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« on: July 23, 2013, 06:08:22 PM »
Michael's travels around the world and visits to Orphanages from every continent must have been a huge eye opener to the abuse of children on a much larger scale than just hunger and abandonment. I can't help but wonder just what knowledge he gained into abuse of children and the thousands that go missing that we never hear about. His focus was on them being cared for and loved and safeguarded. It seems in listening to Michael Prince that the Government agencies of the world had an interest in children as well, but not in protecting them and taking care of them. I have to wonder if the things that Michael learned about the abuse of our children is what made him a target, and what better way to destroy his credibility so that no one would listen to him than to use the very thing he loved against him. Throughout this video this man talks of the abuse that children suffered by these agencies in the experimentation of human cloning and genetic hybridization. "The Dulce Papers" is an excellent topic to research, where a handful of top officials from the various military installations around the world wrote about things happening underground that some speculate to be fictitious. It's funny that it's always the ones on the outside looking in that want to speculate and call things bizarre and fictitious but would they risk their life in search of the truth? I was always intrigued by Michael's wardrobe of Military type accessories.
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« on: July 22, 2013, 04:06:02 PM »
Loves2Fish...your nickname says it all you are trying to fish us and you won't get it, you are coming here with a very arrogant attitude pretending you know MJ much better than we do after being full 4 years studying about him, reading about him and even some of us being his fans since many years ago, this is a investigation hoax forum and we are here to look for clues and trying to figure out and connect dots, we are quite confident that we are waking the right path and we'll get to know the truth very soon, are you looking for clues, connecting dots or just assessing our behaviour or thoughts about it all?. We already talked about this software capable of copying any human voice when we talked about "The Main Attraction" who could be an impostor or MJ himself, the fact that this software exists doesn't make MJ to be dead, so please think about it.
You make an awful lot of unwarranted "assumptions". I have never stated what I believe. But you go ahead and assume however you choose. I guess that is just the nature of some people, so I'm not going to pass judgement either way. However I would ask that you not be so rude as to make fun of my Nickname, my father had that sticker made for me and the name is very sentimental, and I would have never used it here if I had known ahead of time that someone would belittle me with it. Thank you and have a great life.
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« on: July 22, 2013, 08:35:23 AM »
@Loves2Fish
Your full post sounds like valuable information for us to be mindful of, as well as a friendly warning to simply be careful as we continue to examine things through hoax eyes. You asked a question in the following portion of your post:
I do have a question for you as well. I imagine you know how much Michael loved everyone, not just fans. And I’m sure he knew about things of this nature and even things that are much more beguiling and diabolical. Do you really believe he would get out there and hide among evil impostors, full well knowing that people would have no way to know the difference between him and someone that is posing as him with evil intensions? Would he want to set people up that he loved like that so as to endanger them? Not being certain who would fall for the wrong message. That is not the nature of someone that stands for truth and love. But unfortunately there will be those that will continue to go after the false images and the propaganda. I just pray their lives are not turned upside down as I have seen with some already. I lost a dear friend to a huge Michael Jackson impostor, so I know what I’m talking about.
It does indeed depend on the motivation behind the action. Some, as you point out, hide behind their online personas with evil intentions. However, if MJ is online and participating on social media sites (and he is a human being in need of social interaction like the rest of us), the only way that he could ever do so without causing mass chaos, before or after 6/25/09, is incognito. Based on what most of us presume to know and love about MJ, he undoubtedly has upstanding intentions, of “truth and love,” towards his fans. Nevertheless, as you’ve highlighted, practice of personal care and safety is key. JMO. Perhaps others have thoughts to share.
Thanks again for the info and your perspective, Loves2Fish.
Thank You Starchild for your thoughts and for being so gracious. Yes the goal is to make people think from a reality stand point and to consider all the pitfalls. None of us knew Michael personally but we know he is a father and he would not want Paris to fall victim to some prankster on line. So I think he would be very wise in his choices when considering everything including his own safety. After all we just learned a few months ago Big Brother KNOWS ever word we write and every sentence we speak and they watch every move we make, and can be in our front door before we can bat an eyelash. No one even Michael Jackson is immune from them.
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« on: July 21, 2013, 06:30:22 PM »
Each person is responsible for their own actions. Even individuals sucked in or even target ex by 'Imposters' are responsible for their own outcomes / consequences.
Yes I made that similar statement about another poser, that they were not to be blamed but the people that were trying to make things fit that didn't fit with anything. Anyway, I have said all I can say. The article and real life experiences speak for themselves. Be safe and guard your heart.
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« on: July 21, 2013, 06:09:44 PM »
Loves2Fish....this is old stuff.....I have a simple question for you.....do you believe Michael is alive?
What I believe about Michael is not what is important here, but the fact that this is old stuff IS very important, because that technology has been in the perfection phase for 12 years. So please don’t think it is impossible for Michael’s fans to be targeted for things of very wrongful and hurtful propaganda. The very fact that people are looking for clues under every rock and seeing things that are not in anyway related to clues about Michael, make them easy prey. When looking for clues, clues to what? Clues he’s alive, clues he’s coming back, clues that he talks to people? What is it specifically that people are looking for. Evidence that he was alive was given 4 years ago. Are people looking for clues that Michael is communicating with people? Can you imagine people on social networks such as FB,Twitter, YT and such, being drawn in by a very crafty impostor that would go to the extent of getting phone numbers and addresses, and calling unsuspecting individuals and telling them how special they are and they appreciate the support for Michael and SOUNDING exactly like him and wreaking havoc on a person emotionally, and God forbid doing bodily harm to people. The bottom line is that there are people out there that will do very ugly things to people that are gullible, and people that feel Michael is behind all the scenes doing all kind of who knows what, they will be easy targets and these individuals will go after any and everyone for purposes that are unimaginable. If you think it’s not possible and that it has and does not happen, then you really need to take a long hard look beyond the scope of Michael as just a singer and dancer. And if his purpose for being in hiding is not taken serious, then anyone can fall prey to such activity. If people think Michael needs to be vindicated, then ask yourself why? What is it about Michael that he became such a huge target himself. It wasn’t because he was such a great entertainer. There have been many astounding entertainers throughout history. What was it about Michael that he on every turn had to fight against people that wanted to take him down. Why was he continually undermined and sabotaged. Why was he put in a situation that he wanted to make his residence in another country. His mind wasn’t always on music, he said so himself. There are women on the social networks that give their names out, they send pictures of themselves and their children, and God only knows what other information they give to these people that sit behind a computer pretending to be people they are not. You can believe and do as you wish, I’m just putting the information out there as caution to how anyone can be made to believe they have personal contact with Michael, and that many people could be manipulated by videos and recordings that could sound identical to Michael. And they can make him say anything and people unsuspectingly would believe the false information. I do have a question for you as well. I imagine you know how much Michael loved everyone, not just fans. And I’m sure he knew about things of this nature and even things that are much more beguiling and diabolical. Do you really believe he would get out there and hide among evil impostors, full well knowing that people would have no way to know the difference between him and someone that is posing as him with evil intensions? Would he want to set people up that he loved like that so as to endanger them? Not being certain who would fall for the wrong message. That is not the nature of someone that stands for truth and love. But unfortunately there will be those that will continue to go after the false images and the propaganda. I just pray their lives are not turned upside down as I have seen with some already. I lost a dear friend to a huge Michael Jackson impostor, so I know what I’m talking about.
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« on: July 21, 2013, 05:19:45 AM »
Please read about the capabilities out there and just how deep the rabbit hole can go. And don't think that everything you hear and see is driven by Michael. Maybe used against him, yes but to get messages to his fans??? No!! How will you know the difference and what will you really be following. Who's Hoax will it be? You are not allowed to view links.
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« on: July 19, 2013, 10:55:10 AM »
Did Brazil just get the internet this past week? Because in 48hr or less the Front Twitter account more than doubled in size. Now it is creeping along again. Front said Hello to all the new peeps, so many new from Brazil. To very odd. Did the twitter monster give birth to babies? :icon_e_surprised:
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« on: July 18, 2013, 06:34:02 PM »
After close observation of twitter and live conversations with some dear people that have gotten entangled on a personal level with the individuals behind some of these twitter pages that hint to be Michael, I have come to the conclusion that I feel if anyone is deceived by Twitter Front or any one falling into the category of sitting behind a computer screen giving hints that they "could" be Michael, (and there are hundreds of them) it is of there own doing and Front can not be blamed. He is indeed doing what people are looking for, to be "entertained" and if anyone chooses to find reasons to convince themselves that he is Michael, no matter how subtle, then they will get the disappointments that go along with the lack of real communication.
I don't agree with this part of your post (I do with the rest of it, though). IMO, it is not correct that people are merely trying to find reasons to convince themselves Front is Michael. Front gives the reasons, right in your face (he posts pictures of himself, looking like MJ; he posts pictures of his bracelets, similar/the same as MJ's, his handwriting has a striking resemblance to MJ's, ...). If Front is not Michael, but someone with good and pure intentions who just cares very deeply about MJ, and who just happens to look like him, then why on earth would he post these pictures? He wouldn't, because he would know many people would think he is the man himself and someone with good and pure intentions doesn't want to fool people like that. It's not a prank. These are people with real feelings and emotions. If people are deceived by Front, he is to blame and he does it intentionnaly. No matter how kind his words are.
Again, I'm not saying Front is a poser. I'm just saying that IF he is not MJ, IMO he is not a nice person.
I was looking around at some of the evidence that was mentioned above, and going back through some old post by other members, and I found these below. Now if the second picture you are saying is the ones that make you believe he could be Michael, I would have to say that is each individuals own minds eye. Because I have stood on my head and crossed my eyes, and put on sunglasses, and 3D glasses and for the life of me I just can't make these 2 pictures match. My son looked at it and he cain't, heck the dog looked at it and growled. Now don't get me wrong here, I could be completely disillusioned and that could very well be Michael's hand after a transplant or some cosmetic surgery to cover up those veins that us folks get as we age. You never now what can go on in hoaxville. But some how I just get the notion that Twitter Front is using Love Potion....#9 that is.   ![]() [/quote] ![]()
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« on: July 18, 2013, 09:13:35 AM »
After close observation of twitter and live conversations with some dear people that have gotten entangled on a personal level with the individuals behind some of these twitter pages that hint to be Michael, I have come to the conclusion that I feel if anyone is deceived by Twitter Front or any one falling into the category of sitting behind a computer screen giving hints that they "could" be Michael, (and there are hundreds of them) it is of there own doing and Front can not be blamed. He is indeed doing what people are looking for, to be "entertained" and if anyone chooses to find reasons to convince themselves that he is Michael, no matter how subtle, then they will get the disappointments that go along with the lack of real communication. One day that will come to an end even if it where Michael, which I highly doubt I might add, he can't sit behind a computer for ever to tweet terms of endearment. When this person gets tired of the whole thing they simply can hit the "delete" button and the account is gone, or just stop tweeting and abandon the account. If they do that, maybe a goodbye speech or something of the sort. Then there will be all these "hearts" left in the dust, depending on how serious anyone takes these twitter accounts. Besides it's really sad to see some of the tweets that he gets. So many of them are young girls and young women tweeting, one right after the other, (oh i love you, talk to me, follow me, dm me, why won't you talk to me, if you're Michael show me, I have loved you all my life) on and on and on,"give me.... I want" me me me, I I I. What is all that? How is that resulting in anything positive? because then after about a dozen tweets from the same people, they get mad and say OH YOUR NOT MICHAEL. You see this back and forth of ill fated words between the twitters that believe and the twitters that don't, they all fight amongst themselves  it brings a lot of division between the people that are suppose to Love Michael and really understand the message of Love that he gave to the world. It's a show alright. And then in the end when he doesn't deliver "Something" what? I would have no idea what they expect, then he will be ostracized and hung out to dry in the cyber arena! :icon_rolleyes: But for the time being they do have something to pass the time and where entertained and that's what it's all about, except for the vindication thing, and that is a whole different story. Vindication is what starts wars, and I was thinking all along Michael was about bringing peace to the world, and you can't have it both ways. But maybe it's not about vindication as the twitter Michaels put it. It's simply about Love and Truth, and you either get it or you don't. jmho...
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« on: July 17, 2013, 11:14:33 PM »
It's a shame the Doc's tongue doesn't have abscesses. ![]()
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« on: July 17, 2013, 01:44:04 PM »
When it is said that Michael's name will be cleared, what does that actually mean? Because I'm thinking that after Michael was found not guilty in a court of law and knowing the things he did in this world that were things only done by a pure loving heart, what more can be done to convince people. I'm afraid those that don't already understand the true nature of his soul will never get it. They are disconnected from Love and they are blind, and they chose to be that way. The people that don't love Michael are conditioned to think the way they do. They are controlled by society. Society & media associates catch phrases with a person's identity and immediately it develops an idea or view point by those that are not in tuned or are not able to feel the true nature of an individual. Love knows Love and only those with a loving heart and an understanding nature can really see Michael's innocents. There is no proof of sorts that can change a person's heart. That is why Michael used the phrase, "Make that Change" that is a choice people must make within themselves. If they chose not to or see no need for change, no one can convince them of it. They will see what is in their nature to see. As good as our intent is to try and convince others, we are to no avail, met with continual criticism and hatred. I'm convinced that anyone with a change of heart toward Michael did so by much soul searching and research of their own doing and not thru heated and hateful debate as is seen online and in person. Think of it this way. As strongly as we know Michael is innocent is how strongly they think otherwise. Could they convince us otherwise? Not in an eternity! Those who seek truth will find it. Those who know Love will see Love!!! jmho
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« on: July 16, 2013, 06:56:02 PM »
I have told my heart a dozen different things about why Michael is no longer with us. But none of it, not one single sentence makes it OK. The fact is, HE’s NOT HERE. No where to be seen or heard. We can’t hear those “I Love you Most” or “God Bless You” or “It’s all for Love” or “Make that Change” we can’t hear any of it anymore. We can’t see that smile that was sent straight from Heaven. We can’t watch him hug a child, or give a speech about how we need to Love our children, and what we need to do to make this a better world. Right NOW that is all gone. Will this ever be a better world? He tried his best to make it such, but he couldn't do it by himself. In the history of mankind it has only gotten worse and continues in a downhill spiral. People don’t love each other, I mean REALLY Love each other. Will we ever see him again? With each passing moment my heart says No Not NOW not ever. And then I have to say, “IT’s not right, there is nothing right about it, it should not have to have been this way.” He didn’t deserve to have to walk away from his Children, for anyone or any reason. My heart tells me Paris and Ms Katherine are not playing games. No one but them are living this everyday. They are the only ones that know with out a doubt what happened to that precious man. Everything else that we hope for is just wishful thinking because at the end of the day when we lay our heads down and pray that he is safe, WE DON”T know where he is and what he is doing and if he is happy and healthy. And to ME it hurts like all HELL!! My heart won’t pretend. We had 4 years to get it right and I think we missed!!  Forgive me for spilling the beans, there are just some days it really gets the better of me still.
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« on: July 16, 2013, 05:52:01 PM »
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very interesting that there is a focus on reporting this....
I don't think anyone will ever understand what all Michael had to deal with in his life time. Somehow I get the distinct feeling there were people around him that were interested in more than just his money. And these tweets from Paris make it very clear.
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« on: July 16, 2013, 05:39:35 PM »
the comments about michael not wanting to moonwalk in his 50s got me thinking something ive been thinking for years.. MJ was innovative, he wanted to create NEW things, give birth to art, renew himself every once in a while, if not every day, i know i do.. it mustve been in a sense very suffocating knowing your audience expects the same things all over again decade after decade.. I mean moonwalk was something he invented in his early twenties.. it embodied the energy, the vitality and power of a young intense man.. no doubt he still is powerful and very vital, but also a father and a man who's seen it all, he's not a young tiger, but a wise elephant (albeit a very handsome one).. if he kept doing the same things all over again, of course it wont be the same, i mean compare a 25 year old to a 50 year old and there's a difference. it's only natural. of course he can do the moonwalk. no doubt about it. but i bet it gets boring to answer to the same expectations year after year, tour after tour, show after show, for someone as extraordinarily talented and mind-blowingly creative as he is. .. there's so much more in him to share. and now if we think about michael having achieved professionally everything there is to achieve and wanting to move on to films and such. it sort of makes sense to me, him not wanting to moonwalk in his 50s.. the creation is ever-evolving and my thoughts are that he mustve felt a little trapped in his greatness.. maybe that's partly why KOP had to go. to claim his artistic freedom back, without the same wants and needs of his audience that followed him through decades. jmo.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. Secondly Michael's first love was besides his own children, children around the world. I remember the interview with Bashir, he said if something happened and there where no more children on the earth he was DONE! He would jump off a bridge. Maybe music, and concerts and tours would have taken away from things that he wanted to do with children that no one knew about but maybe Katherine.
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« on: July 16, 2013, 09:27:05 AM »
I was wondering about the focus of attention of Front. In relation to the reading I have been doing on ARG's, would this person be a facilitator of the game in some way? They seem to put out a very caring Front....no pun intended, :icon_razz: but that is easy to do online, considering in a 24 hour period that maybe in total 1 to 2 hours is spent randomly replying to people. I haven't fully caught on to Michael's having left, being drawn out into an ARG, but I'm sure as time permits, the more I read here, maybe I can gather some insight. When I typed in "Is there an alternate reality game regarding Michael Jackson's death" this sight comes up at the top and then several hits down the page, but I'm find it hard to figure what is reality and what is the game. :icon_e_biggrin: but OH well, forgive my lack of skills in participation. I will do some reading on this Derick Clontz as time permitting also.
I hope everyone is having a great day. We haven't seen the sun here in three weeks. Times are really strange.
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