie.  Therefore it shows us that the words in the original statement were manipulated in a way to leave an open interpretation.  One has the freedom to believe what they want to believe based on their own interpretations.  It also, in a way, forces you to look at how the statement can be seen from both sides.  If Martin Luther taught that the Bible is the only source of divinely revealed knowledge and MLK spread the message of faith and justice for all we can see that the name Martin Luther could have a double meaning.  In the aspect of how it plays into the hoax, since it was Jermaine that announced Michael's death and not a doctor, most in the world interpreted that as being the truth that the Michael Jackson associated with him had died. But since it was not the doctor that announced it and he did not sign the death certificate of the real Michael Jackson, all of us here interpret that as him still being alive. We also have the different names used on the coroner's report and the autopsy report. So when he did announce that Michael Jackson had died, and it was the terminally ill person that had his name changed, he was not lying.  He left it open for everyone's own interpretation. We could do this with everything that has happened because no body knows for sure what exactly happened. When everyone is in court and they are under oath of the bible being asked questions about the real Michael Jackson, they can give their honest answers of what happened prior to his hospital visit. If he indeed made himself sick that day by having Dr. Murray and himself administer the drugs to send him to the hospital that means everything that took place DID happen. Nobody is really lying if their answers are left with an open interpretation. AND since in the court of LAW the bible is used to get those to tell the truth, and the bible is the only source of divinely revealed knowledge and it says the whole LAW can be summed up as love your neighbor as you love thyself, they are not doing anything against the law.  But this is just my interpretation.

I am so glad you pointed this out.  At 1811 hours (which is 1+8+1+1=11 or  / US military 18 hours = 5 hours and 11 minutes. 5:11 = 5+1+1=7) The time of death is figured between 2:11 and 3:11. 2x11 = 222 and 3x11 = 333.  The numerology is amazing, but until I can make it make sense I'll put that out there as a reference to myself and link back to this because I truly think you are on to something with the times here even if we don't know it.

There were 7 doctors and 1 nurse taking care him before his death.

IF the paramedics found him not breathing and without a pulse they can only assume he was dead when they arrived.  

Murray started giving Michael the benzodiazepines lorazepam  and midazolam which are pretty hardcore sedatives, but MJ still couldn't sleep. Michael obviously knew a lot about prescription drugs and with Murray being a doctor he should have know these medicines combined with propofol can cause a state of deep unconsciousness (which is a coma) and make a person stop breathing. But Murray is saying that he thinks Michael injected himself with propofol while he was in the bathroom because when he got back he wasn't breathing. So Murray calls all these people,  he hides the medicine he was giving him in a duffel bag. BUT why would he not hide the drugs that were found in the closet? These included midazolam and flumazenil. Oral midazolam is administered as a pre-anesthetic agent for pediatric patients. The usual dose is 0.5-0.75mg/kg.1 The dose is drawn up from the ampoule and mixed with juice prior to administration due to its bitter taste. The bioavailability of oral midazolam is 15-27%, onset of action 10-20 minutes, and duration of sedation 20 minutes to 3 hours.  http://www.vhpharmsci.com/vhformulary/T ... azolam.htm. Also in the toxicology report it was not mentioned that flumazenil was in his system. Flumazenil is used to counteract the benzodiazepines and literally pushes them out of your system.

A 10cc syringe was found by his bed with the traces of flumazenil. but it was not recorded in his toxicology report.
In this study of the drugs taken by Michael and heat:  Benzodiazepine receptors were solubilized from calf brain cortex by the ionic detergent deoxycholate and by the nonionic detergent Triton X-100. Approximately 90% of the soluble benzodiazepine receptors of both preparations were heat inactivated within 30 min at 55°C.

So if he was in the room at 90 degree temperature, the midazolam would be putting him into a coma state, but the time he reaches the hospital, (within 30 minutes)  the freezing degree temperature that we all know of hospitals and the injection of the flumazenil would be keeping him alive.

What if what really happened was, they started with the benzos in light doses and Murray was the one who was taking on the role of  "killing him". So Murray hooked up the IV of propofol,  Michael drank the midazolam that was in the orange juice bottle by his bed (which would explain the defense saying that MJ drank propofol) to put himself into the deep sleep.  Then MJ knowing the results of what could happen injected himself with the flumazenil to counteract the benzos. (the reason why the defense would say he injected it himself.)  Then Murray had to wait until Michael was in that state of deep consciousness, or the coma in which his family described before having 911 called. This would also explain the children's reaction if Michael didn't want them to know what was going on just yet.  The paramedics arrive right when the effects of the propofol and benzos are taking place and he stops breathing, but by the time he reaches the hospital the flumazenil kicks in and he is "alive" again.

Chalk one up to another person who capitalized on the name of Michael Jackson.  She blogged her experience for free which, those who believe in in that ability, could also experience his presence, but when she realized it was bigger than that she decided to sell it. Very typical.  I hope he gives her bad karma  :lol: .

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