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« on: June 16, 2011, 09:36:07 PM »
hi Front, would you care to make a comment on this thread? This is to show you what a crook Branca is!! You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Loginthere are quite a few investigative threads other than the BACK thread that are as interesting and relevant. back then, Back was very helpful in pointing out media lies and other info that mere fans were not privy to. "Light is very much needed in these times of darkness." TIA!
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« on: June 14, 2011, 10:40:23 PM »
Got to leave the calculations to the number people. :oops: So 21 + 1 = catch 22, 8/ 10+1=11/ 11 is 777 days? Summer's heating up!
i'm with you, MJonmind. math has never been my specialty, so i leave that to them. but i also think it's possible that these numbers have personal significance to him, but not to us. with that premise in mind, i put down my and paper after a few attempts 2 years ago. i also don't know if the exact date of his return can be figured out mathematically, because i guess it would depend on whether or not his plans have been fully accomplished. i mean, he didn't hoax for nothing? to me, 777 is perfection and full completion. it doesn't matter how long it takes, as long as the plan is made perfect. ingredients don't matter as much as the fact that the pie has to be baked at 340 degrees. ok, maybe this is lazy-brain thinking. i still say i'm not touching those numbers anymore.  but, the fact that he's giving us these numbers could also mean he wants us to be aware of their significance. so thanks to the numbers people who are giving these a go.
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« on: June 11, 2011, 11:50:55 PM »
@ Frenchbraid: we're coming from different "PERSPECTIVES." i thought he was replying to this... didn't someone suggest a while ago that back thought michael was dead? and this.........(sorry, don't know how to use multi-quote here) Re: For those of you losing faith, take a look "BACK" shall Postby bec » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:54 pm I wouldn't suggest to know what anyone thinks, but back did confirm the "death" post 6/25/09... more or less... depending on how you interpreted the post.
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« on: June 11, 2011, 10:01:24 PM »
hmmm i thought he was referring to the Theory or Vision post, which was about 6-25-09...and that depending on our perspective, we could take his post to mean he's dead, or HE ISN'T.
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« on: June 10, 2011, 11:46:30 PM »
nothing intellectual to contribute here. i'm giving my mind some rest and following my heart, instead. i hope it leads me to the right place ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: moonwalk_/
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« on: June 10, 2011, 03:36:36 AM »
I'm watchin' - that's all, no comment, just watching! me, too...and waiting with bated breath for his return. ![]()
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« on: June 02, 2011, 09:58:41 PM »
This is new information which contradicts a lot of what we've been told. So if Michael was staying at the Bel Air, this would contradict some of what Kai Hilton reported. How could he be staying at both places?
However, the place where he was staying is connected with Christian Audigier, which is connected to Ed Hardy, etc.
Michael was filmed along with Christian Audigier months before his "death". Audigier announced a COMEBACK. So maybe the house was a decoy for the hoax death. Also, remember that Carrie Fisher was suspicious about the ridiculously expensive house he rented where he never actually lived!!! someone above asked when he moved into the Bel Air Hotel. You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginNational Photo Group, from the beginning, “wanted to be the Michael Jackson agency,” Evenstad says. “There’s always money to be made with Michael, so we started shooting him every day.” [u]Last fall, when Jackson moved into the Bel-Air Hotel, in Los Angeles[/u], Christopher Weiss and another photographer were assigned to be, as Weiss puts it, “soldiers of the sit.” He, too, became friendly with the singer’s core group of fans: mostly young, attractive, European women.i think the above would be just about right. that's when he relocated from Las Vegas, and then we read that he moved into Carolwood in December 2008. so when Kathy Hilton said he was living at the Bel Air Hotel right before he died, maybe she had in mind a quite loose timeline? because after all, she knew where to go when she heard he died. it's just that she was seen going at night, and not right after she heard. but then again, liegi mentioned Carrie Fisher, who said: You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginI visited him over the Christmas holiday at that weirdly expensive rental home somewhere here in Southern Cal. [u]What’s odd is that I see fans laying flowers in front of homes that I don’t think Michael ever lived in.[/u] But then this whole scene is odd.where else would fans go and bring their flowers, aside from Forest Lawn? 1oo Carolwood was the only KNOWN place that Michael lived in. Carrie must have been seeing photos of those flowers at the gate, and maybe she's thinking 'this is not the house Michael lived in when I visited him.' also, the OVGuide video from last year showed the guy who was trying to persuade Michael to pull down the Christmas wreaths on the gate, go to a 3rd gate, a back gate. it certainly didn't look like the main gate or the one with the garage. the gate was opened and someone quickly grabbed the bag of flags that the man brought and then closed the gate on the man's face. but alphaba2 here says she walked around the property AGAIN and really didn't see a third gate. she has an earlier video about this where she said the same thing, and she was asked to look again the next time she was at Carolwood, and now she confirms that she didn't see the gate OVGuide went to. You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Loginfrom 3:05 - 3:25 also, if they say paparazzi and fans camped out everyday, waiting to photograph Michael and the children's comings and goings, why aren't there any pictures at all? at least i haven't seen any. Big E said fans were there everyday and every time they come out of the gate, Michael would even open his window and shake hands or something. but there are no photos. so i think it's also possible that Carolwood was a big misdirection. he possibly rented it as well, but maybe he didn't actually live there. he would go there for show sometimes, and can easily come in through the garage entrance without being seen because it was on one side of the property, and leave again through the main gate - to show himself to the fans. there is this TMZ :x article about MJ wanting to buy a Bel Air Mansion. in the photo is Barbara Mori, a Mexican actress. You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Loginbut it seems the TRUE story is here: You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginAccording to the Roshans, Jackson casually walked into Hrithik's makeup room in a Bel Air apartment in LA, where the actor was shooting for Kites. The story goes that first Jackson' bodyguards entered. Hrithik was taken aback to see the burly men. On questioning them, [u]he learned that they were Jackson's bodyguards come to do a recce as the pop star was shooting the next day at the same venue[/u].
Coincidentally, Jackson also dropped in the same day as the Kites team was shooting. "My name is Michael," he is reported to have told Hrithik, his Mexican co-star Barbara Mori, and Rakesh Roshan. "It was funny to see someone like him who the whole world knows introducing himself. Jackson and Hrithik spoke for a short time and then the singer left," said a source.
"I've been a huge Jackson fan since childhood," said Hrithik. "So dad requested the mansion owner that we'd like to come over and meet Jackson. Instead he turned up in the room to meet us. That meeting is etched in my memory."
According to Roshan Sr, "Michael Jackson was very curious about our shooting."You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Loginso what was Michael shooting? of course it's also possible that it was just an excuse he made and that he was really interested in the mansion...but what i'm saying is no one bothers to verify such articles so manipulation from the enemy camp - or Michael's, is easy. and this hoax has got to have given us - or that other camp - some misdirections. Carolwood might have been one of them.
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« on: June 01, 2011, 11:09:31 PM »
Hi Sunburst,
I am not certain how MJ's mom fits into this. I haven't looked into any of it since the legal action was taken against this Melissa J. You're funny! I TOO wondered, with all the rumors that MJ is going to come back "different", if Melissa Johnson was a pseudonym...to transfer control of the charity to his new self. :? :oops: But this woman is just a viper, hiding and waiting, with her husband, to strike MJ when he was overwhelmed in legal trouble.
[/color][/b] thanks for the reply, Its Her  all of what you said makes it even more questionable that Ms Kate is supporting her. but i guess we'll know the truth in time.
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« on: May 30, 2011, 10:44:35 PM »
I can't believe no one said this, so I will. Branca is a GOOD guy. The two actions I highlighted in your post are GREAT things! He knows exactly what he is doing to protect Michael Jackson's Heal The World charity. He has contacts, alright, with MICHAEL JACKSON, who OWNS those trademarks AND the BRAND.
Melissa Johnson is the thief and liar who hijacked the trademarks and all of the MJ copyrighted property on the HTW website, and turned it into some kind of a business for profit, as soon as he died. I don't believe it has even done any charity work, since she and her husband helped themselves to MJ's property and took over. She also tries to further jack the court and all his fans, with her online sob story that MJ TOLD her to do this. Do not believe her.
MJ was CEO, and the ONLY one overseeing the business of the charity. While he was up to his eyes in legal problems, being prosecuted for child molestation, the charity was placed on hold and some fee or tax went overlooked, inadvertently. Johnson strategically pounced and stole everything, in the manner of a squatter, which is not legal in business!!
Didn't you guys notice a stark difference in the "flavor" of the HTW website and some logos afraid/ errrr , when he "died"? She is an evil opportunist, without a charitable bone in her body. All MJ's poetry and thoughts that he wrote for people to read openly, she locked up, so that you had to register and give her database your information. Her plan was to have children send in their pennies to finance the "charity", and dutifully, as loyal soldiers in MJ's Army, have their parents purchase all kinds of overpriced stuff to pad her pockets with...She is a thief and a liar. :x
Someone hijacking a charity deserves more than jail time!! :x
two thumbs up, Its Her! i didn't know that Melissa Johnson has enriched herself through HTWF, though i read somewhere here that her HTWF donations totaled only $5,000+ as of 2009, i think. someone also said that right after MJ left, she was busy buying his domains instead of grieving. so why do you think Ms Katherine is on Melissa Johnson's (MJ afraid/ ) side? she's the wild card that made me doubt Branca. is she merely ensuring that she knows what goes on inside and vetoing decisions that further exploit MJ? she even brought the children in :?
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« on: May 14, 2011, 02:13:00 AM »
yes but what if 0:18 in the trailer is just a coincindence?
and is it really Michael's voice saying "keep watchin' "?
what if there's a giant conpiracy to make us believe he's alive? 1. sounds like it is. beautiful whisper to my ears 2. i think the Jacksons - Jermaine - wouldn't have waited this long to speak out and tell us not to believe the so-called clues because it's his killers putting them out. and even then, he just said it's not true, he's dead. which is all he can really say, really. :roll:
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« on: May 14, 2011, 12:06:18 AM »
if there's a poll for this one, i'd vote YES. MJ said history books lie. he wouldn't add to that lie, methinks. he'll set it straight - for the record...and make sure his biography is written factually, for a change. plus, if he merely wanted a private life, there are much simpler ways of going. of course they won't generate as much hoopla as the method he used, but i think the truths can only be told in this context - when he comes back.
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« on: May 06, 2011, 11:01:32 PM »
poor Jermaine...d----- if you do, d----- if you don't. MJ fans have been waiting for so long for them to address the hoax. now that he did, we're asking why. lolol/ though i understand it's the timing that's being questioned. and of course it means nothing as we can't expect him to say otherwise. here are interesting replies to him: bcox64 Bonnie Cox @jermjackson5 It's not denial, it's misinformation, like the same thing that is going on in the news today. @jermjackson5 It is VERY hard for fans to accept u r right. But it doesn't help when family members contradict each other, either @jermjackson5 You have fans that have been on this for two years, the whole time. The hoax talk increases with every contradiction @jermjackson5 If there weren't so many contradictions, the blogs pointing them out wouldn't be so popular. @jermjackson5 so if the hoax talk doesn't help anyone, you tell me what talk does, because none of this is helping anyone except ... @jermjackson5 someone's bottom line. If he is dead, tell the fans to go home . . . show's over. Am I wasting my time? Wld be nice to know and from her blog: You are not allowed to view links.
Register or LoginI would like to appeal to Jermaine to consider the fact that the FANS are not the ones putting out the conflicting information which they feel compelled to verify. If it weren’t for the consistent stirring of the pot on Twitter by family members, and the chess game in the online tabloids, fans wouldn’t be so misled.
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« on: December 22, 2010, 09:44:44 PM »
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« on: December 22, 2010, 09:43:45 PM »
thanks for the nice vid here's some related trivia: the line "This is it...clear your mind...believe" was spoken by Nicholas Cage in the movie The Sorcerer's Apprentice. his character was named Balthazar Blake, which has these meanings: Balthazar - -> God or Lord protect the king (You are not allowed to view links.
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Register or Login) Blake - -> Transferred use of the surname, which is of two separate derivations. It originates both from the Old En-glish blæc (black, dark-complexioned) and from the Old English blāc (bright, shining, pale, wan). The use of Blake as a given name stems from its prior use as a nick-name for someone with either a very dark or a very light complexion. (You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login) -> It is of Old English origin, and the meaning of Blake is "black; pale, white". Transferred use of the surname. Originally a nickname for someone with hair or skin that was either very dark (Old English "blaec") or very light (Old English "blac"). ((You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: November 19, 2010, 01:07:55 AM »
Word of the accident quickly reached Dr. Steven Hoefflin, Jackson's personal physician and plastic surgeon, who rushed to Cedars-Sinai. "It was quite a shock for Michael, and when I got there he was in a daze," reports Hoefflin. "After I examined him and told him he would be fine, he felt a lot better." Hoefflin, who once cosmetically reshaped Jackson's nose, decided to move his famous patient across town for treatment at the Burn Center of the Brotman Medical Center in Culver City.
another story says Hoefflin was at the set when it happened. the Bob mentioned here is Bob Giraldi. You are not allowed to view links.
Register or Login"a producer associate of mine, Bob, was the director on that set when the fire happened. he had a funny story about how, as they were wheeling MJ off the set, MJ's plastic surgeon - directly across the stretcher from Bob - kept staring at Bob. after 10 minutes of this, Bob said, "why do you keep staring at me, man?" so MJ's plastic surgeon tells Bob he could really benefit from a few procedures to soften his nose, bring out his main features, etc. (Bob's got on of those really big, classic Italian noses). he thought it was pretty funny - but ran away from the guy as quickly as he could." does it help? maybe not  . maybe Hoefflin just used to hang out with MJ on his projects or maybe this is just to emphasize again how inaccurate most media reports are about MJ. there was even a supposed quote from Hoefflin, who "rushed to Cedars-Sinai." either that, or somebody was lying :roll: and why they had to lie, i certainly don't know.
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