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[Names revealed while in disguise]

A caress like a whisper
Sustained on a gentle breeze
He says "Listen closely, please"
While the storm continues to rage in the night
Crashing fiercely against this plight
The sun will rise, revealing a new dawn
That light we've yearned for, for so long
Rays of truth shall cast out the lies
Names revealed while in disguise
He says "Look closer, you have seen me of late"
Oh, what magic illusions can create!

Those last 3 verses make me think of "PABLO" !
OK! I've said IT!  :affraid:
Please don't shoot me!!   

OMG  That was my first thought, Pablo.  I  really believe maybe not all but  most of those videos are Michael.  I just keep studying them and am wowed

YEP YEP YEP...I'M WITH YOU GUYS.
Pearl Jr has also been talking about PPPYT or Pablo.  :penguin:

[but I am saying that there is a deadline beyond which his BAM will not be extended.]

As we know TS did say that there is a deadline beyond which the BAM won't be extended.....

Last but not least: I will say for certain that MJ will BAM before the end of 2012!!!  Previously, I have given probabilities, possibilities, hints, and clues of a BAM from MJ.  However, this is the very first time that I have given a BAM timing with certainty—not that I am giving an exact day or even year (could be this year or next), but I am saying that there is a deadline beyond which his BAM will not be extended.  I say this with so much certainty that if MJ does not BAM by January 1, 2013: then you may know that TS is a fake informer!

I am thinking that the redirect on 12/27/12 about all those tweets regarding the Dr M appeal brief deadline and extended/extensions, extended time, extra dose of time etc etc  was TS trying to tell us that there really had been an extension of the deadline of the BAM before it happened.........kind of trying to give us a heads up in a subtle way?

Am I making sense? maybe I am just being delusional or have my head buried in the sand and can't face reality  :icon_lol:

IDK....will be in watching and waiting mode...those tweets and the timing indicated still have me curious.

I just finished catching up on this thread & I agree Adi.  ;D

Sim & MJonmind GREAT POSTS & MONTAGES. TS spoke in detail about the PTB/NWO/ILLUMINATI.

:th_bravo:

Hang in there gag...let's see what the delay is all about.    :bearhug:

[Could it ^^ be related to this??]

4:49 PM - 1 Jan 13 ·

complications

Could it ^^ be related to this?? ----> https://twitter.com/MMcParland
:animal0017: :suspect:

Yep; I'd say so...esp after TS' redirect. 15 days plus the mail gap right?

[SUN]

I'm with Jono. I also went back and read all the underlined portions. :)

But Sim...I did notice two things about the article you posted concerning Michael McParland:
SUN & Inner Temple. Hmmmm. I don't know why it says Inner Temple on that article.  :confused:
But we've had discussions about the the Jewish Temple with TS posting in Michael's Army of Love.   :suspect:

[like going through a dark tunnel for a little bit]

TS/Front's track record is very strong to excellent, which gives me strong confidence. But that we are not understanding the way he means is a very strong possibility.  Though he likes to trick us in his words, doesn't mean he is an out and out fake or liar. Just because MJ pranked people he knew sometimes, didn't mean he was generally a liar or hurter of people.  TS/Front said not to go just by their words but by the evidence we have accumulated over all this time.  Our faith in TS/Front/Back/Michael is resting on a strong foundation of the proofs laid down by our forum in great detail on accessible threads, 3 1/2 years of our intensive labor. Do we discount this as nothing?  Now we have some few steps requiring some trust in him, or like going through a dark tunnel for a little bit.  But that light will be coming soon.  Can we be strong for him?  TS has put so much time and effort in all his investments here on this forum. What are we afraid of?  Looking like fools (too late for that)? Being left high and dry (too late for that)?  We (at least the ones who have been here all this time since the beginning) have really gone too far to go back, and most of us would not just abandon this journey. I know I won't, as long as Souza keeps this forum going. There is a core group that is going to be faithful no matter what.   If we truly love Michael, where else is there to go--another forum? Hardly.  TS will come through as he said, but we must allow for that trickery of meaning behind his words, or reading between the words/lines.  If we believe MJ truly hoaxed his death, we know he's been operating by stealth and incognito for many years, so why would this be any different.  He's doing it for LOVE, he doing it for the fans, and he's doing it for the planet.  History will be affected--this is no small potatoes.  What stuff are we made of?  When the going gets tough, the tough get going. And all that talk.  Love you guys, and I want to bolster your faith. I truly believe we are on the right track here on this forum, with TS and Front.  Let's cheer him (them) on, and support him!  We have no idea how ridiculously blessed we really are here!  MJ here! Simply magical!!  (MJonline) :icon_e_wink:
:Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile

Thanks MJonMind.  Great Pep talk.  I'm here for as long as it takes.  No quitting for me.   I think you're right.  This isn't only for us.  It's for the whole world. No small potatoes like you say.  That's why I joined the army of love, to help heal the world.  So, we can't quit until it's done.

Same here, I agree with you guys. One thing that I am wondering since I am not a native english speaker is the real meaning when he says: "if Michael doesn't BAM by Jan 1st" I think this means that if Michael is to BAM will ONLY be on Jan 1st, 2013, or am I wrong? or in this case the word BY means that is a deadline and won't BAM beyond that date?
Please I need help in this guys!!
BTW TS explained that BAM means a PHYSICAL---> MICHAEL IN THE FLESH <--- COMEBACK.

I think he means if Michael doesn't BAM before Jan. 1st than it's going to be on Jan. 1st but no later than that.

Great Pep talk and I agree with you guys
Although with the latest redirect it looks like there may be a delay up to January 5th...
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23520.msg434050.html#msg434050
:)

[past or present?]

TS still leaves it open to possibility of him posting before Bam,

After I give my replies, others may continue to investigate on this thread as long as they wish; but I probably will not be posting here much if at all after that, at least not before BAM.

So CM legal rumblings.  :icon_bounce: If MJ doesn't Bam on deadline, this may be his excuse--delayed appeal.

Michael McParland
@MMcParland
Barrister, California Attorney and Legal commentator for #skynews and others.
London, England

So I guess we're supposed to keep track of happenings with him?

why did conrad murray not file the appeal brief by 21/12, there has to be a reason right? or does this redirect involve any hoaxy calculations?

Cm did not file the brief by 21, so a period of 15 days is given... 21/12/2012+15 days = 5th of January, 2013 ...bam date?

:omg: I don't think I can handle another delay...  :over-react-smiley:
So...Is there any OTHER significance to the January 5th date that anyone knows of?...past or present?  :icon_bounce:

WOW...wow...wow Sim; thanks for all the information! good job!  :th_bravo:

:bearhug:

[this makes me think of the redirect a couple days back of the 7 BAM Michael and Bahrain.]

fall my apologies if this doesn't come out right I'm using my phone.
I agree the whole visa thing stinks, I don't think the awards are going to be beans from Florida I think we are only made to believe that when actually it's going to be somewhere else and that's why there's a visa problem..
this makes me think of the redirect a couple days back of the 7 BAM Michael and Bahrain.

WoW! Trinity girl you might be SOOO right!! OMG!  :icon_eek:

whatever happened to that Michael shaped theme park he was supposed to open with the prince?

Oh you mean the Michael shaped island? it was some contest for fans on a site... to come up with ideas for a Dubai island...and some came up with Michael shaped islands [see the montages below].

About that THEME PARK  project with the prince.... I don't remember when and on what site I found these... But that's all I've got on it....

This BAHRAIN-lead has been repeated over and over through out this hoax...there's gotta be more to it...

Michael shaped islands

ok... I can't get the 7 Bam Michael & Bahain redirect out of my head along with Fronts drawing of the clock pointing to 12:21  :icon_albino:
Then there's with the whole cheesy visa thing having to do with the WMA slotted for the 22nd...   :WTF:
Also we have the 21 vs 22 date debate & screen shot of the 911 call times...  :animal0017:

SO;
What if there's a redirect TONIGHT @ 12:21? (close to midnight... :icon_razz:)
Wouldn't that make it actually 12:21 on the 22nd?
or am I just  :icon_geek: and grasping at straws?

Guess we'll know tonight... We'll see if there's a redirect and what it's about.
:bearhug:

[this makes me think of the redirect a couple days back of the 7 BAM Michael and Bahrain.]

fall my apologies if this doesn't come out right I'm using my phone.
I agree the whole visa thing stinks, I don't think the awards are going to be beans from Florida I think we are only made to believe that when actually it's going to be somewhere else and that's why there's a visa problem..
this makes me think of the redirect a couple days back of the 7 BAM Michael and Bahrain.

WoW! Trinity girl you might be SOOO right!! OMG!  :icon_eek:

whatever happened to that Michael shaped theme park he was supposed to open with the prince?

[Thriller4ever]

@Thriller4ever & @Andrea: great points~ And I would also add to that list: among the photos showed by the WMA official site, there is also a photo of Stevie Wonder  :icon_albino: - another hoax accomplice, present almost in every key hoax moments! And Also BEYONCE !! We know she LOVES Michael and they are good friends!

And I don't know for you guys , but I am still tormented by this ^^ CLOSE UP screenshot of Michael on the WMA 2012 site!!
Besides the fact that he doesn't look like he should have if that pic was indeed from the WMA 1996, there is also his V-neckline shirt and his chest! that remind me of Front's photo!! What if that was the purpose why Front posted this photo for us back then? to make us think about it when we see this WMA 2012 pic??  :affraid: And also look at his body position: we can see him completely from the FRONT !!  :icon_e_wink: I have this hunch...this photo is a "necessary early (recent)" photo!!  :icon_e_biggrin:

ALSo @MjonMind's comparison is very PERTINENT!

@Sim, I agree these pics of MJ don't seem like from the same event. Here they are right together.
His face looks a similar age (but could be current who knows), but his hair is swept back, his shirt less tucked in, his shirt deeper cut and more open in the v-neck, his undershirt has longer sleeves, and no belt. Also he is standing before his entrance into the earth, not having stepped up one step; and in the video he is in complete shadow until he has walked well forward.

I really think we shouldn't dismiss all these things! - http://www.worldmusicawards.com/

fall my apologies if this doesn't come out right I'm using my phone.
I agree the whole visa thing stinks, I don't think the awards are going to be beans from Florida I think we are only made to believe that when actually it's going to be somewhere else and that's why there's a visa problem..
this makes me think of the redirect a couple days back of the 7 BAM Michael and Bahrain.

[RESURRECTION]

I take this redirect to mean TS is validating Front, and oh my goodness how stunned I was to see that handwriting.

It's not so much about validation. Front has been validated long enough so far.

It's about the word RESURRECTION!
We need to connect the dots we've received today about RESURRECTION from 4 different official sources:

1. Paris - tweeter
2. MJ Official Facebook page
3. TIAI redirect December 20th
4. The official WMA 2012 site

see links in the quote below

Besides Paris tweeting lyrics from a song on the album "Alive & Kicking" ! The name of the band is NAZARETH! Ring a bell anyone?? JESUS of Nazareth! ---> Resurrection ---> see Resurrection pose from MJ official page! ---> see Resurrection word written by Front in the TIAI December 20 thread

How can HE be any clearer than that!??
---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,5167.15575.html

Oh Sim I'm so pissed off right now I could just scream!
I finally spent all day yesterday catching up and weeding out 88 emails because I haven't been on the computer for over a week. Today was my day to catch up on reading the forum and post, but my husband decided to change computers and hasn't switched any of my files, Notes emails or anything over to the other computer so I'm stuck having to do all this on my smart ass phone s damn impossible!! The screen keeps moving and changing format it won't let me correct words!  :Pulling_hair: :computer-losy-smiley:

Jesus of Nazareth is on of my all time FAVORITE movies!  :) Love Hurts...good song! LOL  I remember the days my Mother kept stealing my Hair of The Dog album. Hahahahaha!

I too am visual...thanks for the pics Front! :bearhug:

 :elvis-1405: :th_bravo: :multiplespotting:  PARTY TIME.

[LATOYA & FBI]

LATOYA & FBI   :icon_e_wink: 

POST BY TS ----> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,21319.msg375503.html#msg375503

In this post, I'm going to be giving further evidence about one of the reasons why MJ did not go to the hospital (risk of being murdered). 
[. . . . ]
The question here is whether MJ has been facing a real murder danger (at any time, not just 6-25-09), and therefore was his artwork was designed to portray this real danger through entertainment?  Or was the danger just an artistic creation, designed merely for the sake of entertainment?  Once we understand the "how's" of the hoax, the answer to this question should be very clear.  However, even before completing 7b, I want to show many reasons why this danger is very real; then the rest of 7b should be relatively easy to understand.

First and foremost are MJ's beliefs about the Bible, the NWO, and the end of the world.
[. . . .]
For those who have been following the tweets from Paris, you know that she has tweeted several things about "secret societies", the Illuminati, the eye-pyramid (with the Army of Love cutting the strings), the warning about the New World Order, etc.

Are all these things just for art and entertainment, with no real threat?
[ . . . .]

Can anyone read La Toya's book (Starting Over), and come to the conclusion that Jack Gordon was not a real threat in her life—that she fabricated the stories, pictures of bruises, etc, just for entertainment?  And if this was real, and not made up by La Toya, then it should be clear that the threats against MJ were just as real; she talks about the threats against both of them (herself and MJ) in the same context, and sometimes the same people behind the threats.  In fact, it went beyond mere threats; when it came to the molestation charges, it was these same people who "got him [MJ]" (according to Jack Gordon).

"Latoya and Frank Cascio also wrote about 9/11 in their books!!! WHY do they brings this horrible attacks in their books, related to Mj, this is what I don't understand and it really disturbs me" {applehead250609, http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21319.msg374959#msg374959}.

Yes indeed, some people on this forum and elsewhere are having trouble understanding the how's AND THE WHY'S of the hoax, because they are living in a fantasy hoax world: thinking that it's all just fun and games, with multiple ambulances floating around in the sky—while not gripping the reality of the power and the agenda which exists in the underworld, and that they actually did try to take MJ out in the trade towers on 9-11 (but they failed).  How can we be a united Army of Love, to stand up against their corrupt agendas, when so many of the soldiers think that it's "All for E.N.T.E.R.T.A.I.N.M.E.N.T."???

Speaking of entertainment: The Illusionist (which La Toya pleaded with us to watch, and "read between the lines") is a good example of entertainment WHICH PORTRAYS A REAL DANGER!  There was a real enemy, with a real intent to kill the person who "died"; and the plan of the illusionist included not only saving the life of the potential victim, but also exposing the criminal.

Probably everyone knows this by now, but let me remind you anyway: "Michael Jackson's FBI Files Reveal Death Threats" {http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1628762/michael-jacksons-fbi-files-reveal-death-threats.jhtml}.  Surely the FBI did not make this up, just to go along with MJ's artistic creation of some imaginary enemy.  The FBI was also involved with investigating La Toya's situation (Jack Gordon, etc); during level 5, I already quoted important excerpts from her book {http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=19778.0}.
So I think we have every valid reason to believe that the FBI is helping MJ in the death hoax, for more than just movie and entertainment purposes; they are helping to create the illusion, in order to expose the criminal.

"1. He just knew! He was famous and rich from the age of 5! The fortune hunters were always after him. He is intuitive! He is God-gifted. He just knows things!  2. He got hints from Elvis who also faked his death! He knew what happened to Elvis all his life because of his celebrity! and that Elvis had also received death threats!  3. He saw what happened to John Lenon and other celebs [MLK, JFK, Lady Di, etc]! he didn't want to wait for that happening to him too!" {SimPattyK, http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21319.msg370869#msg370869}.

Let me share a little secret, about the bitter opposition that I have received for about two years now.  If I had never done anything but promote the fun and games aspects of the hoax, you can be sure that the whole hoax world would have been raving about TS for these last two years.  The opposition is primarily because I support the serious aspects (Illuminati/NWO, end of the world, etc); humanity generally wants to believe that everything is hunky-dory, and all things will continue fine and dandy.  This is precisely the attitude which was prevalent before the flood, as well as Sodom and Gomorrah—and Jesus warned that this would also be the attitude at the end of the world (see Luke 17:26-30).

Nevertheless, even though I have received great opposition from many: I have never received any opposition from the hoax insiders (family, TMZ, etc); quite the opposite, both the family and TMZ have supported TS/TIAI on several occasions {including the recent Too Short article, http://www.tmz.com/2011/11/22/rapper-too-short-not-dead/; http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=21471.0}.  And this is because I have been giving MJ's real message, including the serious aspects; and I have NEVER said it was only a movie, or only a sting on the fans and media.

I've said the following before, but it is worth repeating.  This is the only hoax forum that I have ever posted on, and it is also the only hoax forum or website that TMZ ever linked to in their blogroll; this blogroll is no longer on their home page, but it is still on their website and still has a link to our forum on it {http://www.tmz.com/blogroll}.  For a long time, many have thought that TMZ was just another unreliable tabloid media source—that they have merely been playing with hoax believers, and don't really have any inside information about the hoax.  Well, TS has always supported TMZ; and recently, La Toya also supported TMZ: "But there's more to the story guys, and Harvey knows that; Harvey Levin knows that (don't you Harvey)." {http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0f7T8h3VTM}.

I could cite many more examples, both from TMZ and the family; however, I have already done that many times in the past, so I only added a couple of newer examples here.  But I will close with the following, which sums it up in short.  The whole world, INCLUDING HOAX BELIEVERS, need to wake up to the reality of the seriousness of the danger—not for the sake of fear and mind-control, as some people have claimed; but rather for the sake of awareness and preparation: forewarned is forearmed!

[back in time mode on]
Don't know if this helps: the leaves in the ambulance photo were shopped in.  We discussed the leaves were pointing to the FBI logo and involvement. If I recall correctly, these leaves showed up on the outside of an ambulance drawer. [ . . .  ]

Regarding the LEAF-pattern that kept showing all through out the hoax,
I made some montages on this thread here: THE CLOTHES "SPEAK" clues TO US
---> READ on PAGE 3 (replies #72, #73 ) and PAGE 4 (replies #77, #78, #89, #91

Police Officer Latoya

They're laughing at her, but the FACT is she really is a Police officer!  :icon_e_wink:
Pay attention to what she says between minutes 04:29 and 04:53 - regarding the investigation on Michael's case! how she says she's working with them (the investigators!). Watch her face/eyes when she says 'I'm in contact with them, I'm working with them..."  :icon_albino:  :icon_e_biggrin:

POST BY TS ---> http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,18964.msg327641.html#msg327641

[...]
We are now at the most important level: who is the focus of The Sting? [....]
Keep in mind the possibility that more than one person or entity is the focus.

Most specifically, though, we need to investigate whether the entire court is in on the hoax, or could the court itself be the focus of the FBI investigation (or part of the investigation). Some have already proposed this possibility, while others have summarily dismissed it.  As always, please do not dismiss any theory until it has been thoroughly debunked.  And whatever theory you personally believe, try to debunk your own theory; many hoax investigators are still not doing this.

In favor of the court sting theory, let me point out a few things.  Some say that the court did the right thing back in the 2005 acquittal, so why would it be investigated?  The reality is that the defense and jury did the right thing, but what about the prosecution?  We already know about Aphrodite's testimony, and Tom Sneddon (TS  :lol: ), etc.

We also know that for years the FBI investigated MJ, and the pedophile claim; but they found nothing against MJ.  Could it be that in the process of this investigation, the FBI found evidence of corruption in the LA prosecution and the MJ trial? Could it be that as a result, the FBI in cooperation with MJ decided to make the LA court system the focus of a sting operation? Please remember that the "top priority" of the FBI is "public corruption" in government agencies; and their investigation specifically includes "verdicts handed down in courts"
{http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/corruption}.

We are also at the point, which I mentioned earlier, of running two different coherent theories in parallel.  And as we try to put all the pieces together—including the research of previous levels, as well as the new information that we will get during the hearings—hopefully one of the two theories will fall into place, and the other one will fall apart.

Although there are endless minor variations within these two main coherent theories, for the purpose of this level we are only examining two basic theories: the court is in on the hoax, or the court is not in on the hoax (other than the defense, and maybe a few other key people).  For the sake of discussion, we can refer to these two theories as "hoax court" and "sting court".

In level one, we found that the ambulance photo was staged in advance.
In level two, we found that at least a few key people in the FBI are helping with the hoax (and cooperating with one or more in the LAFD).
In level three, there are still a few different ideas about who or what (if anything) went in the ambulance on the stretcher to UCLA; most agree however that a corpse was not used.

Even though level three is still unresolved, yet we can and should start investigating level four (The Sting).

[ . . . .]

It has been suggested that this would constitute entrapment; but sting versus entrapment does not depend on using a dummy versus a corpse. It would be possible to use a dummy, and still qualify as entrapment, if the job was done so airtight that nobody could figure it out. On the other hand: it would be possible to use a corpse, and not qualify as entrapment, as long as there are plenty of clues and evidence that MJ is still alive.  If the hoax forums can figure out that MJ is alive, when most of the members are not even professional investigators, then what excuse would the LA prosecution have for not figuring it out?

[ . . . .]

YOUR ROCK SIM!  :bearhug: :th_bravo: I HONESTLY DON'T KNOW HOW YOU HAVE THE TIME TO FIND/REPOST THIS STUFF.   :LolLolLolLol:
THANK GOD I COPIED, PASTED & TOOK NOTES ON A WORD DOC. SO I CAN GO BACK; PROBLEM IS I NEVER HAVE TIME...SO MUCH HAS BEEN COVERED.
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK.

[I just simply can't believe you guys are actually depressed and confused :icon_eek: :suspect: :animal0017: WTF!? :animal0017:]

I just simply can't believe you guys are actually depressed and confused  :icon_eek:  :suspect: :animal0017: WTF!? :animal0017:

I guess I am the only one happy here, as I said in my long reply here to TS posts, to me there are many things that I understand better now, yet there are still some unclear things! mostly due to the FBI involvement and to the fact that as TS himself said it: not even MJ knows everything that happened "that day"!

So what more do you want? It's very clear! We won't have ALL the answers regarding what exactly happened on June 25th!
So what!??
That doesn't change the fact that Michael is alive and he's gonna BAM sooner or later by January 2013!

Come on guys cheer up!!
We've even had Front & TS acknowledging themselves on this same thread!! With TS blatantly telling us that Front = MJ!!
Isn't that reason enough to PARTY!!??  :penguin: :multiplespotting: :beerchug:

you said/wrote it right Sim, there is no reason to be sad, confused or in depression. It is not over yet! we are not in the end of hoax tunnel, some time still lefts..please be patient and we will see the result of Michael`s master plan.

I'M WITH YOU GUYS!  :michael-jackson: :multiplespotting:
IT'S NICE TO KNOW THERE'S VALIDATION FOR THOSE OF US WHO STUCK TO OUR GUNS CONCERNING THE BODY/CORPSE THEORY...  :TongueOutSmiley:
NOT TO MENTION FBI INVOLVEMENT OF A REAL STING GOING DOWN, NOT JUST MICHAEL'S ARTISTIC ONE. :elvis-1405:
THANK YOU SIM FOR KEEPING ME UPDATED ON FB.  :beerchug:

TO TS  :th_bravo: :th_bravo: :th_bravo: THANK YOU. :bowdown:

For all the rest of you guys... :bearhug: :bearhug: :bearhug:
Sorry I haven't been around much in the last year. Most of my energy has been focused in the Michael's Army of Love sub-forum. LIFE just gets in the way of your best laid plans.