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« on: January 24, 2011, 12:13:59 PM »
And why is this in a hoax video forum?
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« on: January 10, 2011, 04:04:55 PM »
Jason Malachi is not actively singing live on Youtube to make a point in the MJ death hoax. He has litteraly been spamming the boards for years with all kinds of recordings, imitating the sound of MJ. In the beginning he, or someone else with his recordings, even claimed the songs that were put out there were Michaels.
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« on: January 09, 2011, 08:23:04 AM »
Does this video make any sense, like... at all? What is being said, really? It's all about making things mysterious. It doesn't answer anything. It's well made, but it's all form and no content.
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« on: January 06, 2011, 05:21:22 PM »
I agree with you Rob, that is a big danger too. But that was a danger already present before June 25. Perhaps they are relatively safe now, since the money is not in the hands of the people who take care of them, but the estate.
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« on: January 04, 2011, 01:00:18 PM »
In that case you assume that there are many parties involved with big financial stakes in the world, that have played a part in this hoax for perhaps decades. Companies with CEO's that are in it for profit. CEO's that have not been there for that period of time. Companies that played no part in Michaels world for such a long time.
Now... how realistic is that. Honestly.
If Michaels death is a hoax, I don't think it was planned for decades. The only reason I can think of for Michael to leave his children in the hands of others, is to escape a murder. I think it's possible the seeds for a death scenario have been planted in the early 2000's, and ever growing after the trial in 2005. It is clear that ever since the nineties, different parties are out to get Michael.
But in my opinion a secret deal for Neverland would only complicate an already delicate operation.
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« on: January 04, 2011, 12:51:01 PM »
Ok, thnx for your reply!
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« on: January 03, 2011, 01:31:13 PM »
I will take your last words and ask you to apply them to this video. Because that you do not do. You take it at face value, and well documented facts are to be taken with a grain of salt. That's not the way to try and prove a hoax. That is closing your eyes for the truth, when it doesn't fit the theory. Grass is green, a dog says woof. And Michaels financial situation was in a terrible state. Not being open for the truth clouds any investigation into the hoax.
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« on: January 02, 2011, 02:54:58 PM »
No way. There's a difference in what someone is worth in paper, and what someone has on his bank account. Michael was in deep debt and in deep trouble. Those are all facts that are well documented. And I don't believe for one snap of a second that the Neverland deal is part of the hoax. There are hundreds of millions involved and a very, very big company. In such a top secret thing as a death hoax, the more people are involved, the more chance there is it will not work.
Michael has never returned to Neverland since the end of the trial. He didn't go there for 4 years. So why on earth would Neverland play such a big part in a return now?
If Michael is still alive, he faked his death to save himself. That is not a thing you end by making a showy comeback with concerts, performances or a reinstatement of Neverland. That would be so tasteless. If the death hoax is a fact and Michael will come back, it will not be in the form of some kind of show. It's not the return of a King that needs to have his castle ready. It will be the return of someone who had to take extreme measures to save his life and family and is now able to tell his unsettling story.
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« on: January 01, 2011, 04:59:13 AM »
Neverland is ready for the return of Michael? Michael or the estate don't even own Neverland anymore, only a share. How can it be rebuild for Michael this way? Is the owner in on the game? That makes the amount of people 'in' bigger and bigger. Which is a big no no for a hoax of this magnitude. The more people are in the know, the more danger there is for discovery. So what does this tell about this insider? 2008: US pop singer Michael Jackson is no longer the owner of the Neverland ranch in California after the deeds for the property were transferred to the Sycamore Valley Ranch Company, which he has a share in. 50-year-old Jackson has just filed legal papers making the ranch company the new owner. Sycamore Valley Ranch Company is affiliated to Colony Capital, an investment business that had helped bail Jackson out in March when $24.5m (£16m) was owed on Neverland.
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« on: December 30, 2010, 05:42:44 AM »
I've been browsing many messages. And from what I see is that there is a lot of 'general' stuff. Never before seen pictures, that don't have a link to any theory and stuff like that. It's kinda distracting from the goal of this forum I think.
But I'm just here and already having a big mouth :oops:
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« on: December 30, 2010, 05:32:25 AM »
I don't understand what's 'hoax' about any of those pictures. Can someone enlighten me?
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« on: December 30, 2010, 05:29:09 AM »
What does a picture like this mean in the hoax theory? It's just an old pic, right?
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« on: December 30, 2010, 04:46:02 AM »
I said this too in the HMH thread. I don't think you see any new images of MJ in the HMH video. Just think logical: if Michael is in hiding to prevent himself for being killed... why would he take the tremendous risk of filming new footage for a video.
I do think it's possible there are some clues, like "he hides" and the house numer adding up to seven.
But this shadow... doesn't look like Michael at all. You can put old movies and disney into the soup. It doesn't change the fact that the shadow is very different from Michael: the hair is bigger and higher (curly). What you see in the neck is not a pony tail, it looks more like a hoody. And the chin could be of Jay Leno but not Michael. The profile does not match that of Michael at all. Looking at the pictures that are put in the video to prove that, only prove the opposite.
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« on: December 30, 2010, 04:34:36 AM »
I don't think it's impossible that there are clues in HMH. Some, like the house number adding up to 7 is interesting. However, I don't think we see new images of MJ in the video. Because if Michael is in hiding and faked his death to escape a murder, appearing in his own new video would have tremendous risks for him. For example: ![]() I don't think we see Michael in this shot at all. It's put next together on YT in several videos, but if you just look at the two images, the left one does not resemble Michael at all. The person has much bigger and also higher (curly?) hair. And the chin looks more like Jay Leno's than Mike's. And what you see on his back is not a tail I think, it's more like a hoody.
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« on: December 30, 2010, 04:15:46 AM »
Dit is wel een heel lang verhaal, maar het snijdt hout. Dit is ook de reden dat ik op het forum ben aangemeld nu. Ik ben geen directe 'believer' en zeker geen 'knower' zoals het heet. Wel vind ik het interessant om de theoriën te bekijken. En feit is wel dat er vreemde dingen aan de hand zijn rond 25 juni, daarvoor en daarna.
Echter, wat ook in de post wordt aangeduid, is het zo dat er heel veel 'onzin' tussen de argumenten en 'bewijsvoering' zit. De meest simpele feiten worden zo uitgelegd dat het bewijs lijkt. Maar helaas is het maar al te vaak zo dat als je even iets verder kijkt dat bewijs helemaal geen bewijs lijkt te zijn.
De hoeveelheid clues en aanwijzingen die mensen ergens in zien zijn zo enorm, dat als het echt zo mocht zijn dat Michael zijn eigen dood in scene heeft gezet, dit erg moeilijk wordt om aan te tonen. Indien Michaels dood inderdaad een hoax is, ingezet om zijn leven juist te beschermen (de enige legale mogelijkheid in de VS om dit te doen), dan zou hij ook weer op het toneel moeten verschijnen. Gebeurt dat niet, dan is de hoaxtheorie een hoax. En moeten mensen uit gaan kijken dat ze niet, net zoals bij Elvis, tientallen jaren (zeker de komende twintig of zelfs 30 jaar) een geest blijven najagen.
Ik hoop door logisch na te denken sommige aanwijzingen te kunnen benoemen voor wat ze zijn: niet meer dan theoriën.
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