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« on: December 07, 2010, 07:36:38 AM »
OLD ARTICLE about Mike seen as the archangel - courtesy to a fan, Pompous Git, from Maximus Jackson fan page You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login - Archangel Michael puts Jehovah's Witnesses in turmoil
Split as star's Thriller fans form the MJ CultFrom PHILIP FINN in New York POP superstar Michael Jackson has been pronounced the Archangel Michael by adoring young members of his religious sect, the Jehovah Witnesses. But it has bitterly divided the two and a half million Witnesses world-wide and upset the clean-living singer. Older Church members far from putting Jackson on a pedestal, cannot forgive him for appearing as a devilish werewolf in his smash-hit video, Thriller. Young Witnesses, hooked on the Prince of Pop's music, his dress and his shadow dancing have formed the MJ Cult. They believe the 26-year old multi-millionaire is the Archangel Michael as described in the Book of Daniel, Chapter 12. Verse 1, and "will deliver his people" Part of the passage reads: "And at that time, shall Michael stand up, the Great Prince which standeth for the Children of God." But more fundamental witnesses feel Jackson represents an unhealthy and decadent faction which is damaging the Church's image. James Penton, a professor of religious studies in Alberta, Canada, said yesterday that Jackson had even been threatened with disfellowship, excommunication from the Church because of his "worldly activities." Professor Penton who says he was himself excommunicated in 1981 that Jackson subsequently renounced the Thriller video in an issue of Awake, a sect publication which has a circulation of nine million. In the article, Jackson says: "I realise now it was not a good idea…I'll never do a video like that again." The row is expected to explode next month with a week-long series of protests by young dissidents outside the Witnesses' headquarters in Brooklyn, New York. One of the protest Organisers. Mr David Riccobini, of Connecticut, said "It is the first time Witness kids have had someone to look up to. Otherwise they lead a very drab life." Jackson, who often disguises himself to do missionary work for the Church, was touring last night and unavailable But friends say he is "deeply troubled" by the row. (Daily Express 30/8/84).Reply With Quote
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« on: December 07, 2010, 04:43:04 AM »
I know I do not post much but I follow this site and admire your efforts and unity....
My opinion on numerology is this
- numerology is very well represented on kabbalah and various religions ( recommend Papus/Gérard Encauss works on Kabalah and numerology )
- while certain numbers that are so well known - as the significance of 7 as holly number, 3 seen as symbol of trinity, 666 satanic number, 13 unlucky number etc - and folks paying certain amount of attention to these numbers I see as perfect normal
- Also the number 7 is very important in MIke's life. But we see it now, it's sort like destiny... Not Mike as in doing calculations to fit his life around those numbers, to fit the number 7. Numbers are important in ones destiny, but we only see it after time passes not before. We cannot shape life around numbers.
- to make calculations on everything, and assume Mike calculated everything and shaped his life for years this way.... now this is huge difference.... Mike wore 777 numbers, was fascinated with 7, under his signature wrote for few years the 1998 year ( childish thing ) and that was pretty much everything, the only connections that Mike had with numerology. I do not believe Mike shaped his years of life here, making calculations to fit other calculations.
- some people think that numbers can influence ones life but through centuries I do not see that this can be proved
- However number connections can be made in infinite permutations about everything, every subject every topic, everything can be expressed in numbers and random links can be made in all directions, showing them as having some 'deep meaning'.... when in fact are just connections, nothing more... Links that human mind can make and play with.... One can make those links relating for example a potato to the moon. Or excrement to diamonds. ( let me do the calculations LOL )
- Those theories escaping control, made in abundance, with those countless numbers and calculations - sorry for me saying this - are signs of people manipulating others to fit their agenda, or even worse people generating huge amounts of these, can show signs of paranoia syndrome, with conspiracy theories as part of the hallucination process.
If one want to understand this better - there are clinical books out there, dealing with paranoia, or even easier a movie I recommend - Beautiful Mind ( got Oscar for best film ) where the central personage is dealign with this disease, and losing himself in calculations. The film inspired by real life/character.
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« on: November 25, 2010, 03:28:21 AM »
Would your "title" make your point more valid than mine? :lol:
No, I didn't said that. And I am sorry I mentioned my studies. You can laugh on me some more if you want, as this is so funny... Also if you wanna believe that back is Michael, believe it. Just remember the act of believing is not actually fact. It's just belief. You can also believe that the Earth is flat. 
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« on: November 23, 2010, 05:01:59 AM »
I do not think Mike got chronically hateful... at some point bursts of anger, depression, feeling deceived, maybe even disgust.... but hate as in hate, I do not think.
I don't know who Back is.... What I can say about the person analyzing the style is that - It's a man, he is introvert, intuitive type, melancholic, cynical, with some paranoia accents, reading a lot, very intuitive to the point to become prophetic.
From here to assume that he is MICHAEL is long way though..... He might be, I am not saying I am sure of anything.... I kinda tend to not believe it's him, but we cannot know all, can we? So yeah in that sense he might be.
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« on: November 23, 2010, 04:26:23 AM »
there a very big difference between hate and anger/rage. It's not the same thing. The fact that you are enraged or feel a big anger towards someone doesn't mean you hate the person. yes this is true. The need to criticize, also the feeling of anger are perfectly normal. ( I've saw on many Boards, that fans are confusing critics/ anger with hate... the expressions 'hating', 'haters' are very used when somebody maybe just criticize or is ignorant ) Hate is something that lasts and haunts a person for months and years.... becoming like an obsession, it's very powerful.... While anger might accompany the hate, anger can subsist alone, without hate. When anger is alone, it comes and passes. When hate is in the mix, it stays for looong time...
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« on: November 23, 2010, 04:22:29 AM »
The therapy would be more efective if done as a full self, i.e signing with your own name, not a pseudoname. As a psychology graduate, and with studies in psychotherapy and practice... I got to say is so far away from the truth... However I doubt that Back is Michael.... I do not think he would write many times on the net... dunno why... this is just personal feeling not based on anything... just a hunch that is not him.
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« on: November 22, 2010, 03:35:54 PM »
Thank you for this topic. This is very interesting..... I am gonna try this thing with the Crystal Pendulum. I've never did that so I will see it how is going and gonna come back telling to you guys...
Got an amethyst pendulum that I've bought, I've thought is a jewelry pendant... So I will use this one.
As we are talking here about let's say, bit of paranormal stuff... I gotta tell you that I've tried Tarot reading. ( not classical ones but Osho cards ) A friend of mine gave me a book for my birthday few years ago, before the trial, and I bought the Osho Tarot cards.
In total I did few readings,and creepy enough, all of them were exactly what I said it would be. I did them half serious half not believing.... like a try.... not at all like an obsession....
So before the trial of Michael, the trial appeared in the cards. My first ever reading on Mike, and I saw the Justice and Death card in the soon future. Of course I've tried to downplay this and say probably financial trial..... just to not get frightened by this.....
After a year, the trial came, and I was terrified... :?
I also did few readings for 2 of my friends, and marriages I predicted to them ( before even meeting the guy! ) happened, and one was married in US, and I told her she will go very far away.... So again strange....
Reading for Mike.... believe I stopped for while doing that out of fear!
But in the weeks before verdict I tried again and saw good results., However I still was stressed and freaking out as hell, because I am skeptical, I cannot believe 100% into that stuff.
After June 25, few months passed.... The with tears in my eyes I've tried again... Death card did not appear. But curiously and strangely, the Schizophrenia card ( signifying duplicity, some hidden half ) appeared as very important one and some other cards cards that indicate a double life and high stress into hiding. :shock:
Again, I am skeptical, I cannot fully believe this.... It's so damning to see that those things came the exact way I saw in cards, and in the same time for me to be so skeptical, every time.... Lot of inner fight in me about this...
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« on: July 12, 2010, 04:58:19 AM »
I hope he does come back. But when I think about his disappearance I think he could do a simple one. Why did he involve an innocent man like Murray? A simple heart attack or accident would be enough for him to disappear. And why did he chose to say HI with the 02 speech and BYE so soon after? Why did he need to arrange the London tour? He could disappear easily but he didn't perefer it, why? I think we should think about this.
OMG! I am asking myself this all the time!
That's why if Mike is alive, he is because of a danger of some kind. This is the only plausible explanation for me.
To make it look real because doctors and Jacksons knew Michael had a strong and powerful heart therefore he couldn't have had a heart attack by just taking two or three pills, you know? That had to happen by mixing some sort of powerful drugs like propofol, Lidocaine and so on..And he couldn't administer himself propofol through IV, it had to be someone else..And that's why he might have instisted on hiring Murray, not anyone else (remember when allegedly Dileo said with the money Michael was offering Murray he could have had an entire hospital at his feet, but he only wanted THAT SPECIFIC DOCTOR).
Now I admit there are lots of inconsistencies in the autopsy report and in the effects those drugs could have had over "Michael"..they don't add up..but well, maybe that was just part of the plan
Oh, thank you. Very good answer... It makes perfectly sense. And now I think at that medical assurance they signed for concerts. It needed to fit the assurance. Thank you for the answer. :mrgreen:
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« on: July 09, 2010, 03:51:50 AM »
You know, I think we have to take into consideration where MJ was in his life when he gave this interview...
For the simple fact that a few years later he told Martin B that he never wanted to die, he wanted to live forever exactly.... We all have our moments of depression when we wish we could vanish.... That doesn't mean that we do it. At least most of us. If he did disappear because of this, that means he is severely depressed...And it does not make sense, because after the trial was better time to do it. He went to Bahrain then... it was perfect timing for 'vanishing'. I hope he does come back. But when I think about his disappearance I think he could do a simple one. Why did he involve an innocent man like Murray? A simple heart attack or accident would be enough for him to disappear. And why did he chose to say HI with the 02 speech and BYE so soon after? Why did he need to arrange the London tour? He could disappear easily but he didn't perefer it, why? I think we should think about this. OMG! I am asking myself this all the time! That's why if Mike is alive, he is because of a danger of some kind. This is the only plausible explanation for me.
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« on: July 09, 2010, 03:39:01 AM »
to sk2001
absolutely, now i got it
and i agree that in order to be remembered as a myth, as a legend, always beautiful and stunning, one needs to die young, this is a fact and makes sense.MJ hoaxs his death, people rememebr him always energetic, beautiful ,hot and his legacy lives forever, meanwhile he is enjoying life somewhere on the planet not as the king of pop but as simply Michael until the end of his life. yeah, perfect! Letting your kids behind, and enjoying life somewhere in the planet. What kind of father is this? Outstanding human being, speaking about LOVE?! Whatever. :| Or staying close of his kids, not abandoning them, but hiding all the time, like a worm, like a lizard, always fearing to be seen. Putting his kids to all this pretending, and lie, his kids would have to lie their friends all the time, and just live a lie, day by day... till will grow in years, and their entire life would be for the world a half lie. It would so sad and pathetic. And Mike won't enjoy this too much, maybe first couple of years... but after .... Some of those thoughts Mike had expressed on those tapes, are just thoughts... some are brilliant, some are less... representing Mike's own struggles and yeah, own limitations.... Doesn't mean that Mike wanted that. many of us wish things, but doesn't mean we really go out there and do them, because some of them are just plain silly compensatory fantasies. I am not anti the thought that Mike might be alive, all I am saying is that this fantasy of his, is not the reason of the hoax. If this is the reason, it would be so silly, and he needs his a*ss kicked!
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« on: June 30, 2010, 07:33:50 AM »
I do not see any future problem in court, in relation with fraud issues.
The only thing that might be problematic - are those not returned money for the tickets for This is It concerts. Some fans chose the option of letting the money to the AEG/Estate and ask only the ticket as souvenir.
So with those money it can be argued that they chose the option, under high stress circumstances. So they were tricked to gave up on those sums, instead of asking them back. And that it would be not correct if AEG made money on base of a trick/hoax. Basically it's fraud and trickery.
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« on: May 25, 2010, 04:39:00 AM »
But Mike already wrote an illustrated BOOK about this subject. :shock:
Why in the world somebody else rushes to this idea, exploit this, before the Mike's novel is out, confusing fans and readers? They will rush & buy because sounds familiar ( it was briefly talked in few articles ) and because the subject is very interesting.
For me this is almost like plagiarizing - using some original quotes from those articles I've mentioned, profiting of the same theme .... Anyway is kinda confusing. :?
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« on: April 23, 2010, 05:33:39 AM »
I don't know why we can say Mike was there disguised when we do not see nothing clearly. Better to put logic and perspective into this and see WHY the need for a living Mike to enter hospital anyway?
We can have many options as
1.- Mike was on that stretcher and he was in bad shape near death. Doctors rescued him and now he is alive.
2. Mike was on that stretcher and he was in bad shape near death. Doctors failed in their try to stabilize him and he indeed died.
3.- Mike was already dead on the stretcher
4.- Mike was well, absolute no emergency but he walked near the stretcher. Great danger to be depicted, and stupid act to enter this way into hospital. Why the need?
5.- Mike was well and damn far away ( a logical and safe thing to do in these circumstances of hoaxing his own death), on the stretcher was a look alike, or nobody at all. And the pic was fake.
4.- Mike was well, absolute no emergency but he walked near the stretcher. In great danger to be depicted, and stupid act to enter this way into hospital. Why the need?
Is the less probable of all. Almost laughable.. . so you peel your eyes for nothing folks. Even if you see a pair of extra legs, maybe it's a person you didn't depict in all those poor web pics
( there are pics at 72 dpi that looks 100% better than these )
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« on: April 21, 2010, 09:12:49 AM »
we should be happy for wonderful stories about him.
if no friend tells stories, then all that's left is the tabloid stories... And Mike as a person, and soul will slowly fade away, and after we die, nobody will know the truth. :cry:
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« on: April 21, 2010, 08:06:02 AM »
Those pics are OLD! They sit on my hard for ages! :lol:
This is MIke not an impersonator. Those pics were taken 90s, 1997-1999... ( don't remember the year exactelly, but it's certain that those were not post 2000 )
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