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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: July 18, 2011, 11:25:40 PM »
FRONT what's your opinion on that TS person?
What do you make of his messages like the one below?

Just curious if... let's say there is a Police Investigation about the activities on this website, what would be your position as an "inisider"?  Thanks for your reply.

 Latest post from TS or TS -FRAUD-COMMENTS:
"instead, tell them (the Jackson family) that you realize what they are up against, and you are willing to do whatever it takes to help them—even at the risk of your own life (but don’t say it unless you really mean it).

oh ..And YES I DOUBT , THEREFORE I AM. But Never doubt YOURSELVES. Follow your instincts.

Quote from: Front
Yes, doubt me.
Doubt me with anger.
Doubt me with passion.
Doubt me with contempt.
Doubt me with love...HEUUU????????
Doubt me with animosity.
Doubt me with understanding.
Doubt me with frustration. 
Doubt me.
Doubt Back.
Doubt Front.
Doubt MJ.
Doubt the trolls.
Doubt the hoax.
Doubt yourselves...NO NEVER???

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: July 10, 2011, 07:50:32 PM »
Not interested in getting in convo in this board, But I'll reply to this
Quote from: "bec"
Ps. TS never mentioning back has no relevance to his legitimacy or not (???) You really don't think TS is legit? Why would you say that confused/

Because of Aberrations like THIS BELOW! Latest post from TS or TS -FRAUD-COMMENTS:

 "instead, tell them that you realize what they are up against, and you are willing to do whatever it takes to help them—even at the risk of your own life (but don’t say it unless you really mean it).

SOUZA WHAT ARE YOU DOING/ALLOWING??? THIS IS DANGEROUS!!!!!

See full post below...
You can also send tweets to the Jacksons, especially La Toya and Jermaine {http://twitter.com/#!/latoyajackson; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login}; they are the ones who are currently the most involved in trying to expose the conspiracy against MJ. But don’t send tweets asking them about the hoax, that will not help; instead, tell them that you realize what they are up against, and you are willing to do whatever it takes to help them—even at the risk of your own life (but don’t say it unless you really mean it). The more that they see this kind of support, the more they will be able to come out publicly with what they know. And this is exactly the kind of support that I have been giving for well over a year now, and also encouraging others to give.

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: July 10, 2011, 07:08:44 PM »
FACTS:
Front = Bad Maths
Front = Bad writing
Front = Can't Log to MJJ
Front = No clear message, or aim, wandering posts with no substance
Front= Claim he is Back, insinuates he is an "Associates"

BACK= Maths ok
BACK=Great writing skills
BACK= Can log to MJJ
BACK= clear, insightful, links to MJ events, similar to MJ song writings
BACK= never claim he is MJ, Although many believe it's very likely MJ

CONCLUSION IMO: Front is NOT Back.
Also one can't possibly be serious about TS being an "Insider" and not a FRAUD whilst he never mentioned or hinted about BACK or FRONT. Similarirly FRONT ought to know about FRAUD, I mean TS yet he never mentioned him???

WHY WOULD A FORUM NEED 2 INSIDERS WHO DON'T EVEN HINT AT EACH OTHER? OR VALIDATE EACH OTHER'S MESSAGE? I guess sociopats don't do Collaboration.

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: July 09, 2011, 06:45:28 PM »
Well, the Front FACT is still that you came here insinuating that you are BACK, eager to clarify with UN-VERIFY-ABLE words but somehow CAN NOT log in to MJJ forum as BACK????? Shamone!

Smart thing would have been to come out as a BACK associate or MJ associate in the first place, not trying to imply it now.

Use far too many empty words and un-structure speech in your posts. AND that sentence has a double negative and therefore makes NO sense! It should be:

 "DO take my words as Truth….for it CANNOT be altered, regardless!..."
OR
 "DO NOT take my words as Truth….for it CAN be altered, regardless!...

you're PHunky though, as in Phony and funky ---> PHunky
KEEP ENTERTAININ' !!!!!

Front homework: Read at least one the 10,000 book of the Never Ending Library.


Quote from: "Front"
As I have stated many times, do not take my words as Truth….for it cannot be altered, regardless! Careful consideration and illuminous observations will lead one to that Truth; gulping down spoon-fed words will not.

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: July 06, 2011, 09:15:55 PM »
JustLucky I *heart* you for writing these. Thank you. 24 lawsuits out of a total of over a thousand lawsuits in his whole career...A Man has given us 45 years of his Life and we want more, where is the LOVE ?

I am happy if he is living hidden somewhere ever after . It will be known by future generations that he indeed lived longer. I will continue to support his work because it is a part of him, and I am sure he will keep pulling tricks on us wherever he is.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on the Bible quotes diarrhea by the so call "insiders" (!!!) ...those who quote it so often and know it from back to back are the ones to be careful about.

"Preach the Gospel always, and if necessary, use words."
 Francis of Assisi
On that note ...



Quote from: "JustDucky"
This post may ruffle some feathers, and I'm sorry about that, but I believe this needs to be said. I mean to provoke thought, not to pass judgment.

There is no way to understand Michael's death, or “death”, without understanding his life. Especially after his acquittal in 2005. If you really dig, you can get a glimpse of what this man, this father of 3 small children, who had just been dragged over the coals, was facing.

His then new attorney, Londell McMillian, issued a statement that MJ would no longer be a victim – they would fight any and all law suits. At that time, immediately after Arviso, 24 suits were lined up. Twenty four.

Michael was fighting to save the valuable assets he had worked so hard for, and in the process discovering many of those he relied on were not worthy of his trust.

There were custody issues with Debbie Rowe.

The Schaffel trial got nasty, with Schaffel hinting to the press about boys, booze and drugs.

There was another accusation of pedophilia. A man undergoing psycho therapy claimed a repressed memory of MJ holding him captive in a limo for 9 days, repeatedly molesting him. This actually made it to court, but the judge had to throw it out when the accuser missed several court dates and failed to return his attorney’s calls. Put yourself in Michael's place – remember how he looked the day he was acquitted, exhausted, so thin, sick at heart. Imagine him facing that again!

This is just a small sample of what Michael was dealing with after the Arviso trial. A very small sample.

I wanted to prove to myself, as much as possible, that back is MJ, so I did parallel timelines for both of them for 2006, 2007 and 2008. I am convinced MJ is back, and back was not preaching the gospel. He was hurting, he was angry, and he was trying to heal. He wanted to be remembered for his charitable works, posting a long list and asking MJJC staff to keep it bumped so the new members would see the truth about Michael. In a rant about Jason, Jordie and Gavin it's clear back/MJ no can no longer maintain his belief in the pure innocence of all children. That, too, was taken from him. This was posted June 25, 2006.... June 25. You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

If you don't think MJ swears, ask LMP or Mac Culkin.

I've read his posts 2005 – 2009 until I almost memorized them (I'm not counting the posthumous posts). That and matching them to news articles about MJ from many sources from around the world legitimized back, and brought home the fact that despite full acquittal Michael had not been vindicated. The press wouldn't allow it and too many leeches were willing to try their luck at suing him – another accusation was always hanging over his head. How long could he go on like that? How could he rebuild his financial empire and protect his kids? How could he focus attention on his true legacy, that of musical genius and philanthropist? How to make people see him as a man, not a caricature, or worse?

Having spent 2 years looking into Michael's business and legal affairs, as well as learning as much as possible about the man, I feel safe in saying this “death” was an act of survival. It was not a stunt, it was not for a message, it was not for the fans. The movie TII was his his gift to his fans. The rest of his life is for his children and himself – finally. He gave us 45 out of 50 years. It's time we let him breathe.

As for Front, I really want him to be back! But I would caution against embracing him wholeheartedly, at least not yet. The internet is full of people using Michael to further their own agenda, and Front's agenda is not entirely clear. I suggest we let him have his say and see what develops. His truth may not be Michael's truth.

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: July 05, 2011, 05:11:46 PM »
I Agree 100 percent  with your post Nyuki.
As suggested before if Front really is Back then he should log on to MJJC.

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: July 04, 2011, 09:44:28 PM »

Front...frontin'
Use far too many words to be back but you're PHunky
Oh we got an assignment to do..BAM!


Quote from: "Front"
We recently celebrated/mourned (depending on POV) a different kind of "Independence Day" anniversary on Jun 25 of this year…a different kind of "freedom". But on this Independence Day, I would like to wish everybody a very safe & happy Fourth of July.



BAM!
save some fireworks…we're gonna need 'em in the future.  rr/  :D


1 Corinthians 3:9-15 <----Some possible elements to consider….. What do these verses mean to you? How do they relate to the hoax? How does (did?) Michael apply this scripture in his life? At what point(s) in his life was this most prevalently illustrated through his accomplishments and foresights to erect current HIStory for a future foundation of HIS  "Independence Day"?

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Well turns out it was just a PR stunt...she has been doing the duet with Mike (Live) at other venues.
She looked and sound GREATLY PERFECT though...

Quote from: "thevoice"
De Nada. Hopefully I'll be there and record ALL!
can't WAIT...

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: July 03, 2011, 09:59:34 AM »
Oh Shamone Front! you gonna have to up-brain yourself a bit or I'll really start to believe that you are Back for Dummies.

Mike  WROTE see you in July 2011, we are in July 2011 WE KNOW smthg's gotta give whether you give us "clues" or not. We Know...

Your quote Revelation 21:4
Put in context means: GOD will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away. It is GOD who will achieve that..whether you believe in him or not that's the sense of that writing. ..unless you wanted us to notice that 2+1+4 = surprise ...7

Mike clarified that he did NOT pretend to be God or Jesus but Jesus-like. Also I believe he was not a Jehovah's Witness at the "end", possibly studied Muslim scriptures.. so your un-focus  Bible quoting is a little...boring

Unless you really are a  smarty and you actually wanted to point us to the next Scriptures 21:5 which says  : " Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true." to indicate that indeed you are trustworthy...well I just did that for ya..

I hope you are not that TS person again..so annoying and got so busted...

 moonwalk_/


Quote from: "Front"
The "pie" (or Pi---whichever way you choose to slice it!) is coming along just fine. Are you ready for the "7-day feast"?

Revelation 21:4
"”
……….the NEW has already began.

Romans 14:13
"Let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or OBSTACLE in the way of a BROTHER or SISTER."

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: June 30, 2011, 06:17:04 PM »
Hi Just,
Gotcha,
yep am familiar with the dummies books series..that's why I asked and now understand your position.

I thought it would make sense if someone is posting cryptic messages to somehow ensure the discussion is heading a certain way with another..identity/help/poster

Yes dyslectic sometimes am  geek/
Peace in Love
xx
Quote from: "JustDucky"
@thevoice --

When I said Front sounds like “back for dummies” I was referring to that series of books, are you familiar with it? Books on technical things “dumbed down” for the average reader.

At first I thought the fact that Front is more direct than back meant he was a fraud, albeit a clever one who's done his research. Then it occurred to me that if  (IF)  back wanted to post somewhere he'd first go where people believe MJ is alive, and are familiar w/ back's posts. Then, knowing that at the time of those posts no one knew wth he was saying, he just might “dumb it down”, simplify, be more direct. If he really wants to be understood, there's no point in being so cryptic no one gets it.

I'm still on the fence about Front. Luckily for us, he's pretty much doomed himself to a short existence if nothing happens by mid-August. I can wait.

As for why I'm here now, it's because another member on this thread is a friend and told me to check out Front's posts. She can ID herself if she wants to, I don't mind.

Are you saying something w/ JustLucky, or do you have dyslexic fingers ;)

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: June 30, 2011, 02:40:25 PM »
Quand le sage désigne la lune, l'idiot regarde le doigt.
interesting that a seemignly knowledgeagle poster on back appears alongside front just in time to throw
interesting numbers around, to thicken the cloud?...but clarify some points and also point to some truths.


JustLucky can I ask as an avid back reader how come you never joined this discussion before?
JusLucky in your previous post on numbers you seem to  conclude that front is back for dummies (therfore can't be back), but then you compare the SUN from back/front perspective...are you still having doubts?

I am just curious
xxxxxx


Quote from: "JustDucky"
All the “is he or isn't he” inspired me to do a quick comparison of the 2 “sun” posts – text only. All the numbers have turned my brain to mush. If anyone wants to add to this please feel free.

Beginning w/ Front:

The sun will rise again, bigger and brighter, emblazoned in gold…like a beacon whose physical existence was provisionally "extinguished"…but never forgotten. Those "flames" are the heart of the passionate inferno of resurgence that awaits. Some things are not meant to be ascertained but to be envisaged through delicate whispers. Just as the Earth is sure to rotate on its axis, the resurrection of a true King will indeed proclaim Hi(s)Story…and the truth shall be heard in ALL corners of the Earth. Momentarily, the world will quake, for there will be a cosmic shift in "dogma". Time is of the essence, but patience is a viture in [r]evolutionary milestones. Until then, from beyond the gates of that KINGdom----> whispers shall be heard…………….

Now back:

"tHE SUN RISES amidst the clouds, breaking the thickest of the wild blue yonder's momentary scab. It's a brighter day once the scab fickles and dissapates to matter. As the earth continues its' axis rotation, day to night, night to day, the human beings of said planet witness the continuance of the trance we call time. Time is of the essence, so they say. Time is the checkmate of life. Forever spinning in this globe-cast of many different elements, there comes a tIME when time itself takes a backseat to the mOMENT. We, as intelligent beings, decipher and choose when to allow the moment to suspend time. As with the Killuminatti, iN tHEORY, 72 hours previous the logic of a mOment etched within a 7 day theory, is possible, but only tIme will tell.Some things aren't meant for easy translation. But over tIme, it's possible to clearly see the light, if the mOMENT warrants. As the world turns and the clocks spin infinitely, tick tock tick tock, kEEP track of time and please kEEP WATCHIN'..............


Front – “the sun” can be a brighter day, but seems to me to mean  MJ himself. MJ was “provisionally “extinguished” “ on 6-25-09. If we thought otherwise, we wouldn't be here. He will never be forgotten.

I think there are people here whose 1st language is not English, so resurgence is 1) a rising again into life, activity, or prominence  or 2) a continuing after interruption; a renewal. So it seems MJ will be back, or is waiting for something to happen before he can come back.

“resurrection of a true King will indeed proclaim Hi(s)Story” indicates a return will confirm MJs innocence and the guilt of Sneddon, Chandler etc. as MJ sang about on the HIStory album. Maybe that's too simple....

“Some things are not meant to be ascertained” ( learned with certainty or assurance) Faith, we gotta have faith.

“envisaged through delicate whispers” beLIEvers aren't exactly delicate, but there are professionals in fields of medicine and law enforcement who think MJ is alive based on fact. For obvious reasons, they are “delicate” about to whom they whisper.

I think the rest basically says the “shift in “dogma” is the general public finally seeing beyond the talent and the headlines, seeing MJ as a human being. A compassionate, generous, innocent human being. If this “truth shall be heard in ALL corners of the Earth” and  “the  world will quake”, it seems something dramatic and inarguable will happen. Of course, MJ returning from the dead would accomplish that, but I'm of the opinion MJ did this for survival. If he's to return, something significant has been accomplished.

 If “time is of the essence” and “patience is a virtue” someone is hustling to accomplish something, and we just have to wait. I'm not going to speculate on what that could be, but the names Jordan and Gavin come to mind. back's tHeOrY or Vision invited Jordan to come forward via Tom Messereau. Gavin may be a lost cause.

From back's tHeOrY:
But I'm of the vision that this stain too shall be removed in due course. In fact, I have intuition that the subject of the first narrative has already, years ago, righted that wrong behind the scenes. For that individual or even those of his acquaintance, who are ambivalent about the “open” approach & legalities, these initials (T-M) are your "key". Trust ME!

back:
Since everyone here has probably analyzed this for themselves, I'll be brief.
back has devised a way to stage his death, inspired by Tupac's Seven Day Theory and what some believe happened. That could include witness protection or not, depending on what you think was happening in MJs life at the time.

Time and timing are crucial to what is happening or going to happen.

“As with the Killuminatti, iN tHEORY, 72 hours previous the logic of a mOment etched within a 7 day theory, is possible, but only tIme will tell.” This always give me the vague feeling it identifies something that distinguishes back's theory from Tupac's....only time will tell if it works? Reading Front's sun post as a sequel to this one, is it possible that whatever that crucial difference is worked, or is about to?

I guess we can only Keep Watchin, but it would be nice to know just what we are supposed to watch. I've been trying to watch everything and it's exhausting!

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: June 29, 2011, 07:16:47 PM »

"When I light a Candle at Night I tell the darkness I beg to differ"


Many posts from back then are clear as Holy water to us now because time has tested and confirmed the "word" - possibly prophecies and /or carefully executed plan.

What I Know: those who read it at the time didn't necessarily get it, but the aim (I think) was not for a quick understanding at that moment

Someone who posted back then over 2,000 posts doesn't just vanished...inevitably he will come back and likely walking through the Front door and who will even recognise him?

Front's posts will be justified in due time.

SIMMERING is a food preparation technique in which foods are cooked in hot liquids kept at or just below the boiling point of water[1] (which is 100°C or 212°F at average sea level air pressure), but higher than poaching temperature. To keep a pot simmering, one brings it to a boil and then reduces the heat to a point where the formation of steam bubbles has all but ceased, typically a water temperature of about 94°C (200°F).

Source Wikipedia - sorry no proper dictionary at hand...


Quote from: "Front"
:D

 rr/

Au contraire, my friend…..

Quote
tuck them away in a dark, safe place in the BACK of your memory banks. Jun 11 2011 post + 60 days (+1 day of Simmering), resurrect them----> to the FRONT.
(Re: Aug 10 2011 (+1 day of Simmering)----> Aug 11, 777th day from Lights Out)

1 day of Simmering has been---and will continue to be---mentioned, regardless of HOW YOU INGEST IT. You got your eggs…flour…cream…custard…you got the Back of the pie crust…you got the Front of the whipped cream…the pie won't cook until all the ingredients are combined. Examine EACH and ALL ingredients carefully, for they all adhere to the same force  :arrow: fully cooked to perfection, the "chef"  8-) and his "guests" shall delight in reaping what has been sowed.

My purpose & intention is not to serve the "pie" on a silver platter, but rather to offer the constituents for the "recipe".

Keep Watchin' as all the ingredients slowly come together in that mixing bowl…………

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: June 28, 2011, 10:49:55 PM »
nothing much, just babbling...literally.
In awe though, completlely xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

to Front:
Bolstering his next movE ..or moviE  moonwalk_/


Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "thevoice"
THIS is IT for me. Indeniable proof that A King has risen and HE will be Back.
What are you talking about?

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Hi,
for info


Janet UK fan club advertised her arrival in London 28 June 1.29 pm Eurostar train, encourage fans to show up You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

Fans gathered, even press Photographer/Paps  but she didn't turn up. But her dancers and make[-up artist did.
Possible  change of plans or she just Moonwalk her way incognito hiding in plain sight... moonwalk_/

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: June 28, 2011, 07:55:18 PM »
THIS is IT for me. Indeniable proof that A King has risen and HE will be Back. IN fact is Back and Front, Mysteriously around 777 numbers. I am in awe.I applaud back and keep watching the FRONT row.

I do not fear for who had received a direct breath of G*d to inspire shall not and will not be remove by the will of mere mortals  moonwalk_/  moonwalk_/  moonwalk_/

LISTENING TO MONSTER & dancing ecstatically "
*
Catch me in a bad mood, flippin’ you’ll take a whippin’
animal, hannibal, cannibal addition
tears appear, yeah, blurring your vision
fear in the air, screaming, your blood drippin’
shiver a second, now, now, now, now what is it
funeral’s, cemetaries, don’t worry it’s time to visit
broke bones, tombstones, how do you think I’m kidding
its home, sweet home, the land of the forbidden
all hell, run tell, the King has risen
2010 Thriller, there’s nothing iller, it’s killer

there vision, the missin’ the pack, this is that,
this the bomb, ring the alarm
MJ number 1, it’s goes on and on
its goes on and on
we get to crippin’, its running in the early morn’
keep on dreaming there’s nowhere to run
you can drive but you done
I can feel it in the air, here the monster come.




Quote from: "Front"
8-)

 suspicious//

 :twisted:

Aug 24 + 1 day of Simmering----> Aug 25

Do NOT forget the 1 day of Simmering, for it is a consequential and VITAL ingredient of the recipe---Past, Present & Future! Look for it............

And rest assured, my friends, they did NOT and WILL not break  him, for he is..........

in a kiNgdom far Away
but perhaps cLoser than yoU thinK
Bolstering his next movE
checkmAtE----> is on the BRink


"with all that I've been through, I'm still around" --- Long live The King

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