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« on: May 01, 2013, 12:10:18 PM »
AEG Lawyer won't stipulate Michael Jackson as being dead. Could the hoax be revealed after this trial? You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: April 29, 2012, 08:08:37 PM »
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The bohemian Grove owl is simular to the pagan god Moloch. Worshiped by Babylonians, ancient Greeks, and by the druids.
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Compare that to the forty foot stone owl.
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"in-toxins , Games of chance (gambling), and STONE IDOLS are handworks of Satan." -Qur'an 5:95
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« on: January 11, 2011, 11:32:31 AM »
The bilderberg are going to make the people of the world who survive populatio redcution slaves.
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« on: December 22, 2010, 02:32:35 PM »
9/11 was an inside job. Planned by the CFR and bilderberg. This was a red flag to cause war. The oil spill in the gulf of mexico was an inside job as well. The stuff used to clean the spill was arsenic, cadmium, mercury, led, and other toxic chemicals. This was to depopulate Louissiana. The bilderberg/CFR want to use New Orleans as a toxic waste dump. They will have people relocate. They will starve people to death and they want to cause a mini ice age.
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« on: December 17, 2010, 04:01:27 PM »
great post! The bilderbuerg are behind the New World Order. The plan to depopulate the world has already began. The toxins are aspertame and flouride. There will also be a genocidal holocaust that will happen. They will create a deadly pandemic through vaccines. PEOPLE OF THE WORLD NEVER GET VACCINATED! They will have military troops come in. People who refuse vaccination will be locked up in concentration camps. This is part of the elite group's agenda. MICHAEL JACKSON WARNED US OF THEM!
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« on: December 16, 2010, 08:04:23 PM »
The bilderburg is one of the santanic secret societies aming to control the world population. They are going to kill 90% of the world population by flouride and aspertame. watch conspiracy theory with jessie ventura: Secret Societies, You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login click the link to watch. Aspertame is deadly It can cause blindness and problems with thinking. They are very evil. There is apertame in baby food products, they want to poison kids. They want to get people chipped. There will be a genocide hollocaust. There is toxic chemicals put in the air. That is arsenic, led, codiminium, and murcury. This is not good. They want to kill people on the blue and red lists. You and I are on one of these three lists. Which are you on? Red List, threat to NWO and will be taken to FEMA camps at 4:00am right after martial law is declared. They will be killed in FEMA camps. Blue List, bit of threat to nwo and will either be taken to FEMA camps to die or put in detention centers to be re-educated and put under mind control. They follow the red list people. Yellow, not threats to nwo. They don't know of nwo and don't want to know about it. They don't care about the nwo. They will be told how to behave and will probally listen to Bilderburg. They will creat deadly vaccines and hoax pandemics. These are the evil plans of the bilderburg group. They have meetings. There are 7 men who control nwo. We have a voice to stop nwo. They don't want us to know that. Oil spill was a red flag like 9/11. These were done to cause war. HAARP is another part of the population reduction plan. BEWARE THE BILDERBURG! It's one the most talked about conspiracies.
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« on: October 25, 2010, 06:26:34 PM »
After 33 years of question and debate over whether Elvis Presley faked his death: we now have the strongest scientific proofs that he really did fake his death—and in fact, he is still alive to this very day!!!!!!!! And this is not based on some lunatic fantasy whims, that Elvis is living on a paradise island; no, this is documented evidence which is so strong, that it’s the basis for a legal case which is already in court. And to top it all off: there’s a good chance that this will all be hitting the news this summer!
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6-1 DNA and Other Scientific Evidence that Elvis Lives!
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Less than a month ago (on May 20, 2010), probate attorney Andrew W. Mayoras published the statements quoted in the next paragraph below, about the DNA evidence {for the full report, click the link above}. For those who are entirely new to all this: Eliza is the lady who discovered DNA evidence that she is the half-sister of Elvis Presley—and to top it all off, the DNA also proves that Elvis is still alive! Elvis lives in hiding, and has been going by the name “Jesse”—named after his twin brother, who was stillborn.
“These [DNA] reports show that Eliza and the person now referred to by many as ‘Jesse’ are half-siblings, and Jesse in turn is biologically related to the known cousins on both sides of the family tree to Elvis Presley. Because Elvis never had any full siblings (other than a twin, Jessie, who was stillborn), no one else could match cousins on both sides but Elvis himself. ... Eliza also sent the results to another independent DNA company to verify the results. The lab owner, Dr. Donald Yates, said publicly that the DNA supported Eliza’s claim and that Jesse had to be Elvis. And yes, he said, this means that Elvis is alive. Here’s a Memphis newspaper article about it {You are not allowed to view links.
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Shirley Mason, a certified graphologist who worked for the Kansas City Bureau of Investigations for many years, analyzed letters from Elvis and from Jesse; her conclusion was that “she would testify in court, under oath, that Elvis ‘has to be ALIVE.’ She felt the handwriting was ‘UNMISTAKABLE’. The attorney general’s office cleared Dr. Hinton of all charges.” {You are not allowed to view links.
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Dr. Hinton, just mentioned above, worked with Jesse for years. He also wrote a book, with the help of Jesse, titled: “The Truth About Elvis Aron Presley In His Own Words” {You are not allowed to view links.
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The above four categories (DNA, photographic, graphologist, and lie detector) are very strong scientific evidence that Jesse is truly Elvis, and therefore he did fake his death. Actually, there is a great deal more evidence than this that Elvis faked his death {You are not allowed to view links.
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However, for the sake of keeping this fairly short, let’s stop here and notice some very clear reasons why Eliza’s story is not some elaborate fabrication.
If this was a big joke: it would be very easy for Graceland to disprove it (provide DNA); but they have not even tried. Also, Eliza did not set out to prove that Elvis is alive; instead, she set out to find her real father—and unexpectedly stumbled across amazing evidence that Vernon Presley was her real father (and therefore that Jesse/Elvis is her half brother). She is not asking for money, she only wants the public to know the truth; if she was trying to get tons of money, then that would probably raise questions about a possible motive for attempting a scam—but she is not.
Another interesting point is that Priscilla Presley knows the truth about Elvis, and did a movie in 1998 about Elvis being alive {You are not allowed to view links.
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6-2 Double-bam: ElvisAndMJ.com
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In Summary:
King of Rock / King of Pop
Graceland / Neverland
Lisa Marie Presley daughter / wife (no doubt MJ learned some hoax tips)
“Death” was claimed drug related, and heart related
“Died” at home
Taken to hospital in ambulance (even though already “dead”)
CPR on the way to hospital
Declared “dead” at hospital
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Investigation into doctor
Different middle name (Aron vs. Aaron / Joe vs. Joseph)
This Is Elvis / This Is It (films about Elvis & MJ, released after the “deaths”)
“Death” dates equals their own concert intro, related to space (see 6-9, below)
Other numerology (see 6-8, below)
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Lisa Marie Presley reported that Michael told her: “I am afraid that I am going to end up like him [Elvis], the way he did.” {You are not allowed to view links.
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Yes, the “deaths” of Elvis and MJ are so similar—that if one faked his death, then so did the other. And now we can be certain that Elvis did fake his death, which means that we can also be certain that MJ faked his death! In fact, in the category of clues: we have far more clues from MJ than from Elvis.
There are a few big differences. One is the open casket for Elvis, versus closed casket for MJ. Everyone said that it did not look like Elvis in the casket (some said it looked like a wax dummy); so MJ learned from that, and had a closed casket. Another difference is that there were few if any clues from Elvis about a return/bam; but many such clues from MJ {You are not allowed to view links.
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Whichever bam comes first (MJ or Elvis): everyone will then realize that the other one was most likely a fake death as well. In fact, we really don’t even need to wait until either bam to claim the victory; the evidence is so strong right now, that nobody can get away with ridiculing either Elvis or MJ hoax fans anymore!
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For all those who have ridiculed MJ hoax fans, by saying that we are just like Elvis hoax fans: now we can heartily agree—and say yes, and in fact we now have the strongest proof that Elvis hoax fans were right all along!
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6-3 TMZ Series on Lisa Marie Presley
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Of course Lisa Marie is one of the major links between Elvis and MJ. The sunflowers have already been discussed in great length; but this redirect was more to point out the timing of these six TMZ articles about LMP. Notice that the very first mention of Elvis from TIAI was on 5-10 {You are not allowed to view links.
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6-5 “I spoke with Elvis/Jesse”
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This webpage did not have an anchor at the right part of the page for a normal jump, so a “jumpless-pointer” was included in the URL. Of course there are many things on the page of interest; but the most significant was that Linda had talked with Jesse one day prior to May 13, 2010—which means that Elvis is still alive now. And we know that Linda is not a fake, because Eliza has a link to her page (see 6-7, below); and also because Linda was involved with Dr. Hinton, the one who was cleared of fraud charges {You are not allowed to view links.
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6-6 TIAI Update on 5-12, and the First Syllable of EL-VIS
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As mentioned already, TMZ started their LMP series on 5-12 (see 6-3, above). On May 13, Linda said “I spoke with Elvis/Jesse yesterday” (see 6-5, above); this means that it would’ve been on 5-12, which again was the day of Update 5 being posted (and Update 5 had 12 sections). Notice also that the first syllable of EL-VIS is EL; E = 5 (fifth letter), and L = 12 (twelfth letter): 5-12 once again! Also, 5 + 1 + 2 = 8, which is the primary number in Elvis numerology (see 6-8, below).
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6-7 Eliza Presley’s Website, With Link to Linda’s Website
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This redirect was both for the purpose of showing Eliza’s website, and also for showing that Eliza links to Linda’s website (mentioned in 6-5, above). And notice the timing of the following entries, in relation to the TIAI Elvis redirect on 5-10-2010; as well as the TIAI Update #5a to #5d on 5-12 to 5-19 {You are not allowed to view links.
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6-8 Elvis & MJ Numerology
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This redirect was on the 8th day of the month, because 8 is the primary number in the Elvis “death” numerology. Elvis “died” on 8-16-1977. The month and day add up to 24 (8 + 16= 24); and the year adds up to 24 (1 + 9 + 7 + 7 = 24). And 24 is 8 + 8 + 8 (888); similar to the MJ numerology 777 & 999 (see below). Elvis was also born on the 8th day of the month (1-8-1935). And Elvis/Jesse has confirmed that this numerology and exact “death” date was planned, and done intentionally {You are not allowed to view links.
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Since MJ learned from Elvis: this proves that the MJ numerology was also planned, and is not some astronomical coincidence. Since it was planned, then this shows once again that the numerology does indeed explain some of the reasons for the MJ death hoax. Below is a brief overview of some of the MJ numerology. {For more details, see: You are not allowed to view links.
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MJ had “777” on his red shirt in “THIS IS IT” {also on the History album cover, etc; You are not allowed to view links.
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MJ had 1998 on the cover of the Dangerous album, and also signed this number on many autographs. 1998 / 2 = 999; 1 + 998 = 999, 1 + 9 + 9 + 8 = 27, 2 + 7 = 9; etc. Also, “THIS IS IT” has three vowels, III = 999 (9th letter of the alphabet).
The “death” was 77 days from 9-9-09 (999), and the burial was 7 days from 9-9-09; this makes three sevens (777) linked directly with 9-9-09. {Note: you must use inclusive reckoning; see 4-10 in Update #4b, You are not allowed to view links.
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The memorial was on the 7th day of the 7th month, 7 years after the date on the will; again, three sevens (777). The memorial was also on a full moon (the official full moon, in this case).
And there are three sevens (777) in the timing of the 911 call (12:21) and the “death” (2:26). Also, the 911 call was placed at 12:21, because this number is divisible by 111—along with almost all of the MJ hoax numbers; in fact, “THIS IS IT” is 111 minutes long. Finally, the 12:21 call relates to the date 12-21-2012.
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6-9 Elvis & MJ “Death” Dates Equal Concert Intro
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Add the day, month, and year together: 8 + 16 + 1977 = 2001. This is the name of a film about space, which was a favourite of Elvis—so much so, that he used the song from it to open his concerts {You are not allowed to view links.
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Did MJ learn about this as well, and incorporate the same numerology clue into his own fake death? Yes, indeed he did! 6 + 25 + 2009 = 2040. This is the year that MJ had clearly shown on the bottom of the space ship, in his concert intro! {See 0:15, You are not allowed to view links.
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This again proves that MJ planned his “death” to the very day, many years ago (as I have said all along). And why would 6-25-2009 need to be the exact day? Not for the memorial on 7-7-09; the “death” could’ve been before or after 6-25, and still had the memorial on the full moon July 7. It’s because 6-25-09 is the only day that is 77 days from 9-9-09; and this locks in 999 with the MJ numerology, as well as 1998 and all the rest.
If there are still some who say that they don’t believe in the numbers: don’t let them off the hook that easily; be nice, but be firm! Ask why they don’t believe in the numbers; and ask them to calculate the odds that these numbers were all coincidence. If they are not mathematical, then find a math teacher! If they really want to know the truth, and they are truly investigating, then this is the way to find out the truth. But if they don’t want to bother with any of this, then it would show that the real problem is not in the numbers; the real problem is that they don’t want the truth.
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6-10 Are TIAI Posts Too Long?
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MJFAN7 wrote: “... I wasn’t looking forward to reading the long posts about TIAI Revealed until I started reading them. Then I couldn’t stop!” This is good advice, especially for those who have spent a year now investigating and researching the hoax—and yet have not spent a few days reading posts which make very clear the when, why, and even the some of the how.
On this day (6-10), discussion turned once again to the subject of who is behind TIAI and TS posts. This has been brought up repeatedly, and I have repeatedly asked: does it matter? What’s important is the accuracy of the information presented (see 6-12, below). If it’s full of holes, then step up and state your case; and if not, then accept it.
For your information: I am familiar with the STUDY website. Does this mean that it is me, my website? Maybe; or maybe it’s someone I know; or maybe that website was used as a decoy. Regardless of which is the actual case: you are being tested, to see whether you can unbiasedly assess evidence based upon the evidence itself—and not on who the evidence came from, or who you think it came from, etc.
Many are failing the test, and they didn’t even know that they were being tested. In fact, there is no better way to test people, than to do it without their knowledge; then people act natural, and don’t try to make themselves into something artificial. Does it make any difference, whether you pass or fail this test? Good question; but I won’t give the answer to that right now.
However, I will give another hint on my identity, and the source for my information: so far, I have only seen one discussion that was correct. Should Jacksons tweet about This Is Also It, as some have suggested, so that there will be no doubt? Actually, I already addressed this very question in Update #2 {You are not allowed to view links.
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6-11 Some Elvis Fans Have “Kept the Faith” for More than 30 Years!
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Quoting from that redirect: “It never ceases to amaze me how quickly the doubts creep in as soon as something ‘new’ happens. ... When the doubts do creep in, read over the hoax summary threads and especially TS’s posts. But most importantly, keep the faith and the L.O.V.E. alive.”
It reminds me of this passage, from James: “But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.” (James 1:6-8).
Many Elvis fans have kept the faith for more than 30 years—with less clues than we have about MJ; it puts some of us MJ hoax fans to shame! With all the evidence we have now, especially with Elvis being alive: there is no need to waver anymore over whether MJ is alive—he has already gone back and forth from alive to dead, and back to alive again, hundreds of times! Has anybody else ever died that many times??? :lol: :lol:
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There were some good comments for the day, on this redirect {You are not allowed to view links.
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And for those who still aren’t sure if TS has inside information: one more time, here is the TIAI list of predictions, etc—with the latest Elvis ones added. Please note that these are merely reminders; if you are new, some of these might not make sense without reading all of the TS posts first.
#1. MJ investigation complete, only two days after TIAI announced Update #1.
#2. 333 pages of FBI files, planned release on same day as TIAI Revealed.
#3. $9.99 while LaToya shopping, connecting with “99” days after 9-9-09.
#4. Six 911 articles on TMZ, the day after TIAI conspiracies on Google (911, etc).
#5. Murray on TMZ news four times, the same day as the TIAI Murray redirect.
#6. Vendetta on 11-5; Evan Chandler / Emerald City on 11-17 (70th anniversary).
#7. 2012 trailer, a week before “Jackson” and many other MJ parallels came out.
#8. TII Resurrection scene in a graveyard (not funeral & casket, etc).
#9. TII would Reveal the hoax (Smooth Criminal, no RIP, BAM statement, etc).
#10. TII would show the MJ “Return” (this very word is now on the DVD).
#11. 1998 autograph codes; 77 days & 7 days all pointed to 9-9-09, fulfilled by several TII and MJ related events.
#12. ALLJACK5ONS tweet on 1-18 about TIAI “Revealed” (also the 3-11 tweet).
#13. TMZ clue on January 25.
#14. TMZ, Murray, and murder versus hoax clue on February 5.
#15. High probability of “piece by piece” return starting in January (see #12, etc).
#16. Autopsy finalized 9-9-09, released just one day after I said “9-9-09 update”.
#17. TIAI redirect to TMZ, less than an hour before the big MJ Killed Himself post.
#18. Update #4 (4-44), #17 article posted on 4-4 at 4:00 AM (444).
#19. Elvis redirect on 5-10, several Elvis events happen from 5-12 to 5-20 (next).
#20. Update 5 (with 12 sections) on 5-12 at 5:12 AM; later that day TMZ starts LMP series from 5-12 to 5-17. Also, Linda talks to Jesse on 5-12.
#21. The final part of TIAI Update (#5d) is posted evening of 5-19 (CA time). On 5-19, Eliza posted a message on her homepage, for the first time in about four months; then on 5-20, the article by attorney Mayoras was posted (6-1, above).
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6-13 TIAI Update #5 (by MJalive999)
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This video is a good overview of Update #5 {see also the second half, You are not allowed to view links.
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Both of these video sets include a list of questions, from Update #5d. So far, I haven’t seen anyone even attempt to answer more than two or three of the questions; and the attempted answers have been rather shallow.
For example on the MJHDI YouTube video page {see last link above}, there was an answer to this question: “F2. Are we to believe that MJ’s own family is ignorant of his role in the Liberian Girl video? And if not, then why did they allow Liberian Girl pictures to dominate both the memorial and the burial? Would they be so cruel, as to send fans the message that he is hiding behind the camera and running The Show—if in reality MJ was actually dead???”
Here is the answer: “Liberian Girl picture was beautiful that’s why they used it ...”; at least this is a genuine attempt at answering! It’s a thousand times better than mere ridicule—which is what almost everyone resorts to, when they can’t deal with the evidence. However, it still leaves 20 out of 21 questions unanswered. Furthermore, this answer infers that all other MJ pictures are NOT “beautiful”—so in order to have beautiful pictures, they were stuck PRIMARILY using Liberian Girl pictures!?!
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6-14 Dots Of TMZ Show
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In Update #5, the first letter in each section title spelled out “Dots Of TMZ Show”. Also, the title itself had dots in it: DO you Think 4 your Self? Furthermore, as lilwendy figured out {You are not allowed to view links.
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“Dots Of TMZ Show” was the redirect for the Murray court day; and yes, TMZ did have a show on that day. However, this redirect referred to more than just the one day; it also refers to connecting the dots both before and after June 14.
When connecting dots, you can look for the first letter in each line—such as Serenitys_Dream and others have done. However, be sure to look for more than just the first letter in each line. Sometimes the message is in the pictures, or article titles, etc. In fact, sometimes the dots are in articles which are not even MJ related—such as the “Still Alive” heading, on the 6-14 Murray court day {You are not allowed to view links.
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As stated in Update #5c, however, TMZ dots are not the basis for believing in the hoax; so don’t use these as “proof” for non-believers. The TMZ show dots are hints and clues for those who already know that MJ is “still alive”.
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6-15 Running Out of Ideas?
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This actually goes back to a thread from April 2; several on that thread thought that TS was “running out of ideas”. What do you think—looking back over the redirects and updates from April, May, and June—were they right?
Even now, I am not running out of ideas; actually, everything covered so far has just been an introductory course.  But most people think that what I’ve written already is far too much; so how is even more going to help them?
Yes, this redirect also had the “BAM” in the signature. Especially in view of that last paragraph: Update #7 most likely will not be before bamsday—whether that is in June, July, or later. There may be more redirects, but probably not on a regular or daily basis.
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6-16 (Waiting for) Update #6
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Just like all the other TIAI updates, there is an important date associated with the final section in this update: 6-16. June 16, 2010 is two months until the 33rd anniversary of the Elvis fake death, and 9 days until the 1st anniversary of the MJ fake death.
And when bamsday does come—whether sooner or later, there will of course be great rejoicing! But don’t expect things to just go back to entertainment as usual; as you already know, if you’ve read all the TIAI/TS posts, there will be a major battle ahead (Army of LOVE). And remember the following, from Threatened lyrics {You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: October 25, 2010, 06:20:00 PM »
Fema camps will begin 2012
Fema coffins for those who die. The illuminati are Evil!
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« on: October 11, 2010, 06:21:25 PM »
The murder theory is not real. Mj is still alive.
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« on: October 06, 2010, 10:58:04 AM »
There is a theory of Michael Jacksaon having a twin brother. Is it true or fake? 
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« on: September 05, 2010, 08:49:53 AM »
Michael Jackson feared for his life. That is one reasonwhy he hoaxed his death. In tapes MJ sounded freaked out. He is STILL alive! The hoax was planned by. This was because of fear of being murdered.
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« on: September 04, 2010, 02:53:18 PM »
[font=][font=][font=][font=][font=][font=][font=]The End is almost here. December 21,2012 is doomsday. I think there will be a solar flare that will hit and get trapped in the magnetosephere and then cause the core to start shiftng. There will be earthquakes, valcanic eruptions, and mega tsunamis. It will be hell on earth This is Michael's message.
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