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Cirque du Soleil - The Immortal Tour / Is anyone here going to attend the show in Texas?

« on: February 13, 2012, 11:43:25 PM »

Hey guys!

I was just wondering if anyone has plans on attending any of the showings that will be in Texas. I plan on attending the Austin Show.

It would also be nice to know if any of you attended the show this past weekend in Houston Tx.

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21

« on: February 06, 2012, 04:31:45 AM »

We are talking in this topic about the Ark of the Covenant and the tablets of stone containing the commandments written with the finger of God that were placed inside the Ark.
The georgia guidestones also have a list of 10 commandments of the NWO's agenda. For comparison, this is their list.

THE MESSAGE OF THE GEORGIA GUIDESTONES
 
  1. Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
  2. Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.
  3. Unite humanity with a living new language.
  4. Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.
  5. Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
  6. Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
  7. Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
  8. Balance personal rights with social duties.
  9. Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.
10. Be not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.
 
Limiting the population of the earth to 500 million will require the extermination of nine-tenths of the world's people. The American Stonehenge's reference to establishing a world court foreshadows the current move to create an International Criminal Court and a world government. The Guidestones' emphasis on preserving nature anticipates the environmental movement of the 1990s, and the reference to "seeking harmony with the infinite" reflects the current effort to replace Judeo-Christian beliefs with a new spirituality.

I am once again totally speechless at the audacity and pride of man to raise his fist in defiance at the laws of the Living God.

I totally agree with you RK!

I agree that “looking at the man in the mirror” is very important and we must all strive to do this but the sad reality is that very few will choose to take this path. I’m not trying to be pessimistic. I’m simply stating the truth. Yes Michael has been spreading his message but of to no avail. He knows this very well. He would not have even bothered with this hoax if he felt otherwise. Most of the world has turned, and continues to turn, a blind eye to his message and instead, they focus on his rhythm and dance moves. I mean seriously… If people would heed his message like they devote themselves to everything else he has to offer, the world would have been changed a LONG time ago.

But the bottom line is that we ourselves, as humanity, can and will NEVER be able to achieve peace and harmony by our own power because we are tainted with sin. Only God can make all things perfect and new. We are scoffing at God and saying that we don’t need him when we say and believe that we ourselves are capable of achieving harmony with all men and nature. It just can’t be done. It has NEVER been done and it will NEVER be done without God’s divine intervention.

This current world and the way it is run, has to end in order for that to happen. There is NO other way. If we keep on like we are, we will most certainly enslave and ultimately destroy ourselves.

Michael does tell us that we have to ‘make that change’ but he also says >>

 ‘We gotta get it right while we got the time’

He knows that the clock is ticking. We do not have all of eternity to screw around (sorry for the vulgar term) and mess things up like we have been doing since the near beginning of our existence.
How can any of us possibly think that we have the solution when we, as the human race, are to blame for the sorry state of the world? Some will argue that it’s Satan’s fault but we are more to blame for allowing him to manipulate us. God gave us a free will after all.

Any peace that will come without God’s help will be a big lie. Anything that is made by the hands of man does not have God’s warrantee. In other words, it is not eternal and perfect.

Actually during the dark ages when the Roman Catholic Church ruled most of Europe with an iron fist, anyone who was caught keeping the true biblical Sabbath and not the ‘Sabbath’ mandated by the church was unable to buy or sell. This is an historical fact. They stood out like a sore thumb because they were marked by the Seal of God. The Sabbath is meant to be a sign between God and his people. The sign of obedience (forehead---frontal lobe) and the action of work (right hand symbolizes work)They were punished and if they did not comply with the law of the church, they were put to death in the most horrible of ways.  Now those who complied with the mandates of the church were spared and allowed to buy and sell and lead materially prosperous lives because they had the mark of the beast. >>>Obedience in observing the false Sabbath (forehead-frontal-lobe) and refraining from work on said ‘Sabbath’ (right hand symbolizing work)

As for The Keeping of all 10 commandments, we as followers of Christ (regardless of being Gentile or Jew) are obligated to keep them because they are God’s holy laws. Once we make up our mind to follow Christ, we are grafted in and become ‘adopted Jews’. The acts of keeping the commandments are not ‘deeds’ or ‘works’ at all. They are NOT ‘traditions of men’ because God was the one that instituted them. They are standards upon which we must live by. Sunday observance IS a ‘tradition of men’. Why is this even an issue? I mean we know that it’s wrong to break the rest of the commandments right? So what’s so difficult about this one? 

There is also no evidence in the bible that supports the idea that those who observe the Sabbath do not acknowledge that Jesus has come in the flesh to die for our sins. YES I know that the Jewish do not accept that Jesus has come yet and is the messiah but that’s just a percentage of those who do observe this day in accordance to God’s holy laws. SDA observe this day, RCG (Restored Church of God) and others observe this day as well. They all believe that Jesus came to earth to die for our sins. The Main reason that the Jewish people have not lost their identity is because they continue to follow that fundamental law.

You will be amazed to know how many of us actually come from Jewish lineage.

Here is a great book that talks about this. It’s very long but so worth the read. I have already read it myself. >>  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

 I am not saying that observing the true Sabbath is the path to salvation because it isn’t. It’s only part of it. It’s part of the ‘package’ so to speak. 

The Roman Catholic Church IS NOT God’s church! It’s an apostate church headed by Satan and his demons. Remember that a church is always described as a woman in the bible. Revelation 17 describes a harlot woman who is the mother of abominations on the earth. Read it carefully…It describes this false church very well.

I mean really…. Doesn’t just knowing that Sunday worship was instituted by the most filthy -hemorrhoid on the earths @$$ hole- of an institution ever to come into existence make you think twice about Sunday observance? Like seriously?!? Are people really that forgetful about what this dirty ‘system’ has done to humanity?! I feel dirty and filthy from all the years of Sunday observance. I feel like I need to de-tox myself. And yes I was an atheist but I was raised in a conservative Christian home.

But I do not believe that those who do not have knowledge will be punished for not keeping something they did not even know needed to be kept. However, I think that we will all come to the knowledge that it is indeed the real mark of the beast so there will be no excuse when all is said and done. Those of us who do know will have to deal with the consequences because we knew better and yet we chose to ‘compromise’ for the here and now. It’s just like taking the red pill….there is no turning back. We cannot unlearn what we already know to be proven as truth even if it goes against our ‘cherished ‘traditions of men'. HOWEVER, I believe that there are exceptions to this rule. If working on the Sabbath involves acts of selflessness, then that is reason enough to bend this rule IMHO because Jesus did this and we are to follow his example.

Now about that RFID chip….. I will NOT take it no matter what. I do not believe that it is the mark of the beast but like Andrea said …It can’t be good for any of us no matter what we are told or what we choose to believe. IMHO…all of those supposed 666 connections were placed there strategically on purpose so that we can be distracted from the real Mark of the Beast. The Jesuits have been controlling the USA since 1900. So take it from there. If you do not know what a Jesuit is by now…look it up yo.

Changing the Sabbath to Sunday worship is a testament to the authority of the Beast. The mark of the beast is NOT going to be solely a secular affair. It’s going to be religious in nature.  The Latin title given to the pope adds up to 666 in the Roman numeric system. Here is a great site that breaks this down >> You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login

Most naysayers will say that what I just said above is a ‘coincidence’ but I do not believe in coincidences and never will. Not after all of the stuff I’ve been though in this hoax. Say what you will but I will not change my opinion about the MOB unless overwhelming biblical evidence causes me to do so.

Ibelievinmj: Right on. I agree with you in that we must pray for God’s kingdom to come on earth as it is in heaven.

Paula-c: Thanks for that link! I’m definitely gonna check it out!...oh God..I’m so behind in my reading! I just reached my post that I posted on page 14. LOL

On a lighter note: You all are making such awesome posts! I want to respond to all of them but I’m soooo behind in my reading in this thread. LOL I really appreciate all of the insight and opinions being shared on here! It’s been such an amazing experience reading everyone’s input! <3

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21

« on: January 30, 2012, 05:14:49 AM »

I am actually far from reading all of the posts. I just started on page 8 where I left off but I saw some posts that really got my attention and I felt compelled to respond and make a reference to them. I will keep reading but I have a lot to catch up on.

The 'thing' with Ron that I think is really 'tripping' me up/out...is that he just so happened to find everything he went looking for.  Stuff that people had searched forever for...and then this guy shows up...always at the right time, right place...and BAM  :lol: there it is.  Either he was truly led by God and had His help in locating these artifacts....or he's a scammer..

just to play devils advocate and no pun intended here, but just want to point out that evil side can make man accomplish, discover and achieve feats too (as per what we have all read in the bible) - ...

here are some examples, to refresh our memories:

-magic practicing priests in pharaohs time were able to duplicate some of gods miracles
-satan used a snake to talk to eve
-star that guided astrologers to baby jesus - stopped by herod first (the person out to kill baby jesus) and (unsure if i should open this can of worms)
-people under demonic influence can heal the sick
-some who practice satanism can fortell the future.

satan uses supernatural schemes and tactics to overcome his victim. he is a supernatural being with great power to deceive (Job 1:7)

the bible also indicates the antichrist and false prophet will also perform miracles. and the bible also speaks about counterfit signs and wonders...

revelation16:13-14  And I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs leap from the mouth of the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet. These miracle-working demons caused all the rulers of the world to gather for battle against the Lord on that great judgment day of God Almighty.

another interesting scripture is where Paul also wrote in the letter to the Corinthians that the miraculous gifts of God’s holy spirit would end. He said: “Whether there are gifts of prophesying, they will be done away with; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will be done away with.”—1 Corinthians 13:8

powers, knowlege of god (one on one) and miracles ceased. meaning that those who continue to do such things or posess such gifts MAY be doing so NOT under the influence of god but the influence of evil, WITH THE motive of distracting people away from god - or with out motive as they could be being used by the devil (as per bible)

does someone being 'led by god' as in this case constitue a 'miracle' or 'prophecying' or 'knowledge' - hmm, dont know. dont have the answer... just saying and putting it out there. interesting question for those that believe in god and read the bible... (incl me)

please note I AM NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS THE CASE, in this particular instance...

however for those who are 'god believers / bible readers - really the two possible scenarious in this situation that have been posted in this thread, being "chosen/sent/directed/influenced by god" or "scammer/fraud/faker" are not absolute, as there is a third possible explanation.

again, not saying i believe this IS the reason, just saying that if we credit the bible for what it says, we have to do so in this instance also and the third explanation is just as plausible as any other.

not trying to be contrary or cause debate, but just thought it would be food for thought... by the way - I HAVE no opinion of this particular situation we are looking at (not yet anyway, thats why i am on the sideline til i understand it better and before i can not only choose but understand what i choose to beleive)



any opinions or civil comments regarding the notion of my post?

True about false prophets, but I do have comments on what you quoted.

"-people under demonic influence can heal the sick"

Not true. Only God can truly heal, or those appointed by Him (like the disciples). Satan only destroys. Do you have scriptural reference for this statement?

"-some who practice satanism can fortell the future."

Same for this: do you have scriptural reference?

"satan uses supernatural schemes and tactics to overcome his victim. he is a supernatural being with great power to deceive (Job 1:7)"

He is already doing that for hundreds of years. People throwing away God's Holy Sabbath as if it's not important and worshipping Sunday and 'strange gods'. The catholic church is the worst, but there are flaws in every denomination. Some examples:

"For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven."
Matthew 5:17-19

This verse CLEARLY states that ALL ten commandments should be kept, even the ones that might seem unimportant to people, till heaven and earth pass. We all know THAT didn't happen yet, lol. Yet the catholics are very much breaking a lot of them:

"Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth. Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments."

So the catholics do this and break the second commandment:








And they worship this:







But some probably aren't even aware, because the catholic church is trying to get rid of the second commandment: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login


Oh and they worship this too, which in my opinion is breaking the first commandment as well, since the papacy claims it can play God, forgive sins, change God's Holy Laws etc:




Then they work on Saturday or mown the lawn, and worship SUNday, breaking the fourth commandment.



Oh and for teaching false doctrine they break of course also the ninth commandment. Many are also breaking the 7th and the 10th, but I shall not go into that. So Satan is doing a VERY good job deceiving MILLIONS of catholics already.

The Jehova's Witnesses are doing a better job, but they somewhere forgot about the fourth commandment, because to them any day can be holy. Not true, only the Sabbath (seventh day) is holy, not just every day, or no day at all. By going door to door, teaching this (and more) false doctrines, they are also breaking the ninth.

The Jews seem have them all ten in order, but they have a little problem: they don't accept Jesus as their saviour which also makes them break the ninth every time they teach some one their religious beliefs.

I could go on and on, but you get my point. Satan IS already deceiving for hundreds or even thousands of years (Adam/Eve/Apple anyone?).

"the bible also indicates the antichrist and false prophet will also perform miracles. and the bible also speaks about counterfit signs and wonders...

revelation16:13-14  And I saw three evil spirits that looked like frogs leap from the mouth of the dragon, the beast, and the false prophet. These miracle-working demons caused all the rulers of the world to gather for battle against the Lord on that great judgment day of God Almighty."

This verse refers to the beasts from Revelation 13 (5th and 6th beasts) and Revelation 17 (8th beast, which is the same as the 5th):

"And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy. And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority." (Revelation 13:1-2)


"And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon [FALSE PROPHET]. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him [IMAGE OF FORMER BEAST], and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed." (Revelation 13:11-12)


"So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns. And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication: And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration. And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns. The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is." (Revelation 17:3-6)


So the false prophet mentioned in the verse you qouted from Revelation 16, is actually a beast (world power, USA), the sixth one that is the image of the fifth/eight beast (Vatican). Ron was not a world power, far from it. He might have been an American, but if he would have been a false prophet for the image of the beasts, we all would have know him and his discoveries. But hardly anyone does: he is ridiculed and attacked and his discoveries are mocked and done away with. Also, the false prophet in Revelation 16 deceives people during the plagues, AFTER the mark of the beast. Thus this verse can in no way refer to Ron Wyatt. Plus I agree with jono about 1 John 4:2.

"another interesting scripture is where Paul also wrote in the letter to the Corinthians that the miraculous gifts of God’s holy spirit would end. He said: “Whether there are gifts of prophesying, they will be done away with; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will be done away with.”—1 Corinthians 13:8

powers, knowlege of god (one on one) and miracles ceased. meaning that those who continue to do such things or posess such gifts MAY be doing so NOT under the influence of god but the influence of evil, WITH THE motive of distracting people away from god - or with out motive as they could be being used by the devil (as per bible)

does someone being 'led by god' as in this case constitue a 'miracle' or 'prophecying' or 'knowledge' - hmm, dont know. dont have the answer... just saying and putting it out there. interesting question for those that believe in god and read the bible... (incl me)"

Paul wrote this nearly 2000 years ago and he is talking about the time after Christ until the end of the 1335 days of Daniel 12. There will be no more miracles, no more prophets, no more scriptural knowledge (because Satan is doing his best to deceive the whole world):

"But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book [NO UNDERSTANDING], even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased [KNOWLEDGE WILL RETURN]. Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river. And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders [WHEN WILL THERE BE UNDERSTANDING OF THIS PROPHECY]? And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half [3.5 YEARS ARE 1260 DAYS, WHICH IN BIBLE PROPHECY MEANS 1260 YEARS, BUT NO BEGINNING OR END IS GIVEN] ; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished. And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up [STARTING POINT GIVEN (PAPACY), SAME ENDING POINT], there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days. Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days [BECAUSE THESE 'WONDERS' WIL END THEN]."
Daniel 12:8-13

Those who did the math on Daniel know that these 1335 years are passed already about 150+ years ago. Why are those blessed who wait? Because that is when understanding of the scriptures returned; the book of Daniel was no longer sealed. And what happens at the time of the end: knowledge shall INCREASE so that the truth can prevail. So actually that verse of Paul you quoted verifies Ron and his discoveries even more. Paul was referring to the years BEFORE the end of the time prophecy in Daniel.

Souza: Great post about the Roman Catholic Church! I’m glad that people are finally discussing this subject. When I started my video series, I was not sure how people would take it. Since you have quoted from the book of Revelation and mentioned the ‘Whore of Babylon’ , I would like to post the first 3 episodes of my series dealing with Michael and his encoded message about this subject. I am definitely going to post my series on the new forum MichaelsArmyofLove. I would like to start a discussion about it on that other forum now that I am seeing more of us open up our minds to this information. But for now, here are the first 3 episodes of my series:

Important Note!
These videos may be blocked in some countries due to copyright issues. If you cannot see the episodes because they are blocked in your country, go to hidemyass.com and paste these links in the box and click ‘hide my ass’>>>>>>

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Episode 1
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCs-Y1SkI-Q [/youtube]

Episode 2
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pt0A7vKMuw8[/youtube]

Episode 3
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kw_Qm14CPdg[/youtube]

And Thanks again Souza for posting that info about the Sabbath. Now as for the seventh day, I have had a really hard time with my family on this one but I’m working on it. We were brought up to keep Sunday, the false Sabbath. I have been showing them the biblical proof along with a lot of the information that you posted about the Sabbath.

For those of you having issues with this particular subject:

The 10 Commandments are 10 Commandments! Nothing has changed. They are Gods laws and He is adamant that we follow them. Keeping His commandments was not meant to be easy or convenient. The choice is yours to follow them of not to follow them. But there is no in-between. There is no gray. It is either black or white. That sounds harsh but it’s the truth. God does not want us to be ‘lukewarm’! He will surely spit us out if we are! 

The Mark of the Beast LAW: WOAH! Thank you for posting this info Im_convincedmjalive!! That’s the info I was wondering about when I posted on the other forum asking TS to clarify. The mark of the beast IS NOT A RFID Chip!!!! It’s Sunday worship! All that BS circulating about that RFID Chip being the mark of the beast is propaganda that has been spread by the Jesuits.

And BTW...The belief that 'Sunday worship' is the mark of the beast is NOT a belief exclusively held by the SDA. There are non-SDAs that believe this to be the mark as well but I will not get in to that. My post is already long enough as it is. I'll let you all do your own research on the matter if you care enough to do so.


Here are the links that Im_convincedmjalive gave us again just so that people can check them out if they haven’t:
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All of you are making amazing posts and I will continue to read on until I can catch up. I’m just really enjoying this journey. It’s been amazing! I thank God for this everyday!

I send LOVE to all of you! <3

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21

« on: January 21, 2012, 11:10:10 PM »

TS, TS_Comments, Souza, and all my fellow board members... thank you all for your contributions.  There is a lot of reading and studying to do!  Once done, I will contribute in whatever way I can. 

Regardless of how this information came to us, regardless of what agendas people believe the others have, just remember you control you. Read, study, pray to God for discernment/hope you can discern (depending on your beliefs), have what you learn transform your life.

I believe we all need to do our study, not only to be able to distinguish real from fake ark of the covenant, but also real from fake MJs, doctrines, information via media, etc.  The illusions run deep everyone and we need to learn to discern, in many many areas.

Remember even the most elect will be deceived!  That means those with evil agendas will not appear to have evil agendas.  (I am not implying at all that TS is appearing to be good but really attempting to deceive). This goes beyond TS and this board. 

I pray for all of us that we will have discernment in these end times (which I do wholeheartedly believe are here).

God bless you all.... off to read!

That was a fantastic post Wendy! Discernment is PARAMOUNT in these last days!


BeTheChange: Thanks for the post and video! ...VERY true!


I'm definitely gonna read the info that TS provided and I'll post again to share my views on the material. 

I think that we are headed in a very interesting direction! This is actually quite exciting!!!


TheRunningGirl: Great post!! It's nice to see you again!

SimPattyK: Thanks for the info on the #24!! I love that pic with Elvis wearing the calendar! When I was in high school, I was a part of the mariachi group and all of the gold metal decorations on our uniforms were Mayan calendars just like the one Elvis is wearing. *sigh* I miss playing in the group. lol


Bec: I liked the levels too. It was fun and challenging. But hey, I'm open to new challenges. This one is no exception. ^_^


Souza: That was a very good post! I agree with you. If people want to leave then they should. It would be in everyone’s best interest.

>>> They won't waste their time posting and we won't waste our time reading their abhorrent posts. << If that offended anyone, then own it!

But like I said in the other redirect thread, "I think it's time for us to shed some dead skin.” XDDDDDD


PS: Fore those who reject the Bible and its message about EOW… It would probably be a good idea to listen to Michael’s lyrics from “Shout” just to get an idea as to how he feels about this subject.


“…Masses of minds shrouded with clouded vision
Deceptions and indecisions
No faith of religion
How we’re living
The clock is ticking
The end is coming
There will be no warning…”

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 7

« on: January 13, 2012, 03:20:07 AM »

Australian MJ Believer: I’m glad that you enjoyed the post. Lol I will try to post more but I get so frustrated with all the ranting. I will NEVER leave this forum though. I always read more than I post. I send you LOVE and LIGHT! <3

RK: Thank you so much for saying that. I agree with you. Many of us value our time and it’s very precious to us. And I’ll go ahead and quote part of my last post (as guilty as I feel about posting it…but there are some things that just have to be said…..AGAIN):

What I fail to understand is this>>>  If people feel like they are being played, WTF are they still hanging around here for? I’m sorry for saying something so vulgar and I know I never say anything about this but…damn! Why do we always have to keep spinning our wheels and going back to the same damn shit OVER AND OVER again by constantly reiterating what has already been proven!? WTF!!!! If you don’t believe, you don’t belong!!! That’s the bottom line! And if people want to bitch about these things, then they should make another thread and keep that stuff off of the redirect threads. I don’t want to read rants and debates concerning whether TS and FRONT are legit or not. (edit)>>OR DEBATING ABOUT ANYTHING ELSE!(end of edit) It’s a distraction and a BIG waste of time! I want to read interesting research and stuff that has to do with the message and redirects damn it!!!!!

Souza: I really do appreciate all that you do. I would imagine that it’s tough to have to put up with all of the BS that flies around here. It’s really sad that we all have to deal with this. I have NEVER felt restricted here at all, even when I don’t agree with some of the things that are being discussed. I have an open mind though and I am willing to entertain EVERY possibility without accepting it as truth. But I agree with you. Attitude plays a really big role in how opinions are received.  If people state their opinion arrogantly or discourteously, there is bound to be some backlash, and this should not come as a surprise. 

MJonmind: LOL!!! Talk about $#!+ stirring! That picture is priceless! Thanks for posting it! You made my night!

As for the topic:

It would be very important to remember that the Israelites were going in circles for 40 years because of their murmuring and unwillingness to follow God’s laws! Joshua was the one that led them to the Promised Land, not Moses. And they didn’t get there until ALL of the unbelievers died off.  The entire generation, (with the exception of two <Joshua and Caleb>) that was delivered from Egypt expired before they could reach the Promised Land.

I think it’s time for us to shed some dead skin…LOL

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 7

« on: January 09, 2012, 05:04:48 AM »

MJonmind: Thanks for that very interesting post on the paralells!

I would also like to do more digging concerning Moses and the Exodus. This story has always fascinated me since childhood. I was raised in a conservative Christian home but as I got older, I began to question so many things that didn’t make sense at all. The Bible contradicts itself on many occasions. But I think that this has to do with the fact that it was written by men…I mean humans can’t get stuff right all the time. But that’s where faith comes in.

So, I totally feel you bec. I was an atheist for quite some time and I had pretty legitimate reasons to be.

I agree in that one of the main parts of this hoax is to understand the truth in HISTORY AND RELIGION.  To fully grasp the level of manipulation that has been done in regards to religion in order to control and enslave humanity throughout history. The story of Moses is very important and I believe that it holds the key to understanding many things not only in this hoax but also in world events. 

The Ten Commandments are God’s laws. But man has toyed with them over the years. Most notably the 2 very important laws that God has referenced on several occasions>>>>  1. Keeping the Sabbath holy. Changing the Sabbath (Saturday) to Sunday is breaking this law: The Roman Catholic Church did this very thing and they killed people who refused to break God’s law. If you don’t believe me, look it up yo… and 2. Venerating and worshiping idols: Most of Christendom engages in this. Praying to the saints and Mary is no exception. These individuals are to be respected but never worshiped. BTW: Jesus was NOT born on Christmas. The bible does NOT specify a date in which Jesus was born. Dec 25th is a pagan holiday… Again LOOK it up if you care. I hope I didn’t bust anyone’s bubble because this info most certainly busted mine. *sigh* But I agree with Michael in that ‘it should be Christmas everyday.’ We should love each other and be giving everyday of the year. I have a tree up in my room and I keep it up all year long. It’s funny how Michael had Christmas décor up in his house all year long. I didn’t even know this and I do the same thing. lol

There is a difference between ‘religion’ and ‘relationship’.  God wants us to have a relationship with him through Jesus Christ. It’s really that simple. And it is OUR choice to take Him up on that offer.

Lilwendy: I loved your reference to ‘Tradition’ vs the Bible. Thank you so much for posting that! That stood out to me as well and it’s wonderful to see that you expressed what I personally feel. And YES! God does work in mysterious ways. I have actually been looking into this particular biblical story recently and I had no idea that the redirects would pertain to the exact same subject! It’s so awesome!!!

The Bible is VERY important to Michael so it’s imperative that people accept this fact and deal with it once and for all.  As someone said, there is much to be learned here regardless of faith or lack thereof.

As for the relationship between TS, Front, Back, etc… I’m not really worried about that at this point. As a matter of fact, I have never really worried about it. There are plenty of reasons to trust in them and a few of you have stated some of them. The truth will prevail when all of this is over. I agree with you Andrea. I also do not think that they would even care to ‘play’ with us (as few as we are). What would be the point?

im_convincedmjalive : I know exactly what you meant by your post about the haters that rant about TS Front or others being fake. And that brings me to this.
 
Oh God…Please forgive me for what I am about to say…X_x PLEASE DO NOT TAKE OFFENCE TO WHAT I AM ABOUT TO SAY BELOW (and if you do, then this probably applies to you):

What I fail to understand is this>>>  If people feel like they are being played, WTF are they still hanging around here for? I’m sorry for saying something so vulgar and I know I never say anything about this but…damn! Why do we always have to keep spinning our wheels and going back to the same damn shit OVER AND OVER again by constantly reiterating what has already been proven!? WTF!!!! If you don’t believe, you don’t belong!!! That’s the bottom line! And if people want to bitch about these things, then they should make another thread and keep that stuff off of the redirect threads. I don’t want to read rants and debates concerning whether TS and FRONT are legit or not. It’s a distraction and a BIG waste of time! I want to read interesting research and stuff that has to do with the message and redirects damn it!!!!!

I'm VERY sorry if this offended anyone but this is how I feel when I read through the redirect threads.


*goes to corner and prays for forgiveness*

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI December 21

« on: December 27, 2011, 03:01:54 AM »

I have spoken quite a bit about the 2012 agenda in the BACK thread, and have thought about this for some time. If you've noticed TS has taken the time to debunk every theory, except the "second coming" ones; maybe for a reason. We can't ignore this re-direct and all of the obvious connections to Jesus made by BACK, Front, TS and even MJ himself.

 The alleged agenda in 2012 is supposed to include alien deception and an alleged "second coming" or "masonic christ" many believe to be Prince William, but Michael actually sounds more suitable. This "second coming" might be used to help usher in a one world religion and new world order.

 Looking at all of the "hoax numerology", the numbers used throughout are important occultic numbers, for example: 111-333-666-777-999 with the 911 call on 12:21 (EOW/Dec.21) being the probable date of MJ's return. Add this to the upside down pyramid which isn't actually against the Illuminati, but a symbol they actually use in the occult; both the upside down pyramid and the upright. Also, the clues Dontwalkaway mentions: white rabbit, rainbows, yellow brick road, all of which I know someone talked on the forum about being important symbols to the Illuminati aswell. Given all of this, the fact that a 12 yr old can figure out MJ's alive, how could The Illuminati not know? Exposing them seems like a fanciful idea to me, especially since they're the most powerful people in the world and their own numerology techniques were used in planning this hoax. Really think about how "exposing them" would actually happen; can it?

 TS debunked the "murder theory", but didn't debunk "The Illuminati planned the hoax" theory.

 

Exactly emulik. The Bible speaks of a false second coming or person who will be referred to as being "Christ-like" and it will be deceptive; which is why I say for a believer in The Bible, it isn't a good thing. That's also why I'm not understanding some people who use The Bible to say a second coming is a good thing. But that's why it's subjective depending on ones beliefs.
 

@Suzy7
Good point, I think.

And thanks for the Earthenigma.wordpress.com link.  Very interesting reading.  The particular post that you requested from the site is quoted below (my apologies if it's been posted before).

(I underlined a couple of paragraphs in the quote that I found interesting, but this post is not an expression of my total agreement or disagreement with what's said in the quote as a whole, as I'm not well-versed on the Illuminati and its alleged agenda.  However, JMO:  In order for events to manifest in the physical world they must first be manifested [or manipulated] into the collective mindset as a form of belief.  That said, a question:  Are our worldly and sacred beliefs capable of being manipulated into other fantastic beliefs [for example, MJ being the Second-coming, and so on] to the point that our attention becomes so distracted that we no longer think objectively or, in other words, that we no longer think for ourSelves?  Perhaps awareness of this sort of manipulation in general is the primary key--the particular shift in consciousness--that is necessary to maintain freedom of mind and, in turn, physical freedom.  And of course, this is not said to offend anyone's beliefs.)

Will Michael Jackson Return in 2012?
Posted in conspiracy, Government Lies, Illuminati, Michael Jackson with tags 2012, Age of Aquarius, alive, calendar, conspiracy, elvis, Gospel, History, Illuminati, Jacko, Jason Pfeiffer, Jesus, JFK, mayans, Michael Jackson, Religion, Tabloid Junkie, They Don't Care about Us, tupac on August 23, 2009 by earthenigma

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Michael Jackson will be back at 11:11 on December 21, 2012

The Gospel of Michael Jackson will be the death of Jesus

Everyone who has researched 2012 is expecting the world to end, to plummet to new lows, for earthquakes to shake and wars to rage. Others think that enlightenment will descend upon us like the soft landing of a beautiful white dove, for our minds to expand, to reach new levels of consciousness…
What I can say for sure is that the Illuminati will undoubtedly do something to fulfill the prediction. They probably will orchestrate the next world war, they probably will cause extreme weather and earthquakes with the help of HAARP but I think the Illuminati will use their most useful tool to unite the world into a New World Order – Michael Jackson.
The establishment wants you to think MJ is dead – they put a lot of work into this lie but Michael Jackson is alive. If you think Dave Dave wasn’t Michael Jackson on Larry King Live – you’ve got a screw loose. If you think Michael Jackson wasn’t the blonde woman at his tribute show, holding Chris Tucker’s hand, you also have a screw loose.
Michael Jackson’s return is imminent and I urge you to watch the media intently over the next 18 months, because the media will prepare you for his ‘second coming.’
His re-emergence won’t be for the good of the world though – that’s my worry. MJ has so many adoring fans across the globe already, and I suspect that the media will work to change the perception of the many MJ-haters so they all sympathise with him, so they all love him too. It may come to light that he was set up for the so-called child molestation accusations and some illuminati stooge will take the fall for this. It will come to light that his skin condition was due to someone’s foul-play. We will all come to sympathise with him, we will all hate ourselves for doubting him and we will all love him while thinking he is dead.
And then the greatest show on earth will begin. The most ground-breaking CGI spectacle of all time will get the green light. It really will be like ‘the second coming.’
If Michael Jackson is indeed alive, he is without doubt the most powerful tool at the illuminati’s disposal and he will be used to full effect.
No media-fronting superstar has ever gained his level of popularity and exposure – never – and for that reason, the illuminati will use him for all his worth. He really is bigger than Jesus – you saw the world’s reaction when he died. Nobody in such a high profile position can fake their own death without the illuminati establishment knowing about it – absolutely no chance! He appeared as Dave Dave on Larry King so the establishment could see whether or not he had the ability to fool the world – he succeeded. It was also a way to play with the people of the earth. The Illuminati like playing games – remember that – that is why the illuminati symbolism appears in every mainstream music video.
He died in 2009, he will re-emerge in 2012 after 3 years of intense MK-Ultra mind control, 3 years of rehearsals in a secret location for his comeback ‘show.’ The world loves him, but we know what the Illuminati are like. They will use this love and use it to create fear, use it to further their agenda – to complete their agenda in fact, and create the one world, unified government and unified religion.
This brings us to what the Illuminati has used Michael Jackson for all along. They want to unify the world with a new world religion – with MJ as the new Christ and savior.
We are watching and living through the gospel of Michael Jackson. The story will be written that he died and three years later he rose from the dead to ‘save the world.’ He is the new god-head. Like Jesus he had a life of trials and tribulations. Michael was falsely hated and accused (like Jesus) and lived to tell the tale. He taught about love and has many parables, but nobody listened (like Jesus). He was persecuted. He died because somebody betrayed him (his doctor-bloke) and three years later (like Jesus’ three days) he rose from the dead to ‘heal the world.’ The Jesus Gospel marked the Age of Pisces and the Michael Gospel will mark the dawning of the Age of Aquarius. He will probably arrive with the music of ‘Heal the World.’
By December 21, 2012, I imagine the world’s population will be greatly diminished. World Wars, numerous Fukushima’s and major natural disasters will leave humanity turning their back on faith. We will all want something, someone, to help us, to save us and then the illuminati will drop a bomb bigger than Hiroshima. They will drop MJ from the clouds. Everyone will stop and watch the CGI spectacle in awe. Weapons will fall from hands, the earth will stop trembling and Michael will unify the world in love – false love…
The illuminati know we are waking up and are beginning to see through their lies so when Michael returns – be wary, be afraid and question whatever the news networks tell us is ‘truth.’ It won’t be a miracle that he returned from the dead because he didn’t even die… I imagine they will say he ‘did die’ but he didn’t – we know that.
Many of you will be OVER THE MOON when Michael returns but I strongly believe he will be USED to dupe YOU into a new way of thinking. Don’t trust it. EarthEnigma told you now what is going to happen. If I am right (a big IF), I don’t want to say ‘I told you so.’
Michael Jackson will bring about the end to the world’s problems when he returns – but this is what the illuminati are planning. He will bring about a new spiritual era, for he will fulfill the Mayan prophesy, he will be here to save us, but it will all be part of a larger plot, a plan by the elite to gain total control over your lives.

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The King of Pop, Michael Jackson, died on June 25, 2009. He was one of the most commercially successful singers of all time but we all know he had his fair share of problems. His death is now accepted although there is the conspiracy theory that the man is still alive.


Michael Jackson was not a Bad man.
I believed he was dead and I genuinely felt sad about it as I was a huge fan of his music growing up. Last week however, my mind changed and I now believe the man could be alive.
After reading Telegraph.co.uk last week I was startled by this article: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login. It wasn’t the fact that Michael Jackson had a homosexual relationship as people can do as they please; it was the comments made by his lover. The man in question is called Jason Pfeiffer, a clinic worker who claimed he and Michael Jackson were soul mates. He works at the offices of Jackson’s dermatologist, Dr. Arnold Klein and he and the pop icon had been in regular contact until he died, aged 50, following a cardiac arrest.
Mr. Pfeiffer claims that Jackson “completely changed” in the last two weeks of his life. He said that Jackson was “saying goodbyes the week before passing. Everyone was creeped out by it.” This alone is enough for conspiracy theorists to assume he may be alive but it was these comments that did it for me: “Michael got very retrospective in the last few weeks, he was talking about God and the Mayan calendar and the year 2012 – which is when the Mayan calendar ends.”
The implications of this comment were staggering for me. 2012 and the Mayan calendar are subjects that have consumed so many people in recent years. It has driven many to write books, change their belief system and look within for spiritual salvation so they are prepared for the spiritual awakening of 2012. I personally have been consumed by the subject and maybe Michael Jackson believed that the people of the world would all wake up and the evil that infiltrates the governments today, that controls the banks, big businesses and media would be destroyed as the people would not be as stupid as they are now. Maybe he believed the Mayans and believed that the spiritual awakening would finally ‘Heal the World.’
There is a lot of hype around the Mayan end date and many websites and books claim to have the answer and if Michael Jackson was so hooked on the subject, maybe, just maybe, he faked his own death so that he could return on December 21, 2012 when the world would become enlightened so that he could finally stop being the victim of the Illuminati-controlled corporate media lies.
I believe he wanted to get away from this evil, the same evil that has controlled him throughout his entire music career. Listen to the song ‘They Don’t Care About us’ from History and you will hear his views on those powerful media moguls that have controlled him. Michael Jackson was a supremely intelligent man but as the great Immortal Technique has said, if you’re signed to a major label, the label will ultimately tell you what to sing. You have no freedom. Michael was a man who wanted to sing the songs he wanted to sing, but he wasn’t allowed. He was warned by the ‘big men’ to stay in line by being falsely accused of child molestation more than once and I believe they also gave him skin disease to prove they were not to be messed with. In the end, the media wrecked his career because like Tupac (who was falsely accused of rape), Bob Marley and Elvis, he could not be controlled anymore. If such an inspirational man, who has a power over literally millions of fans, turns away from the big men upstairs and begins to highlight their evil, like Elvis, Tupac and JFK, he will inevitably be removed and will be murdered, unless they can scare the singer into submission.
Therefore, I believe Michael Jackson faked his own death as he felt he could not be himself anymore. He wished to return in 2012 when the Mayan inscriptions say the world will be a different place and love will encompass the globe. This is the only society a person like him, who has been persecuted by the media for 40 years, can live in and I believe he is placing his trust in the Mayans as he waits for his time to come back into the spotlight.
If we are all awoken from our slumber in 2012 as the Mayans said, if we all finally see the evil conducted by the corrupt governments and the Illuminati and if we rebel and fight back against that evil, then the world will be a better place and maybe Michael Jackson will return so that he can be himself and tell us all the true story of his life.
Jackson was so influential that he was never allowed to be himself. His reputation was tarnished on more than one occasion but the man still kept his fans. The corporate media spread its lies about him but if any of us have brains we should never believe the media. Michael Jackson was not a pedophile, he was not ‘Wacko Jacko;’ he was a normal man who happened to be an amazing singer, dancer and performer. The media tried to tarnish his reputation throughout his life as he became bigger than Jesus, and after songs such as ‘They don’t care about us’ and ‘Tabloid Junkie’ on the album History, they tried even harder to discredit him, but they failed.

Thank you both for posting all of this!

I think this was a VERY interesting read! I’m surprised that these postings did not spark a lengthy discussion. This theory is so logical that it’s scary. lol

But this whole theory is based on this >>

“Nobody in such a high profile position can fake their own death without the illuminati establishment knowing about it – absolutely no chance!”

The above statement is just an assumption. And I beg to differ.

I do think that it was possible for Michael to get away from the ‘System’ without its knowledge. God is protecting Michael and God is on his side. So YES someone like Michael can get away from the ‘System’ successfully with the protection of Jehovah God. God will even ‘force’ the wicked to do His bidding. This can explain all of the ‘high powered’ individuals that were necessary to pull this elaborate hoax off.

“TS debunked the "murder theory", but didn't debunk "The Illuminati planned the hoax" theory.”

Maybe because there is a ‘certain’ amount of truth to the theory? I’m very open to all possibilities.

Even if this is the agenda, Michael has become aware of it but has played along with the ‘System’. He is going along with the ‘plan’ and is utilizing all of the resources the ‘System’ has to offer. When the time comes, he will betray the ‘System’.  He has purposefully left us clues to debunk the idea that he was murdered. Therefore, it cannot be considered a ‘miraculous’ resurrection when he comes back because he never died in the first place.

If Michael is serving the system as this person claims to believe, then he would not have left clues for us to decipher because as we all know, the ‘System’ leaves no loose ends when it comes to such an enormous agenda. His ‘death’ would have been so convincing that not even the most savvy of investigators would have seen any inconsistencies… and obvious ones at that.

Either way, I’m also gonna stay on this MJ train all the way till the end! If loving MJ is ‘wrong’ I don’t wanna be ‘right’. That’s how strongly I feel about this. I know we are on this journey together for a good reason.

I hope that TS addresses this theory soon though. It would be interesting to see what he has to say.
 
PS: Oh yeah… And for all of you guys that are debating the ‘HELL’ issue, here is an interesting video I came across a while back that talks about the origin of the concept of hell.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ah6eu01q8Ng[/youtube]

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI November 11 (11-11-11)

« on: December 19, 2011, 03:29:00 AM »

TS:  Glad to see you back! I figured you were busy with something very important. <3

I agree that this is about raising awareness....but IMO, that is just one step because awareness on its own will not exact the change this world needs at this point in history.  As others have mentioned, people have always been 'aware' to some degree...yet, we carry that awareness with us while we go sell ourselves (labor) daily in order to have enough $ to pay 'them' for our spot on the planet.  Despite our 'awareness'...we can't escape 'them' because they've infiltrated every aspect of our waking lives....from our schools to our governments to our places of worship to our 'entertainment'....and everything in between.

MJ stated in TII that he's doing this to bring 'awareness' and 'awakening' to people. This aspect of the hoax (ARG or whatever) has done just that....we've all become more aware and awake since his 'death', but we are a very small number compared to those out there.  But even so, we still are only aware and awake of a 'system' that we cannot break completely free from on our own (kinda like knowing you are dreaming while in a dream).  That is why I strongly believe that there will be a BAM because without one the 'goal' for all this would not be reached...and I think we know enough about Mike to know that he usually accomplishes everything he sets as a 'goal'.  The entire world needs to wake up...and while the ripples that are and have been created by those of us who are more aware and awake, have and will continue to have a far-reaching impact...the entire world needs a huge 'jolt' in order to wake up from the dream (matrix) that 'they' (TPTB) have created.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOYWsKRONbs&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

With L.O.V.E. always.

That was very nicely said and I agree completely! People need to realize how deep the ‘system’ has infiltrated our lives.

Everyone’s posts have been great!  I enjoyed reading them very much!

Well anyway since people are posting videos (which I watched and enjoyed)  I figured I would post this video sequence that I made recently. I actually posted this on the other redirect thread as well. Enjoy!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP7WAYIG_7s[/youtube]

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI NOVEMBER 30

« on: December 19, 2011, 02:29:57 AM »

Apple, what do you mean? afraid of who?

Miss G I just said he is NOT AFRAID of ANYONE,and that including the SYSTEM or the "CHURCH"!!!!

Hey Applehead!

I agree with you and I’m glad that you enjoyed my video!  I will embed the vid under this so that those who are interested can see what you are referring to:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98FJJMQRISs[/youtube]

I think that the 21st of December would be a perfect date for a redirect or a post from TS. He made a post in the 11-11-11 thread on Dec 13th saying that he was busy with an ‘important project’ and that he would be back in a week from then.
So we will probably not see anything new till then. I say take your time TS! I’m willing to wait it out all the way till the end! <3 Good things come to those who wait! After all, Michael did as us for ‘patience and endurance’ if I recall correctly.


In the meantime, (for those of you who still read this particular thread) here is a video sequence that I made for the end of the video above that applehead is talking about. It’s the last part but I felt that it would be perfect by itself. I hope you guys enjoy it!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KP7WAYIG_7s[/youtube]

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI NOVEMBER 30

« on: December 12, 2011, 04:10:15 AM »

Dontwalkaway:
That’s very interesting! As you have mentioned, he ‘disappears’ in ‘Billie Jean’s’ bed as well.  ‘Dirty Diana’ is an updated name for ‘Billie Jean’. ‘Suzie’ is the most recent name that he has given her. He is referring to the same ‘woman’. They all have the same story too because he refers to all of them as ‘groupies’.

I do believe that this is an important part of the illusion but I agree with curls. Lol It’s more exciting when the ‘how’ is kept a secret. It is much more intriguing that way. I also think that Chris Angel is in the mix as well, although I do not know to what extent. There are a lot of great hoax videos that explore this idea.

Applehead: As for the white sheets, to me, it seems apparent that he has been planning this for a VERY long time! I DO NOT believe that it was something that he decided to do out of the blue. There are way to many technicalities and dimensions to the hoax for it to be something spontaneous. Thanks for posting the pictures! <3

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI NOVEMBER 30

« on: December 09, 2011, 04:17:05 AM »

mjonmind:
I believe that is why Michael has trimmed us down to a small size, like Gideon’s army of 300 against the Midianites, who in the Bible story turned on each other and destroyed each other in their panic.  We are more important to TS than we realize, even as some of us feel TS is important to us staying here, reading and posting. He is reading what we say.

MJonmind: Thanks for you great response! That is a very nice reference and that’s EXACTLY the point I was trying to make. Many will loose faith because of the ‘deception’ but this is by ‘design’.  I don’t want to sound condescending to anyone but the bottom line is this>>> “If you don’t beLIEve, you don’t belong”. It may sound horrible to many who will read this and if it does, I’m very sorry but it’s just that simple. He is DEFINTATELY reading EVERYTHING we post. It’s very nice to know that we can come to a deeper understanding of the message! I appreciate your comment very much! *hugs*

Australian MJ BeLIEver:
“in addition to that, we dont need this place to be free and know truth.... if you are 'thinking for yourself' 'questioning everything' and 'not accepting and gobbling up everything that we are force fed by religion, government, corporation and media, then the job is done (with or without this place) and you are on your way to freedom...”

That was very beautifully said and I agree with you 100%. The ‘System’ is just a huge conglomerate made up of all the things hat you mentioned. As we can see, all of these things play a role in controlling how we live our lives and they keep us from thinking for ourselves.

 

Re: TIAI NOVEMBER 30
« Reply #154 on: Today at 07:01:12 AM »
Whiteknight
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    The ‘System’ will be exposed and will find itself cornered.  All of her ‘schemes and plans’ will be exposed.  The ‘System’ will destroy itself.
     
     This is all a part of the plan and the ‘deception’ plays a crucial role in making this happen.
     
     We will know the truth but in due timing. But a lot of things have to fall into place first.
     
     As for AEG being the bad guys: Like Souza, I do not reject this idea at all but I still believe its WAY more complicated than that.
     
     I’m also very excited today so you guys are not alone. I’m just happy to be on this adventure with everyone! I love you all!! <3
     
     And DON’T forget! We are all here for a reason. This did not affect us the way that it did for nothing. There are NO coincidences!

I believe that is why Michael has trimmed us down to a small size, like Gideon’s army of 300 against the Midianites, who in the Bible story turned on each other and destroyed each other in their panic.  We are more important to TS than we realize, even as some of us feel TS is important to us staying here, reading and posting. He is reading what we say.


Applehead I've always loved the Coroner van video with the others jumping out.
Especially now with TMZ posting the pic about Abraham Lincoln alive--see him jump out.  Next it will be Elvis, then Jesus--well...  Wait--did ALL four hoax their deaths!

Mjonmind I had to go BACK,lol ,because is something we are missing  :? ,is something that disturbs me very much,and I think is about HISTORY,about OUR true HISTORY,from the BEGININGs. It is a very good reason TMZ is takeig us BACK,I can feel it .We are asked to beLIEve ,but why to believe a word,that has the LIE in it?? WHY? In THIS IS IT movie,we had THE FAKE DEATH motive,in MEGAMIND movie we also had THE FAKE DEATH motive,in ILLUSIONIST movie again THE FAKE DEATH motive.Elvis, Tupac and Michael also are suspected that they FAKED they DEATH. I'm sure that during this hoax we saw many fake death in movies but now I don't remember,lol,I'm sorry.
Like I said before,our SISTEM sucks BIG TIME and everything is BACKwards.TMZ put Lincon there with a reason,and I will not think otherwise.7White7Night7 is a member on this forum,and I saw all her VIDEOS.Her last video about Lincon,Murray sentence,justice,the system,religion,and DIRTY DIANA bed,lol it is mind-blowing and I'm almost 100% that the TRUTH is about THIS. To quote her :

" It's about 'THE SYSTEM' that hides behind the guise of RELIGION,a 'SYSTEM' that perverters the truth and conspires against the freedom and spiritual advancement of all humanity "WhiteNight

Michael Jackson Death Hoax Labyrinth: LOVE IS JUSTICE Ep 15
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXPKBthoo-o&feature=g-u[/youtube]

Oh my! I had no idea that TMZ had mentioned Abraham Lincoln up until I read through the thread. LOL! That’s pretty amazing! But of course I do not see every little thing as a clue but everything happens for a reason. it still makes me all the more sure about everything that I have been observing. And YES, HISTORY is so important in all of this.  It’s important that we take heed to its warnings. It’s possible that we may be headed in a direction that many will not be comfortable with because it’s quite controversial. Thank you for your post! I send much love to you! <3

Now about TS.

I’m sure he has his reasons for the delay or perhaps this is not a delay at all. Commitment and responsibilities aside, I think that we are forgetting that TS is human. I mean no insult to anyone when I say this. I’m just not worried at all. I’m simply excited about this great adventure. ;3

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI NOVEMBER 30

« on: November 30, 2011, 11:14:44 PM »

Hmmm…
Well, I tend to not post much so I kinda feel a bit strange dropping in among you all who are always posting. I read everything though. LOL

Anyway… I do have a few thing s to say on all of this. So first I would like to commend Souza on this increadible post!

Souza – “I think some are turning too much to the right (it's all a movie, MJ is just pranking) and some are turning too much to the left (MJ was in danger every step of the way and had to quickly hoax his death). I will walk in the middle if y'all don't mind. I believe Michael planned this many many MANY years ago. I also believe that the plan advanced in a later stage when the FBI got involved and I also believe there is a fair possibility that the plan changed again in the last stage and that someone in his team was a rat. Because there is indeed no reason for UCLA. It's too much of a risk, too many people involved and besides: it's a hospital, people in danger need to have access to it as quick as possible and with thousands of fans around, that will be harder. So there is a chance that that was added to the script later on, although I must say that I do not see why yet.

I believe Michael did this for many reasons. As an artist: to make the biggest production ever, one of which people will still talk about many many years from now. I also think he wants to expose some very shady figures, and many other lies and BS in our world today. This is why the 'rat in camp MJ' possibility is very plausible. I also think he wants to get back at the public and the media for what was done to him. I also think he wants to warn people for the EOW. Some of the atheists here might not agree with that, merely because they don't believe it themselves, but unfortunately it's not your hoax, it's Michael's hoax and Michael is a God fearing man. He knows his Bible and he can recognize the signs. This is more than just a movie, more than just a prank. It's his life work and whether you like it or not, there are serious elements attached to it. I don't see how Diana Ross being his alleged wife and Omer being his alleged son has anything to do with all this by the way, no offence.”

I agree %100 with your post Souza!

I agree with Souza in that the numerology is PERFECT for a bam. But who knows. I will not be surprised if nothing of great magnitude happens today. But I’m almost sure that something will. (a tweet from the family or something minor of that nature)

I also believe that there is more to ‘the story’. A lot of things have to happen first before Michael comes back.  GinaFelicia, I believe that you are right. The ‘stage’ in definitely not set for a comeback as of yet. It will be but not yet. We still have to ‘simmer’ a bit longer.

Either way I would still welcome a comeback from Michael any day!

With Murray’s ‘guilty’ verdict, this sends a message out to all of the ‘feel good’ doctors out there who place their patients lives in danger for their ‘bottom line’.   >>>>>>>>>“Doctors destroy health…”

Jermaine said that Murray was just a ‘finger’ on a hand. >> Fall guy.

The ‘System’ must be FULLY convinced that Michael is truly dead. This is the only way to lure ‘her’ (the System) into the trap that he has set. It must look as real as possible. This is why the Jackson family makes sure that everything they say be open for dual interpretation (hoax/no hoax).

In the movie ‘The Illusionist’ the Crowned Prince believed that Sophie was really dead. In desperately trying to cover up what he perceived as a crime on his part, he unwittingly left himself and his plan to take over the empire out in the open. In Michael’s case, key individuals MUST be convinced that this is the truth so that they will take action accordingly. The Chief Inspector was not in on Eisenhiem’s hoax but because he was duped into believing the illusion, he was instrumental in notifying the emperor of his own ‘murderous’ son’s plans to dethrone him.   Since the chief inspector had a good reputation and held a key position, he was taken seriously.  Because of this, the prince felt cornered and committed suicide.  Thus eliminating any danger that would have ensued if the prince was alive long enough to know that Sophie was actually alive. Sophie told Eisenheim >>  “As long as we’re alive, he’ll hunt us. And when he finds us, he’ll kill us”.

The ‘System’ will be exposed and will find itself cornered.  All of her ‘schemes and plans’ will be exposed.  The ‘System’ will destroy itself.

This is all a part of the plan and the ‘deception’ plays a crucial role in making this happen.

We will know the truth but in due timing. But a lot of things have to fall into place first.

As for AEG being the bad guys: Like Souza, I do not reject this idea at all but I still believe its WAY more complicated than that.

I’m also very excited today so you guys are not alone. I’m just happy to be on this adventure with everyone! I love you all!! <3

And DON’T forget! We are all here for a reason. This did not affect us the way that it did for nothing. There are NO coincidences!

My faith is strong and it gets stronger everyday so I’m up for the rest of the ride! Lol
 
Well..anyway, Sorry for such a long post.

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Updates & Posts by TS / Re: Recruiting Soldiers for Michael’s Army of L.O.V.E.

« on: November 13, 2011, 03:03:11 AM »

I recall posting in this thread a while back but I’m not sure what happened. It’s like if I got booted off. Lol I know that I do not participate on here daily but I would like to ‘re-enlist’ if that’s even possible.

I have been working on ‘the man in the mirror’ and I’m sure that most will agree that this is probably the post difficult of all. It’s been a long journey and it’s so hard to break old habits. XDDD But I have loved every twist and turn!

I just want to say that it’s so amazing to be able to be a part of this adventure and to interact with everyone here.

Even though I do no post as often as most do, I would like to say that I love every one of you guys.  And that I really hope that we get to meet each other in person. That would be quite a glorious day!

I love you all!

~alma~

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI September 27

« on: November 09, 2011, 02:04:51 AM »

“Look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down. Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information, and religions destroy spirituality.” ~ Michael Ellner

This is quite an amazing quote and I really think that this epitomizes the general reason for the hoax.  As for the technicalities, I’d rather not make any assumptions because I believe that there is more to this than we can ever imagine and all of us have found truth in our own way and we have all brought something of value to the table. But I will say one thing.

If you really think about it, (and trust me, you probably don’t have to lol) the moral degradation of humanity can be attributed to everything being ‘backwards.’

This ‘backwards’ sequence that the world is living by is contrived and has been manufactured by TPTB.
As we all know, this is all part of the plan that TPTB have in order to plunge the world into chaos and disorder. They know that fear (false prophet doomsday BS) and hate (caused by religious, racial and homophobic discord) are the perfect catalysts for this to happen according to their plans.  The ONLY way that we can win this war is with unconditional LOVE. LOVE for our brothers and sisters of humanity regardless of who they are and how they live their lives. It’s our job is to LOVE one another and it’s God’s job to judge.

 I would like to quote one of Michael’s songs titled ‘Jam’ to reiterate this.

“What has come of all the people
Have we lost love of what it’s about

I have to find my peace cuz no one seems to let me be
False prophets cry of doom what are the possibilities…

…The world keeps changing rearranging minds and thoughts
Predictions fly of doom…

…She pray to God to Buddha then she sings a Talmud song
Confusions contradict the self do we know right from wrong.”

Thank you Shining Light for posting the lyrics!:

Now here’s one of my favorite lyrics from ‘Keep the Faith’

“Any road that you take will get you there
If you only try”

Though some may differ, there is no one right way. No one has the complete and ultimate truth. That’s why we have a free will. We must search for our own truth and ‘seek our own salvation.’ Man-made religion cannot do this for us. It dampens our spirituality and it only serves to distance us from each other and most importantly, from God, The Creator. The same principle applies to the hoax investigation. Not one of us has all of the answers. If we did, I don't think we would feel the need to be here.

As for the verdict, I was not too surprised. This is just the beginning. My faith is strong and I am even more confident that Michael is alive. This does not shake my faith at all. But I must say that I was VERY worried about what would have happened outside the courthouse if he had been found ‘not guilty’. My heart was racing while I watched the verdict reading live on TV. (LOL...It was actually my B-Day on 7-11. heh)

I must admit and agree that I found it sad that the fans cheered with such joy after hearing the verdict. If I was an uninformed non-believer, like I’m sure that most of them were, I would not be happy no matter what the verdict was. (Thinking in the uninformed ‘non-hoax’ mindset,) -  It would not bring Michael back and a man who has loved ones as well as children was sent to prison. I think it would be quite a sad scenario either way if one were to look at this with the eyes of an uninformed non-believer. But perhaps it’s just me thinking this way.

But of course I know that this is all a part of the plan and I think we are still in for quite an adventure!

BTW, the posts that you all have been making are amazing! I have been brought to tears!

Mjj4ever777:  I know I don’t post very often but I read your posts as well and I appreciate them very much! I love ya bunches! *hugs*

MJ_ForeverandAlways: That was simply beautiful! I am so moved by your story! God bless you!

Sorry for such a long and late post. o_o; It took me a while to read everything on this thread.

Im_convincedmjalive: Woah! i just noticed your post! I must read it! I could not help but notice very interesting points that you have presented! I will read it later though. I'm a bit sleepy right now. It's 2am here (U.S. central time) @_@

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TIAI ~ 2011 / Re: TIAI September 27

« on: November 04, 2011, 12:44:44 AM »

I have been following the trial but I have not been on here. I’m not having any problems getting on like before. The forum is pretty fast for me. (I just noticed this today) I have not done anything new to my PC so I guess I’ll never know why I was having problems in the first place…

Anyway lol

As I have been keeping up with the trial, I’m just so tickled at the ‘terms’ that have been chosen by both the prosecution and the defense. I’m sorry if this was mentioned before. (I just noticed your post bec lol)I have not read the previous posts before this page but did anyone catch the ‘Man behind the curtain’ comment by the defense attorney during closing arguments? I LOLed at that one. He also said ‘reality TV’ among other things.

As for the verdict, I also think that it’s possible that it may be reached on the 4th of this month. This should be interesting. I mean even if it is not  reached until Monday, that would still be ‘hoxarific’ as it would end up falling on the 7th.

Be the change: I totally agree with you on that one. > “I'll be there....looking like I haven't slept in a few years, but I'll be there.” LOL

This has been (and still is) one hell of an adventure I must say. It really does seem like we are in on a big secret. It’s so exciting! This has really changed my life. It’s hard to explain but I’m sure that all of you understand. I mean that’s why we are here after all isn’t it?

I send love to you all,

~alma~