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I don't get either what was so wrong with Chappies post it had to be deleted.

ILoveyoumore, the only reason this is bothering me too is because I see no reason for the post to be deleted also, unless it was done by mistake, which probably is more than likely.  I don't want to lose my trust and respect in the administrators of this forum since by deleting Chappie's post, I get the message that someone has something to hide, otherwise the post should be left alone for members to read and decide for themselves what the truth is.......

Here is Chappie's post I'm referring to that was deleted.  As you can see there aren't any links to any other forum in this post. Again I don't know Chappie, I just know that he was a moderator here, I'm not agreeing with his post, I just want us to be able to investigate and find out what the truth is about all this openly as this is a forum for the purpose of investigating Michael's death and getting to the truth without any manipulation and censorship...........

Curls, thanks for your reply, but no, the post I'm referring to had nothing to do with your post.  It was posted by Chappie and it did not contain any links to any other forums.  It did not include anyone else's posts either.  That's why I mentioned secrecy and censorship in my previous post. I understand about keeping the forum clean and free of trolls, but at the same time we are here to investigate, ask questions and find out what the truth is.

Souza, did I miss something here? If I did please let me know otherwise I don't understand all the secrecy and censorship?  I understand about keeping the forum clean and free of trolls, but at the same time we are here to investigate, ask questions and find out what the truth is.  I'm not siding with anyone, just want to understand and get to the truth which seems to be getting further away from us every day.........

The only posts removed were by me that involved a banned members thoughts being relayed here. Banned members have no voice here, if they were allowed to have one they wouldn't be banned in the first place. The only other posts removed, or that were edited, were posts linking to a forum run by banned members who have their own agenda to hate on this forum.

Continued from my first post above.  With my post from yesterday, I was only referring to Chappie's post that was deleted and no one else's.  Chappie was a moderator here, I don't know him and I don't even know if he was banned.  But in his post, he was not posting any links to any other forums and like I said, he was a moderator so again I didn't know that he was banned.  I am just trying to get to the truth here like every other member.  I don't have a twitter account, never will.  I don't know of any other forums about Front, I am only a member here and I will not become a member anywhere else.
Chappie mentioned in his post, that is now deleted, that he knew and respected both Souza and Mo and was asking us to not trust and take people's word for something that we have no proof of.  So you understand my confusion about his post being deleted.  As Souza has said we are here to investigate in order to get to the truth and not be a part of manipulation of the truth.

Living in LA and being on pacific time zone, sometimes it gets pretty difficult to catch up with the rest of you who are several hours ahead.  Yesterday just before I went to bed chappie had written a post about Front, Souza and Mo which now seems to be deleted.  He had mentioned that he knew both Souza and Mo and respected both and said he always would.  I don't know chappie I just knew that he was one of the moderators.  In his post he was saying not to simply believe what someone is stating without having proof to support that belief.

We are being lied to everyday by our government, by the media, everything we read and hear has been manipulated to such a degree that the end result has barely any truth in it.

Souza, did I miss something here? If I did please let me know otherwise I don't understand all the secrecy and censorship?  I understand about keeping the forum clean and free of trolls, but at the same time we are here to investigate, ask questions and find out what the truth is.  I'm not siding with anyone, just want to understand and get to the truth which seems to be getting further away from us every day.........

Hi SEHF, this was my full post from yesterday, and thank you for taking the time to reply to me.  Please read the continuation in my next post...........

Living in LA and being on pacific time zone, sometimes it gets pretty difficult to catch up with the rest of you who are several hours ahead.  Yesterday just before I went to bed chappie had written a post about Front, Souza and Mo which now seems to be deleted.  He had mentioned that he knew both Souza and Mo and respected both and said he always would.  I don't know chappie I just knew that he was one of the moderators.  In his post he was saying not to simply believe what someone is stating without having proof to support that belief.

We are being lied to everyday by our government, by the media, everything we read and hear has been manipulated to such a degree that the end result has barely any truth in it.

Souza, did I miss something here? If I did please let me know otherwise I don't understand all the secrecy and censorship?  I understand about keeping the forum clean and free of trolls, but at the same time we are here to investigate, ask questions and find out what the truth is.  I'm not siding with anyone, just want to understand and get to the truth which seems to be getting further away from us every day.........

Quote from MJonmind:

"There's also a distinct possibility that Sony, the Estate and MJ's family are indeed creating a colossal lie, and themselves hired/collaborating/orchestrating the hoax to make money and to enliven the whole music industry. Certainly we've been hearing this dark version of what happened in MJ's life and on June 25/09 many times, but pushed it all away because we believed MJ is alive and directing this show."

I have been worrying about this also, it seems like once Michael was out of the picture, EVERYONE is just so busy making money off of him, writing books about him, doing interviews about him, filing bogus suits against him, singing his songs, dancing like him, copying him, media and tabloids mentioning his name just for the sake of grabbing attention and ratings including making up lies about him..............

Also from MJonmind:

"MJ may or may not be alive, but I'm starting to feel this is more likely intended to be another Elvis situation, with a perpetual conspiracy theory going forever that he is alive but never confirmed."

I fear this too as long as everyone else continues to make money that is all they care about...........

Souza, I think you misunderstood me.  I don't think Michael is dead because of Front. I respect you and your determination, I wish I was that determined too!!!
But sometimes I get the sense that you may know more than you are telling us, and I do wish with all my heart that you are right about Michael being alive.  I just sense that you may have access to more info. than most of us here, and if that's the case, I wish you would put us out of our misery and let us in on it too.......

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I understand thanks, but I was referring to the Michael is alive part :)
I mean, if Front isn't real, then TS isn't also. HE was the man referring to Front as MJ in one of his topics, right? So that makes TS a fraud 2.....

And now Back (out of all names) is saying Front isn't real :S

I don't get it. But maybe it's because i'm tired hahaha

Anyhow, thanks "Back" for giving me a huge headache!  >:( lol

Ohhhhh! I know because I have always known, not because of TS, not because of Front but because his death makes no sense. TS said from the start he was not MJ.

Souza with all due respect, neither did Marilyn Monroe's death, Princess Diana's death, Whitney Houston's death, Peter Lopez's death (and the list goes on) make any sense even to this day............
I agree with Do's most recent post that we don't even know who's behind this hoax, this has always been in the back of my mind, always nagging at me.....

My goal here (like all of you) is to find out the truth about what happened on 6/25/09.  Michael was so tortured by media and tabloids in such an unjustified way that I want to be here when we find out that he outsmarted them and beat them to the punch.............

Sounds like a normal teenager.

Exactly.  At this age, they need some freedom to explore new things and meet new people in order to learn and grow.

Michael Jackson's eldest son Prince rebelling against Jackson family?

Michael Jackson's eldest son Prince is reportedly keen to leave the family mansion and set-up a home for himself.

According to some family members, Prince, 16, has been keeping late hours and ignoring the requests of his grandmother and guardian, Katherine, reported New York Post.

The youngster has a monthly allowance of USD 66,000.

"He's a renegade kid. No holds barred. He's up and out at all times of the night, and I'm concerned, and I think everyone around the situation has to be worried what could happen to this kid," Post said quoting a family source.

Prince often exits the mansion without security and is regularly spotted by paparazzi with girlfriend and schoolmate Remi Alfalah, 17, a princess from a royal Kuwaiti family, the source claimed.

Prince and siblings Paris and Blanket are heirs to Michael Jackson's fortune, estimated at more than USD 1 billion.

Prince is reportedly also keen to marry his girlfriend Remi just to get away from his relatives. The two first met two years ago at the private Buckley School in Sherman Oaks, California.

"He says he has his own money and he can take care of himself. Someone needs to act fast before this thing becomes more of a nightmare," the family source added.

Jackson went out of his way to keep his children out of media glare even making them wear a mask. But, media focus has increased since his death in 2009.

His daughter Paris, 15, is recovering after a suicide attempt in June this year. The children have also been at the centre of a fight between Jackson's siblings and his estate over the singer's will, which leaves everything to his kids.

http://www.indianexpress.com/news/michael-jackson-s-eldest-son-prince-rebelling-against-jackson-family-/1160283/

Did you guys hear the two 7's too?  Have you seen that commercial on TV too, it's been showing for quite some time now.......

Blankie, yes very strange indeed.

Applehead, I listened to the tape again and he mentions #7 twice.  At about 2:56 he says #7 and after he's done, at about 3:25 he says #7 again and it sounds as if the tape was stopped and restarted or just engineered to sound that way, there seems to be  a break there between the two 7's.

At the end when he says "Now you've heard the message the rest is entirely up to you", and goes on to say "stay thirsty my friends" there is a beer commercial on TV where the guy who's talking about a brand of beer (can't remember which one) at the end of the commercial he says "stay thirsty my friends"............
What the ............????

Paris was snapped on July 18 at the school's graduation ceremony – surrounded by newfound friends who have shared similar struggles, as they bid farewell some of the school's alumni.

Graduation ceremonies are held mostly at the end of May, and may be beginning of June.  I don't know of any graduation ceremonies that are held in July........

Take a look at these 2 sentences:

But his plans fell apart after he was hit by allegations of child sex abuse in the mid 1990s.

However after the Jordie Chandler sex case, some of his backers and his focus switched away from that.

This is one of the several and main reasons why "they" came up with those allegations, they didn't want Michael to go into movies and have any type of power in that industry too............

He is clearing AEG of all wrongdoing and blaming Michael and Michael's family (he's trying to).  He mentioned both Kenny and Frank in a very negative light that Michael didn't trust them and hated them.  Well, Frank has passed on, can't defend himself anymore and Kenny is not an AEG employee, he is hired on a per job basis to produce/direct a concert/tour (taking all the blame away from AEG).  I was waiting for him to mention Randy Phillips since he is the overseer of everything and the one responsible if and when they lose the case.