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Other Albums / beLIEve album...?
« on: January 04, 2011, 04:55:28 PM »
I found this album, called "beLIEve" on a Taringa! site (I've tried to find the site again, but unfortunately my browser doesn't keep history), it's interesting because I've heard a couple of the tracks but the rest I've never heard of before...

I just thought it was interesting that someone was passing off an album with that name that seems to be synonymous with hoax theorists.

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Honestly, it's better than "Michael", because its obvious that all the tracks are authentic MJ vocals.

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Michael / Re: Teddy admits Michael's voice had been enhanced on Michae
« on: December 14, 2010, 07:38:14 PM »
Quote from: "nWo"
Again, if he has the RAW vocals why did he posts one of the lowest settings possible? If he wanted to prove his point, then he would have posted the highest quality possible and download links in order to convince people. But sadly to the untrained ear, people will be swayed. There are ways to completely separate vocals from background music. It is very easy to do that but it does take a little more time to remove any background fragments. Since he posted such a wear quality version of what he claims to be RAW vocals, any distortion in the voice and background could be easily blocked out.

Maybe that's the only version that exists? Maybe JM doesn't know anything about audio production and correct formats. Let's not also forget the vocal section from JM's own song in that video after the Breaking News vocals. They're identical. There's no way to deny it.

Those videos you posted still have music on them. I myself am involved in audio production (for music specifically), and there is nothing out there, for any amount of money, that can cleanly separate instruments from vocals. That video of raw Breaking News vocals also had the harmony vocals removed. It is possible to remove certain bass and tremble elements of a track to a degree, but that video has flawless acapella.

What you're arguing is that this person separated the instruments, vocals and background vocals from one track!? Impossible. An mp3 file only has two audio sections; right and left. Combined tracks for stereo. Him cleanly singing "Michael Jackson" alone without the background vocal layering does not exist on its own within an mp3 file! If anything, taking out the backing vocals from the one file would leave you with a very shallow M-k-l J-c-k-n, if that.

Quote from: "nWo"
It isn't a matter of pride, it is a matter of clearing all the bullshit that people post on the internet. Since when did some random Youtube user become a reliable source? The guy got what he wanted, he got a couple thousand views, people probably subscribed to him so now he can finally get 10 more views on his lame Michael Jackson covers that he has on his page.

 :|

It doesn't matter where the evidence comes from. He has a clean audio sample of the vocals, acapella, without backing vocals or a instrumental track (impossible WITHOUT access to the raw files, which can only be accessed by the producers and anyone who worked with audio production on the album itself.) not to mention the vocals to one of Malachi's own songs in that same video.

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Michael / Re: Teddy admits Michael's voice had been enhanced on Michae
« on: December 14, 2010, 07:02:43 PM »
Quote from: "nWo"
Okay so I just listened to this video along with Breaking News and in the video posted, there is clearly a pitch change to make the voice sound altered. It is most noticeable when Michael goes high pitched as it does not sound completely natural for Michael's voice. When you listen to Breaking News, the voice is much more clear and the pitch is higher.

Are you actually serious? The final produced version is the version that's been altered. The vocals that Tony Kurtis posted in that video sound more like Jason Malachi. Obviously Malachi's voice was altered in the final product to sound higher and more authentic. Want further proof? Take any MJ song (pre-Michael) and turn the pitch down. It sounds artificial, like 2000 Watts. But here, the downed pitch sounds more natural to this particular sound-bite. Interesting.

And to even further drive the fact home, in the video he's posted a vocal clip of one of Malachi's songs, I Can Make It, which of course have vocals that are identical to those of Breaking News.

Quote from: "nWo"
Also whats with the lame 16bit audio? What does it have to hide? 16bits will hide just enough of the sound artifacts to give a more genuine sounding sample. This guy also has a page where he sings Michael Jackson songs with very little views. My assumption? He is using this to get views to his channel.

As soon as they give me some 32Bit, 300kbps or FLAC accapella or demos of the songs then this guy's point is moot. Sorry that people have to see this propaganda. It is sickening.

Really? Are you serious? He's Jason Malachi's producer. If you don't think so, how do you think he just happens to have those raw vocals? There's no way to completely separate vocals from music unless you have the two separate audio files.

nWo has denied it and others will too. Why? Because some people just have too much pride to admit they're wrong. Sony probably probably figured that those vocals sounded enough like MJ to pass them off as him, but unfortunately for their greed some of us have highly-tuned ears and can pick up the subtlest differences in someone's voice (it's not even that subtle here at all... in fact it's quite obvious. Some people will buy into anything).

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Michael / Re: Teddy admits Michael's voice had been enhanced on Michae
« on: December 14, 2010, 03:35:19 PM »
Sorry, but it seems like you guys don't know his voice as well as you think you do.

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If you're not convinced by that, you are obviously deaf. The difference in the vibrato is just so obvious. MJ's is natural, and Malachi's is so forced. Just like in the three songs.

You guys are right; Malachi can't replicate the same skill and talent as MJ. Which I why I maintain that Breaking News, Monster and Keep Your Head Up aren't up to par in vocals as the rest of the album.

I listen to Monster and I simply can't imagine those vocals coming out of Michael. I picture Malachi whenever I hear it. But when I listen to Hollywood Tonight or Behind the Mask, it's instantly obvious that it's the real deal and I can easily imagine Michael singing.

Quote from: "mikestanek1"
I think people who listened to all of his 80s and 90s music are a little biased because they want to hear Billie Jean and Beat It, but instead Michael is introducing his new up to date style and I really think people are afraid to admit that his music is changing.[/i]

Sorry, but this doesn't hold up. I listen to everything from the Jackson 5 up to Invincible and even the song he recorded in '03, One More Chance. My opinion remains static. Don't forget, Hold My Hand was recorded in '07 and he sounds just as he should. It's obviously him there.

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Michael / Re: Teddy admits Michael's voice had been enhanced on Michae
« on: December 14, 2010, 11:18:21 AM »
Nope, sorry Teddy.

Three of the tracks on the album are Jason Malachi. The clue is in the vibrato.

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Wow. Listen to that video of Malachi singing, the other one, then listen to Breaking News, Monster and Keep Your Head Up. After that, listen to the rest of the songs on Michael. You will know the difference.

I've said it all along, it's Malachi. You basically can't convince me otherwise. My mind is made up. lol

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Michael Jackson News / Re: NEW LIVE video of JASON MALACHI!!!
« on: December 10, 2010, 09:06:48 PM »
Quote from: "razza1987"
After watching this video and now listening to the new album I am more convinced than ever it is NOT Jason Malachi singing on the new album

Interesting. The video had the opposite effect on me.

Just listen to the way he sings "Nooo....!" and "So you took a chance..." those bits pretty much encompasses all of the vocals heard on Breaking News, Monster and Keep Your Head Up.

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Others / Re: Usher says he's ready to be the new MJ
« on: December 07, 2010, 09:39:06 PM »
No musician that uses auto-tune will ever (and I repeat with double emphasis, NEVER) be a fraction of what Michael is/was.

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I'm no Christian, believe you me, but this is the kind of thing that turns believers off from this type of thing. They think there's a whole elevation of people like Michael to some type of godhood.

Either way, I'm more compelled to believe Michael would come back than Jesus.

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Quote from: "razza1987"
These lines in particular:

"All hell, run tell, the King has risen" or "I can feel it in the air, here the monster come"  ;)

Devil's advocate here, but... all this about "The King has risen" could be in reference to the fact that he's called the King of Pop, but also how the album is like a sort of comeback, despite his "death". But it is indeed difficult to comprehend why something written ages ago would have lyrics such as these.

How likely does it seem that 50 Cent would alter the lyrics after MJ supposedly died? Hmm... it is indeed interesting how more layers keep being added to this puzzle.


But what I don't get is how anyone (aside from a couple of others that seem to agree with me) can possibly think that Monster was sung by him. It's just not. If you really listen to it, and compare it with any other vocals from anything before, it's obviously a different person. That sort of whisper-ish/roughness to the voice in that track is just something that I've never heard him do.

I can understand thinking Keep Your Head Up is him (which it isn't, trust me), because it's more convincing, but Monster just seems so obvious to me.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Michael - Album Leaks!
« on: December 07, 2010, 09:14:20 PM »
Quote from: "TinkerBell_777"
Very good observations and comments, Makazradon. I agree with most of your opinions on the tracks. The combination with Malachi is not random nor accidental, IMO. Michael has surely planned this for a purpose. As you also noticed, the proportion 7-3 is numerologically meaningful also. Moreover, the letters in their names (MJ-JM) are basically the same, excluding only CK from JAckSON and replacing an E with an A. Maybe this is too far-fetched, but the excluded letters create the word ECK, which means " The Life Force, the Holy Spirit, or Audible Life Current which sustains all life.", a concept of Eckankar, the Religion of the Light and Sound of God.


P.S.: Thank you, looking4truth, for posting the bootleg deluxe version ;). I love the 3 bonuses, excellent songs!


LOVE,
Andy

Thanks for the comments, Andy. I too agree with your observations. In fact, just last night, I just noticed what you said about the letters in their names being very similar. I always noticed JM being a reverse of MJ, but last night I was kicking myself for not noticing the further similarities sooner.  :lol: So it's interesting that you mention this in response to my post. :o

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What's implied? That this is a clue that this was recorded recently? The fact that it mentions 2010?

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Michael - Album Leaks!
« on: December 06, 2010, 02:53:20 PM »
I like Hold My Hand all right, but overall it sounds more like the R&B-style of Akon than MJ. It just doesn't really sound like an MJ song (Which makes sense because apparently Akon wrote it).

I like Hollywood Tonight pretty well. The bass and beat-boxing are just awesome. The chorus is kind of repetitive though. Who's that talking in the spoken part? It sounds like Jermaine...

Keep You Head Up doesn't do much for me. It just sounds like a contemporary adult track... not to mention, it's Jason Malachi (it's harder to notice than in Breaking News, but it is Malachi, 100% certainty here).

(I Like) The Way You Love Me is more of the same from the previous track. Which seems to me like a mistake, given their similarity. They could at least space them apart. It's a little better though, it has a decent beat and flute instrumentation, so there's that. But entirely forgettable. :-/

I can't really listen to Monster. It is not Michael Jackson. Period. They even had the audacity to place the yell from Scream at :42 seconds in, which only makes it more obvious that this is just an imposter. A duet of a Michael Jackson impersonator and a talentless rapper. Next track please.

Best Of Joy just sounds like a track that wouldn't make it to the cutting-room floor. It's fairly uninspired and forgettable, but at least this one is Michael.

Of course we've all been debating about Breaking News for months, but my opinion remains unchanged -- this is Jason Malachi. As I've said, listening to one of Malachi's tracks on YouTube ends the debate. It's him. But I will say, I do like this track. That's probably just a testament to MJ's talent, that I can enjoy it despite the fact that he's not singing, but I still listen to it regularly... and I try to pretend its him.

(I Can't Make It) Another Day is yet another excellent rock track. His voice just fits perfectly with heavy guitar riffs. I like Lenny Kravitz's backing vocals as well, and the background instruments are very surreal and transcendent; probably a highlight to this record. And best of all, it's the real thing.

Behind the Mask is really great as well. When the beat at :35 seconds kicked it, it made me smile. I've always loved his signature-sounding, clever unconventional pop beats. The vocals are really good, and I like the electronic aspects of the instruments heard here... it almost reminds me of modern pop, like Lady Gaga or Little Boots. The bass is really funky, too.

Much Too Soon is sad, as it quite clearly intends to be, but it's not something I'll be listening to. Ever since Dangerous, there's always been at least one or two tracks to each record that would best be classified as "filler ballads". "Michael" is no different. However, I won't fault MJ for this, as these tracks are likely a composition of scraped tracks, "posthumously" (notice the quotes) produced demos, or tracks that were intended to be released on an album later.

As far as who sings in each track...
Michael: 7 tracks
Jason: 3 tracks

I was afraid that it would be half MJ half JM, but fortunately he only poisoned three tracks. Hopefully subsequent releases won't feature JM or any other impersonators.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: All I Need (FullSong)
« on: December 01, 2010, 12:04:34 PM »
Sounds like Malachi again... the other ones sound like Michael, but I still swear Breaking News and this sound like Malachi.

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Michael Jackson News / Re: Michael Jackson The PRODUCER On New Album??
« on: November 17, 2010, 12:29:49 AM »
Interesting, there's no mention of the "fact" that he is dead. Anyway. Not on the press releases, descriptions for the song, the album, anything.

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