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« on: November 24, 2013, 11:11:21 PM »
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« on: September 10, 2013, 04:35:18 AM »
I understand that i'm most likely unwelcome here now :smiley-vault-misc-150:
But I wanted to interject some thoughts.
I believe the main thing Non-believers really find it hard to believe it's a hoax is because of all the legal things.
1. The Coroner signing off on the death certificate
2. The amount of police that were there for crowd control the day of the memorial
3. The Autopsy report, signed to say it was true/declaration.
4. The documentation that's filed with the supreme court and the case number being on their website.
5. Conrad Murrays Licenses being found on the medical board websites
6. The swat team searching Murrays medical offices
7. Elissa Fleaks reports
8. The real Judge, Baliffs and court room
9. The legally filed appeals of Conrad Murray
10. The Katherine Jackson Vs Aeg legally filed documents.
The list goes on.
Who has the connections to gain this kind of cooperation? Either there is federal involvement or someone owes someone a favor, someone who knows people in those higher places that that organize it.
Has background profiles been done on the 'players' that Michael Jackson was around/involved with before and on juen 2009? Their histories, who they know, where they worked? It might yeild some answers to the hows on the legal aspect of it.
the strangeness of everything else leads to his alive, but the hurdle is How did they manage to pull up all the legal stop signs that ordinarily could not be done?
Thanks for taking the time in reading.
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« on: June 09, 2013, 03:54:42 AM »
NO ONE HERE KNOWS IF MICHAEL IS ALIVE, NOT ME, NOT YOU, NOR ANYONE ELSE WHO IS A 'HOAXER'. It could be a complete fabrication of the truth and in fact Michael really died that day. I don't say that lightly, its just that there's not one piece of absolute clear and solid evidence that would stand up in a court of law to say that he didn't die.
Sorry completely disagree
Peace.
There in itself lays the problem. There is no conclusive evidence Michael Jackson is alive. There is plenty of evidence that says he is dead. Every clue that’s been found is just perception based. It is dependent upon how you see something rather than it being a realistic clue. How many Professional doctors? Coroners? Police? EMT’s? Lawyers? Judges are here? How many of these professions have voiced their experience in these fields and pointing out the clues and confirming that these clues proves his alive? Unless you want to tell me that every doctor, nurse, coroner, judge, detective, EMT and lawyers through out the whole world is in on this hoax? It’s rather egotistical to think that you all can do a better job than all the professionals in the world. What a world we must live in if the professionals can not see the truth like the average, inexperienced in these field can see. So his alive, get digging with the all the Doctors usernames and quotes on the internet that has stated the same as you have all done, prove it to me, Prove it to the non believers and prove it to yourselves. This is what real investigation is about, getting the opinions from real professionals in the field of expertise on each of the “clues” where are the lawyers that back up the claim on the will? Where is the coroners backing up your clues on the autopsy picture? Where are they for the death certificate? Where is the birth certificate that shows Michael Jacksons middle name? WHERE?! Speculations is all you have. NOTHING more. Hard evidence. I can’t comprehend how people who haven’t gone through university to practise law, any of the medical fields or criminal medical field can sit there smirking thinking they know better than anyone else. The reason no one has come and given their expert opinion that give weight too the “clues” is because they are working from facts, from practise, and Fans are working from perception. No wonder Non-believers think Believers are crazy, what’s happened to Paris and how you have all reacted about it, has shown me just what Non-believers see when they interact with a Believer. it has opened my eyes and now I’m questioning the hoax itself. There is no line that’s tangible between reality and fantasy, it’s like fantasy has taken over and reality was left behind a long time ago and I know, I know you’re going to say that’s what Michael wanted, you see, that is the beauty of the world you’ve created, it’s all explained away easily by saying that this is how Michael wanted it, a “movie” to take us where we have never been. blah blah blah, you pass it all off as intended fantasy, acting and how ever else that will take you away from truth. Why haven’t anyone here gone to their own doctors and asked them questions, showing them pictures? Why haven’t anyone gone to a lawyer and asked about the legality of the will and if Joe can be used rather than Joesph? Why is everyone so stuck on the whole Joe name when no one has eye balled his Birth Certificate? I think no one has done any REAL investigating is because in their hearts they are afraid of what they might find, what the professionals will tell them, if you don’t ask, you can keep living the fantasy you’ve created. You speak of words lying, you speak of family playing along, but you take their words when it works to your favour. You take latoya’s word over his mothers about his name, but you won’t take LaToya's words concerning Paris. You take Fronts words when you can use it to your advantage, You ignore them when they are not to your advantage and the world you’ve created. All that you have is selective perception, you see only what you want to see. Explain to me, how you’re different to those who say Michael Jackson is a child molester? Their perception is selective also, because they hate him, they see what they want to see in the media and in the transcripts about his guilt they ignore the whole picture. You are taking what you want also, and ignoring the rest like it doesn’t exist. Words pop out and you form sentences and then fill in the blanks to how you would like it to go. I do not expect you to suddenly realize any of this and agree with me, I do hope though that people will question it further and look more deeper than what has been looked at, because everything has been discussed and looked at a shallow level through internet searches, through comparing, why not look at other cases, not selective cases but just any case and I know already that the ones you do not like, you will dismiss and just point out the ones that fit in to your world/fantasy, Because Selective perception will prevent you from actually looking at it from a realistic view, and that infallible structure you have built about everything being an act, will keep you snuggled up inside your fantasy away from the harsh truths. What I see is, people who are too scared to look at it in a whole picture, they are afraid their fantasy will crash to the ground, because they do not want to believe his dead and are so scared that they turn and run the other way just in case.... your minds have taken you to a place where you don’t have to face that possibility and be forced to accept it, No one can evict you from that place because you change the rules as you go along, it’s infallible because you can argue everything as acting. These “investigations” are emotionally charged and not being seen through an unbiased view. These “hoax glasses” are really symbolic shields against any possibility of him being dead, they allow you to go into a world of your choosing as a collective like those virtual games that use the head gear/glasses. When ever there is an article that you do not like, when a lot of people are speechless, the “hoax glasses” come on and then all these “connections” start happening at rapid speed, people are convincing one another than it’s fake. If everything was so obvious the world would see it without needing to wear these “hoax glasses” the mere fact that someone here claim that the information is there, very clearly and its the none believers fault if they aren’t looking... then in another thread someone says to put on “3d hoax glasses” it is actually conflicting against each statement. I also noticed that the “Hoax Glasses” have become “3D” to me that suggests that there is symbolically now 3 shields' in place where reality can not touch the fantasy/virtual world you’ve all created. If this isn’t true, then I challenge everyone to step back to day one and into each article and start listing all the evidence to suggest he died, instead of looking for hope of him being alive, go into it like a non believer, argue against your own theory. Then Debunk the list. Go to professionals, compare it to other cases, MANY other cases, FACE his DEATH then come back to the Alive theory. When you have debunked it PROPERLY, you will not fear seeing some things as real and others as hoax related, you won’t have to worry about opening a door and being spooked by a “truth” because I believe each one of you do deep down believe his dead but are unwilling to face that possibility and so to protect yourselves you just declare everything fake too scared to venture out into the real world fearing you will face your worst fear, that you won’t ever be able to walk back into the safety of the virtual world you have created. But reality is this. Michael Jackson was/is a genius but he didn’t have control of the government departments to make a hoax, he can’t control everyone, including the media, if he could control the media then he would have done so a long time ago in the 80’s or even in 2003. He can’t control everything. He is one person, and he certainly could not do it just for a movie. Besides that, The clues are not conclusive because if there would be a lot of information from lawyers, police, detectives, judges, prosecutors, Doctors, coroners, EMT’s blogging about it, or they would be here telling you just what is wrong with how he looks in the autopsy, how the trial was wrong, where the investigations were inadequate and what ever alleged “clue” You’re clinging on with dear life to a person you do not know if he is alive or dead, You have formed a relationship with him in your minds, where he is interacting with you, laughing with you, winking at you. You’re positioned yourself beside him, laughing with him at how people are falling for stories in the news, too afraid to step off and join the people who is inside the hoax, You do not want to go into the roller coaster and experience it because you don’t want to be seen as a fool. You each also have some kind of expectation that Michael Jackson will reward you for doing what you’re doing but most of you have said michael is bringing the world an adventure, to escape to, if you believe that, why are you standing to the side of it? Why aren’t you inside this alleged “fake” world, experiencing it? why are you not inside “enjoying the adventure” you re basically sneak peaking at the presents before the day you’re suppose to open them so when the day comes you already know what you’ve got. If it is true that this is all an adventure, then it’s safe to say that everyone including myself are actually doing what Michael Jackson wanted. Experiencing it like we’re suppose to, by believing it. While you’re like the boring people who stand to the side who won’t dive in and have fun with everyone else, and allow the emotions to take over kind of like the spoil sports. Just my opinion obviously. *shrugs* I still believe Attempted suicide no matter who it is, no matter what you wish to think about it should not be taken lightly without proof that it's fake. SOLID tangible proof, No one can demand you think that its real, but it's inappropriate for people to be clapping and congratulating on acting until the appropriate time to which is when it's been clearly stated by Paris or her family that it was this and it deeply hurts Paris to the point of some deep emotional trauma you won't able to take it back, it will be too late. Why would you mess with something so serious when all you have is your speculation/perception only to back you up? If it's an art form, then it would be known, Marilyn Manson doing it is much different because when you enter his concert, you know it's a show, when you hear the lyrics you know it's a song, you know it's not reality. This is different because it's not on a stage, it's not in a movie, it's not in lyrics. It's in the media. Of course the media tells lies but they also report the truth, They don't ignore the truth and tell packs of lies, they report BOTH truth and lies. Just because the family are speaking about this, it doesn't make it apart of the show. They could be 1) reassuring the fans who are worried 2) Using it to their advantage depending on what you receive of the rest of the news. AND concerning the ignoring of AEG trial. Only one place is ignoring the court case and that could be for several reasons. TMZ and AEG are connected and they have been warned NOT to cover it. Or it's not apart of the hoax so it's not to be reported on, or they can't go into the trial as there is only a certain amount of media allowed. There is many reasons so trying to suggest that everything outside of the law suit is fake is a bit presumptuous and has absolutely no foundation to it!
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« on: June 06, 2013, 08:44:27 PM »
Quote from: Australian MJ BeLIEver on June 06, 2013, 11:03:31 PM
Rofl, after all the judgements on the other thread.
Thanks for the message CM! Love u x
This obviously identifies the story as false!
100% without a doubt!
Keep up the acting Paris!! We know all this must have a purpose! Oh, But of course! You just saw one side which your addled minds are ignoring the other perspectives and possibilities.. Sorry but someone needs to actually put some sensibility into this. Why don't you all take a step back. Look at this from another perspective. Murray = A medium for another steered to convey to Paris her fathers love for her. Maybe Michael Is responding to her suicide attempt and reaffirming his love for her and telling her if she needs him she can call him! and reassuring her that he is always there even when he isn't and that he loves her very much, and may very well be giving her an encrypted message via the reminders of the letters and a conversation they had. How the Fudge does this confirm it is a hoax? Oh wait... Is Murray/Michael directing everything at you? is this a case of being self absorbed again? I really stand by my words in the other thread. NOW more than ever. This Forum needs to change it's name from Investigators because this is CLEARLY NOT investigating. There is NOTHING different between you and the Tabloids. They hounded Michael, lied and just kept reporting and seeing ONE side, NOT ONE of them entertained both sides of the coin. You lot, are doing NO DIFFERENT you entertain a side that best fits YOU. The only difference is, You lot are FOR Michael Jackson and they are AGAINST. The actions I see here, the mentality here, the way you look at things, really isn't so different. I seriously question the mental stability here. Absolutely appalling how the people of this forum is acting. You give a child next door much more credit and much more support than a girl you all say you adore with all your hearts, like a daughter. I am so glad she's not your daughter because what a sorry state that would be. I reiterate what I said in the other thread, I stand by my judgement towards those who think this is fake. The time to think it's fake is in HINDSIGHT IF it is officially CLEAR and DIRECT in the ENGLISH language that it was a fake When Michael Jackson or Paris Jackson stands in clear view and states to the world “It was a fake story” because until that point it’s all just a point of view and speculation linking any words that suits what you want to believe, it is extremely inhumane of people to make light of this without any direct proof! I hope one day you come to realize the enormous amount of damage you could be doing and feel the shame for your reactions to this because if this is shown to show it's real, you will be the ones who will feel red faced and totally appalled at your own encouragement to her attempting suicide and hurting herself. For those who believe it's real, they will not have red faces, They will not feel shame even if it turns out fake, we have said NOTHING we wouldn't say if it was real and the only emotion we will feel is relieved that Paris was not emotionally hurting for unknown reasons. You have a lot to loose if you're wrong. We have NOTHING. I urge people to ignore Bec, AussieBeliever others who propagate that everything is in the hoax, Use your own instincts, Do not come searching for answers to make it OKAY, Look in the mirror, search your hearts, and BELIEVE your own instincts. NOT someone who you do not know, NOT those who you have no idea of their sanity being stable or not. Looking for the answers in others is a grave mistake because they aren't the ones who will be comforting you if they turn out to be wrong,You will be the one who deals with your own words and actions from listening to them, they will be hiding away to lick their own wounds they inflicted on themselves for how they reacted to each of the serious event that has happened and may happen in the future. When in doubt go with what YOUR FEEL is right, NOT what others feel is right and if you need to turn to others in the forum for reassurance then you obviously need to take some time to trust yourselves and your own intuition. People can not tell you what to believe and think, You have to do that your self. You have to trust that you can make your own mind up from what you perceive do not be lead by other peoples views, you can not blame them if it is wrong because you took their view and made it yours. Trust and confidence is important. To rely on others is not healthy. NEVER EVER make light of anything to do with suicidal, ESPECIALLY when all you have is speculation and words that can be taken in MANY different ways. I hope that Michael is watching how you are treating his daughters suicide attempt as a joke, I hope he realizes just how heartless people can be, they pretend to be about love, but they really aren't.. Don’t be lead by the nose. Lead by example! Be the example! Show Children and Adults alike that Suicide is a SERIOUS topic that should NEVER under any circumstance be a joke. I remind you. Hindsight is the only time to laugh at it, when it has been stated clearly in words by Paris or Michael that its was not real. Until that time. No one can be sure, No one has the ability to know except those directly involved and NO ONE should be trivializing it for any reason.
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« on: June 06, 2013, 07:04:18 AM »
Right now I feel ashamed for being within and associating the Hoax community that I have decided to disassociate as much as possible. .
I don't understand the extreme carelessness people are being here, Not one person knows this is actually a fake story, NO ONE here has any means to prove with substantial real evidence and yet I see many speaking about it like it's NOTHING. I’m glad everything in real life is entertainment for you lot who are without a doubt that it’s for entertainment or some other “meaningful” reason within the hoax.
For shame.
Are you so paranoid of being looked at as a fool for believing any "bad news" story of the Jacksons that you are prepared to trivialize every circumstance as a fake for the hoax? Why not go further and claim everything to do with Michael Jackson his entire life was a hoax, because there has been "bad news" both before June 2009 and after, the difference is, every single thing is being placed into this “bubble” of being a hoax. Are you so self centred to believe that the lives of the Jacksons is meant for YOUR entertainment considering majority of the population believe his dead, and many others do not visit this forum. Are you so self absorbed that to think its all based on the select few frequent people here?
I think you all who believe this is nothing, need a reality check and gain some respect for the Jackson family, they aren’t immune to life and it’s struggles, they don’t have their emotions all wrapped up safe and sound.
Have you thought about any of this public statements you are making on this forum? If Paris and I believe she did, attempt suicide and reads this thread, what do you think that young girl is going to think? Are you truly that selfish to not care and just keep believing it’s fake to serve your own purpose of keeping your beliefs going that his alive.
First of all, it doesn’t have to mean Michael Jackson is dead. It just means like many normal teenagers in this world, Paris is not coping so well with things and even the most loving parents can’t help and often do not see the signs. She could have a chemical balancing problem and that doesn’t mean Michael Jackson isn’t a loving father, or dead, or not helping her. It just means she has a condition that many teens and adults have.
Regardless to anything, I don’t care if this turns out to be in the hoax, I will not feel like a fool or feel shame for believing it because this is a very very serious thing, I will feel that my morals were still intact to take it serious enough to care about her well being.
I feel that a lot of people don’t want the fabric of the “hoax” to vanish, and if they believe for a moment this is real, then the hoax is over and will have to come to terms with Michael Jackson being dead. But like i said. Believing this is real, doesn’t make Michael Jackson dead, it just makes Paris a teenager with some problems that may not have anything to do with any situations going on at the moment.
it pains me to read these comments where you blow it off as nothing and yet you have absolutely no evidence to show that and yet will still blow it off. How is that REALLY caring about Paris? That doesn’t look like care at all, and maybe, just maybe you should think about another perspective. Is this a test to see who actually cares about his children? You all want to talk others and yourselves into reasons why it would be a hoax, from awareness of suicide to evening the score on the law suit i,e Wade but not one of you have wondered if this is a test to the hoaxers and the see if they really do care. After all you have taken zero seriously this whole time. Like i said before I believe this is all true, very real and My heart breaks for Paris and I send her lot’s of love. If this turns out to be apart of the hoax, well at least I know that no matter what, I take a matter of suicide seriously and do not blow it off.
Seriously, Think about your actions, think about what message you are each sending out there into the public eye to Paris and to other kids and adults who are thinking of suicide. This is a serious. Not fun and games or entertainment by any stretch of any imagination and if you think it’s entertainment then you truly need to look in the mirror and re-evaluate who you are and what colour your soul is.
This is definitely not a time for Pride regardless to how this turns out.
Sick of everything being a joke you most of you, You seem to pull out any, ANY way possible to explain away things and yet you call yourselves investigators. I see no investigations going on, just a lot of assumptions. This time, I won’t be coming back. I have washed my hands with this and how people take and handle the seriousness of the things that come up. Maybe too much time down the rabbit hole has addled the mind. I don’t know but there is a time for fun and there is a time for seriousness and this is one of those times.
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« on: May 16, 2013, 12:02:37 PM »
The parallels to the accusations made by Jordy Chandler then Gavin are VERY similar to those now being made by Wade:
1. Allegations arose only after seeing a Psychiatrist
2. Wade had "repressed memory" - Jordy had memories only after being given sodium amytal and the idea was put into his head
3. It's all about getting money
4. the media, especially the rabids like Diane Demon etc are salivating over this and the previous allegations
5. They all originally stated many times over how much they adore MJ and how kind he is, he was fun to be around, they loved him like a father figure, he didn't do anything to them etc
6. As someone pointed out, every 10 years a new allegation: 1993, 2003 and 2013
There may be alot more parallels
....have to add 2 more parallels
7. Date of WR civil hearing June 13th ....... same date as the Not Guilty verdict in 2005 trial
8. Tom Mesereau back in the picture :icon_cool:
Hi, I'm just stopping by to add something if it hasn't been added already, I saw that you all had noticed the 13th June on the tmz image, and that the trial ended on 13th June but there is also this from the transcript of the 2005 trial. 19 Q. And with regard to the investigation
20 involving the defendant in this case, Michael
21 Jackson, were you assigned at some point to be a
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22 investigator on that investigation.
23 A. Yes.
24 Q. Do you recall when that was.
25 A. It was June the 13th. It was a Friday.
26 Q. Of what year.
27. A 2003, i'm sorry.
28 Q. All right. And the jurors probably heard
1 this, but we should hear it from you. You
2 participated in some interviews of the Arvizo
3 children; is that correct.
4 A. Yes.
5 Q. And those interviews were videotaped.
6 A. Correct.
7 Q. Now, at some point on November the 18th of
8 2003, did you participate in the execution of a
9 search warrant at Neverland Valley Ranch.
10 A. I did.
11 Q. And what was your role in the execution of
12 the search warrant.
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Register or Loginunrelated to the trials however which is rather fitting since it's put everyone in a shock. 13 June 1984 - The Jacksons' "State of Shock," 13 June The “Victory Tour” contract was signed Hoping for Victory. That date was lucky for him in 2005, maybe it's a message. I dunno. Anyways I just wanted to add these. ciao
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« on: January 31, 2013, 07:39:28 AM »
About the Joe-Joseph thing, I never participated in a previous discussion about this on this board (I'm only a member for a couple of months), but I had always thought his middle name was Joseph. A few months ago, I wasn't even aware that Joe was also used. Katherine wrote in her book (in the 80ies?) that she named him Michael Joseph. So actually I do think that his real legal name (at least at birth) is Joseph. He might have changed it later though.
Nevertheless, I think there's something strange going on with this name thing. Jermaine stated in his book that Michael's middle name has always been Joe, so he counterdicts his mother there. And if Michael Joe was on Michael's driver's license, why would the coroner's office change this to Joseph?
Larry, you want scientific evidence of the hoax? How about the extra star on the Californian seal at the trial? With no legal seal, no legal trial. And why would the trial not be legal if Michael was really dead? To me that is much much more than a 'whisper' or a 'clue'.
Show me, dont just state it, provide evidence.
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« on: January 04, 2013, 12:19:46 AM »
So this whole saying of "stone face" seems odd to me......so I dug around. Turns out a few different things I found made me
think the TMZ chose that very carefully. There is the region on Mars of the stone face:
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there are the granite cliffs in New Hampshire:
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there is "The Great Stone Face" actor, Buster Keaton:
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*I find him interesting because of Michael's love of film (he was also in an episode of The Twilight Zone)
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he was also in the final episode of the television version of The Greatest Show on Earth:
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there is also Nathaniel Hawthorne's work about The Great Stone Face itself:
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All in all, I think we were given that phrase for a reason.....Michael's face is not all that stone like to me.
A stone face shows no emotion....to me there is plenty of emotion, I am just trying to figure which emotion
I am to see.........any thoughts? Or am I barking up the wrong tree, lol...........
Blessings!
he looks impatient... like he has places to go, people to see and the whole having his picture taken was taking too long, a general annoyance, I see that expression a lot  on another look, is there a slight smirk?
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« on: January 04, 2013, 12:10:51 AM »
MJ's Bam will be it's own event. He doesn't need to ruin anyone else's big event by overshadowing all other artists who are slated to receive awards or perform at an event. I kind of disagree, because he overshadowed Farrah Fawcett's death and didn't suspend his plans, I don't really think anyone can really say what Michael would or would not do, when or how he will BAM, guesses are one thing but to state with surety he would not is another and no one but those in the know with Michael can do/say.
Also if he bam at the end, it would make no difference regardless to BAM before or after the date of the event... on his own stage and date or on a worldwide event... it will still overshadow all celebrities no matter what or when...
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And I would add 3 more things to this possibility of Michael BAMming at WMAs :
1. The ceremony could go normally, with all the artists receiving their well deserved awards, getting the attention and applause and thanking speeches, etc... and at the end, as a "special unexpected surprise to everyone"....tananananaaa ---> BAM ! lol Why not? I can envision that.... But of course nobody knows for sure!
2. All these 3.5 years we've seen proof of how so many celebs being more or less involved or helping Michael's death hoax! Why would they feel bothered if Michael chose to BAM at WMA? On the contrary, I think they would feel honored and thrilled to be part of something like that! I doubt anyone can feel bad or "eclipsed" by Michael! I think Michael is and has always been regarded as THE KING both by his fans but by most artists too! who have been inspired by him! I don't think anyone (besides maybe Madonna loll ) would ever feel jealous / eclipsed or in competition with him lol
3. If one of the reasons why Michael faked his death was to defeat the Music Industry mafia [who destroys almost all artists nowadays], then what other best way to show all artists united by Michael against the MONSTER than a world wide event like the WMAs ?
Exactly, at the end of the event no way takes away the spotlight to everyone who got awards... they will still get their articles in the media, but like any other time Michael was to BAM, he would also be spread across front pages.. I don't read the new papers and so fourth, do award winners get a front page of the papers?
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« on: January 04, 2013, 12:03:47 AM »
Leilani- Dear? Really. I don't like your attitude.
I'm all for debate, but pigeon holing I am never down for and you've attempted it on me twice now. That's very manipulative. You tried to make it look like I used what MJ "would or would not do" as support for my debate point, which I did not, and then you tried to make it look like I am having an issue with your different point of view, which never happened. I clearly debated your point and then, quite separately (as in PS.) addressed the issue I had, with has nothing to do with your different opinion. I think it's you who needs to take a step back, leilani.
My Real Attitude is just fine, I meant it in kind way, because I felt a temper was rising with you and so I spoke like I would in real life, not in any kind of attitude, however I don't know what attitude you have applied to me so I can't speak on that. I assure you, my attitude is calm, collective, and no way negative. Now i'm being a bit negative because you are doing something I've seen you do on many occasions and made everyone involved the villains. You're not the victim, you stated something in a very matter of fact way that would give no room for any one to debate other wise. Now I do apologies if my own opinion annoyed you, but I don't apologies for actually posting it because it is indeed my thoughts. Stop making yourself the victim, it was not just said to you, it was said to everyone who would read here, at times we all think we know what Michael would or would not do and it was not directed at you.. However you gave the occasion to say it, I wouldn't say it when no one is speaking of anything to do with it, I wouldn't say it while people are joking around having fun and not even mentioning anything touching the topic. I really don't care for your tone or attitude, you feel bruised when ever someone points something out on what you say and disagree with it, you take it as a very personal blow and then give personal blows to the persona accusing them of being negative. I am not going down this rabbit hole any further with you, because this isn't a private message, this is a community forum and it's about Michael Jackson and not about Leilani and Bec.
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« on: January 03, 2013, 11:27:49 PM »
MJ's Bam will be it's own event. He doesn't need to ruin anyone else's big event by overshadowing all other artists who are slated to receive awards or perform at an event.
I kind of disagree, because he overshadowed Farrah Fawcett's death and didn't suspend his plans, I don't really think anyone can really say what Michael would or would not do, when or how he will BAM, guesses are one thing but to state with surety he would not is another and no one but those in the know with Michael can do/say.
Also if he bam at the end, it would make no difference regardless to BAM before or after the date of the event... on his own stage and date or on a worldwide event... it will still overshadow all celebrities no matter what or when...
Farrah Fawcett didn't plan to receive a great deal of media attention and acclimation for her achievements on 6/25/09. Apples n oranges.
But his fake death over shadowed her real death, everyone gave more tributes to Michael than they did Farrah, AND the segment that was meant to be run just on her, in memory was shared with Michael. In honor of both of them.. One real death, one fake death.... I don't think it's apples and oranges, yes different venue/event to the awards but same sentiments on the whole topic of overshadowing or taking center stage which is what you were speaking of and what I am referring to.
Completely different situation. MJ didn't attend Farrah's funeral and fake his death there. That would be a proper comparison.
Oh n ps, I realize this is a popular righteous soundbite but be sure you apply the criticism correctly, because no where have I professed to know what MJ would or would not do.
Take a step back Dear, I am no way Criticizing you. I am merely adding a different point of view. Or am I misunderstanding a point of a debate? If i remember correctly, You have stated on several occasions you like debating? How does him attending her funeral make a better comparison? EDIT: Rereading you comparison.... IF Michael was to BAM at the awards isn't the same as going to a funeral and faking a death, The Awards wouldn't be about someone else announcing they are alive and then coming back and saying Hey I'm alive too and taking all the attention. I can't understand to be honest your comparison, I personally feel that the comparison is taking the whole point down another rabbit hole, A level I can't comprehend personally.
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« on: January 03, 2013, 11:21:24 PM »
MJ's Bam will be it's own event. He doesn't need to ruin anyone else's big event by overshadowing all other artists who are slated to receive awards or perform at an event.
I kind of disagree, because he overshadowed Farrah Fawcett's death and didn't suspend his plans, I don't really think anyone can really say what Michael would or would not do, when or how he will BAM, guesses are one thing but to state with surety he would not is another and no one but those in the know with Michael can do/say.
Also if he bam at the end, it would make no difference regardless to BAM before or after the date of the event... on his own stage and date or on a worldwide event... it will still overshadow all celebrities no matter what or when...
Farrah Fawcett didn't plan to receive a great deal of media attention and acclimation for her achievements on 6/25/09. Apples n oranges.
But his fake death over shadowed her real death, everyone gave more tributes to Michael than they did Farrah, AND the segment that was meant to be run just on her, in memory was shared with Michael. In honor of both of them.. One real death, one fake death.... I don't think it's apples and oranges, yes different venue/event to the awards but same sentiments on the whole topic of overshadowing or taking center stage which is what you were speaking of and what I am referring to. And what's not to say that if he was to BAM at the end of a large event, all those who are receiving an award or even half of them was already to know about it? Most of the artists these days were inspired by Michael to begin with, what's not to say they would even care about sharing the event with him? what's not to say that because of his BAM their achievements in that event it all goes down in history, with their names on it. Nothing is ever mentioned without mentioning others.. if he was to BAM then the articles would also mention the artists who won awards that night. Again just my thoughts on it.
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« on: January 03, 2013, 11:11:50 PM »
Same pointy top lip
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This picture seems to me as recent as this
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Maybe his giving us a stone faced stare..maybe he disapproved of the bickering?.. who knows? personally I don't think it matters who was or wasn't MJ in pictures, does it change anything at all? if the O2 guy wasn't him... does it give us new leads? if the photo of michael in license was not actually michael does it give us new clues to investigate more? JMO
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« on: January 03, 2013, 10:28:04 PM »
MJ's Bam will be it's own event. He doesn't need to ruin anyone else's big event by overshadowing all other artists who are slated to receive awards or perform at an event.
I kind of disagree, because he overshadowed Farrah Fawcett's death and didn't suspend his plans, I don't really think anyone can really say what Michael would or would not do, when or how he will BAM, guesses are one thing but to state with surety he would not is another and no one but those in the know with Michael can do/say. Also if he bam at the end, it would make no difference regardless to BAM before or after the date of the event... on his own stage and date or on a worldwide event... it will still overshadow all celebrities no matter what or when...
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« on: January 03, 2013, 10:39:34 AM »
This statement means that WMA will be in Spring? between March and June?? It is with deep regret that we have to announce that World Music Awards is postponed until 2013 due to several logistic and immigration issues. Several of our international performing acts have been unable to get work permits so we are asking for your comprehension at this difficult moment and promise to give you all a great world class show this coming Spring
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