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Hoax Videos / *Need insight on new Jordache w/Heidi Clum commercial *
« on: November 15, 2013, 12:09:07 PM »
First and foremost haven't been on in awhile, I've been reading in my spare time but as im 7months pregnant with a 8month newborn I get busy, lol.

OK so I everybody. I was doing my housewifely duties, and came across a commercial on ABC 7 I'm in NYC. The commercial is of jordache skinny Jean, with Heidi clum singing a snazzy version (which I'm greatly fond of) of staying ALIVE. Yeah yeah Kiwi people are allowed to say alive in America. But...when she sings staying aaallliivvveee, zombies casually dance across the screen, yeah probably because they are dead and refuse to rest in peace, but it stroke me because it was thriller-esk. Then the spectaculer Charlie chaplin character dances across as well, now at this point I'm like,  OK zombies yeah, Charlie Chaplin? We all know mjs fascination with Charlie Chaplin, the prankster he was. The whole commercial gives off a snazzy mj style if you ask me. The beat boxing, the Bee gees song! Mj and the bee gees :th_bravo: MJ always wears his pants pretty skinny.andthis stroll down the block was coreographed by Fatima Robinson, a coreograher that famous for "remember the time". Choreographer for a stroll down the block, lol. :smiley-vault-misc-150:

So without further adu!

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So your thoughts guys, I would love to know.  Hope this is in the right area aswell didn't see an area for suspisious housewife section lol.

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I'm not'one to always chime in, but these pass few days have been so eventfull!  :multiplespotting: its extremely exciting! I think this situation is completely unreal. Why would they send a"suicidal" teen to the place where her beloved father ''pass''. Non-suicidal individuals would feel compelled to sadness in a place where a close family member passed, its grief that possibly wouldnt go away for years . A child with daily reminders of her her fathers passing is not going to be comfortable with staying at the hospital ''he would later pass'' in.

And for the tmz wording. Where he would later on pass away. They say it like he never passed on June 25th to me. Like its still in the future. Passed is the correct term for something that happened in the pass. Weird.

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Its a pretty random tweet, on topic to what most of us were on here discussing.  :Pulling_hair: I'm ripping my hair out wanting more clues!  Anytime this year he could bam we don't know if it'll be something that coressponds with dr Murray, spring, or June 25, his birthday (rebirth), this is it premiere Oct..28. Or Christmas there are many days this year that's specific to the hoax. Its a matter of keeping us on our toes :moonwalk_: hehehe...

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^^^ I wouldn't rush to say she's confirming anything. Maybe just playing with us, seeing as 4 years and 1,2,3,4 at the start of 'This is It' have been discussed here in the past few days?? Or even simple coincidence?? Or not even Paris at all (I wouldn't know as I don't follow Twitter)!!
Hey everybody! As of late there have been some eye opening stuff! But on this topic, that Paris Jackson twitter find is amazing! It could be a leap saying definately its a confirmation, BUT, she has addressed many times that's she's paying attention, like with her, I love the #mjfam Tweet. We also have to remember there is no coincidences... and its definetely Paris Jackson's twitter, its verified. This could be an amazing clue.  :omg:  and the fact that the tweet was deleted afterward,probably means we have to pay extra close attention. Thriller4ever! Amazing!

Regarding the tweet, I really think its about TII, maybe saying were on the write path. Also that totally seems like a MJ thing to say. Seems very fishy.

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Other Theories / Re: Comeback?
« on: January 10, 2013, 04:23:21 AM »
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I think that if he lives he will not come back.

Perhaps we also have an indirect comeback? His music has meant a lot, maybe he continues to work as a songwriter for other artists under a different name? So we have something from him and he unconsciously. Something from us

At the memorial, again the image of Liberian Girl was shown as he sits behind the camera, there are some signs (perhaps even from himself) that he lives "I live and I'm here forever" .. Would be for me sign, "I live, I work behind the scenes on," so he really lives yet but just behind the curtain as a songwriter, composer, writer and everything he wants and does not really obvious, is to just stay incognito, I hope know what I mean. He has the reins in his hands, but not on stage "behind" the stage

I hope he's healthy and happy and not exposed to pressure

sorry for my bad english  :-\

Welcome LULU :bearhug: so funny because that's what I call my unborn daughter. I'm naming her Luisiana. I'm new as well. I believe that MJ will eventually comeback. We mustnt forget the clues given from the Conrad Murray trail. I still believe the taped audio of Micheal was another, "from the horses mouth type of clue", the trail clues are very important, this is where he makes it pretty apparent his desire to comebck and give the greatest show EVER,! Lolz which it will be. The most fascinating man on earth, we can't lie , there has never been another person on earth that grabs the attention, good or bad, by so many people, stops them where they stand by just standing there! For 2 minutes! The trail also gave us a look into 6/25/09, showing that pretty much nothing added up, things were tampered with, and fake mj. Oh and that he was in extreme great health, dispite what the media has said about his declining health in the pass 7 years, and multiple plastic surgeries via autopsy. Maybe we should revisit the trail clues. Testimonies and other strange hapenings.

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: January 04, 2013, 12:23:36 PM »
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@skyways: I almost fell off my chair  :affraid: reading your 3 consecutive posts on the previous page  :icon_lol: I'm so glad I'm not alone thinking like that!  :icon_e_wink:


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  Hello evrybody,  HAappy New Years. All this talk about WMA is very interesting. Because looking at fronts message, referring to the the part about seeing him of late, that fits the WMA picture perfectly,the curtains being parted, I mean the picture says so many words. If you looked at the slide show that's was on the official site, all the the artist were basically in performance, except for Michael, who was just walking politely through parted curtains...
 
Also I looked up the WMA, to learn a bit more about it, and have learn a bit more. It was founded by Prince Albert II of Monaco, who happens to be good friends with Michael. This award show is usually held in Monte Carlo. Though when it is not held in Monte Carlo, it was held in 2004 Las vegas,  then 2005 california, then 2006 London england, went back to Monte carlo in 2007 and 2008, no WMA in 2009,  :smiley-vault-misc-150: and returned 2010 in Monte Carlo. It hasn't been one since. Until this expected Spring.... all of those places it occurs are places where michael has strong connections. He's very respected at this award ceremony, He has 16 awards totally, the most of any male artist, mariah Carey tops him with 17. BUt since he's been dead to the world for 3 1/2 years it would be weird to put him as a ad for the upcoming awards how. I'm not complaining I love seeing Michael everywhere possible, but strange of them to do that.  Maybe we should pay close attention to Monte Carlo as well. Its about to get real interesting...
Hello @Kiwigon and welcome! Awesome post!! You mentioned stuff that didn't cross my mind! You're right!! Michael has always been well received at WMAs in Monte Carlo and in good relations with the Prince! Who knows! Maybe something is truly in the work there!
Interesting your story about how you were so close to meet him in London back in 2009.
Your username makes me think of KIWI and of Front's phrase "monkey needs more kiwi" loll Or is it KI WIG ON ? loll
Sorry I was just playing around ...as your username sounds funny and intrigues me...


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So I've come to the realization that I'm okay with the fact that BAM hasn't happened yet. It keeps the hoax going and I've just realized how much of a grip it has on me. I was in the ER last night with chest pains and tingling in my limbs, and the only thing I could think about was the straight bars on the stretcher from the autopsy photo and how the bars on the stretcher that I was on were curved. I leaned over the side of the stretcher to see if I could figure out the name of the manufacturer and sure enough it was Stryker! The nurses were looking at me like I was crazy because I was taking pictures of the stretcher. :icon_lol: I will post the picture later; I'm having some issues with my Internet connection.
you just gave me the best laugh i've had from here in a while. so glad your ok
^^ OMG!  :icon_lol: I was also LMAO about that part  :icon_lol:
Poor you! good you're ok and able to tell us about it lol Please, @StrangerInCalifornia ,DO share THAT pic with us, ok? loll  :icon_lol: :icon_lol:



@sim, THank you! I really just need Michael to be with us again, so I like to look in all the cracks and crevices,so to speak. Lolz that and the fact I'm a stay at home mom. My nickname is actually Kiwi and last name is Gonzaga so kiwigon, came lolz. I was really close to meeting him, and it sucked that I was in europe alone, which would have been perfect if I was to see michael because it can get a bit hectic around him don't need to worry about loved ones getting caught up. I'll be giving birth to my daughter in the next 2 months, and will be in the hospital looking at every stretcher now lolz.  :thjajaja121: giving me ideas!

Another thing, if Michael was to bam at the award show, wouldn't make any difference of what he used to do at the award shows. He's the king of what he does! He always overshadows everybody regardless. If he goes in the middle the end whichever, that's what he's always done. Til this day the Superbowl XXVll was about Michael ask anybody who won, they couldnt tell you, they just know Michael was there and gave one hell of a show. I think the event that he does bam at, he's probably going to want it to be internationally televised. If the fans don't know where to look, what's the percentage of fans that will miss it. The "deceased" artist can't make an event for himself because that takes away from a bam if we're totally prewarned, it has to be a shocking surprise for it to work they way I think he would probably want it. That's why we're given clues so we can get an idea, but not told the date. He has to play with his jacket and stare, and stand in complete stillness, get us all riled up, have us screaming for 2minutes straight then, hit us with Jam! Lolz in this case Bam!and during the wait some people cant take it, they pass out, and fast foward the tape, but to get the full effect of all the greatness you have to wait it out. The result is much more worth it. Point being the WMA is televised to almost all continents, like everybody is watching,plus the WMA is a charity event as well, charities Michael supports with Africa and AiDS, it just seems very Michael like. Regardless we have to pay close attention to this event...

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: January 03, 2013, 10:01:55 PM »
thanks for the welcomes, I've been following the hoax since 2009, I was completely heartbroken at the fact Michael wouldn't be with us, it tore me to pieces. I was at work when it happened toppled over with disbelief, whilst my phone goes off in a rage with text and calls from everybody I knew. The radio (I worked in the JFK post service building) playing Micheal Jackson "don't stop til you get enough" in the background. I had already made arrangements for the night to make an extra $1000 dollars off the books, so pulling myself through this arrangement was excrusiating, my mind wasn't there and everywhere I turned was Michael, his music his face on TV. While i stood stranded in the middle of the street at 11pm that night, a car rolls pass playing the same song, and I knew something wasnt right. June 25 2009 I was getting ready, making money, by any means, because in July I was going to be flying to Europe for a months stay, I just knew I was going to see Michael during my last leg of the trip. It was a tour through Europe starting in switzerland, going through several other countries Germany France to name a few, and it ended with a 7 day stay in London. He made those speeches about this being it, and I was going to be there while it was it. Sadly, I didn't get that chance to see the king of pop, as I walked the streets of London, alone with no familiar faces those last 7 days the feeling of England was so hurt and sad,. Again Michael everywhere as if he were their king, their prince, his posters and logos right next to the queens, he was the only familiar face, like family almost, heart broken and just plain devastated. I bought a few magazines, posters, large ones too, I struggled to get those home unscaved lolz, but it hurt, for a long time. But knew, it was odd there was no funeral, not much of any explanations, what was going on! I got back to the states, and information started to roll in and that's when i became a believer.

 Also I would like to add, that I too believe the WMA is just a circuit for more information. Big information. Don't think BAM will actually happen at an award ceremony but there are so many clues pointing to the WMA being an iceberg to a titanic like hoax, if you know what I mean.definetly a program to be paying close attention too, as we look closer into the clues given. When it all goes down, I think it'll be going down fast.that would also go perfect with the 4 years to get it right, spoken from the king himself. Can't get any better than from the king himself...

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Back/Front discussions / Re: Official back & Front thread
« on: January 03, 2013, 12:13:15 PM »
  Hello evrybody,  HAappy New Years. All this talk about WMA is very interesting. Because looking at fronts message, referring to the the part about seeing him of late, that fits the WMA picture perfectly,the curtains being parted, I mean the picture says so many words. If you looked at the slide show that's was on the official site, all the the artist were basically in performance, except for Michael, who was just walking politely through parted curtains...
 
Also I looked up the WMA, to learn a bit more about it, and have learn a bit more. It was founded by Prince Albert II of Monaco, who happens to be good friends with Michael. This award show is usually held in Monte Carlo. Though when it is not held in Monte Carlo, it was held in 2004 Las vegas,  then 2005 california, then 2006 London england, went back to Monte carlo in 2007 and 2008, no WMA in 2009,  :smiley-vault-misc-150: and returned 2010 in Monte Carlo. It hasn't been one since. Until this expected Spring.... all of those places it occurs are places where michael has strong connections. He's very respected at this award ceremony, He has 16 awards totally, the most of any male artist, mariah Carey tops him with 17. BUt since he's been dead to the world for 3 1/2 years it would be weird to put him as a ad for the upcoming awards how. I'm not complaining I love seeing Michael everywhere possible, but strange of them to do that.  Maybe we should pay close attention to Monte Carlo as well. Its about to get real interesting...

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