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Quote from: "suspicious mind"
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Quote from: "finfin"
That is very interesting @libra8 thank you very much for posting what you see in the Tarot cards, it is great to have you here to give another perspective
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In the cards, Murrays manslaughter trial looks to be a distraction from whats really happening behind the scenes. Like a smoke & mirror screen, magic if you will.  
This reminds me of what Teddy Riley said on Twitter in January 2011 when asked about the trial

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YouAreLove77
@TeddyRiley1 any comments about Murray's trial??

TeddyRiley1
@YouAreLove77 smoke screen.


Also @libra8 please can you elaborate further about what you said?
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Theres a very dark negative manipulating energy behind all of this that needs to be resolved... its an energy that repeats until its removed or moves on.
It sounds scary   :shock:

Its a heavy dark energy of negative manipulation. Methods range from tears to fists, from threats of abandonment and financial deprivation to addiction. The first step to freedom for one who is victim is to face the problem and the fact that it cant be wished or hoped away. Then, one must seek help, over and over again, until they have the strength and resources to break away. Its a hitting bottom, however there is hope becuz when the bottom is hit there is only one way to go and that is up.

Just some the meanings:...Victory of materialism. Slavery. Subordination. Bondage. Bad outside influence or advice. Black Magic. Violence. Addiction. Emotional & or Physical abuse. Overcoming one's fears. Perception of the inner demon. Throwing off shackles.
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so you are saying the dark energy could concern any one or even a combination of these things and then some?  do you re read from time tio time to see if there are changes?
The negative energy comes up when I do the cards around "whats going on behind the Murray trial" its behind the scenes. I think the negative energy is the reason why he hoaxed his death.

When I do cards around Murray, to my surprise he comes up positive which is opposite from what I feel when I see pictures & videos of him...he makes my blood run cold. IDK Maybe hes just a good actor.

When I lay the cards around Michael I dont see the negative energy. Michael comes up stronge & very positive. Maybe the reason the negative energy isnt around him is becuz whoever / whatever the negative energy is thinks hes dead so its not a threat to him now. In Michaels area of communication shows very stronge w/ various forms of communication, contracts etc but it also shows an end to communicating as it were in the past...so theres a rebirth & regenerating energy there. In other words hes still communicating but not the way he did in the past. IMO this makes sense becuz society thinks hes dead so obviously he cant communicate like he did in the past its just that it clarifies in the cards.

I dont reread Michael as a hobby or anything like that. But I will from time to time. The cards show a positive consistency & strength around MJ but like I said, his area of communication is no longer the way it was.

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Quote from: "finfin"
That is very interesting @libra8 thank you very much for posting what you see in the Tarot cards, it is great to have you here to give another perspective
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In the cards, Murrays manslaughter trial looks to be a distraction from whats really happening behind the scenes. Like a smoke & mirror screen, magic if you will.  
This reminds me of what Teddy Riley said on Twitter in January 2011 when asked about the trial

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YouAreLove77
@TeddyRiley1 any comments about Murray's trial??

TeddyRiley1
@YouAreLove77 smoke screen.


Also @libra8 please can you elaborate further about what you said?
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Theres a very dark negative manipulating energy behind all of this that needs to be resolved... its an energy that repeats until its removed or moves on.
It sounds scary   :shock:

Its a heavy dark energy of negative manipulation. Methods range from tears to fists, from threats of abandonment and financial deprivation to addiction. The first step to freedom for one who is victim is to face the problem and the fact that it cant be wished or hoped away. Then, one must seek help, over and over again, until they have the strength and resources to break away. Its a hitting bottom, however there is hope becuz when the bottom is hit there is only one way to go and that is up.

Just some the meanings:...Victory of materialism. Slavery. Subordination. Bondage. Bad outside influence or advice. Black Magic. Violence. Addiction. Emotional & or Physical abuse. Overcoming one's fears. Perception of the inner demon. Throwing off shackles.

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Quote from: "heartphantom"
Quote from: "libra8"
Tarot reading is my fortay / I'm professional psychic.

In the past, I've seen in my cards much of what Psychic Jane has said in this video.

Nothing shes saying surprises me.

One thing I see differently in the cards, is that decisions around MJ coming back have not yet been made. Although MJ has very strong desire to comeback. I see uncertainty NOT a defined comeback date. So, I dont agree on the July 2011 date.

One thing that repeatedly comes up in the cards... for certain when and if he comesback it will be in a NEW way, much like a rebirth.


For me this video clarifies what I've been picking up on since the Memorial. BTW I'm not a Michael Jackson fan but since the Memorial I've learned allot about the man, his music and his message.

That confirms my feelings, Michael has no plan for a comeback, or at least the date is not known if he does plan it. Please tell me, Have you understood the reason of the hoax and the plan with Murray?  What is his role and what will be his outcome in his hoax? Also, do you see a real trial? If it's real, is the judge in on hoax (bribed to acquit Murray?). Does FBI support this hoax? Is Michael legally covered in this hoax? I would appreciate your answers, i do believe in psychic powers and my intuition tells me you have them. (well, even if i am not a psychic  :D )

Like I said before, in the cards theres uncertainty surrounding his return to public eye ..but uncertainty is just becuz of the unknown. The important thing, is that the cards show Michael has a VERY strong DESIRE to return to public eye...so, I put that off to "where theres a will theres a way"...the balls in his court and if he wants to return bad enough he'll do it.

In the cards, Murrays manslaughter trial looks to be a distraction from whats really happening behind the scenes. Like a smoke & mirror screen, magic if you will.

The trial, Murray, Judge, Attorneys confuse me becuz in the cards they're not what they appear...although the trial does show as traditional i.e. its real to us, but I think thats the distraction.


Theres a very dark negative manipulating energy behind all of this that needs to be resolved... its an energy that repeats until its removed or moves on.

Reminder: Tarot doesnt predict the future. Tarot picks up on the energies & energies can have a consistency, fluidity & at the same time ever changing. As the cards move forward so do the energies and thats what shows whats to come.


Theres NOTHING simple or black & white, cut & dry about the Michael Jackson Hoax.

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Tarot reading is my fortay / I'm professional psychic.

In the past, I've seen in my cards much of what Psychic Jane has said in this video.

Nothing shes saying surprises me.

One thing I see differently in the cards, is that decisions around MJ coming back have not yet been made. Although MJ has very strong desire to comeback. I see uncertainty NOT a defined comeback date. So, I dont agree on the July 2011 date.

One thing that repeatedly comes up in the cards... for certain when and if he comesback it will be in a NEW way, much like a rebirth.


For me this video clarifies what I've been picking up on since the Memorial. BTW I'm not a Michael Jackson fan but since the Memorial I've learned allot about the man, his music and his message.

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Hoax Videos / Re: Another La Toya Slip Up ?
« on: April 08, 2011, 03:58:51 PM »
On the shirt you see printed June 25 2009.

And the signature is signed ontop of that date. So the shirt had to have been signed after the death.

Also the printed "MICHAEL _ACKSON"... notice theres no printed J. When he signed his name he placed the signature J directly to line up where the printed J would be. This also proves the shirt was signed AFTER the shirt was printed, after June 25.



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The O2 Press Conference / Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences
« on: March 01, 2011, 05:23:15 PM »
question: When did the 10 concerts get changed to 50 concerts?

before or after the O2 con?

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TMZ Articles / Re: Michael Jackson's Kids -- We Wanna Be Like Daddy!
« on: March 01, 2011, 04:13:24 PM »
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
Quote from: "libra8"
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
It's the interviewer's laugh, definitely.

question: Why would interviewer laugh at Grandma disciplining the kids??

IMO that doesnt make sense that interviewer would laugh...very rude to laugh.

IMO its inappropriate for an adult to laugh at someone whos correctly disciplining their children.

Well, to me it looks like even Katherine is chuckling a bit to herself after asking him to sit up. Kind of like an "i shouldnt have to say this" laugh. The laugh also sounds like the interviewer's voice, kind of deep for a woman but still a feminine voice.
I disagree.

Katherine isnt chuckling, maybe she has a polite smile but not chuckle...shes dead serious when she says sit up & you can tell shes tired of telling him to sit up.


I agree it does sound like interviewer laughing...why is she laughing at everything they say & do??...how anoying.

question: @ 4:30 why does Katherine call Prince Ted??

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TMZ Articles / Re: Michael Jackson's Kids -- We Wanna Be Like Daddy!
« on: March 01, 2011, 03:27:30 PM »
Quote from: "MJFAN7"
It's the interviewer's laugh, definitely.

question: Why would interviewer laugh at Grandma disciplining the kids??

IMO that doesnt make sense that interviewer would laugh...very rude to laugh.

IMO its inappropriate for an adult to laugh at someone whos correctly disciplining their children.

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TMZ Articles / Re: Michael Jackson's Kids -- We Wanna Be Like Daddy!
« on: March 01, 2011, 02:56:28 PM »
The interviewer is a woman...IMO the laugh doesnt sound like a woman.

I didnt say its Michael, I was simply pointing out the similar sounding laugh.

But since you brought it up, tossing around the idea its his laugh...

I've learned in this hoax, anythings possible when it comes to Mike.

That part of the interview was done separately, privately. Mike would be running the camera. The woman interviewer isnt in the same picture frame. IMO that part of the interview looks like its edited & spliced together.

I see this interview as a 'show'.

Of course Michael wasnt 'Michael Jackson' front and center with all those people around.

He would be in disguise...heck people in that place didnt even recognize the Jackson kids.

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TMZ Articles / Re: Michael Jackson's Kids -- We Wanna Be Like Daddy!
« on: March 01, 2011, 02:04:59 PM »
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
Lol! These kids mus HEAR that laugh everyday therefore they can perfectly imitate that   :lol:

 ;)
Grandma tells Prince to sit up...Prince listens & respectfully obeys to what she says.

Theres no way a cameraman, or another kid would laugh at Grandma...tht would be so disrespectful.

I dont see/hear the laugh coming from any of the three kids. The laugh is coming from behind the camera area.

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TMZ Articles / Re: Michael Jackson's Kids -- We Wanna Be Like Daddy!
« on: March 01, 2011, 12:10:08 PM »
IDK if this is the place to post this.

Compare the laughs in these two videos

listen at :22
[youtube:2y27s21t]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beVQ7t0rvxg[/youtube:2y27s21t]

listen at 2:13
[youtube:2y27s21t]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pcS5aYXFu0[/youtube:2y27s21t]

my comment: I'm not voice expert. But IMO these laughs sound very similar.

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The O2 Press Conference / Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences
« on: January 30, 2011, 03:20:44 PM »
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "libra8"
Quote from: "icebluestarlight"
Arnie Klein said he did a lot of fillers and maybe he just did not take that silly Karen woman with him, therefore had human coloured makeup!
Yes Arnie did say that...after all its Arnies job & no reason for him to lie about tht..
Arnie Klein also said Mike peed in a cup in public, so I'm not so sure if we need to take Arnie that serious :lol:  :lol:
Its The Greatest Show On Earth & its satirical humor.

This movie is satire at its finest.

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I remember Arnie sayin that...:lol: peed in cup in public thats so funny  :lol:

That reminds me of the Autopsy Report & the container filled with pee found by his bed.

dont forget...

Animal toys in the courtroom ...the list is long...but its all satire.


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The O2 Press Conference / Re: O2 Guy and MJ - differences
« on: January 30, 2011, 01:35:19 PM »
Quote from: "icebluestarlight"
Arnie Klein said he did a lot of fillers and maybe he just did not take that silly Karen woman with him, therefore had human coloured makeup!
Yes Arnie did say that...after all its Arnies job & no reason for him to lie about tht..

I still believe O2 guy was MJ... if anything MJ at the O2 was disguised as an impersonator, he was just starting controversy i.e. give people something to talk about.

At the O2 when MJ talked about the final curtain call I believe he was referring to the O2 conference as being his final curtain call & that he said his good bye that day.

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Quote from: "bec"
Quote from: "all4loveandbelieve"
Hello I have news from my doctor friend. Now I had not choice to promise him that I will not bother him anymore  :lol:  Ok he send the info, that I send him by email to his colleague in USA.  I guess they have some kind of connection, and they searched for Michael death certificate.  They found a bogus certificate, that is not valid. No signature not all filled out. The real certificate is no where to be found.  This doctor told my friend, they may 2 scenarios.
1- They do not want no one to find the real death certificate,
2- Michael is not death so they had to show a bogus certificate.
He did not find the certificate with Latoya signature. I wonder what she signed?? I guess I am waking up all the doctors in Canada and USA. They are believers now! :lol:  They find it very bizzar, they really believe now that Michael must have contemplated this hoax to the T. BRAVO MICHAEL YOU ARE THE BEST. WE LOVE YOU
Now, my friend and his friends do not want to be involved because it is not ethical. They did it for me.

So what does it mean?? Dr. Murray not a doctor... Death certificate not found.

so my dear friends we have a big hoax. Love you all and blessings.


You know I really really really want to believe you.

I don't not. But I have to keep in mind that you can't offer us any proof, and I know you really can't, legally and morally. That's a shame but it's still fun to read. Thank you for sharing.
:roll: IMO you're only talking alot of he said, she said story telling, and you dont offer any proof one way or the other. :roll:

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All in good time...patience.  8-)

Seriously, AEG or whoever hired Murray would check & rechecked credentials and according to Donnas phone calls the only credentials Dr Murray has are what he put out on the internet himself so the reality is Dr Murrays a fake, a quack...and we'll see this come out in upcoming trial.

Its just ludicrous...
This is the hoax.

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