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In this article, it is stated that Michael Bush "even helped to lift and place the body in the coffin." Don't know if that's supposed to mean that he helped Karen do it or somebody else. Her placing the body is not mentioned.

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It's me. I do not cater to MJ fans here, nor do they care or cater to me. I NEVER say ALL fans are crazy or rude....but some are. I personally placed Michael's body in his casket, and when SOME FANS post their BS @ me about him being alive, THAT is rude and hurtful to ME. But SOME FANS don't give a damn about my feelings. They just think "I am rude". GUESS WHAT! I am able to tell them THEY are rude and crazy... BECAUSE THEY ARE, to me. They follow me, or read my tweets. I don't ask them too. RT @MichaelJaxon7: @wingheart this rude to Michael's fans. If they wanna believe he's alive, let them. Plz don't call them/us crazy. What would Michael think??

I thought she did his make-up? Has she ever said she placed his body in the casket? Is it normal for a make-up artist to do that? She must be pretty strong to put an adult male in his casket... I feel uneasy doubting her, though. She's really emotional about it.

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Knowing that you are such a ruthless monster, Michael - if you're still alive - please have somebody shoot Matt Fiddes.  :Pulling_hair:

You know I'm kidding, but this is getting way out of hand.

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Unbelieveable! Do you see Madonna's influence anywhere except for female pop stars dressing like prostitutes and being overly sexual?  /pull hair/

Michael, on the other hand, is EVERYWHERE! Everybody copies his dance moves, his way of singing, his style. Just unbelieveable, I don't think that guy even believed what he said himself. Plainly laughable.

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TMZ Articles / Re: BEYONCE'S BABY Triggers Church Vandalism
« on: January 12, 2012, 10:49:19 AM »
This is so sad. The reactions as well. Just because you might need keys to open that thing doesn't mean it was done by the pastor himself. You also need a key to open a front door, yet, people open them and rob your house. Beyoncé worships the devil? Oh, really? Did she tell you personally or was it some invisible little furry demon who did?

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Michael Jackson News / Re: New MJ album coming out in 2012
« on: January 05, 2012, 09:49:50 AM »
How incredibly spiteful. I can't even believe I'm responding to such an article, but how could anybody in this world consider songs like Hollywood Tonight, Behind The Mask, Much Too Soon, Best Of Joy... TRASH? You have to be deaf or just completely SPITEFUL to write something like that.

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This is entertainment. It's supposed to be flashy, it's supposed to be provocative. It doesn't mean anybody worships Satan.

Nobody needs to prove Rihanna "has nothing to do with the Illuminati". You would have to prove such an organization exists first, and even then it would be up to you to prove she is a part of it, not the other way around. You can't prove Michael is innocent of molesting children either, you have to prove he's guilty. You can't prove there are no invisible pink unicorns, yet, they probably do not exist. Still, if I wanted to I could probably find thousands of symbols indicating their existence, as well as the existence of an international invsible pink unicorn conspiracy. Seriously.

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Twitter ~ Verified Accounts / Re: Paris Jackson Twitter @ParisJackson
« on: December 24, 2011, 08:17:24 AM »
"Open your eyes and wake up. Thing aren't really as they seem......."

What is she referring to?

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Funny thing is, though, that there were absolutely no tears in her face at the memorial. :D So, she can't be that good at faking it after all.

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Hey Do. :)

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Every witness who was called by Sneddon denied that anything improperly ever occured between them and Michael. These witnesses didn't have to be afraid to have to reveal the name of their perpetrator, they were not whistleblowers, all they had to do was to say HE DID IT, but they didn't.

Sadly, I do not agree with you on that. We cannot know for sure whether the attacks were really that severe but the Chandlers were supposedly threatened and attacked quite a lot, either by Michael's fans or people from Michael's camp, with or without Michael's consent. Even Geraldine Hughes speaks about attacks on Mr. Rothman's office in her book, so there is obviously some truth to it. I think people going against Michael did have a lot to lose, Michael's fans can be quite tough, and he also had shady people working for him. Maybe there is even some truth to the Arvizo's claims of being threatened by the alleged co-conspirators but the defense always agreed (and they are probably very right) that Michael was unaware of any threats.

To set the record straight: I fully believe in Michael's innocence. But it would not have been easy for victims to come out if there had been any.

As for Corey Feldman, please also remember that he is a major drama queen and has accused Michael of all types of ridiculous things, such as abandoning him on 9/11. There are other reports from people who were around that strongly contradict what Corey claimed. I'm not at all alleging that he is lying about the sexual abuse he had to endure, just saying that he is a drama queen and loves to wine and exaggerate. The two Coreys both spoke about their abuse on television, if exposing the ones responsible was that dangerous, wouldn't they generally keep their mouths shut instead of complaining about it in reality soaps? If the abusers are that dangerous, wouldn't they have to fear attacks when they hint at the abuse in public? Again, I'm not alleging they were lying, just pointing out there is a lot of drama involved that might or might not be 100% authentic... to that extent.

However, I am severely sorry about Corey Haim's demise, and I'm not trying to downplay the issue. I believe he was abused, and that probably played an important role.

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Hello Do. :)

Just to set it straight, I generally do not believe in any of those outrageous stories, since I see absolutely no evidence for them. I find all this woman's claims highly questionable, as I do generally when it comes to wild conspiracy theories and the like. I'm sorry. But just so you know it is not just Michael's age that was obviously wrong that made me question her credibility. It was just one example to show how incredible her story is (at least in my opinion).

I simply require proper evidence when it comes to claims of any kind. And, sure, disclosing sexual abuse is hard, but remember that we're also alleging that Jordan Chandler and Gavin Arvizo are lying, and that others believe there are more "victims" of Michael, afraid to come out. Same thing. In my opinion, it is wrong to assume, though, that just because many victims never disclose, there is sexual abuse all over the place. See the two Coreys, they talked about it. Obviously, it's not that hard and dangerous to speak out after all, otherwise they probably would've been attacked. Sure, they didn't come up with any names, as far as I'm concerned, but they said it, and when Corey Feldman was interviewed by police concerning Michael, he also spoke about being sexually abused by someone other than Michael. The police could've asked him who did it but they sadly weren't interested. I can only assume that - had they asked him - Corey would've given names.

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Bee Bee and SEHF, I believe you're both missing the point. Even if it's all but rumours about Michael being abused (but the rumours ARE there and for a very long time actually) AND maybe the author Brice Taylor made a mistake in remembering the age of the Jackson-children when she watched the abuse AND maybe she lied about everything (which I doubt, read You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login) but hey, I wasn't there so how would I know, if she lies, Bonnie lies and I'm lying also). Then STILL the fact remains that there were AND are lots of children abused in the entertainment industry. Wouldn't you think that Michael is very aware of that (he participated in this industry ALL of his life) and would want it to STOP??? Why do you think he was so passionately committed to children all over the world? I don't think there is anything 'LOL' about this subject. And I don't believe he would feel so empty and unhappy and unloved and detached and talking about a horrible childhood if there wasn't something SERIOUSLY WRONG back then. But that's just my opinion.

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Thanks for posting this.
In the first edition of Randy Tarraborrelli's The Magic and the Madness (published in 1991 I believe) there was a story about Michael talking with a friend about child abuse. Have to look it up for the exact details. But she (the friend) has told that he wanted to know everything about it and wanted to read about it as much as he could. It was at the time he was in New York while taping The WIZ. And yes, La Toya wanted to mention the sexual abuse of Michael in her book in the early nineties but that was at the time she was with Jack Gordon, so I don't know about her credibility back then. But Tarraborrelli wrote about those rumours too.

Hey.
Fact is just that when somebody is making outrageous claims that do not add up (about Michael's age, for example), they are not credible in the slightest. In my opinion, they sadly do not deserve to be believed. A 4 to 5 year old child looks a lot different from an 8 to 10 year old, wouldn't you agree? That cannot be ignored. Those stories are outrageous, and they're not any different from other outrageous stories out there about Michael, for example, molesting children himself. Same with both, they're probably lies.

Michael did/does care a lot about children and he was certainly severely abused as a child. However, it is simply not true that he would have to have been sexually abused or have witnessed sexual abuse in order to develop such strong empathy for suffering children. You do not have to suffer at all to care about the sufferings in the world. Still, Michael did suffer severely. Are you forgetting that he himself has spoken about this at length many times, accusing his father of emotional and physical abuse? Never sexual abuse, but the abuse he suffered certainly was enough already to scar him for life.

Yes, those rumors have been persistent for a very long time. As have rumors (and, actually, while I don't believe in them at all, they are a lot more consistent and a lot more credible than THIS) about Michael being a pedophile. And, as I said, most people arguing Michael was a sexual abuse victim believe him to be a child molester. This is why they keep coming up with it. It is my humble opinion that you shouldn't jump on that bandwagon when there is absolutely NO, ZERO evidence about Michael having been sexually abused. Of course there are rumors, as there are rumors about Michael being a perverted freak, and they go back to the 80's, all of them. Is it right to believe in a rumor just because it is repeated a thousand times? I don't think so.

I'm not trying to downplay the issue of child sexual abuse, and I believe that it is probably a big issue in the entertainment industry. But so is emotional and physical abuse which Michael evidently had to endure as a child. Nobody has come up with any halfway credible story about Michael being sexually abused; as I pointed out earlier, they can't even make up their minds as to who supposedly abused him: Joe, the pope, Bigfoot, Diana Ross, we've heard it all. Don't you think there would be a little bit more solid information if there was any truth to it?

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I'm sorry but this story sounds nothing but crazy.

When Michael was 4 to 5 the Jackson 5 were practicing in their little home in Gary, Indiana. They were far from being a proper act and Michael only started being integrated into the group at about age 5. They did not even call themselves The Jackson 5 in the beginning, and they were light years away from any television performance or the like.

Seriously... There are nothing but rumors concerning Michael being a supposed sex abuse victim. Nothing but stupid rumors. And you know who usually spreads them? The ones claiming he's a child molester himself because - as we know - most child molesters were victims of sexual abuse in the past.

As for Jermaine's (or Stacy's or whoever's) story about Michael and those supposed businessmen... Any story for that non-existent book was created for drama. Read some of the things Stacy Brown has been claiming, first he said Jermaine really said all of this, then he recanted that, then he said Jermaine was pushed to spice up the story because nobody was interested, etc., etc. Lie after lie.

Compare that to what La Toya claimed, Michael being sexually abused by a "relative". So, what is it, an uncle, Joe, Diana Ross, music industry people, the pope? Seriously, if Michael had been sexually abused by anyone, I think his family would not have to make up stories about him being molested by different people. Their stories would probably be a little more consistent. When you know the truth, you have nothing but the truth to tell.

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Janet Jackson / Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
« on: December 08, 2011, 03:40:19 PM »
While I know it might be entirely useless, it is worth a try.

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Feels kind of stupid, as if Janet was the only person in the world responsible for the suffering of animals... But I do feel we have to reach her in a way. Wake her up. She supposedly cares about animals. If she has stopped caring, maybe she does care about her fans and her image? If we managed to get some people to sign, maybe she would realise she's on the wrong track.

Please sign.

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Janet Jackson / Re: Janet Jackson Launches Fur Fashion Line
« on: December 08, 2011, 02:12:52 PM »
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Perhaps you may want to consider starting an animal rights forum. Clearly this is something yourself and others are passionate about. It would do the animal rights cause more justice than here on a HOAX forum.

p.s. I have also responded to your PM. typing/


Are you trying to say, "This is not the appropriate place to be speaking out against fur"? Janet fans tell you the same thing when you bring this up on her pages. See, the sad thing is, though... Animal rights forums are usually read by animal rights advocates. I'm sorry if you feel annoyed by our rants but you're free to ignore them, you know? In my opinion, any place is the right place to criticize cruelty. The ones suffering from it will probably agree.

I hate fighting with people over the internet as to what can be said where and what can't. If Janet can wear fur in California, each and every one of us can be speaking out against that in each and every forum, any time, any place.

Peace.


You're 100% right.

Why start a forum no one will pay attention to? Then again who knew anyone would pay attention to a Death Hoax forum....so why bother trying right?

My apologies for even attempting to find a solution to the problem.

Peace to you also. respect/

Well, you certainly paid attention. ;) Anyway, how would you know none of us has started an animal rights forum or is active in one?

Yes, peace. My bed's calling.

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