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Other Odd Things / Re: WHY ARE YOU DECIDING FOR US???
« on: January 13, 2010, 07:29:19 PM »
Quote from: "q0txciityl0ve"
since my thread was deleted (for obvious reasons), ill just post it on here & "show my true colors"...
Bravo to you, q0txciityl0ve! I'm very proud of you for speaking up about what you know is right.

Also, thanks to everyone else who dared to speak up and agree with me. In case you don't know, I've been banned twice already, once after each comment I posted on this thread.

Fortunately, I don't need this forum for emotional support, but it's important that other members know what's going on here. Make of it what you will.

I'll be around commenting and reading until the owners figure out how to REALLY ban me permanently. I'm a tech-savvy gal, so it might take 'em awhile yet.


Other Odd Things / Re: WHY ARE YOU DECIDING FOR US???
« on: January 13, 2010, 06:20:07 PM »
Quote from: "mumof3"
Thanks I agree I was a member of the old mjhd and have  been here at my computor for months and maybe BOW was not trust worthy or maybe she was  but we all have the right to deciede I cant see why it has upset people so much I have been on the site that BOW is on and I find it confusing so I just waited for the tranlations  and now that has all gone.
Thank you, mumof3. It's good to see that I'm not the only sensible, mature member of this forum.

And, yes, the "nasty" ones are definitely getting banned (LOL!!!) and not necessarily leaving voluntarily. It's truly sad that this is the best the two owners of this forum can do.

I feel very, very badly for the people who rely on these forums to get them through a difficult time by sharing and engaging with like-minded individuals. Somehow, the very purpose of these types of forums are getting lost in the muck and big egos, at least on certain websites.

Where does Michael Jackson and his possibly faked death fit in?

Other Odd Things / Re: WHY ARE YOU DECIDING FOR US???
« on: January 13, 2010, 05:07:01 PM »
Since this is the thread where we officially get to show our true colors, let me chime in that I feel for the people who wanted to discuss BOW.

I never looked at those threads again after the first time, but what I read then was no worse, less believable, or more ridiculous than the stuff on the Illuminati/Mind Control thread started by this forum's two owners, which is currently on its 13th page with over 300 comments.

Although I have no interest in BOW, I COMPLETELY understand why certain forum members are highly offended right now, and I'm sure there are others who feel your "pain," as well.

It's really unfair when you devote a lot of time and effort to a thread, only to have it go *POOF!* with NO explanation beforehand or time allotted to save the comments that were already made. I would feel disrespected and mistreated, too.

I'm sorry you all have to go through this, and for the umpteenth time if you were also a member of the old MJHD(s).

It would be wonderful if Michael returns this month. But if he does, the fact that you've written about it today in this post will be nothing more than a mere coincidence.

Said differently, I still don't buy into the TIAI agenda, although I do give you -- whoever you are -- a little credit for stringing so many words together.

Other Odd Things / Re: This got me to thinking...
« on: January 12, 2010, 01:19:21 AM »
Quote from: "rosemariaantigone"
Don't you think if this were really a hoax that there would be people breaking their silence? Trying to sellout Michael for a quick buck and their 15 min. of fame? Guys, I need your help on this!
It depends on how many people actually know about the hoax, if there actually is one. I personally don't think many people would have that information if Michael's death was indeed faked.

It's impossible to put a number on it, of course. But besides certain family members (if any), I would speculate no more than a handful or two would know. So, people selling out wouldn't be much of a threat if the right handful(s) of people knew what was really going on.

I could imagine a successful hoax of this caliber with nobody breaking the silence, provided only a few people were in on it.

Quote from: "rosemariaantigone"
And more importantly, could Michael really even trust these people? We all know that Michael may have been good at many things, but being a good judge of characther was not one of them.
I disagree on the judge of character part. Michael would have been a lot worse off if he wasn't a good judge of character much of the time, considering how many vultures surrounded him constantly. He just didn't always get it right, like everybody else, and when he failed to, the repercussions were bigger given his immense celebrity.

The trust issue depends on the reason for the hoax. If Michael's death was faked and the reason was, for example, his life being in danger (which is the one and only reason I believe), it's possible he had nothing to do with setting up a hoax, or at least no control over it, which means he would have nothing or very little to do with deciding who to tell. So, say law enforcement is responsible for setting things up. Then they would also be in charge of determining who knows about the hoax and who doesn't.

Considering that the silence hasn't been broken so far, whoever is in charge of the hoax (if there is one) has done a great job picking the people on "the inside."

Other Odd Things / Re: What is this mean guys?
« on: January 12, 2010, 12:28:17 AM »
Quote from: "Christiana"
They were asked about fake Jackson accounts on Twitter and that was their reply.
They also retweeted about fan clubs shortly before the tweet quoted here, so they were referring to more than just fake Jackson accounts. That's why they specifically referred to "fan clubs" in the tweet.

Other Odd Things / Re: What is this mean guys?
« on: January 12, 2010, 12:15:38 AM »
Quote from: "mjisthemuses"
it's unfortunate people pose as us & use fan clubs to create false hope. that's never what we've been about.Michael either. We r about love.
You have to read the recent previous tweets and retweets from that Twitter account to figure out what the tweet quoted here means.

The first part means The Jacksons aren't happy that some people are pretending to be them and fooling unsuspecting fans.

The second part seems to refer to two things. First, an MJ fan club (MJSUNIFC = Michael Jackson's United Nation International Fan Club) is pissed at the people behind a so-called tribute show named "Jacko: The Ultimate Thriller" (I know -- how can it be a tribute to Michael with Jacko in the title? Idiots!) because they lied in a press release that the fan club gave an award to some MJ impersonator involved with the show.

However, I think the tweet is also talking about death hoax forums but mistakenly calls them "fan clubs." You've got to remember that the Jackson brothers are up there in age and nowhere near as cool or hip as they try to appear. So, they might not realize what the proper name is for a forum.

If I'm right about the forum part, it does look like they're saying death hoax forums are giving Michael's fans false hope that Michael is still alive. I'm just interpreting, though, and I could be wrong about the second "fan club" part.

The Ambulance / Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...
« on: January 11, 2010, 09:09:36 PM »
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
I found this link on another forum to one of the paramedics who worked on MJ.... I'm not sure what to believe anymore.
Yes, these blog posts are a wonderful discovery, especially considering the pains the blogger took to not refer to Michael by name and play up her insider knowledge. She seems very honest and respectable.

As for what to believe: I still find it *incredibly* hard to believe that not a single one of the many, many people who supposedly saw Michael dead on June 25 (and afterward) bothered to snap a photo, whether they were professionals or just bystanders.

This blogger even states directly that everyone on her husband's crew had camera cellphones with them when they responded but still didn't take a single photo, even though they were also well aware of how much money such a photo could earn them.

As much as I might try, I can't buy that. Not to imply that medical and city workers are dishonest by nature (I'm sure some are and many aren't), but taking a quick snap on a cellphone is way TOO easy for that many people to ALL pass up.

So, in a roundabout way, this blogger's posts about June 25 don't bother me because they seem to continue the same pattern of unbelievable events that we've been witnessing since June 25. How odd is it that NO other photo from June 25 of an allegedly dead Michael -- one of the MOST famous and hounded people on Earth -- has surfaced besides the several of that same scene in the ambulance? It's too odd to even express with mere words.

Thanks for posting about this blog.

Quote from: "Shout"
If there is any possibility that a family member can just read out an official statement from UCLA then we do not have a hoax.
I wish I had the time to help with your research request, Shout. However, for now I'd like to point out that I don't follow the logic in the statement I've excerpted above.

Whether a family member can "just read out an official statement from UCLA" or not, that doesn't mean the statement has to be the truth. Of course, people assume it's the truth because it's supposedly an official statement.

But if Michael's death was faked with assistance from law enforcement or other officials with appropriate authority, there are several reasons why an untruthful official statement might be released, despite any existing laws or regulations governing official statements. One reason could be to keep the person or people who were endangering Michael's life from knowing they didn't succeed in killing him.

Deliberately lying about the situation and misleading the public would serve a higher purpose in that case, namely apprehending and (hopefully) convicting the person or people who posed a threat. Legal and criminal matters require that kind of manipulation of reality sometimes to achieve the best outcome. It happens fairly often on various levels, too, such as when undercover officers pretend to be people they aren't in order to gain the trust of crooks and catch them committing a crime.

TMZ Articles / Re: Another 1am TMZ Post
« on: January 11, 2010, 01:49:53 AM »
Quote from: "MJsbasheret"
What's with the late night (early AM) postings on TMZ?
TMZ posts new stories almost every night around midnight Eastern Time (which is 9pm the previous night their time) to keep the website active until the first posts of the new day, hours later.

It's an excellent strategy for maintaining around-the-clock traffic because (1) since most websites don't publish new posts that late/early, TMZ attracts more readers looking for fresh late-night/early-morning news and (2) frequent readers know there will be new material every night/morning, and they stop by just so they can read it and comment. I'm sure TMZ's advertisers love the continuous traffic.

As for the article, I'm sticking with my usual wait-and-see, then-I'll-believe-it approach. There are just way too many media outlets publishing way too much contradictory, inconsistent, and questionable "news" allegedly obtained from way too many unreliable faceless, nameless, anonymous sources.

This is worse than a three-ring circus, and I refuse to waste my time on it anymore. If Michael is really dead -- and I still don't believe he is -- he deserves much better than what's happened since June 25.

Hoax Videos / Re: MJ warning to fans via Bonnie Vent
« on: January 11, 2010, 12:53:46 AM »
Quote from: "lookingforthetroot"
What do you think would a spirit talk like this...
I think Bonnie is a big old fake and has no more contact with Michael's "spirit" than I do, which means none. So, I don't take that "warning" seriously. Others may disagree, of course.

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Other Odd Things / Re: Tell me this is not how it ended
« on: January 11, 2010, 12:44:11 AM »
Quote from: "Jude"
I found this, but want someone to tell me its fake , please let it be fake
Here you go, Jude: The suicide note in the video is fake. I'm also confident that's not how it ended, meaning with Michael committing suicide.

As earlier commenters have already pointed out, the English in that fake note supposedly written by Michael is much too illiterate for a well-read native English speaker like Michael. Furthermore, Michael would NEVER say certain things that the note includes. For example, I don't have to know the man at all to be 100% sure he would NEVER call his own children freaks.

I've read other stuff that Michael has written, too, and while he makes certain spelling errors repeatedly, his grasp of his own mother tongue isn't THAT poor. My favorite part of the video note is the very end, where Michael allegedly signs off with "Bye By." Not possible.

Others / Re: Theresa Gonsalves
« on: January 10, 2010, 11:01:57 PM »
Quote from: "Zen"
BUT..the part of her TWO sexual encounters with Michael were really not written about until his "death" and I am finding that a little shifty.
Two sexual encounters? With Michael? Really? That must have been added to her story way after June 25.

The last time I had a discussion about this woman and looked into her background was months ago. From what I recall, she wasn't claiming she had any sexual encounters with Michael back then.

To the contrary, she seemed to indicate that Michael had helped her during a difficult time she had with another man she was sexually involved with, and it was her relationship with that other man that inspired Michael to write "Billie Jean." In other words, she wasn't Michael's Billie Jean, but rather Billie Jean to another man, and Michael's awareness of the situation served as the source material for the song he later wrote.

Or maybe my memories are all just wrong. That could be it, too.

Hoax Pictures / Re: Michael Jackson prosthetic tip on his nose
« on: January 10, 2010, 10:49:29 PM »
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
J. Randi Taborelli is a nit wit.
Indeed he is. Like Karen Faye, Taraborrelli believes -- and desperately wants others to believe -- that he was closer to Michael than he actually is. He knows no more about Michael's personal business than Michael allowed him to know.

Michael didn't wear a prosthetic nose or nose tip. However, he did wear special tape on his nose from time to time, which is standard practice for people who've had cosmetic surgery on their nose. The tape helps keep the cartilage and bone properly aligned and the nose's structural appearance as desired.

Michael Jackson News / Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?
« on: January 10, 2010, 08:01:31 PM »
For those who don't know yet, reputable Entertainment Weekly published an article today that states they "confirmed with the L.A. County coroner’s office that the document, which is part of the public record, is genuine."

The document in question is the amended death certificate that trashy News of the World published, which Entertainment Weekly's article links to directly. So, it seems the amendment to Michael's death certificate may be real.

However, I specify "may" (1) given the original source and (2) the fact that Entertainment Weekly has previously had to recant information it published.

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