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Introduce yourself / Hello: This is your administrator: Goodbye!
« on: May 10, 2011, 01:55:55 PM »
First of all, this is the last post for Uranus. Not so much because I want to, but because I will be banned before even being warned once more. But enough with the sniveling. I just want to make a bit clearer who the administrator of this forum is. I will not make further comments, only some narration. I only ask people, before they believe something that they are told, to have a look at what happened for themselves.
Yesterday, I posted a comment on Souza’s thread “TS and all else”, criticizing her behavior towards other members as not being democratic. I was admittedly a bit fierce. But, I was also banned without even a warning. Here is my post:
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Souza of course, continued as nothing had happened. I then send her an e-mail to ask her to lift the ban not only from my username but from my IP as well. And here is what was said:
Hello Souza, I am Uranus.
You probably remember me since you banned some hours ago.
Why? Just because I expressed my view of democracy criticising your words? By banning me, you only made yourself weaker to the opinion I expressed about democracy, since you abused your position as an administrator to silence me.
I did not violate the terms of use after all.
Therefore, I demand from you to lift the ban, for obvious reasons.
Have a nice totalitarian night.
Her first answer:
If people come and visit you in your own house and they spit on your carpet and are very unkind to you, insinuating things and calling you a dictator, are they still welcome?
The forum might be public, but it's still 'my house'. This is not the first time you are publically attacking me and you will continue to do so, simply because you apparently hate my guts and the way I run this website. THAT Uranus, is not my problem. I put to much time and effort into this website to be attacked by members who can't behave.
There are other hoax forums available on the net, I suggest you go to one of those and maybe you might find one with an admin that you like more.
Have a good day.
My answer:
I wonder whether you really believe your words or you just answer to finish off with me and keep me out of the forum. If the second one is the case, you can just clarify this to me, so that I stop communication with you and save time and energy for both of us.
First of all, what do you mean that "I hate your guts"? I do not even know you personally. How could I possibly do that? And please do not tell me that I want to discredit you for my secret dark reasons, because this would be outrageously ridiculous. You say that I have attacked you in the past. When really? My posts are 33. Show me one of those attacks of mine against you. It was mainly PureLove, bec and you that attacked me on my very first thread, accusing me that I got a new ID to post, that I called other people sheep, that I was bashing TS and that I wanted to brainwash the members of the forum, while I had neither done nor implied those things. The worst thing I've said is that you attack me instead of my arguments, because you do not have your own. And I believe that, and it is my right to do so.
And talking about rights, what about the forum being yours? Of course you put too much effort to maintain this forum and well done. Did anyone criticize you about the mantnaince of the forum or anything else? No. Now as far as opinions of the people are concerned, it is you in first place that should respect them and guarantee the freedom of expression in the forum. That means, that even if someone disagrees with you and does so with arguments, he/she should be welcome. That even means that you accept criticism in the way you run the forum. Since it is public all people will decide in a democratic way what is acceptable or not in the forum, not you. You could just rename it to Souza's investigation forum, if the case is the second. And even my completely straightforward last post did not aim you, but your behavior. And I do not even feel the need to apologise about it, not only because I did not attack you, but because it would be an insult to my self - dignity to watch in apathy, while you treat other members the same way you have treated me in the past.
It is you who have attacked me, I have not. I did not violate the terms of use(in my PS I was clear that I did not call you a dictator and that I only criticised your behaviour as not democratic), but you banned me. You did not even warn me about this. You abused excessively your authority as an administrator to silence me, while you banned me for my suggesting your behaviour as a parallel to totalitarian paradigms. And you dare to tell me that it is me the one who cannot behave.
I am yet here, discussing in a most straightforward way and I still demand from you to lift the ban of my username and IP.
Have a nice day, too, Souza,
Uranus.
And the final disappointment:
Maybe I wasn't clear enough: NO I will not lift your ban.
I wonder whether Souza will delete this thread immediately or not. We shall see. Anyway, I want you to know that my posts are only 33. You can see what I have written or not and judge for yourselves. As for the authenticity of the e-mails. E-mail me and I will forward them to you.
Goodbye,
Fallen Uranus
Yesterday, I posted a comment on Souza’s thread “TS and all else”, criticizing her behavior towards other members as not being democratic. I was admittedly a bit fierce. But, I was also banned without even a warning. Here is my post:
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
Souza of course, continued as nothing had happened. I then send her an e-mail to ask her to lift the ban not only from my username but from my IP as well. And here is what was said:
Hello Souza, I am Uranus.
You probably remember me since you banned some hours ago.
Why? Just because I expressed my view of democracy criticising your words? By banning me, you only made yourself weaker to the opinion I expressed about democracy, since you abused your position as an administrator to silence me.
I did not violate the terms of use after all.
Therefore, I demand from you to lift the ban, for obvious reasons.
Have a nice totalitarian night.
Her first answer:
If people come and visit you in your own house and they spit on your carpet and are very unkind to you, insinuating things and calling you a dictator, are they still welcome?
The forum might be public, but it's still 'my house'. This is not the first time you are publically attacking me and you will continue to do so, simply because you apparently hate my guts and the way I run this website. THAT Uranus, is not my problem. I put to much time and effort into this website to be attacked by members who can't behave.
There are other hoax forums available on the net, I suggest you go to one of those and maybe you might find one with an admin that you like more.
Have a good day.
My answer:
I wonder whether you really believe your words or you just answer to finish off with me and keep me out of the forum. If the second one is the case, you can just clarify this to me, so that I stop communication with you and save time and energy for both of us.
First of all, what do you mean that "I hate your guts"? I do not even know you personally. How could I possibly do that? And please do not tell me that I want to discredit you for my secret dark reasons, because this would be outrageously ridiculous. You say that I have attacked you in the past. When really? My posts are 33. Show me one of those attacks of mine against you. It was mainly PureLove, bec and you that attacked me on my very first thread, accusing me that I got a new ID to post, that I called other people sheep, that I was bashing TS and that I wanted to brainwash the members of the forum, while I had neither done nor implied those things. The worst thing I've said is that you attack me instead of my arguments, because you do not have your own. And I believe that, and it is my right to do so.
And talking about rights, what about the forum being yours? Of course you put too much effort to maintain this forum and well done. Did anyone criticize you about the mantnaince of the forum or anything else? No. Now as far as opinions of the people are concerned, it is you in first place that should respect them and guarantee the freedom of expression in the forum. That means, that even if someone disagrees with you and does so with arguments, he/she should be welcome. That even means that you accept criticism in the way you run the forum. Since it is public all people will decide in a democratic way what is acceptable or not in the forum, not you. You could just rename it to Souza's investigation forum, if the case is the second. And even my completely straightforward last post did not aim you, but your behavior. And I do not even feel the need to apologise about it, not only because I did not attack you, but because it would be an insult to my self - dignity to watch in apathy, while you treat other members the same way you have treated me in the past.
It is you who have attacked me, I have not. I did not violate the terms of use(in my PS I was clear that I did not call you a dictator and that I only criticised your behaviour as not democratic), but you banned me. You did not even warn me about this. You abused excessively your authority as an administrator to silence me, while you banned me for my suggesting your behaviour as a parallel to totalitarian paradigms. And you dare to tell me that it is me the one who cannot behave.
I am yet here, discussing in a most straightforward way and I still demand from you to lift the ban of my username and IP.
Have a nice day, too, Souza,
Uranus.
And the final disappointment:
Maybe I wasn't clear enough: NO I will not lift your ban.
I wonder whether Souza will delete this thread immediately or not. We shall see. Anyway, I want you to know that my posts are only 33. You can see what I have written or not and judge for yourselves. As for the authenticity of the e-mails. E-mail me and I will forward them to you.
Goodbye,
Fallen Uranus