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Do any of you know Madonna!? She works hard, goes to sleep by 9PM, gets up like 5AM - 6AM. Very dedicated to performing.
And please - don't compare Michael & her - like comparing apples & oranges. JUST because you've heard/seen a few things in the MEDIA, the same ones who portrayed Michael in a horrifying light, doesn't mean anything when it comes to her, either.

I actually went and saw the show, and feel that I should add Pilates to my workout, wow! WOW! That's all I can say about her!
Nothing to do with this fake Illuminati crud with her.

Remember this: Where do I live? Hollywood. That means that since I've been here, I've most likely met everyone at least once - more, if I liked them. Never saw any indication of any overlords, just a bunch of partying fans on one extreme, and then on the other hand, people like Michael & Madonna, who actually took care of themselves.

Madonna doing the Superbowl Halftime gig at over 50, marvelously. Need I say more?  :D

Agree.  I don't think Madonna's half time and Michael's half time performance can be compared.

They were both brilliant in their own rights and in different ways.

Her performance was amazing and she also looks amazing and so healthy. She will be 54 this year.....all kudos to her I reckon.


 Agree with you both. I love her music, specifically her older stuff, and I thought her performance was amazing and inspiring. I loved the ending. And of course they can't be compared; Madonna is the Queen of Pop and MJ is the King.

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21
« on: February 07, 2012, 04:02:15 AM »
  Im_convinced, it very much matters who you addressed that post to. You stated that "you didn't know where I got my information from when I responded to you." Well, of course what I was responding to wouldn't be found in the post you addressed to someone else, but rather the one you addressed to me. That makes a difference. My posts were in response to your post below:

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Im_convinced, I'm sorry I didn't respond earlier, I didn't see your post until now. I'll try and add some more info to make this even clearer, although I think I've said quite a bit. No, I do not think not keeping the Sabbath is taking the Mark of the Beast at all; in fact almost the contrary. Christians are not required to keep the Sabbath according to the Bible. And whether or not it is the "Mark of the Beast" (I'll use abbreviation MOB) depends upon what you believe, simply because Jews keep the Sabbath and therefore it would be MOB, whereas Christians do not and therefore, it would not be the MOB. Also, I doubt atheists think anything is the MOB given they don't even believe in God. I think people should be cautious before accepting that a law like this will even be passed, much less tolerated. Until we see proof this will come into fruition, paranoia is unnecessary and unhelpful.

Yes we are living according to the Roman calendar, and thus Sunday is our day of "rest". This did originate from Pagan worship of the Sun, but since we are not required to keep Sabbath any day, especially Sunday, than no Christian is taking the MOB. You stated that the saints will be saved for they will not receive the mark if they have faith and follow God's commandments. Well, isn't that what I've been saying? We are to have faith and follow God's commandments of LOVE, see Jono's posts. This does not require keeping Sabbath, as that law was fulfilled and done away with. Jesus referred to the Jews as the "synagogue of Satan" for a reason; they chose to deny him and even killed him in order to stay bound by the Old Covenant. So although the fourth commandment commands the observing of the 7th day as a sabbath rest, it must be kept in mind that the Ten Commandments were part of the law given to the nation of Israel at Mount Sinai. This law covenant was a sign of *their* relationship with God in order to commemorate their deliverance, not to us. (Deut. 5:15; Ex. 31:16)

Suzy7- I really think you don't grasp the concept of what the mark of the beast law aka sunday law is. This has nothing to do with whether or not someone is a Christian or Jew. It does not matter if someone believes in God or not. This has to do with Revelation 13 and below is the scripture pointing out what the mark of the beast means for EVERYONE. This is not about Jews keeping the Sabbath and therefore they receive the mark of the beast because they are. This has nothing to do with Christians and them not keeping the Sabbath and therefore they don't receive the mark of the beast. The Sabbath is technically supposed to be kept on Saturday and when the mark of the beast law is enforced people will be forced to keep the Sabbath on the wrong day, Sunday. Now if we refuse to go along with the law and refuse to go to church on sunday then we will not receive the mark of the beast. If someone goes along with it because they will not be able to buy or sell, etc. then they will be taking the mark of the beast.
I never once said that the mark of the beast makes a distinction between Jews or Christians. I am neither of those because those are titles that have to do with religious names. I never said anything about saints. The info I copied and pasted said that and also the Bible says so.

One other thing about this mark of the beast law, it is not related to Jesus' sacrifice on the cross for us in the way you are connecting it. Yes I know that Jesus died for our sins. Through his blood we are given grace from God and offered salvation. I do know about salvation and it doesn't depend on works to receive it. The subject of that is seperate from what I am pointing out. I have said before this information I am providing is for the sole purpose of it being evidence and after that it is up to the people to study it or not. I have said my last comment on this subject just now and I respect your choice in how to believe so please respect my choice. I am not even saying that anyone should or should not keep the Sabbath. I don't but I know I should because the Bible has God's word saying so.

I do not just think this way independantly from not studying and not reading scriptures in the Bible. I have formed my understanding of this issue from study of the Bible in regards to revelations and I have read other info and watched youtube videos. This is not just my opinion. This information is not to make people scared or paranoid but to give them an opportunity to know what is ahead in the near future. The evidence is there for all to see and the proof will be in prophesies fulfilled.
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15 The second beast was allowed to give breath to the statue so it could speak. He was allowed to kill all who refused to worship the statue. 16 He also forced everyone to receive a mark on the right hand or on the forehead. People great or small, rich or poor, free or slave had to receive the mark. 17 They could not buy or sell anything unless they had the mark. The mark is the name of the beast or the number of his name. 18 Here is a problem that you have to be wise to figure out. If you can, figure out what the beast's number means. It is man's number. His number is 666.
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The National Sunday Law if it goes into effect would be a law that would force everyone even athiest into going to church and worshipping on sunday the day for satan. There will be punishments for not going along with the law, for example the fact that we wouldn't be able to buy or sell, wouldn't be able to buy food, clothes, medicine, etc. So basically if I stand my ground and refuse to obey the law I will face punishments. The Sunday law would force people to bow down to satan. Therefore if people follow the law they will be worshipping satan and receive the mark of the beast.
^^My comment from my last post. I also would like to point out that the subject of the ark of the covenant was in TS' post and that does have to do with the Ten Commandments.

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The above websites could help you and anyone else struggling with this part of the end of the world revelations.

  I am not "struggling" to understand the EOW, just your contradictions. Also, my question to you was rhetorical; I know you believe in God and the Bible, that is why you care whether or not you receive the "mark of the beast." That is my whole point---your contradiction is that this law has nothing to do with religion (what anyone believes), if it doesn't, why would any religious person care whether or not they are receiving the MOB? So, of course our personal spiritual belief's matter! I also made a post in this thread about TS' mentioning of the Ten Commandments. I did think our conversation ended with my last post, hence why I said (several times), I have respect for your opinion and whatever you or anyone else chooses to believe; even if you continuously choose to misunderstand everything I have written <3. Also, doesn't the Bible state we should be kind, humble, respectful, patient etc., versus rude and condescending? Yes, it does. Therefore I'll add again that I respect your opinion even if it differs from mine.  bearhug


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and SUZY7  - peace and love sister - I agree with your posts and not that you need it, but you have my full support!

 Aussie, I've been wondering where you've been and thank-you. Good to see you back and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this topic ;).   bearhug

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Sarahli, the autopsy chart indicates many punctures, and the famous autopsy pic shows the face of the Shroud of Turin on MJ's abdomen.  The autopsy pic is as fake as the Shroud of Turin, which was most likely of Jack de Molay in the 13th century  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login  , but looks uncannily like Prince William  (Olympics London 2012? ;) )Then the fake Ark of the Covenent connected to the Pope, "vicar in place of Christ", is announced the same day as the fake death of Michael Jackson.  Also I've long seen parallels between MJ's Thriller and the Jesus story.  MJ' jacket is blood red, and he is the "living dead".  He'll "save" us from the terror on the screen, (anti-christ evil).

 MJonmind, agreed! Great post.

 Souza, I've read some of your post and will read the rest when I have time; so far though, I disagree with a few points but I respect all of the time and effort you put into your research.
 



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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21
« on: February 03, 2012, 04:13:48 AM »
 Melody, his post very much emphasized faith; but also faith based upon evidence. I have stated many times in my posts in other threads, that the Bible among many other things, is the the evidence I use as the support of my faith. For some in this thread, Ron's Ark "discovery" is considered as their evidence, to others it is not. So, it's up to the individual to determine what evidence they will use as the supporting foundation of their faith. Still, faith is what is of importance, not tangible evidence as the Bible states at Corinthians 5:7.

 I don't know who you're directing your comment to about TS not saying to NOT keep any commandments, because I didn't state such. The law I am referring to is sabbath. TS said this: "Almost everyone knows that the Ark of the Covenant was designed to contain the Ten Commandments; which are based on the two main *concepts* of love for God, and love for mankind (see Matthew 22:36-40); it's all for love!" No where did he state one must keep sabbath, but rather what the concepts of the commandments require of us, which is: love and faith. Love for God is why the sabbath was kept by the Israelites, but as I and more importantly the Bible have said many times, is that sabbath does not need to be kept by anyone anymore. Through our love and faith in God everyday is how we show appreciation to him. Those concepts of love TS mentioned, are what the New Covenant is about. Simply abiding by the laws of love Jesus gave us, is how one becomes "like Jesus." MJ is a perfect example of these laws, and how he expressed that these laws are what we need to place as a priority, specifically love. People are focusing on the one law of keeping sabbath rather than the idea of why it was kept in the first place, and ignoring the law(s) more important to humanity and God---love.

Mjonmind, I agree 100%.

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21
« on: February 02, 2012, 04:52:29 PM »
 I'm_convinced, you quoted the wrong post. Perhaps you should have quoted the one which was addressed to me and not bindupbrokenhearted. In that post you literally said: "If we refuse to worship on a Sunday, we will not recieve the mark of the beast." Therefore, my question was not at all "ignorant", far from it. Since you stated this law has nothing to do with what anyone believes, than my question to you was: Why do you care if you are receiving the mark by worshipping on a Sunday, if the whole point in the Bible of not wanting the MOB, has to do with being saved? If it didn't, than no one would care they are receiving the MOB, much less if they don't even believe in God or the devil. If the law had nothing to do with what each of us believe, than that would contradict the purpose of the law.

  My question posed to you had nothing to do with who was on this site for 2 yrs. or not; but the topic at hand. I don't think you are understanding anything I have written at all, but that's okay. Whatever you believe in is perfectly fine with me, having a difference of opinion doesn't mean I have no respect for yours.

 The issue with the basis of this law, is it cannot guarantee to anyone that you or I will even leave our house on a Sunday; let alone go to a place of worship. People can refuse Sunday sabbath, without "them" knowing. People cannot refuse a chip without "them" not being aware. So it's a flawed idea really, that's why the chip sounds more logical, IF the MOB was to merely be one literal thing.

  And Do, the chip being in use currently on people could be very likely.

  I also think people have turned this into semantics and an issue of keeping laws, when I didn't get that from TS' post at all. What I did get, is this is very much an issue of faith alone.

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21
« on: January 31, 2012, 05:35:25 AM »
 I do however, think other "laws" are far more concerning. For example, the RFID chip. There is actually much evidence that supports this could be implemented in the near future, and is actually the "Mark of the Beast Law." Late last year major news networks like CNN, reported on the chip being a reasonable solution to our current problems. They even showed what it looks like and how it's similar to what is being used on pets in order to keep track of them etc., and even soon, possibly children. These chips are currently being used for many other things.

 The problem with the "sabbath" part of the MOB law, is how exactly would the government keep tabs on every individual, in every country and force them to worship? That is impossible, unless of course there was some type of chip that allowed them to do that. So perhaps it would be a combination of those things as others have said.

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21
« on: January 31, 2012, 05:16:44 AM »
 Im_convinced, I just read your post and no offense, but it makes zero sense. You contradicted yourself several times regarding the "Mark of the Beast" not having anything to do with salvation; yet you say "if we refuse to worship "God" (satan) on a Sunday than we are not receiving the mark." Thusly, not keeping sabbath on a Sunday in your opinion, wouldn't give us the MOB and therefore gives us salvation. You also said how one's own belief's have nothing to do with this law. Huh? Of course whether or not we are an Atheist, Jew, Christian, Muslim etc., has everything to do with this law. The whole idea of the law is based off of the Christian Bible, lol. And if this law had nothing to do with what anyone believes, than it shouldn't be a problem for many religious people, even though it's based in religion. Soo? I'm not understanding the big deal if you don't think it has anything to do with Jesus or salvation. Why do you care if you're taking the MOB and worshipping satan than?

 I want to add that I am not disagreeing with much of TS' post at all; just Ron's beliefs and the idea that the old Ark is of importance. Ron believed in keeping sabbath (on Saturday), so for him, any other day would indeed be taking the MOB. That is why whether or not the sabbath part of this law is "taking the MOB", is most definitely dependant upon our personal beliefs. Also Im_convinced, I wasn't saying your posts were enticing paranoia because I don't; but my point is that paranoia and fear should not be more powerful than faith. And that is another reason why what we believe in matters. Keeping sabbath is an ancient law no longer imperative to our salvation. The MOB law is a mere man-made law. Neither of these laws can override how powerful faith alone in God is, if you believe in God. So even IF we were all forced to worship on a Sunday, don't you think God knows what is in our hearts and whom we really worship? I think so.

And bindupbrokenhearted, great posts. You and jono save me alot of typing lol.

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21
« on: January 31, 2012, 03:42:12 AM »
 Souza, with respect, everyone who has posted about us no longer needing to observe sabbath, have done so using Biblical evidence. Among our long posts I don't think a vague answer was ever given. Also, all throughout the New Testament, there are many verses that show us we are no longer bound to the Old Covenant. That is why I keep mentioning the Jews vs. Christians beliefs as the ultimate example. Christians believe in the Bible, which includes the New Testament that tells us sabbath has been done away with. Jesus fulfilled that prophecy.

  Many of us here have studied the Bible our whole lives and continue to do so; therefore I think we also have a good understanding of it. But I repect anyone and everyone who believes they must keep sabbath in order to have a righteous stand with God. But just know that God no longer requires that of you, but instead faith in him and a good heart.

 Melody, he in fact was referring to Jews, hence "synagogue". What those verses mean, is he was illustrating that they weren't *true Jews*, as he was. They constantly attacked his character and eventually killed him. I do believe in the rest of your post about the true vs. "fake" Jews.

Edit: Jono great questions one should ask themselves regarding sabbath and salvation.

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21
« on: January 29, 2012, 06:56:21 AM »
  To add to my above post, that specific law of observing sabbath belonged to the nation of Israel and is of the past. Christians are not living in the past but are living for the future when Christ's 1,000-year reign, which was pictured (prophecied) by the sabbath, will bring rest and peace to obedient mankind. Instead of observing a weekly sabbath, they look forward to this great sabbath rest under the "Lord of the sabbath." (Matthew 12:8 )
 
 Also, Jesus' Jewish followers after Pentecost ceased the observance of days and seasons. So did the Gentiles who left behind pagan religions when they became Christians. They worshiped and served God everyday, not just one day a week. For them to observe one day a week as a sabbath would be turning back to the elementary things and becoming enslaved to them, as Paul points out at Galatians 4:9-10; Galatians 5:1.

 And about Jesus praying about the EOW: I know some people may point to what he said at the verse Matthew 24:20, as proof that Christians would observe the sabbath. It should be borne in mind that Jesus was speaking to Jewish followers who were well aquainted with the great difficulty in trying to travel on the sabbath day because of their restrictions that kept Jews within 2,000 cubits of their cities on that day. It was Jesus' custom to illustrate his teachings with things which the people of his day were thoroughly familiar. In this instance he chose the great difficulty anyone of that time would have in trying to travel a great distance in Palestine during the winter or on the sabbath. Flight to safety should therefore be done before the time arrives when it is next to impossible. His advice was followed by Christians shortly before Jerusalem's destruction in A.D. 70. They did not stay in the city until the Roman armies under Titus had surrounded it, preventing anyone from fleeing, but they did before it was too late. Still, sabbath observance was not even being discussed here, much less proving Christians are obligated to observe sabbath in the future ages.

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21
« on: January 29, 2012, 06:24:38 AM »
 Correct Jono! And likewise, you've made great posts aswell.

 Im_convinced, I'm sorry I didn't respond earlier, I didn't see your post until now. I'll try and add some more info to make this even clearer, although I think I've said quite a bit. No, I do not think not keeping the Sabbath is taking the Mark of the Beast at all; in fact almost the contrary. Christians are not required to keep the Sabbath according to the Bible. And whether or not it is the "Mark of the Beast" (I'll use abbreviation MOB) depends upon what you believe, simply because Jews keep the Sabbath and therefore it would be MOB, whereas Christians do not and therefore, it would not be the MOB. Also, I doubt atheists think anything is the MOB given they don't even believe in God. I think people should be cautious before accepting that a law like this will even be passed, much less tolerated. Until we see proof this will come into fruition, paranoia is unnecessary and unhelpful.

 Yes we are living according to the Roman calendar, and thus Sunday is our day of "rest". This did originate from Pagan worship of the Sun, but since we are not required to keep Sabbath any day, especially Sunday, than no Christian is taking the MOB. You stated that the saints will be saved for they will not receive the mark if they have faith and follow God's commandments. Well, isn't that what I've been saying? We are to have faith and follow God's commandments of LOVE, see Jono's posts. This does not require keeping Sabbath, as that law was fulfilled and done away with. Jesus referred to the Jews as the "synagogue of Satan" for a reason; they chose to deny him and even killed him in order to stay bound by the Old Covenant. So although the fourth commandment commands the observing of the 7th day as a sabbath rest, it must be kept in mind that the Ten Commandments were part of the law given to the nation of Israel at Mount Sinai. This law covenant was a sign of *their* relationship with God in order to commemorate their deliverance, not to us. (Deut. 5:15; Ex. 31:16)

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21
« on: January 28, 2012, 11:14:00 PM »
 Yambo3003, that's exactly it. All of the commandments were summed up in that final commandment. To love one another, is to not kill a person, steal from them, cheat on them etc. And having faith in God through Jesus Christ, is accepting the true God versus worshipping false idols. Very simple if you ask me ;).

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21
« on: January 28, 2012, 09:24:49 PM »
  You are partly correct, but the Mosaic Law IS used when referring to the Old Covenant, or Old Testament, including The Ten Commandments, but I edited my post anyway for clarification. The Ten Commandments were essentially a summation of the 600+ commandments contained in the Old Testament Law. The first four commandments deal with our relationship with God. The second six commandments deal with our relationship with one another. So there really isn't a difference between The Ten Commandments and the Old Testament, other than the fact that the Mosaic Law consisted of many more laws that all together could not give people salvation. Hence why we needed Jesus. It's quite clear that if you believe in the Bible, than you accept Jesus died for our salvation. If you don't and choose to obey the Old Covenant, than you are denying that Jesus died for us because he is the New Covenant to humanity. Again, that is the vast difference between why Christians do not keep the Sabbath and Jews do--it can't get any clearer.

 As for him praying the EOW not fall on a Sabbath Day, he was speaking regarding the times he was living in. Back then, they observed Sabbath and on those days people were to make sacrifices to Jehovah God; thus, it would have been horrible for the EOW to occur during a Sabbath Day *in those times*.

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21
« on: January 28, 2012, 08:20:17 PM »
 Melody, you did clarify what I stated in my post. That is exactly the point: Jesus wants us to keep the spirit of the law through faith and not by our works as others have said. Jesus also made it known that now everyday should be as a "Sabbath Day" as we should know God and be grateful to Him for His creations and sending us Jesus as our salvation. But, much of your post is where Mjonmind's point comes in: much of the Bible including keeping Sabbath, was specifically directed at the Israelites; not us. God's New Covenant is ours to follow.

 Souza, I respect your studies and I mysef have studied Sabbath and therefore have drawn my own conclusion. I am fully aware Saturday is the seventh day, but it doesn't matter anymore anyway. You do realize if we are to keep the Sabbath to be saved; we would also still have to sacrifice animals at an altar for Jehovah God aswell. We do not need to sacrifice anything because Jesus was that ultimate sacrifice. The reason why the *Israelites* (not us) had to obey the Law, was because they were God's chosen people and were delivered out of Egypt by HIM. The Mosaic/written Law also didn't allow for sins to be forgiven; under the New Covenant we are forgiven and the difference between then and now is again: because of Jesus' death we are able to be forgiven and ultimately saved. Another example of the Law ending for Christians is at Romans 10:4: "Christ is the end of the Law, so that everyone exercising faith may have righteousness." Remember, Sabbath keeping was apart of that Law. God used Christ to bring that Law to it's end. Our having a righteous stand with God depends on faith in Christ, not keeping Sabbath. Also see: Galatians 4:9-11; Ephesians 2:13-16; Col 2:13-16.

 Now of course we are not to murder, steal, worship other gods etc., lol. This is where common sense comes in, along with what Jesus told us to do. If we are to "love our neighbor as ourself", we would not kill them; just as if we accept God and Jesus Christ as savior, we are not to worship false gods.

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21
« on: January 28, 2012, 07:35:33 PM »
 Jono, thanks for your posts and adding that about Jesus' commandments which I agree with. Romans is certainly helpful in clarifying this subject.

 Mjonmind, I also agree. Jesus was God's Son, he certainly wasn't "breaking the Sabbath" but rather, fulfilling it. However my point was: the Jews at the time did believe he broke the Sabbath by performing miracles on that day and thusly, did not believe him to be the Messiah. People who keep the Sabbath, believe it is to be kept forever and the New Testament says otherwise; hence why Christians are Christians and Jews are Jews etc. So the comparison between the two and the reasons as to why some keep the Sabbath and some don't, are not logical comparisons to make when making an argument against why Christians don't keep Sabbath. This is because Christians believe Jesus was/is the Messiah therefore, they do not keep the old covenant. For these same reasons, Jews for example, do NOT believe he is the Messiah and therefore: DO keep the Old Covenant. For example: Jesus' very existence and purpose contradicts the Torah, and that is what some aren't understanding. This is why Jews only follow the Old Testament and do not believe in the New. At the end of the day, whether or not Sabbath keeping is the "Mark of the Beast", is strictly dependant upon one's own beliefs. Mind you, there is zero Biblical support of that claim.

 On that note, I agree 100% bindupbrokenhearted, Sabbath isn't NEEDED for salvation. That is what Ron's claim is; which goes against Jesus who stated: it is not the works of man but the faith and love that gives us righteousness and salvation. There is zero Biblical support of the grand claim that the Old Ark of the Covenant will resurface and be crucial to our salvation. Also, there is zero support of any of Ron's claims regarding the blood belonging to Jesus for if there was, every Christian would gladly welcome his findings. If in fact there is, than by all means: please share along with the Biblical evidence.

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21
« on: January 28, 2012, 04:16:46 AM »
 Taking my previous post into consideration, there are MANY Bible verses which state we are now under the new law--the New Covenant. By keeping the Old Covenant, we are denying Jesus and his sole purpose for living and dying for us. The old law did not allow for our sins to be forgiven; rather, it only gave us certain punishment and ultimate death for these sins. Under the New Covenant, we are given hope and forgiveness.

 The removal of the Decalogue need arouse no fears or apprehensions. At best it was but a negative approach to righteousness. The law of the Christians is a positive one: Love God with all your heart, mind, soul and strength and love your neighbor as yourself. Do to others as you would have them do to you. It's all for L.O.V.E. So do not have fear that you are not "righteous enough" or "on the side with the devil"--as long as your heart is loving and kind, that is what matters to God. This is the only commandment Jesus gave.

 As for the Ron story--- take it with a grain of salt. Btw, I think BeTheChange, Heartsong and others have raised great points and questions. But even IF it was the real Ark of the Covenant, it is irrelevant to us and more importantly God himself. The only Ark of His Covenant that matters at the "EOW", is Jesus. Jesus metaphorically "signed" the *New Covenant* with his blood indeed, not the old, when he died at the stake. To elaborate: Jesus' disciple Paul says, in regards to the end of the Mosaic Law at Eph 2:13-16: "But now in union with Christ Jesus you who were once far off have come to be near by the blood of Christ. For he is our peace, he who made the two parties one and destroyed the wall in between that fenced them off. By means of his flesh he abolished the hatred, THE LAW of COMMANDMENTS consisting in decrees, that he might create two peoples in union with himself into one new man and make peace, and that he might fully reconcile both peoples in one body to God through the torture stake, because he had killed off the hatred by means of himself."

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TIAI ~ 2012 / Re: TIAI January 21
« on: January 28, 2012, 03:43:01 AM »
 According to the Bible: Christians are NOT breaking any of the commandments because they are not required to keep the Law of Moses---the Old Covenant. SOME religious organizations hold that the Mosaic Law was in 2 parts: the Decalogue, or the "moral law", and the "ceremonial law". They claim that the Decalogue is still binding, whereas the "ceremonial law" passed away with the Messiah's coming; Jesus. This is why Christians do not keep the Sabbath. They believe in the New Covenant of Jesus whom nullified the law, whilst Jews still keep the Law of Moses because they don't even believe that Jesus was the Messiah. In fact, it is recorded in the Bible that they accused him of blasphemy and even sorcery!--see John 9:14 and on. Jews do not believe he fulfilled the Messianic prophecies, therefore, since they are still waiting for the Messiah they keep the Mosaic Law.

 Jesus himself, contradicts the belief that we must keep the Sabbath and the whole of the law when he states it's laws are no longer applicable--hence why Jews do not believe he is the Messiah. In fact, again John 9:14 tells us that Jesus made a paste in  violation of Sabbath, which caused the Pharisees to say in verse 16: "He does not observe Shabbat!" Jesus didn't even keep the Sabbath! But why, if it is apparently the "Mark of the Beast" for those who don't? Perhaps because Jesus was sent by God to fulfill the Law as he stated at Matthew 5:17-18: "Do not think I came to distroy the Law or the Prophets. I came, not to distroy, but to fulfill; for truly I say to you that sooner would heaven and earth pass away than for one smallest letter or one particle of a letter to pass away from the Law by any means and not all things take place." Jesus thereby showed that the law consisted of prophecies which were certain of fulfillment, so when he came the law was done.

 We are no longer bound by the written law (Ro 7:6) because Jesus died for our sins. Our sins are now able to be forgiven, because our only law given by Jesus is the law of love.

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