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« on: October 29, 2011, 04:10:39 AM »
Okay, I will give my take on this 911 call, it might give some people peace of mind.
Here is the complete call:
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I for one don't even understand why someone with an emergency would have to go through two people. Most of the 911 calls come in exactly where they should: the person that can send an ambulance right away. But Alvarez first gets the BHPD. Now notice the difference between the woman from the BHPD and the guy from the LAFD. She only picks up (if she even picked up and didn't call Alvarez herself) with 911 emergency. She does not ask for a location, nor does she ask what the emergency is. She has no clue if she should send the cops or an ambulance, because Alvarez only mentioned 'an emergency' and the address. On top of it all, she is going to explain to Alberto that she is going to put him through with the LAFD. Who cares? He has 'an emergency'! All together, as confirmed by Dona Norris on the stand, this whole conversation lasted 46 seconds. 46 seconds is way too much if a person has a cardiac arrest, but hey, how would she know? She only asked for the address, before explaining what she was going to do, before she finally puts the man through with a 3-digit number. If Alvarez actually needed the cops because there was someone with a gun in the house, the LAFD would have to put him through to the BHPD/LAPD again. So we can safely assume that the woman knew exactly what was going on.
Now there are two scenarios:
1. It is normal in LA that you are put through by the police to the LAFD in an emergency and they called early to make sure the woman of the BHPD could put them through at exactly 12:21. That is not so difficult to plan, since we already established that officials are in on this and this first conversation only confirms that in my opinion.
2. They didn't want to rely on the cellphone (mine isn't always working when I want either) and therefor they decided to call the BHPD first, to make sure the call would be received at 12:21. Because 12:21 IS the time the call came in, according to the records (and Dona Norris confirmed that 12:21:04 was the time the call was actually released) and according to the screen in the ambulance. This is the time the world would hear.
I also doubt if it's really 911 that was called, or that they worked with direct numbers. The guy of the LAFD hangs up the phone, which is against protocol, so maybe he was asked to pick up an internal line during his break. Norris and her 'fictious phone number that was phone company stuff' makes me think that that is a possibility.
Anyways, TS correct me if I'm wrong, there might be a third option, but these are already two points that explain the 12:20:18 and the lack of speed by the BHPD.
Souza the lady did in fact ask for the location at 8 seconds then at 13 seconds after the caller stated the address the lady asked him if it was in LA and he said yes,then directly after that the lady did also ask if he needed the police or paramedics and he stated paramedics...
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« on: June 07, 2011, 12:31:00 AM »
so how long have people been trying to suggest that michael had a drug problem and these people gave out insurance without attending to the details for the kind of money we are talking about. really. michael-jackson/ What I don't understand is how any of us can actually state that Michael never had a drug problem in the past.Who are we to say he didn't?Think about it,if he never had a drug problem then why did Elizabeth Taylor personally fly with him to take him to a rehab center?Sounds like a past drug problem to me IMO.Why would she lie about it,she had absolutely nothing to gain from lying about it and you could tell in the way she always talked about Michael that she loved him very much and he was a very close friend of hers.No matter what we want to believe about what Michael did or didn't do we need to remember that he was a human being and had his own faults just like everyone else...
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« on: May 27, 2011, 01:56:06 AM »
To me a "carer" isnt a maid or an assistant.
I used to be a carer for the social services.. my understanding is a carer is for when people are sick and ill and need help doing things like washing, dressing, etc.
Well then you're jumping to conclusions aren't you.
No. Im explaining what i used to do in my role as a "carer".
No. You're jumping to conclusions. You're assuming the journalist used an accurate title (live-in caregiver quite literally is just that, which is a vague title and can mean a whole laundry list of things from maid to nanny to personal assistant to nurse) and from that you're assuming that KJ is sick and dying. That is the very definition of jumping to conclusions. Just sayin'.
Example: these same journalists say Michael is dead too.
Im actually saying i used to be employed as a carer for social services. That was my job title.. a "carer". I helped people who were sick, ill and infirm to wash and dress and help with their medication.
Im sharing my knowledge... im sorry if that offends you somehow.
I dont know if the journalist has used the correct title or not.. but it would seem odd for them to use a term of "carer" when they are referring to a maid or a PA. They say its in the court documents so i guess we will have to try and see those.
She is nearly 81 - it wouldnt surprise me if she had health issues that she needed help with. Most people this age do. My grandfather lived until his 90's and he had a carer come to his house everyday to help him with things.
Actually you are both right but the statement..." Katherine Jackson turns 81 on May 4, and it was revealed in court documents recently that she has a live-in caregiver."...can be taken 2 different ways,Is the caregiver for KJ or is the caregiver to help with the kids?We don't know because unless someone pulls up the court document for more thorough explanation then like I said it can be taken either way.A Caregiver in my state is mainly for taking care of either the elderly for any of their personal needs or for the disabled.If it were to take care of children then the title is nanny or babysitter,your choice.Caregivers range from "Nursing Assistant Registered" to "Nursing Assistant Certified".Our role is to take care of the individuals personal needs, i.e. dressing,feeding,showering,shopping,dr.s appts,etc but for just that individual not someone else in the household, as in the children.
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« on: May 21, 2011, 01:16:46 AM »
From 6:25 Debbie Rowe explains very well her reasons for having MJ´s kids. Karen is wrong when talking about "selling kids".
[youtube:u3zfhv66]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpp-I9-mRbw&feature=related[/youtube:u3zfhv66] I saw another video where Debbie did an interview but I cant remember if it had been taped before or after Michaels death.It was with Geraldo I think and Debbie had mentioned that both children were Michaels and concieved in the normal way.She also mentioned when she had decided she had had enough with the media when she couldnt even go grocery shopping anymore.Does anyone know where that video is?
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« on: March 04, 2011, 07:15:28 AM »
But TS said that we were less than a month to the beginning of the trial. Was there a change of plans in the last days?
Anyway, until May so much can happen! Including the signing of an agreement between Murray and justice!
I can only wait patiently and watch. Lol TS doesn't know everything,TS was wrong,people need to think for themselves not just go by TS said this or TS said that.The delay is a great thing and also very much common in the United States.It just brings the closing of the trial closer or into July...
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« on: February 15, 2011, 08:12:37 AM »
If anyone is curious as to exactly what they publish then just check out their website...wonderwallmagazine.com...I hope those of you who do check it out have better luck then I did because I don't know if it's just my computer or what but whenever I clicked on something to view it I never got the article or pics to show up on my screen but feel free to try.As for whether to do it or not,if the estate disagrees then I guess it will be a no go,just be careful 
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« on: February 15, 2011, 07:48:07 AM »
for additional info on the airport check out jesse ventura conspiracy theories 2012 in youtube.There are 6 parts to the whole thing and it shows with detail about the airport that was built for no reason when there is a perfectly good airport in denver,By the way the airport you refer to is (get this) 19 miles away from denver colorado and was built to cover up basically a governmental underground shelter that is like a mini city underground.
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« on: January 31, 2011, 03:57:27 AM »
the people awaking and knowing that the power is with them, and not with their governments.
Yes, the people ARE their governments...or at least, they SHOULD be....at least in a supposed democratic society....the problem is very simple....once certain people get control, they don't want to relinquish it....power and money corrupts...I pray this goes the it should....
Peace!
It would definately be wonderful if all of us had a say in what our governments do or don't do but in the end no matter what country we are from our governments could care less about any of us,our safwty,our well being,our happiness,none of it matters to any government in any country.Each countries government is out to protect only themselves and the ELITE where the rest of us can rot in hell.When all of our governments have been busy building underground bunkers to go live in when chaos hits(and it will)we the normal people will be left above ground to deal with it alone and try to survive on our own while they are perfectly safe and happy underground.It's not just in the United States that it's happening,it's all over the world.
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« on: January 07, 2011, 12:24:33 AM »
Ps. The only option left that makes sense is that they cannot determine the time of death of Michael Jackson because Michael Jackson is not dead.
Michael: Okay everybody, that's a wrap! *Smiling* :lol:
I approach 'that's a wrap' day with mixed emotions, truth be told.
And the winner isssss Michael Jackson for being the one that left the room for a supposed couple of minutes(not Murray)to go to the bathroom and then reenters the bedroom as Conrad Murray to start this whole hoax...
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« on: December 10, 2010, 12:09:29 AM »
Sorry but rice and beans ARE good things to have,the rice acts as a filler and the beans have fiber and protien in them just like the peanut butter does.For those lucky enough to hole away in their own homes try to think of alternate ways of heating for noone will have any power.The government will cut the power grid quicker then you can snap your fingers and it will most likely happen during the winter when we are the most vulnerable for heat.We have invested in indoor heaters that run off of propane that way when the rioting starts(and it will) we won't have any smoke coming from our chimney to show we are even at home.Also think of essentials as if you are going to be camping(roughing it).Money won't be worth anything the U.S. is already seeing to that and the money issue in the end is the U.S. governments fault anyway.
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« on: November 16, 2010, 01:08:22 AM »
Time will tell
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« on: November 16, 2010, 01:02:45 AM »
Am I wrong or did I read somewhere that Michaels children went to Vegas earlier in the year and met all the entertainers and were even dressed up as them...I could be wrong with everything that has gone on...
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« on: November 08, 2010, 02:39:32 AM »
I'm not saying his voice has changed alot per say,what I mean is,when working on a song and you have a rough cut demo or it has been recorded while you are trying to get the song down right a persons voice doesn't always sound exactly the same as when you have the final version.If we were to think as a non believer then as one we would be thinking that Sony took cuts from demos of Michaels songs to create an original.We wouldn't be able to sit here and picture Michael alive and well standing in a recording studio doing the whole song...
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« on: November 08, 2010, 02:18:36 AM »
I would buy it,Whether any of the songs are 100 % Michael or not it still has to have some of Michael in it there fore it will go in with the rest of my collection of his music...
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« on: November 08, 2010, 02:13:49 AM »
I believe after hearing the song umpteen dozen times that Michael did write part of it as in the part about falling in love and it was spliced in to the rest of the song created by someone else.Could Michael write a song about himself ?Yes I believe so,He has in the past just without using his name in it and I also feel he of anyone out there could get away with it without looking conceited JMO though.Is it all Michael?No I personally don't think it is but then again voices also do change over time and it's not like any of us have heard that much in the past decade from his singing so his voice could be slightly different...
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